She's talking about you.
That's not funny. I'd commit suicide in public if that happened to me.
>>738746502Whats the over/under "she" review bombed the wizard game?
>target audience: the handful of retarded cunts and troons who I am absolutely convinced are the vast worldwide majority of gamers and will never ever relinquish that opinion despite all mounting proof otherwise
I bet there were a lot of creators making their passion projects in Sodom and Gomorrah too
>>738746502>why am I not immune to criticism :(
>>738746703Well you are just the vocal minority otherwise this wouldn't keep happening.
>>738746502So a game being made with a certain target audience in mind instead of including everyone is ok when they do it?
>>738746502Name one game that this has happened to
>>738746502Harass game developers (preferably indie devs) to suicide.
>>738746502or women in the gaming and film industries
>Make games for a niche audience>Surprised when only a niche audience embraces itI'm not upset when fags make faggy games, just baffled when they're so insistent that non-fags should support it too. Be happy with your niche faggot audience, make and consume all the faggotry you want.
>>738746502Name one gameHardmode: no dustborn
>>738746502Genuinely, what are some examples?
>>738746885Dustborn
>>738746870funny how that works huhnow it's wrong for developers to hear complaints from people who were never going to play the game
Review bombing is only okay if it id s game I dont like.
people who were never going to buy your game even talking about it is better than nothing.that's how these people operate and why there are unending threads about some dogshit game only a few hundred people played at best.
>>738746797the "criticism" in this case are gamers giving it zero stars for not having a ball and a gun in it
>>738746579this tbqh
>>738746965Anita's game
>>738746502>how come OUR reviewbombs aren't working??? we wasted 1 billie on these 10/10s for nothing???is what they're saying.
>>738746502Hey, that sounds like trannies and women crying about sexy vidya armor.
>>738746502>platforms have to actually buy your game to leave a review>the alternative is "user scores" on places like metacriticThe first still has it flaws, especially when it comes to 0.1 hour meme reviews. The other is just deeply flawed by retardation, fanboyism and ""professional"" journalists ultimately being paid shills trying to survive in an industry that no longer needs them, with games taking longer to beat and said journalists being casual gamers that failed at getting better journalist jobs.
>>738746502If your studio goes under due to "reviewbombing" then your game simple just wasn't good in the first place.
>>738746502Japanese companies that refuse to port games to the west..
>>738747008Dustborn is at 71 percent on steam. There is no chud review bombing
>>738747008Dustborn was funded by the cuck government islamic shithole it was made in. It lost literally $0 because taxpayers bankrolled it
>>738746870always has been, because they are your moral superiors and have the right to chase you out of any space you try to make for yourself
>>738746502Making a game for 15 people is kind of a silly business practice no?
>>738746502Faggot OP
>>738746502>Muh review bombMaybe your shit sucks
>>738746502But I didn't do anything
>>738746579fpbp
>>738747248Just say no, simp.
>>738747008...the game that not even negatively reviewed? bold choice
>>738746502Shouldn't have made it woke then.
>>738746502Tough shit. Chud review bombs are the natural countermeasure to paid shill reviews from game journo websites like IGN.
>make a dogshit game>people hate it>YEAH WELL YOU WERENT THE TARGET AUDIENCE OUR GAME WAS A 10/10 TO FOR THEM
>>738746502Correct. Time for you and yours to wrap it up, fuck off and attempt to subvert and ruin a different hobby. The juice isn't worth the squeeze here.
>>738747008Why would any chud reviewbomb campaign dissuade the antifatranny crowd the game was made for? If anything that would have made them want to buy it more.
But I was told mocking gay shit didn't do anything and I was powerless?
>>738747312>say no>get sued into bankruptcy for excluding them>say yes>get sued into bankruptcy for stealing them from their designated safe spacesin the real world there are no winning moves
And she can't do shit about itGet bodied lesbo
>>738747343asmongold should have sponsored it so that you'll praise it
>>738747564Would love to see woke devs attempt to bribe assmongler to not shit on their games.
>>738747546Say no anyway because it's funny
>>738746502>buy game>leave 1/10 review because the game sucked>instantly kill studioI'd buy a PS5 and instantly kill Sony's studios and Rockstar not gonna lie
>>738747564Asmongloid has plenty of shit takes.
Devs that can't handle the backlash truly were ngmi anyway. I mean they can just turn their computer and mobile phone off and go outside.
>>738747734Don't you guys have cell phones
>>738746502You, maybe. Not me.
>>738746502Doesn't the Steam algo filter out or somehow treat separately reviews from purchases that were refunded?
>>738746502>chuds are both irrelevant and not worthy of being a targeted demographic and at the same time the deciding factor if a game succeeds or flopsnothing ever makes sesne with leftie. they lie more then then breath air
>>738746502>Gets criticized once>Fucking dies instantly
>>738747546LMAO they actually tried that?So listen.I worked for the BSA as a camp counselor during the summer the BSA announced they were letting girls in officially (because troops would have the odd girl in sometimes and nobody gave a shit)Word came down the grapevine that the head of the girlscouts actually called up the head of the BSA to demand he immediately retract that decision.Full on melty.The girl scouts became a for-profit cookie company decades ago.The actual PEOPLE in the girl scouts had long since chaffed at this and tried to hold onto the old tradition of actual scouting and outdoors shit as best they could, tagging along to certain BSA events like the klondike sled races.The Girls Scouts head bitch was worried because she knew they would happily jump ship.And she would lose out on cookie sales.
