>>738719807
nah

I'm trying it out now just because it was in Humble this month. Haven't started yet but the cinematic was actually good. Looking forward to being disappointed.

>>738719807
D4 is a 1 button game and the expansion hasn't changed that. If you want to run through a Diablo game where all you have to do to win is press 1 button then you'll like it.

"so much better" of course comes with the caveat of improvements covering only specific areas that are high-priority for a specific playstyle ("endgame"). Most things about it are unchanged, be it the UI, skill animations, sound effects, non-expansion content (story, areas, music, bosses...), etc.

But crucially, many of the things that weren't already changed range from great (combatfeel) to at least decent (story). And in contrast, while D4 hasn't changed its identity as "the casual Diablo2like", it has removed anti-fun aspects (like running to nightmare dungeons, now you just press button to teleport), and the loot system, rather than it being solely about being entirely dependent on RNG in hunting for marginally better rolled versions of items you already have, allows you to use items that drop as bases for modifying them to better suit your needs, and allows "actually big", meaningful, upgrades (multiple "greater affixes", or desirable stats on uniques - in the previous version they always rolled with the same stats). Also, the expansion content is generally of higher quality than the base game content (although that was mostly "at least decent" to begin with).

Personally, I didn't play Diablo 4 since its launch, and instead my Diablo2like routine was mostly filled by Last Epoch, a couple of runs in Grim Dawn, Path of Exile 2 launch (I dropped that game, too, the next patch sounds like it might be the place to reacquaint myself with it once more), even a brief stint in one or two Diablo 3 seasons. But I think I'm now adding it to my "rotation": the systems (loot, character-progression, endgame activities, etc) are now "good enough" that the good parts are enjoyable. And that kinda sorta is a quantitative leap that can be described as "so much better" (from "not being worth playing past the campaign" to "being worth playing past the campaign"), but you have to understand the specific meaning.

Has the memory leak been fixed

MORE
LIKE
DIABLOWS

Everytime a Blizzard expansion or new hero comes out there a billion posts about how it's totally fixed and saved. Then a month goes by and it's nothing but people shitting on the game.

>>738720652
WORLD OF DIABLOCRAFT IS SAVED

The only hard fight in the game has like a minute of cutscenes every attempt and everything is a one shot. Once again, I only see two classes running around in the highest difficulty as a result and it's thr two that can instantly kill him. Also rerolled Barb a few days ago and instantly killed him last night. Done with the season, Blizzard just makes the same mistakes over and over again copying the worst tendencies of other games.

>>738719807
D4 at release was blatantly designed by committee.
Now, it at least feels like it's designed by somebody who played an arpg before. I'd say it's in the state it should've been at release.
Multiplayer is still quite clunky and some minor things are annoying.
It's better than poe2 at least.

ww barb is OP

>>738720652
It's almost as if those posts aren't genuine.

I kinda like the story so far, kino plot twist in the village

>>738719807
It's the best ARPG on the market so if you like ARPGs, yes, it's worth it.

>>738721484
>get to T12
>only see WW barbs and ball lightning sorcs
I also saw one of the lightning blizzard sorcs which is absolute eye rape, I can't believe someone could play that and think it's okay. Surprised Warlock is just okay and Paladin seems kind of shit.

>>738720536
lol. it has not.

>>738719807
wait for the next expansion so you can get this one for free, then to this for the next expansion too, and the next one

>>738720536
No lmao.

>>738719807
I never played it and can't because it's always online and therefore functionally non-pirateable, so I say it's a shitty game. You should play PoE because the saars who employ me say I need to get more stash tabs sold or I'll be beaten.

>>738722008
Paladin got hit with the nerfs after they released it early for people who pre-ordered.
Same shit they did with Spiritborn.

>paying for a f2p mobile game
immortal is free

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>immediately start the game
>greeted with AI text-to-speech as I'm put in a queue to log in as you have to play online

>>738722234
Immortal and 3 are for blizzdrones.

>>738719807
They basically cowarded out bigly and just made it mechanically into Diablo 3-2 but with D2's rune system.

Story wise they panicked and killed off all the female characters and brought back Tyrael and Zultan Kulle and all the D4 original stuff like the Tree of Whispers was destroyed as well.

Basically they want the current expansion to wipe the slate clean and return to the D3 status quo and pretend D4 never really happened.

please come back.

>>738722280
.........and diablo 4 is not?

>>738722323
No, Diablo 1, 2, and 4 are anomalies. Anything else made by Blizzard is for blizzdrone goycattle slave shills.

