>>738715868
>everything is blue or purple
it's gay

>>738715868
No rape=No play

>>738715868
they didn't make the upper boob cover transparent

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>>738715868
It wasn't HER game. That was the problem.

They tried to bait people into thinking it's Ninja Gaiden and nobody fell for it. Game is ugly as hell and the trailers made it clear it has none of the appeal from the old games or the characters that people like.

i thought this was a ghost in the shell thread

>>738716750
I wish it was

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>>738715868
the unwashed masses don't deserve a true action series like Ninja Gaiden
NG4 was the best game of the past decade

>>738716145
This woman is into BDSM
>>738717881

>>738715868
Cuz it wasn't her game, it was that one other newfaggot no Ayane no Momiji no Rachel no Nyotengu no Kasumi no Tamaki no Tsukushi no Sayuri no Shandy it was very weird to not have any of these inclusions very cringe

>>738715868
>Appear for a total five minutes.
>Disappear.
Yup, its a NG2 game.

>>738718170
But I played her through an entire mission in NG2...
with the black mod of course

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>>738718242
Anon only Ayane and Momiji are NG, the rest are DOAsluts
Also they're only playable in Sigma/RE versions
Also their movesets fucking suck compared to Ryu and Yakumo come the fuck on

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>>738717242
>No community servers so I can host my own and play with friends
Despair, but at least I got Blacklight.

>>738718272
Momiji in 3RE is a lot more fun than Yakumo in my experience. Her spins and heavy swipe follow-ups from her flying swallow are incredibly strong. But that's mostly from 3RE just being a lot more fun than 4 in general.

>>738718534
Nah, her only use is shredding Challenge Mode bosses by using her double-jump spin attack low to the ground

In all accounts besides tits Yakumo is more fun
also, of all the girls, Momiji? Come on RE has Kasumi who's more fun than DS Ryu

>>738715868
Censored the cleavage

>appears for 5 seconds in the worst part of the game
>"""""her game"""
This game is such a scam man. They really did model her and put her in the game and everything, for nothing?

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>>738715868
because of this faggot

>>738719212
No I didn't mean of all the girls, since only Ayane and Momiji were mentioned. I really enjoy Kasumi too and she is the best girl to play as. Really Ayane is the only one I don't enjoy much, her moveset is too much of a blur to tell what's going on.

>>738719440
urg, so bad. I only managed to play through this because of the dlc skins

>>738719440
he is literally me....

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>>738715868
>Why did her game fail?
There's no audience for that type of game with a male protagonist. It's either soulslikes or go home. Also the protag looked faggy, she wasn't playable, NG is a niche IP which disappeared for too long and the whole company is on wobbly feet because they listened to western idiots aka "consultants" on what "modern audiences" want. DoA might share the same fate if they continue drinking western koolaid on culture and depictions of women in media.

That design looks great though. It's classy enough to know she's not a prostitute but perverse enough that she could pretend to be one if needed, which is something most women who bitch about this type of design could never pull off, let alone get mistaken for a whores.

>>738719212
Also forgot to mention; yeah obviously Momiji's double jump spin is the most powerful boss killer in the game but her flying swallow is also insanely strong, far better than Ryu's with any of his weapons even. If you FS and hold Y afterwards she does a wide slash that keeps her safe and does good damage. With that move she can basically fly around the fight, into enemies, or into safety where you can charge UT (which is much faster since she starts charging it from landing after FS).
On the surface, Momiji looks the weakest out of the 4 characters but if you figure out her hold heavy attacks she is easily the strongest after Ryu imo (and she is better than Ryu at killing bosses).

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>>738717242
>zoomer game

>>738716245
the amount of people shilling the game shut up not long after it came out, seems to happen everytime a vocal minority defends some shitty modern slop game. EVERY time.

This funny to see NG-larpers says only gameplay matters only for them to go on a meltdown when it turns out that Ryu is not the protagonist.

>>738720356
Yeah the backlash was surprising, at first I really was like "who cares".
I only hate Yakumo because his design sucks completely. A complete miss in every way. His actual character was good so it's purely the character design that was the problem. And even if the appeal of NG is mainly the gameplay it's still a spectacle action game, you can't have the main character looking like shit.

>>738715868
They release a new Ghost in the Shell game?

>>738718272
>Rachel
>DOA
Ya goof'd. Momiji is a pedophile.

>>738720856
I think he looks cool, very chuuni the Raven stuff is fun and contrasts well with the Falcon stuff for Ryu
You also get like 4 different costumes with different levels of edge and even a mecha set so I really don't get the problem

>>738719440
I love this edgy faggot.

>>738715868
The censored design for one made me never want to play this trash. I'm sure that there are other major flaws with it but I'm never going to know.

>>738717881
Sexo

>>738720856
He feels too much like the Samurai Shodown reboot's MC.
I really like the bloodraven mode too, but red counter from Nioh 2 was not necessary lmao.

>>738717242
Not a bad game but really failed to live up to the source material. GITS on PS1 will always be the best.

>>738719440
/thread
it took nero 2 games and a failed reboot to be accepted as the new main character of DMC yet for some reason the faggots at platinum thought he can beat ryu 1v1 in his first game

>>738721415
Nero got beat by Dante and had to be rescued by him.
Yakumo actually made Ryu concede the victory, and then goes on to beat the final boss on his own. Not bad at all.

>>738715868
But Seori was the main girl of the game?

>>738721684
Yeah that's exactly the problem and why Nero is alright

>>738719440
Techwear is considered outdated since like 2021.

>>738721797
>The new protag is competent
>This means he is bad

>>738721684
exactly what I mean
dante was literally just fucking around in DMC4 and still beat his ass, let him get a shot at the final boss just to see what the new kid can do and if he fails then he can just clean up the mess himself
this new faggot kid yakhomo had no business suddenly beating the legendary super ninja ryu hayabusa out of nowhere
>>738721953
except the game reeks of
>the old protag is incompetent

>>738722101
It's just like a mary sue fanfic character inserting itself out of nowhere

>>738722101
So, a good protagonist would be a guy that fellate, worship then respect Ryu?