>>738747815Fuck, you mean, does steams algorithm separate reviews from legit purchases and ones that have been refunded. No, you can buy a game, and refund it after just launching it. A lot of those reviews are from trolls just doing that.
>>738746502that doesn't sound "funny" at all, sis
>>738746502>oh no, I've made the audience for my my game so narrow that no one will buy it...>I know, i'll blame those filthy chuds and say it's a review bombing campaign>no one will ever know!
>>738746502>passion project>studio can be canned due to reviewspick one.
>>738747106>gamers
>>738748065>purchase game>its shit>refund it>leave bad review>some random loser cries "wahhhh that doesn't count your purchase isn't legitimate"
>>738748065>you don't get to review if you exercise your consumer rights :(lmao, get fucked.
bros....
>>738748065I refuse to believe they wouldn't have some kind of detection if people managed organize that kind of trolling en masse. And if it was just a few, then that would obviously not constitute "bombing", nor should it be enough to doom your studio.
>>738747143Anita Sarkeesian Tribute Song - GamerGate The Musicalhttps://youtu.be/i_vCbge0Djc
>>738748041Why not just rename the organization to scouts of america?
Its only counts as a passion project if its being made by like no more than like 10 guys who quit their wageslave job to throw a hail mary attempt at making a successful game with already prepared plans to kill themselves if it fails.
>>738747248
don't care tranny
>>738746502I'd say they were allowed to have their passion projects if they let us have our games the way they existed until gamergate.And physically they are still able to put out their passion project and find their audience. If they truly cared about the project then that should be enough to satisfy. But they want money. And not customer money, but investor money. You can put out however many games you want but if you expect to be overnight millionaires like old game companies then you should fix your expectation. I'm not saying be broke forever and never pay the people who work with you, but putting out art is not contingent on earning money. If you want your audience to be a soecific subgroup of people then you should find that subgroup instead of your haters. If the math aint mathing on your audience size then you need to make a decision on how much you want to put out your voice, you do not need to berate or even acknowledge trolls, people who seek out ways to hate you.Don't expect recognition from the wider gamer audience if you aren't making games aimed at them. If you try to blame them for you putting out something unpopular, you will be mocked. If I ever make a game it is because I want it to exist. Anything beyond that is a bonus, even if it is negative attention from people I don't like.
>>738746502>my target audience are the only people allowed to review my game!>you should buy it though, I need your money.Hmmm.
>>738748637That's not what is being said though.
>>738746502Me? I didn't even do anything.
>>738746707I loved Poop & Cum Slurry 2I can't wait for 3
>>738748678>That's not what is being said though.but it is. If it weren't that they were review bombing it, they wouldn't be buying it and she'd be whining that the studio has to go out of business because no one wants the game. This is the same complaint remixed as always.
>>738748476Turning your back on your history and culture while relying extensively on donations and support from the people who grew up loving that history and culture doesn't go well.Also they tried anyways.I was gone by then so I don't know how that all went but the BSA was already pissing its people off well before this.They tried to claim it was no longer allowed for a child to pick up a stick and pretend it was a gun while screwing around.Guess what boys pretend a stick is 50% or more of the time when they pick one up and are in the damn woods?Dedicated people in the BSA already knew some fucky shit was up.
The game industry target audience were straight men for decades. Sounds like she decided to work in the wrong place.Also>it's YOUR fault that MY game sucked and failedWomen never beating the allegations.
Just make one passionate project about trooning out kids with faggotry and your company is gone. What a world.
>>738746502I actually agree with her. The problem is that there aren't any AA or AAA games where i am the target audience anymore. Thats why people are pissed and thats why there is a culture war in gaming.
>>738748476Boy Scouts is now known as "Scouting America" since 2025, throwing away ~110 years of tradition and a safe outlet for boys.
>>738748476>>738748853also I want to say the stick thing was early 2010'spossibly pre-2014
>>738748796No, you retard.
>>738749370>No, you retard.Yes.
>>738746502>do nothing>BPD woman has a meltdown on twitter
>>738746935You don't get it anon. Everyone loves fags! Twitter said so! Why isn't everyone loving my fag game?! I deserve the money!!!
wtf is this? I just went to check and they seem to not even be talking about any game they made or any specific game in particular.
>>738749865It's engagement bait, probably a bot.
>>738748357Trvke
They're right
If your "passion project" is actively trying to shit up society instead of making a fun game then you better expect some wrath here and there.
>>738746502>make a game for a whole 10 people>randomly call me a nazi chud maga republican as their first interaction>their 10 fans don't buy their game>somehow this is my faultjust fucking leave me alone.
>>738747008That's just a genuinely bad game even leftists are embarrassed by.Please try again.
>>738747219u mean jewish
>>738746502Damn that's crazy. I hope she doesn't trip and fall stomach first onto the edge of a concrete fountain.
