What vibe-coded games are you downloading on s&box?
>>738752038armorgames dot com has more complex and quality games than the shitbox at this point and there is no $20 entry fee either. doa rugpull idiocy
trash like this is so uncreative. is there a name for indie concord-likes?
>>738752038for anyone who doesn't know what op is talking about, you can easily decompile s&box games and get the original source code back 1:1. garry may patch ithttps://sbox-downloader.com/
>>738752038>robloxz ripoff game
>>738752550Isn't that a flaw(design choice) of C#?
>>738752038>>738752272This, GMod isn't dying just because some new gay shit comes out>>738752357Asset flips are worse, but this is just a step above that. We used to call them shovelware.
>>738753153There are ways of getting around it but yeah basically, by default anything in C# is an open book, much like Java the worst you can do is obfuscate it.
>>738753153>>738753529It's not even giving you dlls so you can put it in a mono decompiler. It straight up gives you the project including source code (CS files). They make the game client compile everything when you join a server. Absolute lunacy.
wish game engines made more client-hostile netcode where the only thing the client sent was their inputs, the server would do the authoritative simulation, and both would stay in sync with rollback. definitely not easy to deal with though
>>738753608>They make the game client compile everything when you join a serverFor a game that doubles as a game engine it doesn't sound so weird. C# is a JIT language anyway and this sounds like it makes iterating on your game easier for amateur devs i.e. the target audience. There might also be a security angle to it, where a dev can't supply malicious binaries. But yeah even if you sent DLLs out, those are just IL which gets compiled again in real time for your machine anyway.
>>738753828This has been a solved issue for decades at this point. Even s&box had it at one point then gayry decided nah let's just let clients spawn and control whatever the fuck they want. If you want server authoritative networking now you have to roll your own netcode. If anyone ever gives a shit about this engine the cheating is going to be hilarious.
>>738754396>cheating is going to be hilarioushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8BzJN0lhu4
JBMod: Source 2 edition when?
>>738752550This is retarded it's just the dogshit you see on fortnite created maps that are all fucking shit and no one plays them. If people don't play the created """""modes""""" on fucking fortnite, which is one of the most popular games, this has no chance. He thought this would make money lol.
>>738752550Everything that was made or will be made in this shit is worthless so it doesn't matter
>>738752550garry literally on suicide watch
>Teto so MINDBROKEN that he has to make another S&ndbox threadKEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
rather be playing YouTube playableshttps://www.youtube.com/playables
unironically better learning material than the official docs, that's how fucking useless facepunch is.
>>738752550Lmao. They somehow managed to fuck this up worse than Godot and their engine isn't even fully open source. Bravo, Garry.
>>738752038What the fuck is "vibe-coded" supposed to mean and why am I seeing it everywhere lately?Is it just "poorly-coded" for gen alphas?
>>738758132it's a retarded phrase that means AI coded that just uses the word vibe for no reason because it happened to be the FOTM word
>>738758195>AI codedBut... that's fewer letters than vibe. Why would you abbreviate something to a longer word.That doesn't make any damn sense.
>>738758132untalented faggot losers who can't code attempt to convey the vague "vibe" of what they want to an AI agent that shits out slop code for them.ask any facepunch dev to demonstrate.
>>738752038if the tractor's full-blown how is it going to mow the lawn?
>>738756851based. im personally downloading braxen games
>>738758669You'd do well to delete those
>>738758783it's for archival sake. s&box game devs doesn't like people taking their game source code, i wonder who to pick
>>738759152downloading stellafaggot games
>>738756676youtube have games?
hmmm
>>738753828>>738754396>wanting an authoritarian network to dominate and control your local PC Holy FUCK this is advanced bootlicking. Get the fuck back to >>>/pol/ you utter buffoons
>>738758330There's a big difference between AI assist and vibe coded. Say what you want about facepunch but they made multi million dollar games before AI was even a thing so this angle doesn't even work. The copilot coauthor screenshot that keeps getting posted means nothing and anyone posting it as some sort of gotcha is retarded.Any professional coder uses AI assist now. You're a retard if you don't. Most companies would FIRE you for saying you don't use AI because you'd be wasting fucking time or letting obscure, non-obvious bugs go through that the AI will be able to point out. If you say this is indian or slop then you are either not a coder or you're a junior 0.1x engineer.>>738760161funny, I'm going to use that.