>>738722128
>>738722047
fuc ksake
after about 2h the game just BLASTS my ram takes 10/32 and dumps everything into my pagefile

>>738722313
hi just wanted to let you know that you have autism, I can tell from the way you used the word "basically" twice in your post.

>>738719807
It's the most popular ARPG on the market by orders of magnitude.
Yesterday's peak CCU was 3.1mil across all platforms.
Surely that many gamerdads can't be wrong, right?

>>738722234
The Chinese version of D4 is mobile-tier. The global version is fine, it's just turning into D3 but with more agency in your progression via some stolen tuned down ideas from PoE and Last Epoch. Fun for a week or two each season.

D4 still looks like mobile TRASH

the endgame is filled with absolute shit systems
cluttered to the brim

>>738719807
No because youd still need to get through the garbage content until the Stockholm syndrome kicked in

>>738722386
Funny, a year ago it was cooking my CPU. Same problem, now it cooks my memory. I remember when Blizzard was a stamp of quality and release dates were "when it's ready". Even Belial spawns have been bugged out for me for days, Mephisto won't start his refight, and an ascension dungeon teleported me to a regular non-nightmare dungeon and ate my key a few days ago.

>>738722475
Show proof of purchase.

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>>738722475
>cluttered to the brim
I've played PoE for a decade, this is nothing. Also mousing over materials tells you exactly where to get them, it's so simple now, you just "do stuff" via war plans unless you're targeting a specific unique.

>>738722723
Poe has them more streamlined

It suffers from the same thing that all arpgs suffer from.

>>738722689
>Spielen
Ah, you're a joyless kraut. Does that version even have demons and blood, or are they rats that bleed green slime?

>>738722586
Watching it casually go from 8GB to 14GB in memory really pisses me off.

>>738722815
Good one, D4 still looks like mobile slop

No. And it's not Diablo. Blizzdrones should stay on Reddit.
>inb4 they will scream and shit themselves over pooe because they have no other defence

>>738722912
Blizzdrones are the ones that like D3, Immortal, and games with "craft" in the title.

>>738722843
>>738722586
i THINK ifixed it for me at least
dlss turned on no matter which setting makes my ram disappear in a matter of an hour
with dlss completely off
everything else turned to medium it stays a around 7gb
has been for the past 3h
try it
oh and ive not downloaded the high quality texture pack as i recall it had problems on launch and just still might

>>738722912
>Blizzdrones
Even those of us that are enjoying the game are just saying "yeah it's okay", I don't see any glowing praise here that isn't ironic. You're swinging at shadows, anon. Also we're all autistic and rotate at least 2 other ARPGs.

>>738723057
The people who constantly call D4 players Blizzdrones have participated in at least 3 pride events in WoW.

Diablo 3 is the most based Diablo
If you disagree you're clearly low IQ

>>738723016
I'll give it a shot later on anon, thanks.
On another note, is Warlock the most balanced class they released?
It's not as overpowered like Paladin and Spiritborn were on their release but I don't know if that's because they already suckered people into preordering to play the most broken unkillable paladin yet, and decided not to bother with Warlock.

so im still in the story
i dont understand what helltide is
what warplans are
what i do at max level

>>738723308
I miss Monk and the arrogant Chinese Wizard girl.

>>738719807
No. People say this shit for every expansion pack to any game ever.

>>738723346
Not sure why people claim paladin was super broken, it was strong but it has nothing on release spiritborn. Season 13 whirlwind immortal barb is probably their second most busted class they've ever made, it feels like enabling tgm in console, with tyraels chest I'm just standing in every mechanic even on t12 mephisto

>>738722313
Good. Diablo 3 was the goat.

>>738719807
not really
still quantity vs quality affixes
set charms are like early d3 loot 2.0 where they might heel turn towards more and more stupid numbers like +65000% damage
bunch of simple qol shit they haven't bothered with since launch because they're retarded
currency bloat even worse now with cube

>>738723378
>helltide
Do whispers. Kill stuff and click on stuff to get cinders, use cinders to open chests
>warplans
Just queue up activities and go, worry about optimizing them after you figure out which ones you like
>what i do at max level
Warplans, season journey, look up where the uniques you want drop, and farm the bosses for them when you can. Play the highest difficulty you can kill stuff easily in. Make number go up.

>>738723554
When I did play Paladin in when it was released for pre-ordering, I was 100% unkillable and all content could be done by practically keeping still, it was pretty dumb.
Barbarian just feels like another version of that currently.
I'm still making a barbarian since I finished trying everything I wanted to mess with on Warlock.