>>738748357This is actually correct.The sad part is that people with genuinely good ideas will never ever be valued by industry so many of them don't get past a couple early builds.
I agree with this Twitter Opinion.you could just be doing your thing (as opposed to corpos trying to impose on people), sharing or selling it online so whoever is interested can try it as well, only to have a bunch of chodes gang up on you because they've been told by some shmuck on twitter to think it's the CURRENT THING to wage war on. not to mention, the raids are almost always based on made up or easily spottable bs twitter posts. I don't think it dooms your studio though.
>>738746502There has only ever been one type of review bomb on steam.Its the type that happens when you hurt the feelings of chinese people.
>>738749370lol he can't refute it at all
>>738750991I hope inXile shuts down and burn. They can't do shit besides Wasteland and they barely even care about the 3, it was shallow and the dlc are rushed garbage. I paid for their stupid kickstarter for Wasteland 2 and I loved it, but they are so averse to rely on their only strong license to survive they offer their ass to microslop, fuck you
>>738751447Things like this don't happen unless someone is actively trying to influence culture outside of merely making a video game.You can't name a single time what you have described has happened. Every single time is a politically motivated turd made by people who genuinely don't care about the medium and are using it as a propaganda platform.Name a single example of what you described happening.
maybe don't make bad games
Natural selection. Good, successful games come out all the time. Valve was right when they said your game just needs to be good to make it big.
>>738746502despite doing nothing, they value my abilities highly
no one cares about user score on meta critic and to "review bomb" on steam a bunch of people need to actually purchase the game
Why do they feel entitled to success and hate people who play video games at the same time
Shit like this is why I've just stopped paying for any western games, indie or otherwise.Literally all western devs are like this, no matter how big or small.
>>738752512yea, I pirate everything i want to play now. Dont know what garbage this person is a dev for but I doubt i would even want to pirate it
>>738746502Perhaps her target audience doesn't exist? Not everyone is passionate about the same things.
A passion project implies you're doing it for non-monetary reasons. Twitter screencap thread hidden.
>>738748497What in the fuck is this about? Whats the context?
>>738751447>I don't think it dooms your studio though."No sales" doom studios. And I can easily see that happening.They say any publicity is good publicity, but I think a lot of time people genuinely get sick of hearing negativity related to games, movies, etc. which makes them avoid them. Even in cases where they might have otherwise liked the product.It's like the inverse of hype. Instead of something being touted, creating exaggerated expectations, it's something being stomped down, creating apathy and feelings of resentment.
>>738746502A game that gets 10/10's across the board will attract attention regardless. If Mixtape got a bunch of 7/10 reviews, no one would care about it at all. No one would have heard of it. If you make a journo bait game, don't be surprised when non journos shit on it.
>>738752965It's literally explained right there in the first paragraph.
>>738746832>Well you are just the vocal minorityIn their hugbox safespace where no criticism is allowed, sure.
>>738746502Why would getting negative reviews "doom your studio"? Oh, a woman posted it, opinion dismissed. I may as well Dirge up this shitty twit screencap thread with Steam keys.P7RBP-ZLY94-KXQKJ5IRVY-P0TY6-205I0IF0LA-0YBAP-PLFEJD2RJK-E7GG7-P28N6ZTV0J-4W0HV-H8GBDJ9XM9-RWJL8-EDHC2HW5I8-DWY9F-9FBKQJAWBQ-IVCFZ-2TAPYW8N4H-ZXMW9-WW8ZVF84I9-TLNK4-43FQGQZFZK-W4VK3-V8ECMFT4AE-YREW6-CD8WR7NBQR-7W28W-PYHIT
>Their review bombing>Our justified critique
>>738746502>make an indie game for niche audience>hire the wrong marketing team>marketing team starts marketing outside the niche audiencemarket your thing correctly? like if you make a cozy game that's supposed to be played by 16-25 year old transwomen, don't market it as a cozy game meant for a general audience. wave those trans flags on all promotional material so people know what to expect.(this example doesn't correspond to anything, i made it up).
>>738754490If you make a game for trannies, they are going to end up spamming it everywhere regardless because they thrive on being obnoxious
>>738746502I don't get it, let's say 100% of your target audience buys your game, who cares about what the people outside it say?
>>738746502Just don't advertise to the Chinese and you'll avoid getting review bombed when the translation isn't great.
>>738746502>doom your studiosound like your target audience didn't show up...
No piece of art is exempt from criticism.
any attention is good attention even if its negative, if negative attention impacts you negatively its because you developed shit
>>738749638>>738754295>>738748924>>738749638You heard it here, /v/ says TRANS RIGHTS
>>738754594trannies and much of the 10000 gender crowd base their entire existence off of a social construct.To them words are genuinely violence and anything that compromises their social constructs is hitting their very soul. (not REALLY, but to them that is what is happening)Its the only explanation I can find for how fragile they are.