>>738722878
>good protagonist
For westerners: just Ryu. For the Chinese: a Chinese martial artist or an adept. For the Japanese: a cute and sexy Kunoichi.

>>738722878
we were just talking about nero who did neither of that yet for some reason you just suddenly wanted to talk about sucking dicks huh? as expected of yakhomotard lol
garbage game literally gave zero respect to ryu hayabusa, lore wise and gameplay wise

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I think NG4 Ayane's outfit is sexy, underboob is kino

>>738715868
It wasn't her game

>>738715868
Based off that image alone, because she doesn't have her 80s hair.

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>manga accurate anime releasing soon
Can't wait for her to finally get a personality.

>>738715868
ghost in the shell ahh bitch

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>>738715868
Fatty

>>738723298
I cannot believe that I am excited for an anime in 2026

>>738722101
But ryu was testing yakumo too

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NG4 is the best action game since 15+ years ago.

>>738726521
yes but it's still not good enough.

>>738715868
Identity crisis, Ninja Gaiden 4 is a Platinum game, not Ninja Gaiden.

Also it was one the most botched attempts at paving way for a new protagonist to take the helm, Ryu was sidelined too hard to make players see Yakumo more favorably, Dante was treated like royalty in comparison to Ryu when Nero got introduced and people at the time still got mad Dante was passing the baton, NG4 should have taken that as a lesson and come up with a better to please Ryufags while introducing Yakumo other than just allowing the player to pick him for a full playthrough after finishing the game once.
>>738717881
Ninja Gaiden 4 is a great game, but it is not Ninja Gaiden.

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>>738726969
>>the old protag is incompetent
>Yakumo talks big but then shits himself at the sight of Ryu Hayabusa in the mountains
>Ryu has better combos and way higher base damage than Yakumo
>Every NPC sucks off Ryu as THE "Super Ninja"
>Redoes a lot of Yakumo's stages and plows through them like a hurricane
frankly speaking the older games never sucked Ryu's cock 1/10th as much as 4 did

The idea saying NG4 isn't a NG game (because of some nebulous, imagined reasoning) is frankly fucking ridiculous.

>>738716750
I was about to get into GITS' decline in popularity over the years lol.

Also is this suppose to be fucking Ayane?

NG4 has a lot of problems but I want to punch any nigers who say that it "wasn't an NG game" as if that means anything.

>>738727496
>GITS' decline in popularity
good. normalfags don't deserves it.

>>738719440
One of the messiest character designs I've seen in modern gaming.

>>738727320
Green text doesn't make anything you said true, the other post saying Ryu is incompetent in NG4 is also wrong.

The actual truth is that Yakumo is portrayed as an elite super ninja just as much as Ryu is, the only "fault" Yakumo has is he is simply a younger super Ninja that doesn't have as much accolades to his name as Ryu does, simply because he hasn't lived as long enough.

Ryu is not passing the baton to an upstart like Dante did while being far more effective and deadly, Ryu passed the baton to an almost equally super Ninja who owed nothing to him in terms of competence and skill.

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Why does every modern action game have so much talking and annoying characters? Did this really need forced walking sections with a support team constantly yapping in your ear? Why cant I just be alone with my own thoughts, getting immersed in the levels, going on an adventure to save the world. And the stupid over the top anime rock with cringe lyrics like it's supposed to amp me up. The anime weapons that feel nothing like authentic Ninja weapons NG use to have. Whatever video game direction is, NG4 just gets it completely wrong. Itagaki being a westaboo who made games for americans is what kept Ninja Gaiden from falling into the cringe trap that every other action game suffers from. These goddamn japs dont understand Ninja Gaiden is supposed to be Enter the Dragon, not some anime for 12 year olds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXjFWrJ7I_4&list=LL&index=30&t=208s

>>738715868
Ninja Gaiden was never a big seller, and the few people who do like Ninja Gaiden games usually just look at Reddit posts about Ninja Gaiden 2 instead of wanting a new one.

this board is so fucking shit since every poster is a 35 year old fossil and possibly a failed game dev that thinks he could've done a better job in every aspect

>>738727626
>as if that means anything
It did mean something, since the game didn't become a hit to revitalize the franchise, you know, the whole purpose a massive overhaul and new protagonist is gambled on.

>>738717969
>no Ayane
At least it's obvious you've never actually played the game.
>I-I MEANT NO PLAYABLE AYANE
Like the original 2004 Ninja Gaiden, the Black rerelease, original NG2, original NG3, and most other games in the series?

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>>738715868
>Why did her game fail?
It didn't. One of the best games ever made.

>>738727320
Ryu's gameplay is as barebones as it gets and the entire setup for the story is "Ryu fucked up and killed the dark dragon over Tokyo, then for some reason he helped establish a tyrannical private army over the city to make things worse, and only our brave hero Yakumo can go teach him a lesson" (even though Ryu himself says he has been waiting for someone like Yakumo for years, he attacks him on sight instead of helping him).

>>738728252
this retard is so autistic he cant comprehend the most basic trope where the hero acts as the villain to help the rookie mc

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>>738717969
>no Ayane no Momiji no Rachel no Nyotengu no Kasumi no Tamaki no Tsukushi no Sayuri no Shandy it was very weird to not have any of these inclusions very cringe
Kill yourself retarded gooner son of a whore.
NG4 stayed true to Itagaki legacy, no playable female characters, fuck off.

>>738727886
>Ninja Gaiden was never a big seller
Ninja Gaiden's revival on Xbox managed to sell 1 million copies in 2 months back then, as an exclusive on new platform that was still trying to take players from Sony and Nintendo. Ninja Gaiden 2 on the 360 also got to 1 million fairly quick.