>>738723682
tank you

>>738723709
There was only torment 4 at the time though, and paladin didnt push pit 150 like barb, sorcerer and spiritborn have all done so far. I don't count the chinaman necro since it's done with exploits. And yeah barb is fun.

>>738723854
Spiritborn was so broken it speed farmed 150 lol, like sub 1m clears

>>738723676
>more stupid numbers like +65000% damage
I already see ticks in the trillions from my ball lightning, I don't think they will ever need to do this.

My first char is paladin because he looks cool and I only just found out yesterday they nerfed him to the ground, zeal feels awful. I ended up having to resort to arbiter wings and it immediately does way more for way less effort

>>738724175
numbers can always go bigger

Seriously, I haven't seen Belial in days, probably over 100 keys by now. Am I just the most unlucky person ever or is he bugged? One of my uniques comes from Bartuc and fuck farming that shit.

>>738724203
reroll to barb or sorc
those have been
since d2
the best classes
their communites bitch a LOT if they get nerfed
and blizz devs watch streamers that exclusively play those classes

>>738725012
>bone spear nec gets good
>devs FREAK THE FUCK OUT and nerf it to oblivion (the shitty elder scrolls game)

>tired of PoE1
>PoE2 won't be out until mid-2027 probably
>D4 is shit
>LE cucked itself with MTX
>Diablo II is a solved game
the fuck do I play

>>738719807
kino

>>738727210
D4, obviously. It's the only good ARPG.

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>>738720652
The Infamous Blizzard Cycle

>>738727343
Play d4, remember to restart the game every other hour to avoid memory leak

>>738727481
Get more memory.

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unlike jeets paid to market d4 here every xpac release, I gave it a fair go
The game now looks like it shoould look like at premiere. Not after paying for basic game and then 2 xpacs. I Skipped VoH because of how dogshit it was. LoH now at least have some game loop in season 13. Yes it took them 12 seasons to create something many other arpg have from get go
copypasting from diablo 3 and other arpg is obvious, but at least they udnerstand what people expect when playing arpg instead of following retarded suits who want to make it live service cash shop
that being said, game without xpac is unplayable. More than half of systems, points and character power is locked behind paywall, despite their promise to have basic game be fully playable. You also have reduced loot because xpac loot doesn't get rerolled if you don't have VoH
new skill tree is a downgrade, not upgrade
endgame bosses like lilith and mephsito are badly designed. They still don't udnerstand that boss ina rpg should be either oneshotted if you build your minmax character, or have meaningful mechanics if you do it on less pwoerful character. What d4 does, is to have literal bullet hell with many isnta deaths. And yes, they are instadeaths, because I made a glitched defense that let's me afk naked in 150 rifts for hours, but it gets me isntakilled in t10 yet alone t12 mephisto. Game even lags straight up for 3 seconds when the oneshot hits the character with negative hp and defenses meaning it should be able to die no matter what
game has problem with visual clarity, spam on death effect, random oneshots from nowhere. To the point of people playing msotly barbs for selig build that let's you facetank majority of the game at t12
ama, the game is ok to play but AFTER they give you a discount. If you previously bought VoH, you're a retard, fuck you. IF you bought absic game, wait for discount. If you're new, don't buy it at all, ebcause it's blizzard, they're bound to fuck things up

>>738727513
The game has a memory leak since release

>>738727414
>Blizzard Cycle
Honeymoon phase isn't exclusively a Blizzard thing. Also when new stuff is shit it is pretty universally hated even with Blizzard. Hearthstone DH release, BFA, both SL patches after 9.0, first season update to D4. All absolutely hated.

>>738722008
Warlock is even worse than sorc when it comes to cisual clutter. I played Apocalypse warlock and its IMPOSSIBLE to see anything on my screen.

>>738727710
They had it solved at one point.

>>738719807
Diablo 4 is the best ARPG on the market.

>>738719989
Does that make poe a 2 button game?

>>738727910
Well its back now
>>738727210
Play d4 its fun then back to 0.5 poe2 brother

>>738727939
it's not, it's only got good enough the be part of arpg genre instead of overpriced lost ark copy

>>738727939
TRVKE

>>738725012
>Barb
>D2
>good
What the fuck am I reading (also Barb was mediocre as hell for most of D3)

>>738728430
? ww barb is top 1 rn its easy its cheap its OP

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I'm fucking confused, is Lilith dead or is she just banished to Hell until another nigga does some ambiguous ritual to let her out?