>>738746502This is what happens>Pander to troons and femmoids>They shower you with likes on twitter>You immediatelly translate this into sales>Release the game>All those virtue signalling fags are nowhere to be seen and maybe 5 of them actually buy your slop>Most other gamers hate it and leave negative reviews>Surprise Pikachu face
>>738754295>all already goneYou just posted a bunch of used codes, didn't you, you cunt
>>738746502so is she admitting it was wrong to criticize stellar blade just because they don't like big titty women? that it was wrong for multiple devs to criticize elden ring because the quest design or UI didn't appeal to them specifically? I'm confused on she thinks her point is here.
>>738746502No? Someone has to buy your shitty game first. And if they buy your shitty game guess what, they're your audience. Don't like it? Don't sell your game.
>>738754872I looked at the avatar for a second.>>738755106I don't think I did, here's some more.LZN9H-KHJ84-IT048RDVZN-9AMDC-2T4TH7G7PK-MP6G9-MW8GBRJ0B9-VDWF9-2JWHMTIRE6-K36V5-8FHJKVARYB-8PJ4K-LX7N456AM5-YHD67-23JAN7CF4P-FNJRQ-HQ0HFDX84P-B8JYJ-MH5NIFNWVF-89QJ5-X8R5HQYQQ7-4ZTFZ-8KX58AC3JY-R7J2C-834NDWA8EJ-VQ3YK-LJIKEZZT5A-B9WZ0-F9I74
>>738753876I guess the First Amendment doesn't exist anymore. Freedom of association was a critical right and it's fucking dead. Freedom of association meant freedom to exclude people from your shit.
>>738755627>first amendment mentioned>zero mentions of free speech
>>738755791https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/amendment-1/overview-of-freedom-of-association
>>738755569>QYQQ7-4ZTFZ-8KX58Wow free game, thanks. I won't play it, but it bumps up my numbers.
>>738755925
>>738746502She's unironically right.
>>738746965That game with the dyke knight
>>738746502nah she's talking about Helldivers 2.the devs are cunts who need to fix the bugs, but the playerbase needs to fuck off.
>>738754872oh its a tranny? yeah no wonder he feels left out and blames others about his mental state lmao
>>738746502They thought they were being so clever with 'gamers don't have to be your audience.' Turns out even when we aren't, we can kill them with our freaking minds. We were in fact right behind them, and that just happened.
>>738755627I guess the irony of women complaining about men entering "their spaces" is completely lost on you.
>>738748381They do have a system that will flag the games reviews in general if it has an abnormal amount of negative reviews come in I think outside of some time period around release or an update, and a system for flagging reviews that don't seem to be actually about the game (see Monster Hunter World getting a review bomb from the Chinese when the Monster Hunter movie came out) but I don't think they have any system to specifically flag reviews from people who have refunded, or if they have it hasn't had an outwardly visible indicator like the other two.
What does she mean? I made a company with my own money and nothing will 'doom' it except if I dont renew the registration every year for around 200 bucks. And ive released a game that approximately 7 people (probably based shitposters here) bought which doesn't 'cover the cost' because ill be doing it anyway. The fact that the videogame industry has virtually zero barriers to entry should mean anyone with that kind of meaningless opinion should instantly be recognized as a slave caste 'employee' with zero drive or creativity and all opinions of theirs should be greyed out like an inaccessible questline.
Having your own parallel industry is fine but stop trying to subvert the existing games industry to do itOf course people are going to find it weird that some shitty 16 FPS movie game about skateboarding lesbians listening to dadrock is getting better reviews than an expansive and complex AAA game like Crimson Desert, it's not even a real game
>>738746502based fuck women and trannies
>>738755974>illiterate
>>738756710No. I don't find it weird at all.Modern games journalists prefer story over gameplay.I mean, I don't know what the story is of that game but I get the vibes that it's journalist bait.
>>738746502Why are women like this
>>738758826>women
>>738746579Fippybippy
>>73874650299% percent of you are missing the >SheImprove your transvestigation skills.
>>738746502I think if you've made people so offended at the idea of your game that they will go out of their way to bomb it there's a problem with your passion project or how it was marketed. I am not the target audience for Hello Kitty Island Adventure. I have no desire to mock Hello Kitty Island Adventure. But I will gladly mock Mixtape especially after those reviews it got.
>>738746502
>>738746597Spbp
>>738746502>You can't dislike my game, you're not the target audience.What?
I love killing videogames made by tender, passionate, talented and creative young devs just trying to tell an original story and provide a unique experience, who value the important things like diversity, equity and inclusionMaybe if we reviewbomb harder we'll make her homeless, hungry and forced into dangerous sex work just to survive
>>738756831>retard can't even read the first amendment properly>mistakes a derived right based off of the first AND 14th amendment as the first amendment>illiterate
>>738746502Ironic given the posture that game devs were going to tell chuds what to like in their premium AAA titles. Veilguard comes to mind.
>>738756564>I don't think they have any system to specifically flag reviews from people who have refunded, or if they have it hasn't had an outwardly visible indicator like the other two.That most likely just means it's never happened, and the twatter in OP is full of crap. Since refunded reviews are marked as such, you could easily check if the review bombing was a refund trolling campaign, or legit purchases. And if it was the latter, they should probably be happy for a studio-dooming amount of the sales outside their target audience.