The fact that since then, after becoming a multiplat series, Ninja Gaiden hasn't doubled its sales is concerning to say the least, the entire franchise to this day has sold 7.5 million copies total, when every mainline Ninja Gaiden has had multiple re-releases at this point, it shows the momentum the series had as a Xbox exclusive back didn't develop well, a sign of a mismanaged franchise.

Ninja Gaiden 4 overhauled itself with new gameplay mechanics and a new protagonist, all for naight since it didn't grow the franchise in any way.

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>>738718242
Smegma 2 is not Ninja Gaiden II, kill yourself secondary son of a whore.

>>738728329
A shit story setup doesn't become better just because it could be aligned with a trope.

>>738719440
Mondainai
Btw anyone here beat abyssal road or am I the only one who actually played the game?

>>738728471
you are so retarded and autistic

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>>738719440
Yakumo is based. One of the best characters ever made.

>>738728443
Sigma 2 with black mod is superior to the original.
Sigma 1 is still the best in the franchise.

>>738728040
No it means fucking nothing. It's a ninja gaiden game because it's in the title. Beyond that, a new entry obviously needs to evolve and change stuff, that's normal. There's nothing in 4 that's such a massive change that calling it a different game would be deserved.

>>738728406
>Ninja Gaiden 4 overhauled itself with new gameplay mechanics and a new protagonist
Discarding the entire setting, protagonist, supporting cast, visual style etc. is absolutely never going to work for a legacy sequel no matter how many times moronic writers attempt it. And it's certainly not an "overhaul".

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>>738728483
>Mondainai
BASED.
>Btw anyone here beat abyssal road or am I the only one who actually played the game?
I did: >>738728185

>>738715868
I can't even remember which Ghost in the Shell came out last, there was a ps1 and a ps2 one i think?

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>>738728583
>Sigma 2 with black mod is superior to the original.
Retarded secondary son of a whore, you will never ever belong.
>Sigma 1 is still the best in the franchise.
Smegma 1 sucks ass.

>>738728671
Saying words doesn't make it true
>>738728742
What a fucking pansy
Can't beat the Rachel stage huh

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>>738728252
>"Ryu fucked up and killed the dark dragon over Tokyo, then for some reason he helped establish a tyrannical private army over the city to make things worse, and only our brave hero Yakumo can go teach him a lesson"
That is not what happened. You never played the game.
95%+ of people posting in this very thread haven't played Ninja Gaiden 4 or if you did, you got filtered and are spreading lies about the game on purpose.

Skill issue + IQ issue. Therefore, kill yourself you retarded son of a whore.

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>>738715868
The actual issue with Yakumo being the protagonist is that his supporting cast has a weaker presence when compared to Ryu, people latched onto Seori because there's literally no one else, there's nothing to Umi, Tyran and the other dude whose name I already forgot.

Sidelining Ryu means sidelining Momiji, Rachel, Sonia and the DOA sluts, the fact that when Ayane's cutscene became known during streamers playing the game before release and it was one of the most discussed topics NG4 had for a few days is a clear cut case established popularity always being triumphant over new untested characters.

>>738728742
>"son of a whore"
People who say this phrase definitely come from respectable parts of the earth

>>738715868
Because they didn't had Kasumi in it.

>>738728406
1 million sales is a solid milestone, but there are plenty of Ninja Gaiden games that didn't sell nearly that well. Maybe the people who bought those two games are specifically fans of Ninja Gaiden games on Xbox made by Itagaki. They certainly didn't buy Dragon Sword or Devil's Third. The point is NG4 is a very good game, but the name "Ninja Gaiden 4" doesn't pull many people in no matter what the actual game is like.

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>>738728406
>when every mainline Ninja Gaiden has had multiple re-releases at this point
You are a secondary son of a whore who should kill himself, die a painful death you retard.

Smegma games are not Ninja Gaiden games.
NG3 and NG3:RE are not Ninja Gaiden games.

NGB and NGII never re-released.
The only Ninja Gaiden game that released on multiple platforms, is Ninja Gaiden 4.

The only good 3D Ninja Gaiden games are Ninja Gaiden Black, Ninja Gaiden II and Ninja Gaiden 4.

>>738728880
NOOOOOOO WAAAAAAAAY a returning character got more attention than new unknown characters ?? What the fuuuuck please become a game dev with your high IQ and save us

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>>738728862
I beat Master Ninja the second day after the game released then never touched that dogshit again. An insult to my favourite franchise. But I play NG1-2-3RE basically every week.

>make an entire new model and design
>she appears for like a minute
I guess it was just an early DoA7 showcase

>>738715868
Generic anime tittay woman's game? Yeah no clue

>>738720356
the gameplay is the worst in the franchise and just generic low IQ platinumslop while also being technically and artistically less impressive than any game in the franchise before it, so its not surprising every actual NG fan shits on this literal goyslop

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>>738728860
>What a fucking pansy
>Can't beat the Rachel stage huh
I don't play inferior dogshit made by parasites for retards. I play the original and true version of the game made by Itagaki.

Kill yourself secondaries, you retarded tourists, you poor sons of whores.

>>738729038
and they still got more attention now 8 months since Ninja Gaiden 4 released, solidifying the utter failure of everyone introduced in 4.

Ayane was already the second most popular Dead or Alive character right when DOA2 released by the way.

>>738728979
NG4 is by far the lowest selling game in the main series. There is no sales data for Dragon Sword but it's quite likely that it sold more than 4 as well considering it was on a popular platform and has been out forever. NG4 sold about 250k copies total, a clear sign it failed to attract legacy fans and a new audience alike.

>>738715868
I don't care about ninja flipout games, give me the tits where i can see them.

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>>738729053
If that was true, you wouldn't be retarded enough to not understand the story and completely misrepresent it. You are not fooling me you retarded son of a whore.

All True Ninja Gaiden fans will always hate NG3 and NG3:RE. Kill yourself you hayashit cocksucker.