>>738754396>>738753828the whole point of sbox is the multiplayer and a studio of 25 white autists couldn't be bothered to write some clientside prediction themselves
>>738752038are you forced to look at those ugly sausages? i thought people said that they didnt matter because you could replace them anyway
>>738758237The "vibe" part of it is used to indicate the mindset of the person doing it and in part the results. As rather than using the AI as an assistant and then reviewing the code or having an AI check through the code, they don't care about the quality of the code at all and moreso if it just vaguely looks like it is doing what they are wanting to do, damn the consequences of a shitload of code that doesn't work, memory leaks, etc.>>738756279I don't know what about this game is acting like a damn mindvirus on so many people. Yeah, it's a shambling awkward mess, but there's people obsessed with it and acting like it shot their dog.
>>738760692a lot of games have forced sausage models, not joking
>>738758132Its like cooking without following a recipe.
>>738759152Can anyone understand why the fuck this person is calling a bug reporter "negative braincells"?
make sure to download your slop games before garry use .dll instead of .cll (kek)
>>738762482egoism just like garry
>>738762482Probably because anyone playing this has negative braincells so it's a good blanket statement.
>>738760395why would i want an assistant whose work i have to check so often i may as well not use itany company on the face of the planet would call this "dead weight" but when microsoft is pushing in my face ohhhhhh you're doing me a hecking luddite! ohhhhh you're Resisting The Future (trademarked by microsoft)! ohhhhh
Innit amazing how Garry COMPLETELY missed what made Gmod so fun and unique
>>738763103both amazing and completely expected, this is after all the man who deleted the facepunch forums because he rarely used them and so was an awkward outsider whenever he did show up
>>738763026please understand, the megacorps already sunk one morbillion dollars thinking that ai would make them infinite money. dont you want to help make that come true? buy product. please buy product.
>>738763103Garry isn't trying to make gmod 2, he's trying to make the new roblox nft marketplace hellscape where all these niggers can come and gamble skins and give him a piece of the pie
>>738763178i think ultimately this is an extension of all that research into how, like, advertising barely works outside of a few specific forms, and since basically all corporate revenue streams are predicated on advertising, this means almost all modern capitalistic infrastructure is bullshit if it doesn't provide food, goods, medicine, or gadgetsbut that's all a completely different conversation
>>738762482spastic tranny no-one likesjust like that dev that made that immersive sim on steam that got sent to jail for 3 yrs for assaulting someone for not respecting his pronouns
I JUST BOUGHT MORE HATS ON THE GARRYVERSE
>>738763719fr? no cap
>>738763026Tech companies have gone all in on the lightning expansion direction for how companies should work with all the startups and at first AI seems really good for that because it can really quickly make a thing that seems to function.Anyone who manages to think even a 5-10 years out medium term raelizes that method is shit and accumulates fuckloads of technical, reputational, and other intangible debt, as well as a shitload of tangible debt, and a cycle of seeking out more and more backers will inevitably fail, but managers are just not taught that shit nowadays.Or if they are, it doesn't fucking stick.>>738763103A major part of what made Gmod as fun and unique as it was was all the content that had been built up over the years for it. That was always going to be an eternal uphill battle because no matter how many people you get in the beta phase, you are playing catchup with over 20 years of stuff.Something that is exponentially worse when the thing you are betaing has a complete engine swap in the middle of it.
>>738763719LUIGI NOLUIGI
>>738760395I've practiced my craft so I don't let "non-obvious" bugs through jeet
>>738763719we're all gonna make it browe're gonna be so rich once this game takes off and becomes the new roblox
jarvis look up most played on roblox and create a copy of itsigh its tough being a game dev...
>>738753608>It straight up gives you the project including source code (CS files).based engine creating infinite C# LLM training data
>>738752357robloxslop
>>738762482he's a vibeslopper and his magic machine couldn't fix the bug, so he's lashing out
>>738763719HOLD
>>738765568it's so over
I found old site of s&box.https://web.archive.org/web/20220401080057/https://sbox.facepunch.com/about/
>>738767125wrong linkhttps://archive.md/T1ruR
>>738766698He's right! I just put 10k into s&box cardboard crowns and neck tattoos
>>738752550Are there any games even worth playing?