Being a game dev is funny because you can make a live service project, and a crowd that is not your target audience can not buy your game and doom your studio
>>738746579
>>738746502Maybe don't hinge the survival of your studio on the success of a "passion project" being well received?
>>738746502no. I respect women
>>738746502>"transphobe" developers never get brigaded or review bombed
Being game devs is funny because you can make cool games, and one person that is not your target audience can freak out about your games on youtube and doom your industry
>>738746579FPBP just ban all twittershit already
>>738746502My target audience is people who write only positive reviews.
>>738746502Based review bombers.
>>738746870>>738747034>wait a minute, they are winners and conquerers and we are retards? Yeah, you are retards.
>>738746502i'm not chinese?
>>738748497This is why having MTF troons is a good thing and shouldn't be impeded. Let them wreak havoc on female spaces.
>>738756492No, because they are smart and care about having nice things. Not about being a cuck who is "fair".
>>738746502bomb? but IGN gave it 10. perfect score!shalom
>sheare you sitting down for this one brother?
>>738756492>retard thinks women can be honor and logic shamed the way men canlollmaothey just want to win and have thingsmorality is for men to be retards aboutwomen only understand violence and direct social consequences.
>>738746502>shut up and consume
Make a better game nigger, not my fuckin problem your shit sucks
>>738746502>Review bomb.I didn't review bomb it, though? I just...didn't buy this guy's game. I did nothing at all.
>>738746502How do you review bomb if you haven't bought the game and became part of the audience
>>738746502that shoe belongs on you, CHUD!
>>738765418>women>understand consequencesWho's the retard here, retard?
>i made a game full of things most people do not like and now it didnt sell. how could this possibly happen to me?
To me, it never stops being funny how all these passion project games only interest the non target audience as a laughing stock while the actual target audience doesn't even give a single solitary fuck.
>>738748041This. I worked for the BSA for the past 12 years and it was a massive hissyfit when the Scouting America program became co-ed, as if that was a new development. Sea Scouts, Venturing, STEM Scouts, and Explorers have all been co-ed since the 80's.>>738748476The organization is still incorporated as Boy Scouts of America, but the main scouting program changed from Cub Scouts/Boy Scouts to Scouts BSA, then Scouting America. The main differences is we had to stock ladies' cut uniforms and handbooks too, but nobody really gave a shit and we encouraged people to pick uniforms based on the cut that would fit them rather than adhere to some strict gender dichotomy. Not everyone is shaped the same way, so pick what fits you.People would go nuts in the fall months when we'd run uniform promos, we'd get tons of new scouts that would want full uniforms each.
i guess you weren't the modern audience after all. sorry.
>>738746579keeeeeeeek
>>738746502What the hell did she put in her game to begin with to make randoms bother to review bomb it?
>>738768925literally anything manchildren don't like
>>738746502I get their point but I also wish they would stop trying to launder fake enthusiasm through game journos and just let the target audience speak for itself. I guess it depends on the circumstances of the game in question but for example no one would've cared about Mixtape pandering to zillennial normalfags who have a falsified nostalgia for the 00's if they didn't flood every single gaming news platform with fake paid reviews for a fucking 3 hour game lol.
>>738746502Your studio was doomed because your target audience was your relatives, 6 friends, and 23 retards from tumblr and deviantart. The "crowd that is not your target audience" is what you needed to sell your product to if you wanted to survive.
>>738755569Thanks. I have no idea what this is.
>>738747059this is why i wonder why denuvo gets pushed so hard. it stops a vast majoirity of people spreading word of mouth advertising oh thats right, no good game actually has denuvo
i have never reviewed a game. who does that?
>>738770645seems weird to me too unless it's a game I really loveeven then I only reviewed one game because an anon made it, I really enjoyed it, and I wanted to help him out
>>738746502Then who is your target audience?Didnt really think that one through huh...
>>738746502its called gatekeeping. dont make shit games bitch.
>>738746502Why does she care about review bombs if it's a passion project?
I'm making a game right now.Where's the best place I can go to shill it while also get some discussion going on?
I think a lot of people here are gay retards who want games to fail because they enjoy meme fagging and shit posting more than they enjoy video games. So she has a small point from that perspective.But in general, review bombing doesn't really exist at a scale that can impact anything, and it's just used as a sort of narrative control/coping mechanism for why a product somebody invested time and money into is meeting with audience rejection. Most of the retarded faggots here can't even get a job, and the idea of coordinating 10,000 of them to create an account somewhere and write a bad review is cartoonish. What generally happens is the game (or movie or whatever) doesn't find an audience because it has some sort of flaw, people leave bad reviews and it just gets called review bombing without real cause or evidence.
>>738756045Are you saying that would have been a success if chuds hadn't started making fun of it? Feels like if anything, the chuds gave the game a lot of free advertising.
>>738746502what are the odds he has ever complained about another game for some reason? because that is then complaining when you are not in the target audience.what a ridiculous claim to try to make, completely obviously retarded if you think about it for even a second
>>738746502Dear Xir,We'd like to license your detection technology which allows you to distinguish between ratings made by your target audience and 'others'.Really hope it's not just 'whoever gave the game 8 - 10 out of 10 = target audience'.
