It's not the "win against every other universe" button you think it is
Turboblaze is better
it's pretty good when everyone else crutches on their broken abilities
>>738721978why is Greymon there
>universe?
>>738722102Probably because of >It's not the "win against every other universe" button you think it isI did see a few memes about Pokemon beating the shit out of characters from other stuff because they have mold breakerLike picrel
>>738721978It just lets you use moves and not have to worry about shit turning your best attack off. There are certainly much worse abilities.
>>738723287Why is it always the JJK and Dragonball people who get insanely butthurt when their guy can't beat another guy?
>>738724037In the case of Dragon Ball it's because power levels are a literal real thing that exists in universe, even if Toriyama later came to regret it and moved away from them.
>Arceus: … Red … Did we win?>Red: That was Agunon…
>>738724196I'll never get this. They were introduced specifically to show that they don't mean shit and are always wrong. And Kinnikuman and Saint Seiya had them before Dragonball did as well and their fans aren't as autistic about them.
>>738724376That's probably the source of Toriyamas subsequent regret.
>>738724376They aren't autistic about it because they don't exist
>>738721978Yes! .... YES!
Making power scalers seethe is always good. What a retarded thing to jack off to
>>738724376That's immediately forgotten after the Raditz fight though before the real number autism even starts. After that the bigger number always wins and the only twist is that the good guys can boost theirs while the bad guys are static. Lower power level beating higher by fighting smart never happens after the special beam cannon combo, unless you count Vegeta getting jumped over and over (after soundly beating lower-number Goku) until he goes down from death by a thousand cuts.
>>738721978The joke is it bypasses hax characters like Sans and JJK Man. It doesn't land if it's a statstick character who's strong because he can punch planetsOP has to be ESL if he didn't understand this
>>738721978Mold Breaker does nothing against offensive abilities, natural immunites, or raw statsCould Haxorus beat Superman? No, he is still getting outsped and flinged away Gay Bowser style
>>738724860They don't matter in the sense that a character can just arbirtarily pull a bigger nmber out of his ass. Form 3 Frieza was the last time they were used anyway.
>>738725056Let's see the calcs on +2 outrage vs superman
>>738725171All in favor in claiming Dragon is a magical type? I put forward that Superman gets oneshotted because he's a human when it comes to magic.
First Platinum playthrough, r8 my team>Empoleon>Rapidash>Garchomp>Staraptor>Scizor>Toxicroak
>>738725270Dragons job to magic in Pokemon.
>>738725270haxorus is from Gen 5 where outrage is a physical move
>>738721978>BREAKS THE MOLDWhat the fuck does that means?
>>738725524he removes the fluffy part of French cheese before eating it
>>738725524we have google for people like you
>>738721978Fuck off Death Battle autist.
>>738725582But that's the best part... Haxorus truly deserves its shitmon status.
>>738724037To be fair, Goku easily wins this. Saiyan children can take down dinosaurs with brute strength alone.
>>738725524Defensive abilities don't protect you from attacks of pokemon with that ability.for example, a Gengar with levitate will receive super effective damage against an Earthquake from Haxorus.
>>738724037JJK because they can't stop sucking Gojo's dick. DB people because every other fanbase bothers them with >LMAO MY KPOP IDOL NIGGERMAN CAN BEAT GOKU WITH HIS SPECIAL ABILITIES
>>738725659>a Gengar with levitate will receive super effective damage against an EarthqNot with the Choice Specs Shadow Ball OHKO. BAM.
Can anyone explain to me how Greymon, not Metalgreymon, not Wargreymon, not Omnimon, not Fuckyouiwinmon, just regular ass Greymon is some sort of reality warping being entity? He's just a big dinosaur that shoots fireballs out his mouth. Was his wiki page mixed up with Godzilla's for a day?