>>738719989
I must be missing something because even with my necromkinions Ingot to press all the buttons

>>738728556
Demons and Angels can’t ever fully die, by normal means at least (which is why the war between them is called the Eternal Conflict). In Demon’s case their soul is normally sent to a certain part of Hell where they are eventually reformed. However, at the start of the game Lilith’s soul got trapped in the Void, and it took Elias doing that crazy ass ritual to summon her out of it. She’s still “dead” for all of LoH, it’s just the blood link you two had mad it possible for her to communicate with you. When you stab her with her blood knife or whatever, it sent her back to the Void where started off as, but you also end up sending Mephisto there at the end so she’s happy at least

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SHIT QUEST

>>738719807
On sale, probably. it's pretty much just D3 again, but they make you play through the absolutely dogshit story right now so you can just wait for the next actual season and probably get it on discount+skip the humiliation ritual.

>>738719807
I never played vessel of hatred so I'm going through that now. Warlock is pretty cool. I haven't played D4 since release but I generally like it better than D3

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>>738728984
>blocks yer path
heh, nothin' personnel

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>playing Druid
>having fun as hell with Shred
>probably the closest thing you can get to flicker strike with the way you move through packs with it
>get the Shred unique
>damage literally does not increase
it's insane how little impact this shit has how does it even make it into the game

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I have one, what do i invest

t. New player

I still will not forgive them for the monetization shitfuckery, not to mention how they fucked up with exclusivity shit even during the fucking BETA
>Oh here's a special mount you carry over to the full game you can only get during one particular 2 day period if you beat the superboss which constantly glitches out when its low on health and doesn't respawn again for hours.

Of course the bigger issue is how they have tons of $30 outfits , mounts, and all kinds of other shit all over the place PLUS battle passes including premium ones that of course if you miss, you miss out on everything in them if not completed etc. Fuck all of that sideways. Maybe they've fixed something but last I checked it was a complete shitshow coming from the worst of the Blizz design. Lets not forget the intentional ugly female avatars and other shit too, but the monetization is really the thing that made me not want to bother with it after I tried it out near launch

>>738719894
They could at least fucking give people the goddamn Steam keys now that its on Steam.

>>738719807
nobody wants your wow-diablo-mishmash solo mmo garbage with a functioning brain.
fuck off shillerino

>>738729707
>Oh here's a special mount you carry over to the full game you can only get during one particular 2 day period if you beat the superboss which constantly glitches out when its low on health and doesn't respawn again for hours
This never happened. He made it up.

>>738729651
it doesn't matter because you quickly get most of them

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>>738728556
she's dead unless blizzard do another blizzard fanfic writting with SOMEHOW RETURNED
>>738728902
nope. If angel dies, crystal arc sends another to fill his place. That's why Tyrael was suspicious of Izual fate since no replacement ever came
Demon souls outside 7 evils do nto ressurect. It's because hell is made from corpse of gigantic hydra who fought "god". Both of them died, and 7 hydra heads became 4 lesser evils and 3 prime evils. God corpse crystalized into arc.
Lucon, son of mephisto gets killed and never comes back. many demons too. We don't lnwo how izual is getting back in d3 after getting killed. Butcher isn't the same demon, but a title specific breed of demons can get. Travincal council in d4 is just another "well we wont tell you how demonied humans can go back yet mephisto seethes about lucion being permadead"
>>738729793
seems liek you wasnt there with open beta and lvl 20 characters trying to kill lvl 30 worldboss

>>738719807
>i see ppl saying the expansion makes it so much better
Those are shills, you are listening to ads. You might be one yourself

>>738719807
Yes they fixed everything

>>738728556
Depends on what market research says. Answers pending.

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LoH is a good base to move the game in a more positive direction
They still need to add more content though, and make it so seasons eventually go into the core game
War Plans is a good centerfold to connect the content together
Fuck the Pit though, they need to finalize the Tower ranking shit with the release of SSF and then expand what the Pit can do even more, I'm tired of hallway maps, add remixed overworld sections as floors with events from previous seasons

Inter class balance again is all over the place with some of the classes like Paladin, Druid and Spiritborn

Reworking some Mythics is desperately needed, I mean look at this piece of shit, who would even use this over a BiS weapon you can craft on?

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>>738729948
1. It was a mount trophy, not a mount.
2. You got the same trophy during a second beta period, so it wasn't just 2 days.
3. It was piss easy. People were solo killing it. You're just bad.
Stay mad, hornlet.

>>738719894
Blizzard cinematics are always good. Them and the music department are the only consistently positive things at that studio.