>>738767271no lol
>>738752038I made a program that cheated on Neopets by copy and pasting and slightly altering things from questions on stackexchange. Do I have untapped "vibe coding" potential? Is that basically what vibe coding is?
>>738767610>slightly altering thingsYou have no potential. If you copied and pasted verbatim you might have had potential.
>>738752038I only buy physical.
>>738754467why is it 99% russians or chinks that hack on online games? i couldnt give two shits about sandbox but i guarantee you these kikes do this shit on other steam games as well.
>>738767531>we give them a dime to boost creativity on our platformNever worked, it only lures scammers
>>738753242>This, GMod isn't dying just because some new gay shit comes outI wouldn't put it past Garry to sabotage GMod out of spite at this point.
>>738768179It wouldn't have worked how I wanted it to if I didn't alter them though...
Are the discord sharty trannies still reading these threads?
>>738769151They're just seething about s&box games being easily decompilable.
s&box is going to be free in 2 years. this is early buy-in for supporters and creators. and a small minority that need to mow the lawn
>>738769330Isn't S&box open-source?
>>738769330Being able to decompile GMod addons is how I learned how to make my ownSomehow I don't think anyone is jumping to learn how Steal A Brainrot was created.
im not buying it until they officially remove sausage models.
>>738769412s&box c# tools are open sourced, the source 2 engine isn't
>>738769330Do they still throw a melty if you call their games AI slop?
>>738769571Yes
>>738767125https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7_AEFX_k6Q
>>738770575vugh...
>>738760395>is indian or slop then you are either not a coder or you're a junior 0.1x engineer.Senior coders aren't using it willingly, you jeet. It WASTES YOUR GODDAMN TIME more than you do yourself.The only people that tout AI are nocoders (YOU) or idiots that don't use their brain (YOU) and think it's some magical thing when it hallucinates wrong answers and you having to fix it's worse-than-Jeet shitpile code for longer than fixing the fucking Jeets shitpile.
>>738758237vibe is fewer syllables so our brains consider it to be a shorter word than AI despite having more letters. I don't make the rules.
truth is that it's right in the middle of >>738760395this jeetslop and >>738771489 this gpt-3 era cavemen comment
>>738763719
>>738763719NOW I'M GETTING PAID STEAMCASH ON SAUSAGE&BOX
>>738758237zoomers only understand the world through canned phrases and memes
>>738770126>They left after about 30 seconds of playing the game and left a negative review holy BASED
>>738768395because they get fucked daily by their authorative states with no way of showing their frustration irl, so theyve moved to digital space to vent off and took the methods of their overlords with them
>>738752272for me, it was stickpage
>>738768986i think there's some kind of hands-off policy with garry and gmod now, updates come out regularly again and the current facepunch crew in charge of it tackled a bunch of shit garry never figured out or wasn't interested in figuring out, like getting the supercharged gravity gun from the end of HL2 working
why the fuck is universal paperclips in this game with an online lobby systemit's a fucking browser game
>>738774173Yeah, I think that might be Rubat.They finally managed to get the HL2 APC in as a default vehicle after 20 years...
>>738752038>codedStop talking like a fucking tranny, faggot.
>>738759761I would say this would be mildly funny to see how many of these games are vibe coded, but we all know that percentage is 99.9%+/-0.1% rounding error, so it seems a little pointless.
>>738774321If a jeet thinks he can make 0.01 garrycoin an hour by knocking off a game, he'll do it.
Habbo Hotel and CSS minigame servers made me consume my entire life's worth of dopamine in the span of 2 years.This is the equivalent of trying to repaint the Mona Lisa with roseart paint and saying "Uhhm well I'm just trying to make something great here if you don't like it don't pay the $20 I'm charging to peek at it".Spiritually Israeli.
>>738752550bravo garry
They are having a melty kek
This is my favorite schadenfreude series of threads.
>>738777081>investor drama
>>738777485you think this is funny? i bought a crown hat and now cant afford to feed my village anymore just because you didnt boughted
>>738752550I should check out this datamining game source code.
