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Truth nuke
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Yes it does, my taste is objectively correct.
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>>738719049
I'm personally into Dragon's Dogma 2 and it's a bad game without mods
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>>738719049
I dont understand how an innoucous statement causes the average /v/tard to shit themselves in rage.
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>>738719084
this person speaks for me as well
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>>738719049
Wrong
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>>738719049
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>>738719049
>>738719230
Both statesments are correct
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Sounds like cope for a stream of turds to me, Xbox.
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Oh shit.. sometimes the lore hits different.
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>>738719049
I'm not going to buy your games anyway.
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>Just because the consumer doesn't like the (((product))) doesn't mean it's a bad (((product)))!!!
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>>738719049
how much did the mixtape devs pay them to say this?
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>>738719049
Reminder: just because you like a game doesn't mean it's not dogshit.
It just means your taste is bad.
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>>738719049
I can't believe I have to agree with a fucking company account. Obviously their agenda is "buy ALL games even poorly received ones" but it's still a true statement regardless.
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>>738719230
fake tweet its only 5:00 right now
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>>738719049
if this is true, then it also doesn't mean that it's a good game if you actually are into it.
so how do we know its a good game or not, if the opinion of a single person doesn't matter? i wonder...
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>>738719375
Wrong. What is the measure of quality of an entertainment product if not the ability of the product to entertain the consumer? There's no intrinsic value to video games outside of people playing and enjoying them. If nobody likes a game then it's objectively a bad game and then you have everything else in between.
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>>738719049
TRVKLEAR APOCALYPSE
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I seriously hope you retards are walking correctly..
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>>738719472
Yeah, if we accept your assumption that everything is an "entertainment product", then of course its quality is to entertain a consumoid.
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>>738719472
so games must pander to the most common denominator like Call of Duty?
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>>738719472
The thing is when you say 'people' and 'consumer' in your own context you mean them as a group. The tweet is specifically about individuals.
Basically just because you dislike a game it does not mean it is objectively bad enough for other, potentially large, groups of people to hate too.
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what if I'm the specific target audience for that game and I played all the others in the genre and even the ones this is a sequel too and liked them but this one is so disappointing I can't bring myself to play for more than an hour? is it still a good game for the ones who are into it? because this has been happening a lot in the past decade
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>>738719551
Other people's opinion of the quality of the game is irrelevant, the only opinion that matters is your own. If I don't like it it's bad. What kikesoft is trying to do here is quality relativism.
>"I don't like the game but the game is good guys! Even though the whole point of the game existing is for me to like it which it fails to do so!"
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>Guys I went to this restaurant yesterday and I really didn't like the food, I literally puked after tasting it but the food is good!
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>>738719653
not to defend microslop, but I don't like RTS games for example, still I tried starcraft and it seems like a very well made deep game, so I wouldn't call it bad, what they're trying to qualify here is me not liking games that I SHOULD, an fps for example. I'm the ultimate fps authority, if I'm calling an fps bad, it's written in stone and no one else should play it.
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>>738719049
Reminder.
If i say an obviously subjective statement like "thing is bad" that doesnt mean im claiming it to be the objective truth.
Dont be a redditbrain faggot
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>>738719084
this.
fpbp.
/thread
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>>738719856
>never voice your opinion about the quality of our products because quality is subject goyim!
I don't like the game therefore it is SHIT and that's the objective truth.
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>>738720092
You are genuinely a low iq retard. But for some, that's something to be proud of, I guess.
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>>738720227
I'm actually very smart.
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>>738719084
Based
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Correct. If you do not like fighting games, your taste is shit OR you're incapable.
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>>738719049
This common sense statement makes /v/ seethe for some reason.
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>>738719049
wrong
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>>738719084
This but unironically
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>>738719161
Because nobody wants to be preached shallow platitudes from a brand.
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>>738719049
>you can't use subjective terms to describe your subjective taste
This is passive-aggressive pussy bitch mentality.
What you like is good. What you don't like is bad. There's nothing in existence that's objectively good or bad.
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>>738719049
nice try silksongfags
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well that's a step up from "it doesn't matter if it's a bad game, you have to buy it anyways or you're an economic terrorist", at least
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>>738722152
>it doesn't matter if it's a bad game, you have to buy it anyways or you're an economic terrorist
nobody said this, take your meds
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>>738719049
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>>738719049
>>738719230
Wrong, both are correct, it's just that someone calling something a bad game isn't an objective fact, but an opinion.
Autists don't get this
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>>738719084
fpbp
im the person experiencing this world, not you
therefore i am the most important person in the world to me and ultimately correct
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>>738719049
>Reminder: just because youre not personally into eating shit, doesnt mean its disgusting to eat shit
ban for twitter screencap threads
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>>738719161
I don't know understand how you think you'll make any impact by shilling on 4chan.
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>>738722650
I'm an Indian with no functional thought process. How would I get opinions to discuss without screencapping Twitter and phoneposting the result?
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>>738719049
Using this brilliant logic no game can ever be bad and nothing can ever be criticized.
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>>738719084
based
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>>738719084
This.
Moreover every game is by default bad until proven otherwise (by Anonymous).
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>>738719049
But of course.
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>>738719084
fp objectively bp
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>>738719084
this but ironically
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>>738719084
you have to post the chad picture while saying this
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>>738719084
based fpbp
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>>738723435
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Mixtape doesn't have any gameplay so it is objectively a bad game.
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>>738719049
>JUST LIKE THE FUCKING GAME YOU FUCKING GOY
you lost, libtards. get fucked, microjeet
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I've never seen any game spend so much on gifts to so many different people and outlets to promote it.
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>>738719084
fucking based
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>>738719049
True and based. A rare combination from Xbox.
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>>738719161
I really wish lurking was still a thing.
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>>738719084
TRVTH ICBM
If (You) don't like it, then it's shit. Simple as. No arguments needed.
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>>738725572
Nah, that's actually a boring as hell way to live. Seeing the flaws in things you like and the merits of things you don't is interesting.
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Gamers are too obsessed with the idea of manipulating the market by applying a universal value assessment (i.e “it’s shit”, “it’s kino”) to engage with games as an art form.
Mixtape is shilled as fuck like that Stray game was though so I don’t care about it
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>>738719049
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>>738724925
>anon reads reddit
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>>738719084
fpbp
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>>738719084
Yep.
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>>738719049
Why are you so scared to reply directly to the twitter post? Stop behaving like a woman by looking for validation on 4chan.
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>>738726148
>>738719914
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>>738719161
It's ok to be White
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>>738719161
It's so cowardly. Implicitly it's saying that the highest value is avoiding conflict, because if you state something forcefully and definitively then you are excluding people that disagree with you and that is a recipe for passionate argument and we can't have that. Fuck this cucked shit. It's better to have conviction and be willing to stake out a position and defend it. That's how meaning gets produced.
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>>738725327
I get that his only claim to fame is making le meme face but this is just sad.
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>>738719049
Your favorite game is still legit dogshit tho
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>>738725819
No, it's an authentic way to live. You can see the merits in games you don't like, but they are still ultimately bad games because you have real reasons for disliking them or else why would you dislike them?
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>>738719049
>just because you're really into a game, doesn't mean it isn't dogshit