>>738725867sash
ATTENTION GOKUKEKSGoku also has wacky toonforce abilities so he can keep pace with anyone who tries toon logic with him
>>738726001I think the comic was made by a drooling retard that didn't know the joke was Mold Breaker fucking with "I Win" abilities
>>738726001its the best charizard analogue digifags have because everything else is either anime girls or giant cyborgs covered in guns
>>738726056Iirc only Kid Goku pulled stunts like that.Going by vsfaggotry logic, Kid Goku could catch by surprise and defeat his later versions.
>>738725771In my experience it's the Dagonfags who come in every time with Goku solos lol. I've never seen as much butthurt as the time when some guys on the internet said that Goku would lose to Superman.
>>738726464Tell that to the invincible fanbase who won't fucking stop comparing viltrumites to Saiyans.
>>738724037DB (Particularly Z and Super) have points where the characters basically break logic in how strong they can get, because it's ultimately an anime about good dudes punching evil dudes and the details didn't really matter too much to Toriyama.Many new animes bend over backwards to justify or explain why their characters (usually just the protags, fuckin' isekais) have super special unique powers. This has led to many fans of these newer animes trying to explain how their character is unique and special enough to beat Goku, and most of the time the response from DB fans is just "Lol nah".That said Yujiro Hanma beats Goku
>>738726368Adult Goku still has it sometimes.
>Thread softlocked itself in Goku power scaling mode
>>738726464The Superman fight was a fair matchup and I think most people who know about powerscaling agreed with the outcome. But it becomes unbearable when people who are clearly unfamiliar with these comparisons and constantly screech "LOL BUT [Character] IS STRONGER BECAUSE HE HAS [Ability that every main DB character has long surpassed]. REKT XD"The most notorious case of this has been Gojo dickriders as the other anon stated.
>>738726056>>738726368>Kid Goku Catches Bugs and then laughs at his jokes>Teen GokuCatches Bugs, says he's really hungry, then Bugs gets him with a slapstick gag (Goku laughs at it too)>Adult GokuFails to catch Bugs, has a fun time trying though
>>738726861They are very much saiyans in terms of society. They're a whole lot weaker though and can't just pull a power boost out of nowhere whenever they need to.
i want to see if theres a pokemon that relies on fear to hurt another character
>>738727019it's funny because it started with an anon saying DBfags are mentally ill. It's like a self fullfilling prophecy.
>>738727446FEAR Ratatta is a thing and would destroy most anime characters.
>>738724037>why does [massive fanbase] have a couple people who will react to prodding
>>738727446we got darkrai for that I guess
>>738725524He's a shooting star.
>>738726056Nope, it proved the opposite when he couldn't win against Arale due to the later actually having fourth wall cartoon powers.
>>738727019>>738727471lmao and here i was thinking in examples of goku using toon force as an adult. I AM mentally ill.
Has there ever been a scenario where a speedster character is suddenly in a "turn based" fight and all of their speed is suddenly useless because they only get one action instead of quintillion?
>>738728309i want to say yakuza 7 or 8 but then they gain evasion to compensate
>>738726056Toon force is overrated if you ask me.You always hear about how they pick up mountains to slam them on the head of a guy but you never hear them bring up stuff like>shove a shotgun in a hole to shoot someone>shotgun barrel does a 180° and shoots you in the face insteadOr>swing at guy>miss and hit your own shadow or a passerby that's gonna give you an absolute whoopingAnd>hit someone>your arm shatters into pieces of glass then the rest of your body along with it
>>738726105This isn't even the first thread about Greymon powerscaling this week
>>738723287post more pokemon btfo animekeks
>>738726002Yeah?
>>738723287>Bypassing 1 (one) ability turns a character into a dying ant
>>738732229I'd watch her get fucked by haxorus
>>738733476I don't it would feel lust for her. She's a mammal and he's a reptile.
For me, it's Eastern Wizards.
>so there's this guy.... they call him Mr.MoldBreaker, heard he's pretty strong....