>>738730074
>he paid for skin
opinion discarded

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>>738719807
it's fun to blast through for a week per season, it's basically a glorified cookie clicker now like d3
the expansion adds the cube and the war table, the former being the best addition by far that actually adds much needed item crafting + modifying, the latter being something to actually do content for and work towards
but that's literally the only two things a full paid expansion adds unless you care about some gay story
if you're bored go ahead, you'll get like 30 hours of fun out of it. the game is definitely a lot, lot better than launch

>>738728556
she is not a mortal and will always exist

>>738730347
>but that's literally the only two things a full paid expansion adds
and paladin and warlock class

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Why

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>Pay money for game
>Get FOMO filled battlepass slop with microtransactions

>>738730165
>Blizzard cinematics are always good.
I was about to mention the lazy shit in wow but maybe it's not in the hands of blizzard anymore

>>738730081
Yes thank you blizzdrone, you've got a little brown on your nose there or maybe its a whole turd. It was something that only spawned every 3 hours, during a beta that lasted only 2 days (and you couldn't get it during every beta, it was only present at the last 2 - each of them basically overnight), and glitched out. The fact that for the last few spawns people who were grinding shit up t For those who for whatever reason couldn't spend their entire weekend around the damn thing, it was a shitty thing to do and it would portend their approach to the battle passes FOMO, item mall rotating $30 outfits, mounts, and mount outfits atop it, and other shit. Fuck it all and fuck those defending it. Going to tell me its a wonderful RETURN TO FORM next and I should be thankful for the item mall / battle pass packages too? Fuck off.

>>738730520
I'm talking about their big cgi cinematics. Not the bullshit cutscenes in WoW.

they paywalled 1/4th of all the base game skill trees
no its not worth it

>>738730867
I've only just started but the non-CGI in-game cinematics in D4 seem pretty good so far. Not sure what WoW's fucking problem is.

>>738730848
Mad and bad.
Dilate

>>738730081
>muh horns
wow congrats for being at home when they did the second beta test
Let me know if you have the head of Zarghaal, which was an actual test of skill that you can’t get anymore

>>738730462
modern devs don't care about optimizing anymore. "just throw more hardware at it" is their mantra

I played d4 on launch to lvl 100 on hardcore on a steam deck with spotty wifi. It's the most optimized ARPG by far.

>>738719989
Such a shitty copout man Diablo always was a simple game when it came to APM wtf are /v/tards smoking??? enough with this boomer Copium bullshit already

>>738731878
yeach sure
>at launch
until someone opened his stash next to you LMAO

>>738719807
A Massive POE2 update is coming out soon.
D4 will become irrelevant.

>>738732125
thanks for beta testing paypiggy, let us know when the final free product drops

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>>738730245
Should I post my PoE supporter pack and loot box skins too?

>>738732187
apparently this is the final update before 1.0 update with everything and the game going free.
i mean yeah you're free to wait it out anon, didn't say you had to play POE2 now.

>>738719989
>D4 is a 1 button game and the expansion hasn't changed that. If you want to run through a Diablo game where all you have to do to win is press 1 button then you'll like it.
Increase the difficulty, retard.
The "normal" difficulty is literally for disabled people.
People without arms or blind people.

>>738732215
only if you own goblin trouppe
my point is, you have battlepass on top of overpriced skins for a game you bought and need to buy xpac each year
poe is free, for the price of average game you can get critical strashes. For half of d4 single skin price you get supporter pack with various shit on top of your skin that usually have 2-3 modes like paladin one
even in cash shit, poe got it better

battlepass shit is wild, I just started because it was humble choice and I saw some "something or other of Azeroth" currency drop and it turns you have to opt in to a paid battlepass just to spend the currency, like lmao what the fuck

>>738732378
does Tencent pay you in poop per post?

>>738732503
You can get some unlocks without having to buy it, but it was mostly trash. Even the paid stuff looked stupid I don't know why anyone would buy it.

>>738732503
half of it is free

>>738719894
Surprised that humble actually has a decent bundle for once.

>>738719989
Keeping my uptime on unstable currents is actually not trivial since I redid my gear to have 100% crit and fucked my CDR.

>>738732374
I remember when Kripparrian started whining in one vid about D4 for not allowing him to play one handed as easy.
That's your average arpgfag who hit that sky high skill ceiling lmao

>>738732378
>poe is free
You can tell because it respects your time like a korean ftp mmorpg

>>738733603
How so? They make currencies unwieldy to encourage you to buy tabs, but it's pretty easy to get to ubers SSF and very easy with even a tiny bit of trading if you know what you're doing.

how good is necro
how easy is it to level

compared to ww barb

>>738733969
WW barb is one of the most overpowered builds Blizzard has ever allowed in any Diablo. Everything is pathetic next to WW Barb except maybe ball lightning sorc which has the damage but not as much survivability.