>>738729212
A character released in an actual game and not a side char shown for 5 mins was popular? The fuck? How can this be

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>>738729127
Ayane was always a cameo in vanilla releases for Ninja Gaiden since 2, people got too used with the Sigma/Razor's Edge versions, coming to mistakenly think NG titles come with several playable characters on day one.

Since NG4 led people to fight over who should get the more screentime due the new protagonist exchange, they suddenly forgot the chances of Ayane being anything other an a glorified cameo again was always pretty high.

>>738728880
>supporting cast
NG2 never had any of those besides Sonia who was an NPC and kidnapped 99% of the game
You'd know this if you OG NG2 and not the re-releases

>>738715868
Mommy!

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>>738725501
Are you not entertained by the latest round of isekai with ironic/meta twists? Is that not why you are here?

>>738729325
I stated the events of the story as literally as possible. You are welcome to try to counter them. It is all stated in the game that Ryu killed the dragon over Tokyo, that he helped the DDO take over the city, and he also consistently holds back Yakumo from doing his job even though he knows Yakumo needs to succeed for the city to be saved. Feel free to find the inaccurate statement, if your brain is even able, fucktard.

>>738729484
Why are you bringing vanilla NG2 specifically? Your disingenuous ass had to pretend NG1 vanilla and even NG3 vanilla didn't exist? Where Ayane and Rachel (NG1) and literally everyone Ryu has ever met (NG3) appear all the time?

>>738715868
Ghost in the Shelf was always a bad story hardcarried by TITS
>inb4 but this isn—
it doesn't disprove anything i said

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>>738729570
>I stated the events of the story as literally as possible.
No, you didn't.
>You are welcome to try to counter them.
Okay, lets see what you said:

>"Ryu fucked up and killed the dark dragon over Tokyo, then for some reason he helped establish a tyrannical private army over the city to make things worse, and only our brave hero Yakumo can go teach him a lesson"

1. Ryu didn't fuck up, he succesfully killed the dark dragon, he has done so many times. The dark dragon keeps being revived because only a Raven Ninja can permanently kill the dark dragon. You might dislike this story, but it doesn't mean Ryu "fucked up". The only who "fucked up" is your whore mother for not aborting you when she had the chance, you low IQ retard.

2. The DDO has two leaders, a military wing and a political wing. Ryu deals with Kagashi, not the woman who leads the political wing. Ryu only co-operated on sealing the Dark Dragon and having the DDO keep Seori save, nothing else.

3. Yakumo doesn't teach Ryu any lesson, it is Ryu who teaches Yakumo a lesson, both in the main game and in the DLC story.

You are a lying low IQ son of a whore who should die a painful death.
Your whore mother should be raped to death for not aborting you when she had the chance.

Ninja Gaiden 4 is one of the best games ever made.

>>738715868
because there's no anal rape scene with her

I like the music.

>>738719440
should have dropped this faggot loser. make Ryu the MC and give him a shirtless skin and make sure he's glistening with sweat

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>>738730670

Ryu in NG4 is god mode. I only ever get the S-rank on MN with him lmao.

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>>738723669
Fatyane is a miracle of the universe.

>>738717963
>This woman is into BDSM
[citation needed]

>>738715932
It didn't fail

>>738730036
Kek I thought this was her too
>a bad story hardcarried by TITS
change story to game and this applies to NG too

>>738715868
Base game was incredible. The DLC not so much.
>>738731889
Do we actually know anything about this? I am down for more of Platja Gaiden.

>>738719440
This is seriously why I just stopped playing. His default design is fucking excruciatingly horrible and his other costumes aren't much better. All his weapons feel floaty I just don't give enough of a shit to play Master Ninja. I'll probably back and finally give Razor's Edge a shake. Yakuno and the whole Raven Clan angle was just so fucking dumb.

>>738732505
I don't like his haircut, but they did a good job referencing the master ninja Ryu design while making something different, and the game uses a shitload of black and white with red highlights that his design compliments. I'd like him as a side character, it's just surprising that playing as Ryu feels like a quick bonus in a Ninja Gaiden game.

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>>738731889
- Flopped spectacularly in Japan, 11k physical sales on release, that's fucking indie tier even in Japan.
- No official sales numbers from Koei Tecmo 7 months after release.
- No cope from Microsoft with their usual "player numbers" nonsense on Gamepass, meaning Xbox users didn't even download NG4 enough in order to make MS care.
- Koei Tecmo's earnings report last month mentioned Pokopia and Nioh 3 as strong titles with noteworthy sales, meanwhile not a single thing was said about NG4.
- In the same report Ninja Gaiden's lifetime sales for the whole franchise sits at 7.5 million copies, that number barely moved from last year's report.

All of this silence and dodging from Koei Tecmo on anything related to Ninja Gaiden 4 tells the game failed to meet any expectations they could ever had.

>dante gets sidelined and playable for literally only 4 missions
wohoo wacky dante white monster motorcycle :)
>ryu gets sidelined and playable for 4 missions but you can play every chapter as him after
IM NOT PLAYING NG4 ITS DOGSHIT THAT DOESNT CARE ABOUT ITS ROOTS

>>738723298
Finally. As good as the 90s film was it did damage to her characterization in almost every adaption since.

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>>738715868
Because I'm a poorfag and I can't afford to buy videogames anymore, as much as that game was one single exception I would have made for not buying new games.

Can't wait for the cyberspace orgies, Mangatoko bros.

Also the newly added horses and black men, Shirowsisters

>>738733564
Fantastic soundtrack.