see how that works
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>>738729351
Nta but different people weight different elements of games differently and having reasons to dislike a game doesn’t mean they are not retarded reasons
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>>738719049
Microsoft should spend more time learning something they never learned in 2001, how to make a game over trying to lecture people on social media. Nintendo, Sony, and Valve know how to make video games because they know that video games are like hardware, they're mechanical. Why is this so hard for Microsoft to understand and do? Why are Microsoft's games so low quality and cost more to make like their shitty Xbox consoles?
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Just because a game is good doesn't mean people are going to buy it.

Sun Tzu
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>>738729483
youre really just not getting this at all. He is just saying to voice your opinion, and not start calling games you dont like good because of some cultural pressure. Fuck man
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>>738719049
True. I don't call a game shit because I don't like it, I call it shit because it's shit.
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>>738719161
Because Microsoft should shut the hell up and learn how to make a video game. Dumb statements like this are why you won't see another Xbox or even the Xbox name past 2030. It's 2026 and those bastards still learned nothing. It's time for Microsoft to leave gaming.
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>>738729561
If your opinion is “the game is shit” and I tell you why I like the game and you start trying to fight me over retarded bullshit I don’t care about I am rightfully going to call you a retard
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>>738729750
and you will get rightfully called a retard back because we are getting into a heated argument over matters of opinion
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>>738719161
/v/ is for people that don’t play games to complain about them when it’s not the /pol/ kiddie pool. The statement is the antithesis of the whole place.
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objectively bad games gamers think it's good: jedi survivor

objectively great games gamers think it's bad: tlou2
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>>738719301
>64M years of lore
>actually only 1 hour and 11 minutes
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>>738729820
shalom fellow redditor!
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>>738729483
That's not my problem though. I have a vision of what games should strive to be and other people that disagree are just wrong. I am not too rigid about this, I can be convinced out of my specific vision, but that's my operating position.

Also your two statements are contradictory. You start off by assuming that standards are subjective by saying people weigh things differently, but then you sneak in an objective standard and state that people dislike games for "retarded" reasons.
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>>738729963
>You start off by assuming that standards are subjective by saying people weigh things differently, but then you sneak in an objective standard and state that people dislike games for "retarded" reasons.