>>738721349
Not being able to share war plans is a bit silly

>>738733940
>level a starter
>farm maps
>only find vendor uniques
>farm currency
>nothing drops
>sift through hundreds of worthless uniques
>sell some of them for 10-50c
>buy gear
>level second character
>farm forever for boss keys
>oh, some streamer is playing the same build, everybody costs 10 ex at least
>quit
Haven't played in a while, but unless you juiced your maps to hell and back you'd be mapping a while. Though that was mostly because the economy in that game is dogshit and full of bots.

>>738719807
Anyone telling you that is either a marketer or someone deep in post-purchase rationalization. Blizzard charges $50 for a "we fixed it for task this time, we promise" patch on an annual basis. It'll never be good, it's deliberately designed to make to you falsely believe it can be good if you just spend a little bit more money.

>>738734060
damn
so barb

>>738719807
I'll buy it if the whole bundle is like $25 tops

>>738734412
you sound like you're stuck in war for altas and one mroe xpac, it's no longer the case. You cna juice yourself with a lot fo options, but I'm not a blizzdrone and I'll not shit up d4 thread with poe, you can ask on poeg/ what changed since then

>>738737043
Nah, they just added more useless crap and the meta got even staler.
D4 is better than poe at this point.

>>738737187
>meta is better
you again joking . Meta is literal bugged rogue, arc sorc(again) and immortal selig ww barb to do t12 bossing because of stacked oneshots. They nerfed paladin too hard and warlock effect vomit prevents him from being able to clear lilith/mephisto
what d4 did better, was endgame farming where otuside global uniques, msot of them are linked specific boss you can target farm, and what's excellent, you spend your key AFTER defeating boss so nothign gets wasted from dying to bugged butcher having 4x hp than normal
poe expects you to read and learn various retarded shit before you can actually play the game on top of ever expanding slot machine crafting. I like poe where i can paly it for 2-3 weeks before being done. Meanwhile diablo is 1 week top, but poe is kind fo focused on more ahrdcore audience, while d4 is casual with some retarded boss design options

>>738734060
Does Barb have any cool/fun builds or is it just WW only
I’ve played WW for like two fucking decades now I want to do something other then WW

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>>738734412
>costs 10 ex

>>738738036
>Does Barb have any cool/fun builds or is it just WW only
WW

PoE 2 update out soon and its much better. I uninstalled D4 long ago, the best thing for D4 is wait for like 5 years and buy it otherwise you will have to pay DLC every time or be paywalled also its a shitgame

Is Juggernaut bad? I heard paladin was nerfed or something? idk

>>738738036
There was a fun shout barb ancients build that I saw on Japanese twitter. Lots of very powerful ancients builds now I think

>>738738036
Barb is the WW class. Just play something else if youre so bored of it and hate it. There are like 8 classes you whiney nigger.

What is this rogue execution bug I hear about that lets you do pits in 20s?

>>738737692
I cleared mephisto with my apocalypse warlock. Its pretty easy when i can vomit trillions of dmg per apocalypse. My problem with warlock is pushing ladder with all the screen cluttering its skills generates. I die a lot to some invisible projectile because its IMPOSSIBLE to see anything. The game needs an option to control the transparency of your own abilities.

>>738738036
Barb apparently has a good minion build too.

>>738734412
Copying e-celebs builds ( Especially fubgun builds ) is the dumbest shit you can do in a trade league. Everything the build they're using will be expensive as fuck. The smart choice is to use a generic good starter build and craft/sell items that their build use to make bank and then when you're rich you make your main character.

>>738740589
How do you avoid getting clapped at the start of phase 3? Do you just avoid the stun to not get your skills stolen and nuke him? I've killed him but subsequent clears feel so inconsistent unless I change out a rune to turn my dodge into teleport to avoid the hands. I always get body blocked by him or a slow puddle spawns under me if I'm not running the teleport rune.

>>738740589
and that;s my point, fight itself is so bad that you need to chese it with absurd dmg
>>738741496
practice on lower tiers. You can outrun the red wave that steals your abilities. When the cutscene starts, place your cursos at the bottom to start running/teleporting away the moment you can

>no dedicated bow skills only ranged build
sucks

i played rogue melee piano build on launch

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Is there skimpy sex armor in this game yet??? NOT buying until I can dress my barbgirl like a total fucking slut

>>738741496
You can avoid losing your skills at the start of p3 by just running away from the center.

>>738730074
>positive direction
>needs more content
>seasonal content needs more work
>balance is bad

So why the fuck are you retards recommending this fucking game then? Who the fuck is paying you?