>>738733354
more like
DMC4
>50/50 missions for Dante/Nero
>first mission is literally him beating the shit out of you as a badass boss
>fights powered up versions of Nero's bosses with ease
>best gameplay in the entire series
NG4
>4 missions LMAO
>loses to the twink faggot "main character"
>he's fighting literal copy pasted slops
>gutted moveset

>>738734025
oh I can't believe I forgot
>1 weapon
KEEEEEEEEEEK

>>738734025
Are you pretending to be retarded? Ryu also beats Yakumo in their first encounter and the best gameplay in the series is because of its system mechanics not because of his moveset I hope you're smart enough to realize the difference between those

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>>738715868
I actually thought this was a Gits thread when i was scrolling the catalog

>>738734209
oh I can't believe I forgot Ryu is also way stronger than Yakumo in terms of gameplay

>>738733354
DMC4:

- Dante appears in the first second of the game even though he is no longer the protagonist.
- Dante gets treated like a god, with all his weapons and abilities.
- Has to kill all bosses Nero failed to kill, save the very final boss Dante allowed Nero to kill to satisfy his need for payback.
- Has 7 missions to himself.
- His bitches appear alongside him.
- Very clearly holding back in every encounter against the new protagonist.

NG4
- Ryu literally does not appear in the game till 1 hour in.
- Ryu only gets 4 missions.
- ONE FUCKING WEAPON.
- None of his bitches appear. Ayane isn't his bitch and she barely appears either way.
- The gap in power between Yakumo and Ryu is so minimal people need to cope Ryu was actually holding back if you pull mental gymnastics by looking at a certain cutscene in 0.02x speed.
- The one fucking weapon Ryu has is rendered not unique when Yakumo gets his final weapon which steals many of Ryu's moves.

The difference is clear, DMC4 was politely asking for people give Nero a chance while revering Dante like the king he is, meanwhile Ninja Gaiden 4 was demanding you love Yakumo, Ryu is old news, you better be grateful he was even in the game.

>>738734209
>b-b-b-but
hayabussy got raped by yakhomo LMAOOOOOOO

Oh man it's hilarious seeing how DMC4 all of a sudden treated Dante right. Absolutely insane

>>738734493
It literally did retard, you're confusing DmC to DMC4. What a dumbass.

>>738715932
Literally why I turned down th egame.

yaiba literally treat ryu better than NG4
embarrassing

>>738734493
In comparison? Absolutely.

I was appalled upon hearing 19 years ago that Dante would not be the protagonist in DMC4, especially after the concept trailer for 4 and a concept art for it in 2006 indicated Dante seemed to be the protagonist still, no one knew Nero would ever exist yet.

Now that Ninja Gaiden 4 came and somehow thought treating Ryu like a fucking afterthought, it automatically made DMC4's treatment of Dante be a red carpet send-off.

>>738733354
It is even worse for Ninja Gaiden's case. At least with DMC4 at its time of release you could say "Dante has had three different voice actors and three different personalities in each game, it's not like there is an exact way to portray him". And yet they still portrayed him very positively making people like him even more.
On the other hand, Ryu Hayabusa IS Ninja Gaiden. Dude has had the same voice actor for over 30 years, the same traits and gameplay design since 2004, even the widely hated Yaiba spin-off included him and portrayed him very faithfully as a badass who destroys the spin-off protagonist in battle. But in NG4 he is incompetent, incapable, he loses to our new Tokyo Ghoul fanboy, and steps aside at the end, doing absolutely nothing whatsoever to help save the day.
Platinum thought they were better than everything that came before them and had zero respect for Ninja Gaiden, only seeing it as a chance to wipe things clean and show how good their new OC cast is. And the result was the lowest selling game in the series that killed the franchise permanently.

>>738734863
>that killed the franchise permanently.
enough about 3re

>>738734751
Ironically yes.

Ryu is not playable in Yaiba and doesn't appear much, but Yaiba never claimed itself to be Ninja Gaiden 4, and yet it still treated Ryu like a deity by killing Yaiba in the first scene and even managed to squeeze Momiji in it despite the minimal screentime Ryu has.

reminder btw nero was still literally treated as dead weight in DMCV
nero had to claw its way to be the main character, yakumo was given the throne in his first game

a lot of ng4 hate starts making sense when you realize you're arguing with 40 year olds

>>738735063
Looks like the 40 year olds are needed since Ninja Gaiden 4 didn't pull in all the young bloods a new setting and character like Yakumo should have brought.

>>738735057
>yakumo was given the throne in his first game
The approach that will always be divisive, you cannot force an audience to accept a new character this way.

>>738735172
ng4 wouldve been dead with ryu too no one cared about this series since 3 killed it, the community filled with 40 year olds that are never happy doesn't help either
at least im happy that you fags will be forever miserable

>>738735435
>at least im happy that you fags will be forever miserable
Then I'm elated to announce you won't be happy in this instance, I'm always glad to have other series that actually respect its legacy and characters to choose from, I can keep my older Ninja Gaiden titles at bay if I want to replay them, all is fine with me.

>One weapon
Yeah, so? Nero only had one weapon and one gun. And I am pretty sure every other playable characters via special editions only one weapon too.
That's just mean Ryu is a secondary character and that they didn't pussy out to go woth Yakumo, unlike with Nero.

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>>738730104
>Ninja Gaiden 4 is one of the best games ever made
post the sales numbers cockjockey, how well did nigayden?
post all the game awards won.

>>738715868
Newfags don't care thanks to steep price
Ng oldfags are still fighting amongst themselves because they can't decide what games in the series are even worth playing.
Devs received a minuscule budget post shitty launch so two masters dlc is very lackluster.
It'll get more recognition in time but not now

>>738715868
Because that strap under her tits would make titjobs more difficult

>>738737051
>Muh sales
So COD or Fortnite are GOTYs? Genshins or whatever gachas too?

>>738737051
>sales numbers and awards
I also love crowd pleasing slop. Genshin and wuthering waves best games of all time.

>>738737315
I just don't see why they bothered with the DLCs.

>>738737015
Nero was more fun to play than NG4 Ryu, get fucked

>>738737471
Yeah the dlc could have easily been packaged with base game. 2 new weapons, a 2 hour campaign and a tacked on 100 wave survival that doesn't even properly pick up until >50 waves in? What a pointless excuse to have a deluxe edition.