>>738768791>as if that was a new developmenton the bsa side its not that simple.a minor but significant part of the BSA was giving the boys a safe space during the throes of puberty without girls around to be nervous over.Venture and seascouts DELIBERATELY pick from an age range that is later than the normal BSA range of 12-18 and alter their activites.I remember venturing was more like 15-21.We were kind of primed to just expect shit to get worse.I worked for my camp over the summers from 2011-2016, so we barely have any overlap.Personally?I would have been worried about the bathrooms more than anything else.Women are fucking nasty and their bathrooms were always the worse to clean.My specific camp was a cubscout one where parents came along, and we had a sister camp a walk away setup for boy scouts.So across the two of us and the staff scuttlebutt we KNEW things.Finding out the female camp director on the Boy Scout camp side had been fucking the staff (over 18 AND under 18) was not fun.
>>738771110Reddit.
>>738768925>>738769220randoms by definition cannot "review bomb" anything.
Review bombing implies people are buying your "game" kek
>>738771474>. So she has a small point from that perspective.If the ''enemy'' can ''doom her studio'' by posting a bunch of 0/10 reviews and her ''target audience'' can get easily swayed by obvious review bombing, maybe there wasn't a target audience to begin with.That's what happens with fags making game for '''''modern audience'''''.
>>738746703>nooo you can’t target a le HECKIN niche market You can always tell the retarded asmongold enjoyers
If all they did was make games 90% of people are not interested in there wouldn't be a problem. However they always decide to go on a social media rampage calling gamers every slur they can and then crying when the mob retaliates.And like mixtape you can't even say "oh but it wasn't their fault, game journos just overplayed their hand" because clearly it was astroturfing. IGN staffers don't get out of bed and put in a full day's work without a massive backhander from their friends.
>>738746502>noooo you're not allowed to review a game unless you like it
>>738746502review "bombs" only happen when developers lie. People don't go out of their way to buy games they already know they wont like - hence why shitty games like marathon have positive reviews. That's because bungie didn't lie - they teased a puke-green extraction shooter, they had a public beta test of a puke-green extraction shooter, they released a puke-green extraction shooter, and people who love puke-green extraction shooters are on cloud nine, while people who don't want to play a puke green extraction shooter do not own the game at allthe claim that review bombs come from some bunch of chuds who weren't the target audience to begin with is demonstrably false every time. It doesn't help that these 'bombs' are also, just fucking call them what they are - customers opinions. Shitty devs have demonized them into some form of high-level griefing, while they're proven to be an extremely powerful tool for customers to make their voices heard.
I have a young son and I've been thinking about enrolling him in cub scouts. Should I?
>>738747047That's my secret anon, I don't like any game.
>>738746502weird how that only happens in rare cases though
>>738746597do it anyways
>>738761396Would
>make game>it gets 10/10 reviews on all (((media))) sites>it gets overwhelmingly positive reviews by users>buy game>it's shitam I supposed to NOT leave a negative review?
>>738746502Why would your target audience care about the opinion of people that are not your target audience? Is your target audience retarded?
>>738751447So, like gamers were doing themselves, before feminists told everyone to gang up on them and make everything fake and gay. There's no use in complaining about reciprocity bitch, vae victis is ugly.
>>738746502Let me guess.The bitch antagonized the crowd that isn't her target audience on social media and then went all surprised pikachu face when crowd retaliated.No one wakes up in the morning thinking: I'll spend my day on the internet looking up random passion projects and review bombing them into oblivion.
>>738746502sounds like there isn't an audience and ur actively losing your boss's money if that's all you contribute
>>738746703>>738772613If they expected to appeal to a niche market they wouldn't make statements like the OP. It insinuates that a game was sabotaged by bad reviews of players themselves, on the opposite hand actual review platforms such as IGN were caught manipulating votes and writing hit pieces on Asian games. Popular VTubing companies that lost USAID funding were forced to go 100% political because NGO stipulated their revenue flow. A gamer can only vote with his wallet against an invasion with no true audience that is willing to stick up for any game that's catered to their supposed ideal worldviews because at personal level you mistrust the message, many LGBTQ communities condemn this type of attention as well, it's seen as utilizing their identity for a profit then leaving them to deal with the backlash when they had nothing to do with it in the first place.
>>738746502Nah, she's talking about journos.
>>738751674I don't think Mixtape goes in the same spectrum as Dustborn but there is a mentally ill faggot who keeps making 5 threads on the catalog constantly shitting himself over woke woke woke. I honestly believe that there is an incentive to review bomb games from both sides of the horseshoe and thats why i'm a militant for letting both of these retarded groups throw themselves on a pike. I see what Lords of the Fallen 2 is doing, i see what the shills behind The First Descendant are doing, Stellar blade was somewhat of a victim where a mediocre reheated Nier got elevated and paraded around as the savior of gaming just because the character was a "return to form"not by its own fault, to be honest. On the other side i see the shit like the medieval knight game where it could have worked as a parody game with bad animations but it got used by the devs to become a laughing stock.
>>738773667>Is your target audience retarded?More like non-existent.The part where they all fell for obvious review bomb is shitty cope.
>>738774063>reheated Nierretard
>>738746502if a game is fun people will play it, simple as.