>>738719807
>Activision Blizzard game
>good
lol
lmao
rofl

Gimme a ww barb leveling to endgame guide

>>738742349
Oh, I was running away then teleporting in. I guess I can just keep my teleport then dodge both claps easily. I have enough damage to kill him before he does anything else and p1 and 2 are auto pilot. I wouldn't hate it so much but the fucking cutscenes are making me want to kill myself.

>>738742834
Check Maxroll

D4 won.

whose the d4 autist on youtube to watch

>>738742092
there's plenty

WHY CAN I NOT CHANGE MY GENDER INGAME

I WANT CUTE FEMBARB

>>738719989
Its...an arpg? Its made to check builds not be dark souls. Maybe play POE 2 or all the other games that fester the genre at this point in time? They cater to your need to roll around.

>>738742092
Catch 22 - the skimp armor exists but all of the female models have deliberately ugly shaped bodies. The weight concavum disorder abs on the female warlocks makes me want to puke.

>>738744297
Had a shameful fap to female warlock earlier

>>738743752
wudijo

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>>738743980
I'm buying

>>738744297
I can adapt

>all the characters have explicitly black hairstyles
>almost no class / gender combos actually have black faces
I just wanna make a black queen but every option comes out as Rachel Dolezal

>>738727210
>the fuck do I play
Marvel Heroes on private servers.

Is it better to do campaign on normal then jump into whatever comes then

>>738745937
could probably do it on hard with no issues. expert with some potion use and not being retarded with skills

>>738746287
Yeah but should i?

>>738746389
it doesn't really matter because the campaigns constantly pull you out of gameplay

>>738746389
Depends entirely on how good you are at ARPGs and what class you are. Keep in mind that you can literally change the difficulty at any point by just visiting the big statues in major cities, so just try things out.

>>738746513
>>738746495
So far hard isnt hard as barb ww but im only lvl 40

is this shit worth in the humble bundle without the expansions?

>>738748804
do you have SMT already? if not yeah its worth a shot

>>738732378
Average D4 skin is like 20$ - 28$
Basic supporter packs are 30$ + equivalent currency but the issue with those is the cosmetics are usually just fluff
60$ packs are where the bulk of the value is since you get the skin, more fluff and equivalent gacha bux

My biggest complaint is how expensive they are outside of sales or when the packs are available, not mentioning the loot box skins since that's literally gachapon gambling

>>738738653
Juggernaut archetypes is my preferred way to play Paladin since the previous season
Both Clash basic skill focused Paladin or Shield Bash are my preferred option.
There's also Advance as a Juggernaut skill for built in Mobility which helps trigger runes more easily
No thorns shenanigans in either of these builds so you can dip into Vulnerable, crit damage and physical damage scaling as you like

Protip for basic focused builds, you can use the Auradin skill that passively damages enemies to stack the mark and pop with basic skills, and your Mercenary can also radiate the aura.
To make it even stronger, Ceh rune wolves also count as allies and radiate the aura letting you mark entire screens of enemies over and over

having a blast in D4 so glad ARPGs are back

the game is fundamentally no different than it was before this xpac. the classes are all still the same and follow the same design philosophy, itemization and QoL are just better. the endgame is still the exact same, classes still play the exact same, you're still doing the exact same things you did on day 1 of 1.0 endgame. it's a thoroughly boring and uninspired game. if you're a mega casual ARPG gamer that wants to play 1 hour per week you'll probably enjoy it, but otherwise you're just forcing yourself to play a game inferior to its competition in every way for no real reason

retard

>>738719807
I haven't played since the day the first season released. Dropped it because I didn't want to have to make a new character to do the new content. Do I still have to make a new one to experience any of the new content or new story since the game came out?

>>738719807
>i see ppl saying the expansion makes it so much better
those are ads

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>>738753140
Not for the story
There's some free rewards from doing seasonal activities like titles and pets, and the battlepass has free tiers you can claim, but those are only available for seasonal characters
You can rush the story with your already made characters and then just skip campaign on a new seasonal if you want the season rewards

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>running around on my hellhound, exploding lava everywhere
kinda fun

>>738741934
Isn’t Penetrating Shot the best Rogue build by far

>>738730867
The WoW CGI cinematic with the amputee lesbian nigger was dogshit. The tranny dagons expansion cinematic was also pure garbage.

poe2 keeps giving me network stutters and DCs, does D4 have the same issue? I know it's not my hardware. No other multiplayer game has ever given me issues like this.

>>738720536
Wasn't bllizzard supposed to be godlike at optimizing games?

