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Why do Asianic races suck at making strategy or RPG systems?

West tries to emulate real world by assigning hit chances by using complex calculations involving terrain, distance, stats, vision among other things. Then damage is assigned in equally complex manner after calculating for armour, armour penetration etc etc... Meanwhile Japs just assign massive HP pools, use static hit chance so position doesn't matter and people eat that slop up
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>>738719892
Is this banner? Asians need constant bling bling. Hence they have crafting systems where you collect dust do forge xcalipur.
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Japs cant create any games except their subhumanic gacha tit slop. Water is wet.
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>>738719892
Have you ever considered that maybe people don't care about unnecessarily complex systems and just wanna have fun?
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>>738720056
This. The West has legendary games from the Total War series and other games that is yet unbeaten by nippons. They also do history much better than nips.
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>>738720056
op's pic is from a game that is neither japanese nor a gacha thougheverbeit you retard
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>>738719892
I just want another Ogre Battle style game and no Fire Emblem is not the same. Also, that last Fire Emblem game was complete ass, what were they even thinking?
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>>738719892
Jap games use terrain, weapon proficiency, weapon type advantage, support bonuses, directional facing, unit specific terrain bonus, weapon specific terrain bonus, and leadership bonus, to calculate hit rate.

They just usually don't make the game difficult enough to necessitate figuring all that out.
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>>738720247
This is just the daily Soijak Party anti JP raid thread
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>>738720324
>what were they even thinking?
Giving people amazing gameplay?
>bbbbbut I want braindead casual trash for mobile gamers and vtubers like tactical ogre
Well, people who play fire emblem(outside of 3H) prefer challenges, dunno why you decided to try it
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>>738720426
Name one, you can't.

>>738720456
I said asianic because the problem isn't Japanese. Chinks do it too
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>>738720553
Tactics ogre reborn lol
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>>738720629
Nah, you're always hitting in that game
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>>738720684
You haven't played the game. Always hitting might he true for same level units.
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>>738720553
Fire Emblem uses terrain bonuses, supports bonuses, weapon proficiency and advantage

Final Fantasy Tactics uses terrain, directional facing, morale bonuses

Super Robot Wars uses terrain bonuses, unit and weapon specific terrain bonuses, support bonuses, morale bonuses, and leadership bonus.
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>>738719892
Triangle Strategy and Fire Emblem are pretty babby-tier but at least you can hit every time. That's the one bonus.
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>>738721345
That's xcom2?
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>>738721474
Obviously?
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>>738721493
Never played it. Looks fantastic.
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all the best tactical games are japanese though. Name a western game with better maps or tactical debth than Thracia 776 or Advance Wars
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>>738721571
I liked it but I had to savescum a lot. Ironmanners are nuts for playing a game with 1 save file where you routinely miss 90% accurate shots.
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>>738722609
Neat but I've seen too many shitty xcom clones to care.
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>>738722501
>>738722609
Sauce
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>>738721592
Literally just pick any John Tiller game and there are many.
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>>738722749
>>738723328
mars tactics
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>>738721592
/thread

It's legit embarrassing that the entire tactics genre is inferior to a series of second party Nintendo games like the Wars series, which are too hardcore for most of /vst/.
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Good evening sirs.
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>>738721592
>Advance Wars
battle isle
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>>738719892
Play Reverse Collapse
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>>738722749
It's JA clone
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>>738719892
>West tries to emulate real world by assigning hit chances by using complex calculations involving terrain, distance, stats, vision among other things. Then damage is assigned in equally complex manner after calculating for armour, armour penetration etc etc
And then fucks it all up by making adding party system instead of letting you play solo.
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>>738719892
Every tactical strategy breaks down when you bump a sufficiently large number against a pathetically lower number.
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>>738721592
it sucks, if i don't play nip shit my options are jagged alliance and old xcom
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>>738721592
>glorified chess
Even in this category Panzer General mogs this shit.
Now show me analog of CMO or at least Flashpoint Campaigns
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>>738719892
Banner of the maid was pretty good chink game.
Pretty shame they don't wanted use authentic french dub.
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>>738719995
Collecting craft materials and item's to get better equipment as based as fuck.
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>>738725798
It's tedious drudge work and almost never necessary.
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>>738720324
They had a chance to polish it to the perfection.
They done nothing just upscaled it.