>>738778721found the screenshot apiapi.dxrp.net/v1/player/share/screenshot
>>738776353fucking ugly
>>738765338comparing it to roblox is dishonest when roblox not only has an actual playerbase but also better games that you don't even have to pay forsbox is roblox for indians who weren't good enough for roblox
STOLEN GAMES ARE BEING REUPLOADED, KEKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
turns out the sausage people are repurposed from older facepunch projecthttps://youtu.be/ebTNPvYtmOQjust how fucking lazy are they?
>>738776353crap like this getting published on s&fail instead of steam would be a massive improvement
Is the gamemode code at least running in a sandbox, or can you just upload a "gamemode" which drops a credential stelaer?
>>738781034https://sbox.game/dev/doc/code/code-basics/api-whitelist
>>738752038is there a way to make money off this?
>>738781403If you have a sense of dignitynoIf you have the heart of a true capitalistai
>>738752038I only play games from reputable studios, no indie slop.
>>738781698>First twoComparing the game exactly to its likeness>Workshop / mods missingA lack of content is a valid complaint for something you paid for.>AI slop>Performance>NetworkingAll valid complaints>MonetizationThis has been a complaint for the last two decades, still valid>Source 2 SDK expectationsThey used the Source 2 SDK as a selling point>Released too early>UI / UXValid complaints
>>738781698>Why do chuds compare our game to GMod?
>>738781698that joy react is filled with seethe
>>738781698Okay Garry what am I allowed to criticize then?
>>738782026You're only allowed to criticize the difficulty of opening your wallet and entering your credit card info.
>>738767531I was too harsh on Roblox, it could be so much worse.
>>738766698Easter bunny hat 2026 bros...
>>738758132People who don't know how to actually code asking the AI to write everything for them and copy-pasting the result in Visual Studio/Unreal/Unity/Godot.It work.Sorta.
>>738776353Amazing, as if that's what we needed, a new mean to let people flood the market with low quality garbage.
>>738782026Shut up cattle, your only role is to spend money to stroke his ego.
>>738752550garry will fix this soon by compiling to .dlls so keep up your impotent resistance garry is already on the case NOW
s&troon xisters, why did our not gmod gmod sequel fail?
>>738763103i wish TTT was a standalone game
>>738757106Godot has such issues?
>>738783873https://github.com/GDRETools/gdsdecomp
>>738783873the godot engine devs and their community don't really care about it iirc
>>738783004gmod and roblox trolls feel threatened
>>738783873the godot engine maintainers actively shut down any suggestions to keep the code more "secure" from their indie devs, as it stands all godot games ship with the encryption key so there are like 5 different ways to crack all of them open within <3 clicks.
>>738781698it's garover
>>738762642It makes no difference and it shows you are retarded who doesn't know anything about this topic. Like someone already said, C# is a JIT language, meaning you can always decompile it effortlessly. That's why a ton of games can be modded with bepinex in the first place. You can literally steal the entire source code of Risk of Rain 2 right now if you wanted to make your own game.
>>738776353>s&box vibe coded trash is breaking out of its containmentBRAVO GARRY AND VALVE
Why do people care about their game code being accessible tho?
>>738785818Because it let's lesser being cash in on your AI work and outgrift you
>>738776353>Someone had to cpay $100 upfront steam upload fee for this garbage
>>738785809>>738786009Valve explicitly approved it. That's the funny part.
>>738785818>spend 10 years writing beautiful code>inspectchad gets your labour for free>spend 20 minutes rushing code>inspectchad publishes your code online and you are eternally made fun of for making bad code a la toby / yandevyou just can't win.
>>738786286>Valve explicitly approved itthey do not play favorites with anyone, asset flips in Unity and Unreal were always a problem on Steam that was overlooked or given no particular treatment.
>>738786307If the only thing standing out in your game is your code, it's not a very good game.
>>738785818slay the spire 2 was decompiled day 1 hour 1 and you don't see them upset about it
>>738786435People have already forgotten Hunt Down The Freeman.