>>738719807
>is diablo 4 worth it now?
hi I just finished up about 120 hours of diablo 4 expansion, unlike the retarded faggots in this thread, let me tell you about it
If you want an ARPG focused on speed running / racing as an endgame activity, and not super autistic 'map farming' strategies, its pretty good
if you want a 'PoE-lite' with autistic crafting/customizable endgame, it will not scratch that itch

basically every class has a small handful of builds that function, and everything else is trash, most of the builds focus around:
1 movement button
2 kill everything button
some classes have:
1 move and kill everything button at the same time

ultimately everything revolves around moving as fast as possible down a hallway and beating the timer for the level of content you are doing
the content scales up to what is essentially 'hell' mode as you may remember it from diablo 2, pinnacle difficulty for the overworld (torment 12), and every class can achieve that and 'blast it' with the best gear
true endgame beyond that point is super optimizing every stat, and every drop, to push the "Pit" beyond the torment 12 world scaling level to achieve a pointless spot on a global leaderboard dominated by chinese exploiters, literal cheaters, and broken/overtuned class abilities

its a farming/loot hunting/key gathering gameplay cycle where you collect increasingly powerful version of stuff you already have, to create exponentially scaling higher numbers, to beat exponentially higher numbers of content.....

but the content is exactly the same, the only thing that changes are the numbers

you will be in torment 12 and doing 22billion damage a hit
then you move up to pit level 120 (torment 14/15 equivilent?) and having to do 22 trillion damage a hit, but the actual gameplay is exactly the same with zero differences or permutations that matter

>>738722313
you never played the game man, just don't comment if you don't know okay? the rune system in D4 is fucking pitiful and doesn't resemble D2 at all, first of all you can switch out the runes, second of all they don't create rune word equipment

so just like....stop

>Mobs scale with you no matter what
Why do they do this? It just makes getting upgrades feel less good.

>>738758663
>I heard there was crafting
there is a bit of rerolling and some strategies for protecting valuable greater affixes
mostly its just gambling, like the type of currency you use to put a 2nd affix on a necklace to increase your power
you find a good necklace, then spam this rare currency at it to try and turn it from good into godlike
so its pretty good if you like a bit of slot machine gambling like that

>what about uniques
yes they are build changing/enabling
however each class only has 1 or 2 good ones, so everyone uses those and ignores the rest which are sub-optimal

>I heard there were 'dailies'
you mean the warplan board, which is a semi-guided plan for the activities in the game, basically you select a handful of things you prefer to do, then you do them as fast as possible, and you get a loot reward while 'leveling up' the activity to customize it how you want

>why play this
if you want mindless gottagofast hallway type maps instead of sprawling ??? poe/last epoch type things, it's probably the superior experience

>the class balance sucks
yes it does, but it also takes literally 20 minutes max to get a character from level 1 to 70 (max level) and a couple more hours to get him spun up to T12 content, so you can play whatever class you want

Also while you are in town you will be subjected to absolutely abhorrent chinese-style huge glowing spiky MTX beasts that do not match the game at all.

There is no offline mode.

Despite that, I still played it for 120 hours and had a good time. It's not perfect by any means, but its finally a feature complete game.

>>738719989
>If you want to run through a Diablo game where all you have to do to win is press 1 button then you'll like it

That's literally D2, and people love it. Min-max one skill, and equip items that increase said skill.

>>738744060
>WHY CAN I NOT CHANGE MY GENDER
Fuck off tranny

>>738743752
Rob

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>>738719807
Can't speak for end game, but the story and gameplay on Torment difficulty are kino

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I'm enjoying my SEXcromancer

>>738742092
Yeah

>>738738036
Make a bleed/fire barb and get the 2h polearm mythic unique Shattered Vow that instantly kills anything when you max their HP bar with DoTs

i'm kinda having fun just wandering around as my neutral good male human paladin doing sidequests and exploring

Friendly reminder that elemental resistances literally did nothing, as in did not function at all, for an entire year pre-launch, myself and other alpha testers told Blizz, and it still took them multiple seasons AFTER launch to get them working.

Everyone is incompetent or fucks up sometimes, but that's on a level I just can't get past. D4 is such an unexceptional game in every way. Maybe if I wasn't a huge ARPG fan already I'd enjoy it, but it has nothing going for it and things like that ruin my perception of it. I could never imagine giving a company that incompetent my money.

>>738738036
HOTA, minions, and Upheaval tend to get big sometimes. Every season, the top builds change.

>>738763828
Friendly reminder nobody cares and nobody will ever play PoO, Ramsmeshjivpreetarti.