>>738737382
No but NG4 still fucking sucks and it worse than RE lol yellow paint grindsection game, what a fucking embarrassment

>>738715868
It's not Ninja Gaiden.

>>738737712
RE is great actually. More so than 2 even.

>>738737758
What makes Ninja Gaiden?

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>>738737382
>lemme deflect so i dont have to answer the question that could reveal just how poor the reception of nincompoop quatro is by the audience and that im by myself defending this undercooked lukewarm dogturd of a game.
post, sales, numbers, and, total, gameawards, won.

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game is to hard for the average souls cattle
if they dont have a stamina meter dictating turn-order like yellow paint they are completelly lost

the devs know this so they make the base difficulty to easy and then even the average chud asks himself "why am i playing this ?" "this is not engaging"

its just bad design all around. either you race to the bottom like everyone else and make a soulslike or you go ZERO compromises and hope your core audience carries the game into the mainstream

>>738737835
It's called Ninja RYUkenden, actually.

>>738735057
Dante calls him deadweight in an attempt to make him not fight Urizen. If Dante genuinely thought he was useless in a fight, he wouldn't have even brought him on that job. Nero has the first mission and final boss of both games he's in. DMC4 is almost entirely about Nero with Dante as a silly side character and sometimes villain. 5 splits the focus between the two of them more, even having someone related to both of them be basically behind the whole story. Nero was pushed heavily in 4 and was still pushed hard in 5. Yakumo was seemingly pushed more, but the first mission of NG4 wasn't a boss fight against the previous game's protagonist.

>>738715868
Game too expensive, gamers are generally too retarded. It isn't souls and ng doesn't get much interest outside of a small group of players, a lot of whom haven't even played ng.

>>738738103
Ninja dragon sword story, yes. Maybe that's why 4 is about a ninja getting a dragon sword.

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>>738738018
>im dodging the question. also yellow moss isnt yellow paint so HAHA gotcha!
post sales numbers.

>>738719440
This.

>>738738302
How do sales numbers correlate to game quality when mediocre releases like e33 and elden mid dominate awards and sales?

>>738738103
>Ninja Ryūkenden; lit. "Legend of the Ninja Dragon Sword"
Yes, and Yakumo use the Dark Dragon Sword at the end.

>>738735057
Not even true. He had to prove his worth to Ryu, or die trying. The first time Yakumo tussle with Ryu, he get his ass handed and had to flee.

>>738715981
It would be the best Taimanin game if it did.

>>738738302
Sure. Madden 07 sold more than 7 million copies.
You clearly believe sales numbers directly show how good a game is, so you must believe Madden is way better than Ninja Gaiden.

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>>738715868
IT SUCKED! to target

>>738715868
I feel like one of the few people to enjoy all 4 mainline team ninja NG games. Loved this one enough to beat hard, MNM, all challenges and dlc content. Will definitely return in a year or two.

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>>738738508
>mediocre
ninja gaiden is feminist sludge straight from the commie book ''deconstructing the hero archetype'' a guidebook on how to kill a men's heroes by portraying them as either weak or evil.

in Ryu's case hes casted as having sided with an evil organisation.
ninja gaiden 4 isnt a story about master ryu passing on the mantle to his protegé, its straight up about dismanteling Ryu's archievements and casting those in a evil light.

also, since you are a (potentially gay) stink-rimmed shitlord who for some reason never mentiones Ayane but seem to dedicate half your shilling to the twink hero noone but you cares about: Ayanes only appearance in this game is when shes spying on some dude swimming in a pool in a inversion of the ''male gaze''

>>738739373
What in the schizophrenia?

>>738739193
What do you think of the weapon balance in MNM in 4?
Still working on it myself but I have an hard time justifying myself not to stick with DDS.
I like all the games too, I just think they couldn't done more with 4.

>>738739373
You that upset about me not enjoying baguette slop and soulsslop 4? Didn't read most of your gay nigger rant as I enjoyed the gameplay and didn't really pay attention to the story but I'll take your word for it.

>>738731795
I like Fatyane's face

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>>738739373
>evil
So was Dante, he even shot the pope. Platinum were literally just badly copying DMC, down to focus on air combos and that shitty song during the first boss.

>>738739490
NTA. There is nothing to say about Ryu since he basically bulldoze the entire game no matter the difficulty.
As for the initial weapons for Yakumo, they definitly were made with specific situations in mind, so I guess its so-so. Except for the fun box, its fucking bullshit.
I didn't master the Sickle yet, so I can't really tell.

>>738739490
Ryus weapon is pretty interesting but feels very incomplete. I've seen people do some great set ups with it but I'm still very disappointed that not only is the movelist for his new weapon incomplete but in general I'm still salty how trimmed his DS moveset is compared to RE. Yakumos new scythe feels great and again feels good to set up combos and briefly immobilise enemies. The dlc as a whole feels very lackluster for how it was marketed but imo base game is solid enough that it didn't lose out on much by having a weaker dlc.

>>738739373
Your mother patiently awaits the day when you finally kill yourself.

>>738739373
Arab schizo rant. Feels right at home in a ninja gaiden thread.

>>738739373
Holy unc

>in Ryu's case hes casted as having sided with an evil organisation.
Bruh, the Ninja way knows neither good nor evil.

>>738738213
>as a silly side character
Did you watch the Agnus vs. Dante cutscene and thought you could pretend you played the whole game?

Dante is THE one fixing the mess in Fortuna by actually destroying the portals and killing its guardians, Nero accomplished literally nothing until he got absorbed into the Saviour and Dante lent him Yamato to mess up Sanctus' plan. Dante with less screentime was still far from being a "silly side character".