So if I went into a thread for a new fps game and said
>this game is shit, it places way too much emphasis on aiming
This would be a totally reasonable opinion, and if I went into threads about this game to say this for years at a time in an effort to police discussion of the game this would be reasonable behavior
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>>738719084
"No."
Chud
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>>738719049
How else is it supposed to be determined smart gui?
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>>738729351
I dislike Resident Evil 5 because it is a co-op shooter at heart and I fundamentally dislike co-op shooters, but it makes more sense to assert that co-op shooters aren't for me rather than say the genre as a whole is unilaterally, intrinisically shit. I only believe the latter if I genuinely believe no one should engage with a thing. Like modern Facebook for example, THAT is unilaterally, intrinsically shit. Resident Evil 5 is, by most accounts, a good co-op shooter. I do not like it specifically because it is a co-op shooter, as I dislike the genre at length. Does that make it shit? If you're simple enough then I suppose it does. I think it's good for others, but terrible for me. That's how thinking beyond one's own perspective works.
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>>738730160
Yes. Most people will obviously disagree with you, but you shouldn't fall for peer pressure. If you have conviction, just state your opinion. Maybe you will change other people's perspective, or you will change yours. That's what a discussion is. Doing it for years at a time is probably not a good idea though. The ROI on that isn't great.
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>>738730590
The fact you frame it as ROI is exactly what makes you an obnoxious faggot
>expressing your opinion is about winning!
Muh izzat right
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>>738719049
If I didn't enjoy a game, how can it possibly be good?
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>>738730587
This is very simple. Do you not have legitimate reasons for disliking co-op games?
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>>738730790
That's not the point, you idiot.
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>>738730947
Opinionated ones, yes. I do not treat that as an objective truth. Nothing about opinion is objective by its very nature. If it objective, then it becomes truth, and truth is beyond reproach. Resident Evil 5 being bad is an opinion that can very reasonably be reproached, somewhat to my dismay.
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>>738730837
Blind people can't enjoy a sunset but that doesnt mean it cant be beautiful
The amount of enjoyment in media is very opinionated. If youre predisposed to not enjoy horror movies, no one should expect you to have a high opinion of them.
You're allowed to dislike things.
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>>738731237
All of it is opinion. You’re so confused about this. Saying co-op games are bad is a statement of opinion. Stop being a bitch and state what you believe with your chest.
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>>738731527
I do, I'm just not so up my own ass as to assert it as truth. I know damn well it's an opinion, and I know damn well what an opinion is and isn't.
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>>738719049
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>>738719049
Correct. Except for me, because I have the right opinions on everything.
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>>738731627
No, you're too much of a neurotic cuck that always has the reaction of the collective in the back of your mind. So you can't be big dicked and simply say "This game fucking sucks," instead it's some timid shit like "This game is not for me. Please don't be judge me. Please don't start a conflict."
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>>738719375
Can you name a game you consider "good" even though you don't like it?
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>>738719084
>t.
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>>738719084
he's just like me...
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>>738719161
"Silence, brand" should have been made the norm since its creation.
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If it was a good game I would be into it.
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I uninstalled x
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>>738732147
Nta but all of the Larian games, I find the humor grating and that the open endedness undermines the RPG elements too much but I can acknowledge some people value freedom and easily broken games are balanced experience
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>>738731505
Eye of the beholder and all that, but xbox employee is presupposing that a game is already good before it is called bad. All of it is subjective because we're using GOOD and BAD. It's a rancid non-statement and people are here to shit on an easy target because they're bored.
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>>738719049
Based Xbox defending Rapelay lovers
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>>738731005
>>738732103
>that’s not the point
>”Please don't be judge me. Please don't start a conflict."

Clearly it is the point, it’s a “conflict” and you want to win.
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>>738719049
>immediately destroys all the good will the new CEO built up
Unless she fires all the subversives she'll never fix xbox.
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>>738719049
CoD and FIFA are bad games because I fucking despise those games.
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>>738724925
Checked a thread about the "bug" fix.
> Can't we just add this as a feature/toggle and move on about our day
>>Yes, toggle to make ugly short for the puritans, and toggle to make it a gstring for gooners, while default remains uncensored default, so then everyone is happy
Based.
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>>738732103
I'm not reacting to anything, I just know the world doesn't revolve around me. I'll state my opinion, and if someone opposes then I'll want to know why instead of jumping straight to calling them a fucking retard. I only get to that point when a person has well and truly earned it, but I'll hear opposing views out. Sometimes I learn from them.
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>>738719049
But /v/ insisted I draw the line on such matters:

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/738108112/#738129547
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>>738732759
You're too retarded. I raised the possibility of having your perspective changed in a discussion. How is that playing to win? Stupid idiot.
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>>738726412
Visibility? Theyre usually fat and hard to miss anyway.



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