>738746502Sounds to me like she should have made it clear(er) what their target audience was, so people outside of that scope couldn't have missed the point.In short, you're both retarded.
>>738746502> t. never made a game in her life
>>738746502>studio doomed because game doesn't sell to people it wasn't intended to sell toUh... So?
>>738746502Having done this indie dev thing for a while, I've dealt with my share of crabs and/or schizos (mostly from aggy) and I've mostly just ignored them. A bunch of them wanted me to fail but they can't actually do anything because at the end of the day, most people don't actually get that passionate about some random dev making games he likes without making huge waves. That's why indie games typically don't get review bombed, especially not because a "crowd that is not your target audience" found it. Even a known indie developer like Toby Fox can cause controversies despite mostly keeping to himself and ignoring social media, and yet none of those controversies really affected the reviews of his games anywhere. If you're at the point of getting review bombed then a developer or publisher did or said something that really pissed off people and they wanted to be heard in some way. I'm talking about something like the Ooblets situation where the developers pulled the rug from under Patreon supporters by going against their earlier announcement that their game was coming to Steam by announcing their game now was an EGS exclusive and then insulting the fans who got upset about it on top. The only way to really get review bombed hard enough to doom your studio is to do something as shitty as that, and at that point you might want to rethink your business strategy anyway.
>>738746502you don't get to pick who is interested in your gameyou can AIM it at a target audience, but assuming your aim is good, and that you can execute the shot AND hit it, are different levels of achievementI work on a jrpg gacha game that was developed for the fatlus audience but we got the furry audience because all characters are based on dragons, nobody minds, they pay a ton of money for shit skins and weak content
>>738746885She's mistakenly referring to slay the spire 2, it got review bombed by Chinese, not the mythical chud strawmen. Theres plenty others, you know damn well lwhat they are unless this is your first time on /v
>>738775643why don't you name them then?if steps such as 'don't hire anita sarkeesian' are too hard for you to follow, then you probably shouldn't be making games either way, stay off my hobby faggot
>>738775643In STS2s case its because the chinese seem to be the only people who fight against assholes who take the fun away from people
If you're not the target audience then you won't buy it, where exactly are you going to review bomb it?
>>738746502bullshit.just look at all the games that were given shit scores by reviewers yet were still financial successes anyway.works the same for review bombing - if it's overwhelmingly negative or some shit I just scroll down to check if it's a raid or nota good game will succeed on its own merit
>>738775643That can't be right because no-life chuds WERE the target audience for that game.Unless we define target audience as "those we want to sell to" instead of "those who will actually play it".
>>738775963pretty much. devs are just coping that their shit games are totally masterpieces but are just being review bombed
>>738775643>She's mistakenly referring to slay the spire 2that would make it even more retarded>not a passion project since it's just a facelift for STS1>very financially successful>the chinks review bombing the game absolutely are the target audience, like 50% of the players are chinks
>>738746502what game is this Tranny even talking about ? is this a fuckin Gone Home situation again ?
>>738775756Coz I'm too lazy to spoonfeed you facts everyone on /v already knows. Also, not sure what you're arguing against, I'm not woke
>>738769428>very positiveI could swear it was overwhelmingly positive just a couple of days ago. I was ready to call this woman a liar by bringing up the Mixtape reviews, but if its already slipping that fast after all the political ragebaiters started making videos, then I can't really refute what she's saying.
>>738746502The only ones who review bomb are leftist retards who don't even play the games and only when you try and advertise your slop to then and make a mistake doing so
>>738746502What game?
>>738777051Doesn't say. Read the tweet.
>>738746502why is everyone acting like this is gamergate 5.0?
>>738746502Weird how there's plenty of games that don't appeal to the biggest demographics that do just fine. There's about a gazillion random "girl games" that are basically just girly Stardew Valley or decorating games that have a solid market despite being niche. And they don't get reviewbombed because they don't market themselves by telling incels to fuck themselves and then getting shocked when there's pushback.
>>738776257>j-just do your own researchno, stop being retarded
>>738746502It you consider it a passion project you shouldn't care, as you do it with passion. But if you get mad you lose sales, then it was just a cashgrab.
>>738746502i have never reviewed a game
>>738746502If she's referring to Mixtape, it wasn't because it was a passion project but because how it was forcefully pushed by game journos and we can see right through it.
>>738777181Alan Wake 2 didn't market itself as a woke game and the discord raiders made sure to kill any and all discussion on the game here which also spilled over steam discussions.
>Game gets shit on by journos and trannies for being sexist >"This is outrageous! You can't shit on a game just because it panders to an audience you don't like!">Game gets reviewbombed on steam for having trannies and niggers>"Lmao stop crying! Everyone can express their opinion you commie fuck."
>>738746935If you go to any business school and take marketing classes you will get inudated with professors telling you that the largest and most profitable market are lgbt markets because they and their allies will gobble your product/service up. They have been doing this line of approach since the early 2000s. Not only has this backfired to the point where non lgbt hate lgbt people now it is making a strong resilient movement of people that dont want to see lgbt people and themes anymore.