>>738786435unity and unreal asset flips aren't that bad compared to what floods steam every day.i browse new once a day to try new indies and sometimes you get like 12 games in a row from the same dev and all 12 of them are 'match 3'-puzzle "games" with AI slop hentai.
>>738767125>This is our attempt to create a worthy Garry's Mod sequel.he really did a fuck you
>>738781698>NOOOOO I'M A GENIUS AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS WRONG>MY WORK IS PERFECT BECAUSE EVERYONE AROUND ME TOLD ME I'M GOOD AND MY MOMMY SAID I WAS SPECIALI'm actually sick and tired of retards like Garry with this mindset.
>>738781698hahaha what a petty loser. unbelievable. bet he used copilot for this "breakdown" so he can pretend it doesn't count and can dismiss it
>>738752038>2.27 GB
>>738752550This is a good thing though. Lua in gmod allows for the same
>>738768864Monotization improved YouTube. How else would I get my 'person talking over someone else's video' videos?
>>738752038GARRY IS AN ASSHOLE
>>738788005most unoptimized game of all time
I don't get it. Garry prided himself in his system where gamemodes and addons are just git repos that anyone can host and provide their own code. Why is he suddenly kvetching about this being a thing that needs fixing?
>>738788849It's not that bad Chud
>>738789186Nice webm braxen but it's still just a worse roblox knock off minigame
>>738782461KEK
https://litter.catbox.moe/s8fhfckg5bx4anig.mp4>grown ass s&box uncs already crashing out in gamba gamesSpiritual successor to Garry's mod
How did Garry managed to take every single wrong decision at every single turn possible?
Hey Garry just ask the troons, children and pajeets in your discord to make a single good game to justify S&boxs existence, I'm sure they can all work together to do it!
>>738781403there's nothing else you might want to do with this slop machine
>>738785818because on shitbox people will reupload it under a different name for a quick buck >>738780770
>>738790297The hubris of man
>>738752038I still don't get vibe coding. Is it synonymous to prompting? If so, one just needs deep pockets for hardware and premium access for like two dozen ais and one could create all the content needed. Not a single ai in the world can make a game of all the assets, how to finalize the game then?
>>738791340Sounds more like a problem from appealing to scammers.
>>738759761people need trillion dollar AI for this shit?
>>738789186This is literally the same shit you'd find on roblox lel
>>738793685Vibe coding was a term coined by some AI companies themself to push the idea that coders shouldn't bother looking at the code of an application anymore, and instead they should just prompt whatever they want to an AI model, look at the result, tell the AI what needs to be modified/fixed, repeat ad nauseam until you have something that you're happy with.Now, the problem with this method is that unsupervised AI code generation will 100% make your codebase an unmaintanable spaghetti mess with tons of vulnerabilities, and as your project grows and grows this will only get worst
>>738795146>don't look at codeThat's like>don't listen while you talkThis leaves one constantly talking bs>codebaseI actually meant content, as in music, 3d assets and animation. This can be done to a serviceable level if quality. Glueing this together is impossible for any ai I know of. Coding a game could be theoretically possible, but as you say maintaining and troubleshooting isn't possible without an unreasonable amount of work. I tried online gen ai and downloaded it locally and must say the free versions online are better than ever. I wouldn't have expected this two years ago. Music is decent. Everyone knows the accounts on Spotify and the like with ai artists.>ai creates assrtsHow to make a game out of it? Coding everything by hand takes much more time than generating ai assisted assets.
>>738788253On some short period, maybe, now you get 2+ hour essays, ads on top and inside the video, Blackrock investments. It launches inevitable "if I got a dime, can I get a gran?"
You are all poor. Reminder to any aspiring engineers trying to enter the job market: always do opposite of what /v/ says.>>738763026Nocoder, student at best. Knows better than billion dollar companies. Also illiterate and brown because doesn't understand the difference between vibe coding and assist.>>738763178Nocoder.>>7387646742 stars on github and proud.>>738771489Nocoder, can't seem to get any interviews. Illiterate and brown because doesn't understand the difference between vibe coding and assist.
>>738758132Based cave dweller.
>>738771879>zoomers invented naming things Amazing.
>>738766698The only reason for him to make that post is because he already owns a bunch of them and wants the price to go up.
>>738752357shovelware