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>>738738508
I very, very, very rarely praise elden cringe but ninja reddit 4 literally makes it look like mona lisa. E33 prison rapes ninja reddit 4 too. You suck ass at ninja gaiden and are the definition of a retarded poser secondary who was there day 1 proving how big of a fake fan you are for 79.99e plus tip because this pile of shit has the ninja reddit sticker on it, and since you dont know shit about this franchise and never gave a fuck about it to begin with, obviously now that its generic easy platinum goyslop its "da best in the series" and "finally good". Unironically go fuck yourself and keep clapping like a seal when faginum kills the next franchise you pretend to like so that you can finally enjoy it too for a week before forgetting about it

>>738740169
Keep projecting fag

>>738740169
>now that its generic easy platinum goyslop its "da best in the series" and "finally good".
Incindeary.
But god damn were the first threads full of nothing but retards like that
>"NG4 is the only good game in the series"
I couldn't believe the bullshit I was reading.

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>>738739568
>brings final french fantasy and elden ring into the conversation,
again, post sales numbers.
Hint: lies of P blew ninja gaiden out of the water with 5x the sales numbers dispite having the exact story and gameplay mechanics.

>>738739486
>What in the schizophrenia?
original trilogies' male hero gets deconstructed in the 4th movie/game and replaced by a litteral who the fuck younger more diverse hero.
Examples:
rey in starwars 7: a new jedi,
nigresse in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Dysentery,
Ellie/Abby in TLOU2,
Twinkboy Ninlet in Ninja Gaiden 4
this is just of the top of my head, if you cant see whats happening in ninja gaiden 4 you sir have the media litteracy of a nematode flatworm living on the bottom of the mariana trench.

>>738740087
That's what Genshin said and both Joe and Ryu disagreed, Ryu operates on the belief that he is working for the forces of good, "the fragility of evil" is a stock phrase he uses whenever killing the main villain of a game.

NG3 tried to argue against Ryu's morality by saying he kills too much to be good, that alone established Ryu operates on morality, he is not like Genshin who believes the ninja way is neither good or evil.

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>>738739373
1. Ryu doesn't need to pass the mantle to some cringe protegé, because Ryu is in his prime and isn't going to quit anytime soon.
2. DDO is not an evil organization.
3. Ninja Gaiden 4 doesn't deconstruct anything.
4. You are a low IQ retarded son of a whore who didn't play the game. Your whore mother should be raped to death for not aborting you when she had the chance.

I liked that online multi-player one.

>>738715868
I was going to buy it until I saw the giant yellow "go here retard" platforms and decided not to

>>738740310
Performative nigger is late to the party. Ryu got deconstructed in 3.

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>prepurchase the game
>play it on game ass just in case, because it IS platinum making it
>the game is literally dogshit
>refund immedieatly
God damn I dodged a bullet

>>738740310
>lies of P blew ninja gaiden out of the water with 5x the sales numbers
I know. But I also played it and know full well it's a very mediocre soulsshit title that sells on that tag alone.

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>>738740327
>Ryu is in his prime
why isnt he the hero of ninja gaiden 4?
>>738740327
>You are a low IQ retarded son of a whore who didn't play the game.
Your whore mother should be raped to death for not aborting you when she had the chance.
>>738730104
>You are a lying low IQ son of a whore who should die a painful death.
Your whore mother should be raped to death for not aborting you when she had the chance.

and your mom dropkicked your head onto the tablecorner. spamming the same insults over and over is a sign of severe mental deficiency.
also rape, lol you are a jeet i can smell the kurkuma through my screen.

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>>738740248
Theres zero projection here, just what ive witnessed from following the discussion since the second the first trailer was out. If you didnt already clock that this game was going to be pure shit by the second gameplay trailer, you probably dont know shit about this franchise. And even after that I finally gave the game the fairest shot of them all (aka actually fucking playing it), and my opinion of it couldnt have gotten any lower after beating it once on hard and then doing new game master instantly afterwards (something that no limpwristed faginum drone will literally ever do since they made sure to soften the franchise for gaystation kiddies and trannies like you, so youre now "expected" to play master ninja on NG+ with all unlocks)

The game plays NOTHING like NG and has probably less in common with NG than any fucking random devil may cry game. Absolutely amateurish generic trash and its so pathetically obvious they quickly repurposed whatever they had for MGRR 2 into ninja reddit 4 by slapping a different sticker on it and replacing raiden with some aliexpress techwear zoomie, and when microshit asked them wheres Ryu roughly 18 months into development, they panicked and tacked him on as an unlockable character with 2 hours of playtime in the first campaign, repeating fagumos missions worse than Dante ever did infamously in DMC4

Zero conception of what the base mechanics and core principles of the franchise are
Zero respect for Ryu Hayabusa and the legacy of this franchise
Completely pussified asexual shit for tiktok zoomies who unironically think fagumo looks cool and that we need to "be better" than put characters like big booby demon hunter woman in the game where every male was 1:1 lifted from conan the barbarian
Music is fucking wannabe MGRR embarrassmentcore dogshit, its easy as fuck, costs more than every other good NG game combined nowadays, and it runs like shit even though it looks like a fucking PS3 game. Go fuck yourself

>>738740607
Lies of P also has a cuter protagonist. LAMEkumo didn't even break his mask during the final boss fight.

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For me, it's DOA 4.

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>>738715868
>release ninja gaiden game in 2026
>dont let you play as any of the girls in any of the game modes
breh

>>738740793
Terminally online brownoid cope as expected

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>>738740763
>why isnt he the hero of ninja gaiden 4?
Ninja Gaiden 4 and its story is mostly about Yakumo. Ryu is part of it, but not the center of it. That is the story. As far as gameplay goes, you can play the entire game with Ryu, which I did.
>spamming the same insults over and over is a sign of severe mental deficiency.
My IQ is in top 1% of world population, mensa certified. I use the same sentence because it is the correct response to you low IQ subhuman retards.
>also rape, lol you are a jeet i can smell the kurkuma through my screen.
Yes, rape and torture, that is what both you and your whore mother deserve. You are smelling the smell of your own surrounding, stop projecting.

>>738741002
Kill yourself Smegma secondary son of whore.