>>738777520who are you quoting
>>738746579The fact that twitter threads aren't banned on sight is proof mods don't give a fuck about this board.
>>738746579I drew a big bootied femboy shitting loudly. This drawing has nothing to do with video games, I just want to get banned so I can take a break from this fucking website
>>738746502good. stop making shit that isn't aimed at me
>>738746502>sheit's a troon
>>738773553based gender affirming anon
>>738768925>>738770781>>738773868>>738775079>>738775643>her>she
>>738746502This the faggot who made mixtape?I don't buy games I don't care about. But if you pay off every media outlet to shill your kusoge everywhere and normalfags hate it because the reviews are fake, then, well, you get what you deserve.
>>738754295dayum thanks anon.what am I in for?
>>738777520>Game gets reviewbombed on steam for having trannies and niggers>"This is outrageous! You can't shit on a game just because it panders to an audience you don't like!">Game gets shit on by journos and trannies for being sexist>"Lmao stop crying! Everyone can express their opinion you commie fuck."
>>738771110Make tiktok shorts showcasing mechanics and gimmicks until you have a demo to share with streamers
>>738746502Only brown people review bomb
>>738746502But how does this affect me personally?
>>738747216"71" is more than the people who own the game
/v/ also thinks jerking off to chicks with dicks isn’t gay or tranny-coded. They also support trump and think Michael Jackson isn’t a pedo.
>>738779449That is clearly gay and trump is a jew*moonwalks away*
>>738748497Isn't excluding someone from a space for their biological sex just fucking illegal? I thought women / men only bars, gyms etc. were just straight up illegal, aside from nuanced situations like services for rape-counceling for women and suchCrying patriarchy doesn't change the fact, entitlement goes both ways, ladies.People have completely normalized misandry in today's day and age.
>>738746502>>738746703They wouldn't seethe so hard at picrel and zenchud if they believed any of this shitthe truth is that in their bitchbrains they try to force the superposition of the 2 following false realities>men are evil if they don't like progressive wokeslopvs>the buying power of evil white guys doesn't matter anyway, because they're outnumbered and wokeslop is totally viable without govt moneyThey don't really want us to accept we're not the target audience at all. The unorganic shillwave of positive PR is an attempt to convince us we are.
>>738746502>make a game nobody wants>games audience doesn't buy it>it was their fault for not buying it>go to social media and bitch
>>738746502You are not entitled to have your product liked, cunt.You want my money and good review?Cater to me
>>738777186Sit on it, brainlet
>>738779149You're right, that's stupid. Both should be okay :)
>>738779097Vines.
>>738746502>i'm living inside her head rent freesee you later virgins
[x] DoubtIf your game got enough traction that you're getting people review bombing it, it means you marketed it successfully. But your game might just be shit
>>738779769Nothing's illegal when you're jewish.
>>738746502You guys need to stop being so entitled.
>>738746502>spend over a decade shitting over videogames>goycattle interprets this as the regular behaviour against videogames>they now shit on videogames you makebravo kojima, i could have never seen that coming, i kneel
>>738746502>make embarrassing shit game>people find it funny to fuck with you>cry about it on twitter.com
>>738785358There's nothing wrong with that statement. Gamers aren't some homogenous mass.
>feminist doesn't like a product not aimed at her>whips up a cancel mob on twitter to harm the product>4chud doesn't like a product not aimed at him>whips up a cancel mob on 4chan to harm the productI don't see how she is even wrong. You're hypocrites, you've always been hypocrites.
>>738746502>sheGlad I can make "her" seethe so easily.
Can't we just use the same logic? You're just not the crowd for those kind of reviews.
>>738786065True but after a decade of games that used to be made for me being subjected to wild changes in pursuit of the "wider audience" I am exactly what game devs have made me.
>>738746502She'd stop talking if she knew what was good for her.
>>738748476Same reason the USofA doesn't rename itself "Israel's bestest cocksucker".An accurate name isn't always good for marketing.
>>738786353>>4chud doesn't like a product not aimed at him>>whips up a cancel mob on 4chan to harm the productnever happened
>>7387555697G7PK-MP6G9-MW8GBwhat am in for?
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>>738746502The reality is this never happens with passion projects.
>>738788125Based.
>>738764968conquering sure involves a lot of being laid off while i continue to be a retard that can play video games i enjoy
>>738746703What audience they want?Every woke game has>Afroamerican, bald woman>She's lesbian>Type 1 / Type >Audience spend over $70 usd every week for get all the woke
>>738786065>There's nothing wrong with that statement.Except for the fact that it's not "gamers"who are self entitled and keep demanding everything caters to them.Retard.
>>738746502>funnyhe doesn't look very entertained
>>738788404What happened to sexy black women in vidya?
>>738746502You should stop blaming the players and start blaming the reviewers who call the game a 10/10 masterpiece must play when it's actually a boring piece of shit. Because when you give a game a good score naturally other people outside of that target niche will try it and when they find out that it's a boring piece of shit they'll say so.See also: Highguard's initial negative reaction on reveal was partly due to Geoff sticking it in the last big reveal slot of a major news outlet, raising expectations for a game that should have had none.
>>738748357
>>738746502but i've done nothing