Fuck
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>>738719892
Maybe next time post an image of a Japanese game.
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>>738725798
bro doesn't know i've been collecting scrap to improve my weapons in JA3
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>>738725856
in first world countries we call that gameplay.
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>>738720501
Engage was piss easy.
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>>738726075
with or without dlcs?
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>>738726014
What's the point if the game gives the best armour, weapon, healing item from the start?
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>>738719892
Game name?
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>Games simpler than the games I like = causal trash
>Games more complex than the games I like = autistic no fun spreadsheet simulator
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>>738726428
>>738725732
Blind faggot
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>>738726457
Yes
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>>738720324
And you skipped Triangle Strategy because...?
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>>738723395
Is this XCOM Lethal Company?
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>>738720324
Your Unicorn Overlord, ma'am?
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>>738727565
no?
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>>738725798
Was a nightmare in other versions. Items there are reasonable, like baldur and baobao and other fantasy objects that are derived form food, like ananana wood.
>>738721847
Main reason I don't touch it
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>>738727715
>Unicorn Overlord
NTA but its disappointing game, no matter how cute girls are
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>>738725910
Could've been much better, still an acceptable version. There's ov, too. If financing wouldn't be so tedious, I'd start today making a good trpg.
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>>738726457
This, but unironically
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>>738727715
>Isekai harem garbage with braindead arcade combat
no
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Is crimson or returner tactics any good?
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>>738719892
Nice booba
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>>738719892
Simple, it's because of anime. Anime is meant to be a medium for escapism and things not based on reality. Therefore you need to make every gameplay feature and calculation an abstraction as much as possible. Because reality is too boring.
Anime has and always will be a mistake.
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What gaym btw
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Personally I find FF: Tactic-likes and Ogre-likes quite fun but OP is right. So far, Japanese strategy and tactic games are way WAY behind Westerners in every aspect. I think the Daisenryaku series is one of the most complex and in-depth Japanese strategy titles but even that series is just copy-pasted from western wargames and has even more simplistic gameplay compared to its western counterpart. Don't get me started on Advance War and Fire Emblem, those are way below toddler-tier and has already been surpassed since the time of their release.

Still, I would recommend playing some unique game series from Japan, namely Brigandine, Langrisser and Front Mission.
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>>738719892
Post FE12 A Rank Lunatic Clear
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>>738730349
Which western trpg or srpg are superior to the Japanese ones you mentioned
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>>738730349
>Don't get me started on Advance War and Fire Emblem, those are way below toddler-tier and has already been surpassed since the time of their release.
lol
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>>738731364
>western trpg or srpg
Do you mean something similar to FF:Tactics and Ogres? There's very few desu from the western side but strategy/tactic games with RPG elements? There's tons of them, off the top of my head, the games that are better are:
>Dawn of War 2
>Age of Wonders series
>HoMM series
>Warlord Battlecry series
>Warbanner
>Battle of Wesnoth
>Red Solstice 2
>Battle Brothers
>Stolen Realm
>Cyber Knight: Flashpoint
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Can you beat Jagged Alliance with 6 mercs? I don't want more than 1 squad but I think the game wants you to have 100 mercs.
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>>738732953
my impression so far is that it is more forgiving than xcom or darkest dungeon on personnel
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>>738732485
Those are strategy games imo, as you correctly stated. That's true, Asians can't do that, despite Asians leading in sc2. Srpg or trpg like to or fft there is only fellseal and worse on the westerners side. Sadly so.
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>>738732953
I beat the game with one team and no weapon crafting. It's doable. Should have multiple saves though.
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>>738732953
Probably, just use machine guns because the AI is retarded



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