>>738741185
>son of bastard bloody
Calm down zsenzy

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>>738741185
After you, ESL

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NG4 is the best NG. Kneel to Chadkumo

>>738715868
Market is too saturated. I planed on buying it but ended up playing other games during its launch. I might get around to playing it someday.

>>738741282
>bastard bloody
I never said that. I said son of a whore, which you low IQ retards are. Jeets will never steal "son of a whore".

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>>738741095
>My IQ is in top 1% of world population, mensa certified
you know how its only ugly low-esteem people who walk around shirtless thinking they have a hot body and its never the people who we actually want to see shirtless because handsome people know their worth?
its the same with pseudo-intellectual fags on the Internet boasting about their I.Q.
you are a lying retard lying to pretend you arent actually an retard or an intellectual whore whos only worth is some shit on a paper written by some jew-ridden institute that measures intelligence along some vague lines.

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>>738741313
Gooner smegma secondary, go fuck a real woman, or are you too short? too ugly? or is your penis too small? What is it?

God bless Itagaki for not having playable female characters in Ninja Gaiden Black and Ninja Gaiden II.
God bless Platinum Games for staying true to the true Ninja Gaiden experience with NG4 and not having playable female characters.

KILL YOURSELF.

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NG4 is the best NG since there isn't a single chapter where you roll your eyes and barely want to play it. The most ughhhhhh sections are the surf parts which only chapter 2 spams them since it's the introduction of them.
Meanwhile NG2 has 5 playable sections, not even chapters. Never ask a NG2 fan to show clips that aren't from ch1/2/church/plane/ch11.

>>738741765
>too short? too ugly?
Enough about oatmeal cookie man, let him rest.

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Why would a policeman need an ass this big?

>>738741750
>you know how its only ugly low-esteem people who walk around shirtless thinking they have a hot body and its never the people who we actually want to see shirtless because handsome people know their worth?
>its the same with pseudo-intellectual fags on the Internet boasting about their I.Q.
1. False analogy. If you weren't a low IQ subhuman retard, you wouldn't make this false analogy.
2. The low IQ retard I replied to brought intelligence into the debate, I simply responded. If you weren't a low IQ subhuman retard, you would understand this.
3. It is always the low IQ retards who are insecure and envious that get triggered whenever IQ is brought into the conversation. Deal with it you low IQ retarded son of a whore.
>you are a lying retard lying to pretend you arent actually an retard or an intellectual whore whos only worth is some shit on a paper written by some jew-ridden institute that measures intelligence along some vague lines.
1. IQ is not something written on a peper, it is a human attribute just like weight and height.
2. Of course, there comes to anti-Jewish racism, typical low IQ subhuman. I wish the Jews were truly ruling the world and truly were conspiring to enslave or genocide you low IQ subhumans, but unfortunately, they are not as powerful as you anti-Jewish racists claim. I actually know who truly is in control of this world, unlike you.

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>>738741765
>im a faggot with yellow fever
>>738741820
>im a faggot with yellow fever

too bad your feelings for japan and Itagaki arent reciprocated since Itagaki is a massive westaboo who thinks that screeching karens on twitter and leftists deconstructing male heroes should be taken serious and seen as beacons guiding the way forwards better games instead of seeing them for the clowns they are.

>>738741820
The surf sections chasing the shark were pretty fun imo

>>738741820
>The most ughhhhhh sections
I didn't know NG4 tags were tiktok teenagers, it explains a lot really. I'm so glad the game underperformed.

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>>738742064
Itagaki San got more bitches than you ever will in your miserable life, you gooner Smegma secondary. Go fap to drawings and pictures of ayane you loser.

>>738742107
helps her bring Undesirable Elements to heel more easily.

>>738742228
>>im a faggot with yellow fever
???

What are you even talking about low IQ retarded subhuman son of a whore. Your whore mother should be raped and tortured to death for not aborting you when she had the chance.

>>738742107
Black neighborhoods

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>>738742131
>I actually know who truly is in control of this world, unlike you.
you arent even in control of this conversation.

Back in the day, was Ayane or Kasumi more popular?

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>>738741820
Ninja Gaiden 4 is the best Ninja Gaiden game and the hardest, it filtered Farnham the Cumdrunk Faggot and exposed him live on stream.

>>738742238
Typing a sigh = tiktok, alright.
>>738742235
I liked it too with the music constantly switching. Best part is when you randomly end up in the third area on a balcony and fight normal soldiers then you go back to the blue world/disco area.

>>738721320
carried hard by the (admittedly great) ost and fmv

>>738715868
Doesn't she only show up for like 5 minutes in the main game?

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Ghost In The Shell(animated) and SAC are not the only Gits that matters but also the only good ones.
No, the manga was never good and the new anime will flop. It's just a bunch of quirky chungus shit filled with degenerate fetishes from a degenerate man that failed at being an artist.
Gits would be literally NOTHING without that movie. NOBODY ever cared about the manga but hipsters and porn addicts.
And the "most successful and good" game that franchise "has" is s game called Oni.
I long to see the new anime falling apart and fraud checking the source material.

I still don't understand how to play the sickle. Is it useless outside of Blood form?

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>>738740087
People thinking Ryu is not a kind and caring person is the result of (ironically) his ninja discipline and stoic exterior successfully tricking people who don't actually play the series and don't know what's really behind the mask.

>>738742406
>and the hardest
according to literally nobody who plays NG

>>738742990
>Big arms
>Babyface
BULLSHIT

>>738741820
The underground nightclub levels were pretty boring imo, one of the more interesting environment designs but the enemies there are a slog to get through

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>>738742990

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>>738742131
>OH GOD! I LOVE SUCKING JEW DICK, HOLY FUCK, I LOVE DROWNING IN HAREDI CUM I HATE RACISTS AND DUMB CHUDCELS I LOVE JERKING OFF TO HOW SMART IAM.
this is the most pussyjuiced reddit-core comment ive ever read.

I had fun so it was the best game in 2025 for me.

>>738715868
Argumenting on 4chan is inherently low IQ.