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>series has released shit game after shit game for over a decade
>romhackers from the good games pitch an official release
>comes out and is universally loved, publisher seethes so hard over its success that they refuse to do a sequel
has this BTFOing ever happened before or since?
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My issue is that they turned sonic into a cereal mascot character
Its embarrassing how even a nintendo game starfox mogs it now when it comes to seriousness
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tired of hearing about this woke commieshit. get new material
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>>738757969
>My issue is that they turned sonic into a cereal mascot character
With Mania? Bro that happened in the 90s. Sega of America shoved Sonic absolutely everywhere. If it was a medium, Sonic was there.
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>>738759283
No not with mania just the IP in general feels so incredibly childish now I cant stand it and It makes me sad I cant really enjoy it anymore because of it
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>>738757969
>I need my games about the blue cartoon rodent to be super serious!
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>>738757969
He's a blue fast hedgehog, it shouldn't be serious.
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>>738759570
But he was best when he was
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>>738759457
It was always a kids game. Shit like Adventure 2 was a outlier.
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>>738759570
Sonic became more developed and interesting as time went on but then they threw it all out the window with Colors and he's been this stupid clown ever since.
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>>738757969
The whiplash between Illumination's Fox and the new SF64 remake is like going from Sonic Mania to a game with Paramount's original ugly Sonic
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>>738757428
Impressive. Now let's see Penny's Big Breakaway [flop].
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>>738759558
well it could be kiddy and not cringe like that cartoon you posted was, but it also fails at that now
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>>738759457
>former child upset that he can no longer enjoy series aimed at children
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>>738760626
There's this thing called artistic integrity.
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>>738757969
Hey now, that's a cereal box with ATTITUDE
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>>738761807
>that 90s honey nut cheerios font
SOVL
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>>738757428
You forgot
>Add Denuvo to it a year after release
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>>738762026
It was delayed a week for Denuvo, which was then removed like a year or two later
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>make game with fantastic art, fantastic gameplay, fantastic level design
>universal acclaim
>decide not to make sequel and do something new
>make new game with bad art, mid gameplay, mid level design
>gets forgotten in a week
What the fuck went wrong?
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>>738757428
I really don't get the hype about Mania, its not like 2D Sonic isn't incredibly accessible. I'd rather another good 3D Sonic than do the hits all over again.
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>>738762026
nah, actually it was
>delay the pc port by two weeks to add denuvo because someone got it early via the switch
>remove it a year later
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>>738762904
She looked stupid.
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>>738757969
Faggots who whine about Sonic needing to be "taken seriously" are THE scourge of the fandom. Worse than the furries, the lesbian shippers, the classicfags, the lorefags, the children, the smelly autists, everyone. Everything else would be fine if it weren't for you faggots shitting up the fandom and making Sega think making fun the focus isn't the priority. It's a fucking noodle limb cartoon animal wearing vaudeville minstrel gloves based off of Bill Clinton and Santa Claus. It should be based around fun, not seriousness. Go fucking seethe and cope and die in a hole and take your ilk with you.
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>>738763064
because SEGA has been trying to do nostalgia but they missed the mark like 5 fucking times and it took a group of western autists to finally design what's essentially S3&K with extra zones
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>>738760682
>artistic
more like autistic
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>>738759708
Adventure 2 was also a kids game.
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>>738758024
interested to hear you support this opinion
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With Sonic, I think people in general confuse “takes itself seriously” with “edgy and grimdark”.
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>>738762904
>make a horrible unappealing character and use horrible art direction for everything else
>cater to speedruner slop by being able to just jump past half the entire level
>shadow drop your game without advertising

it is a mystery
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>>738762904
>>decide not to make sequel and do something new
no, that was Sega's decision. whitehead wanted to make mania 2
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>>738762904
Ugly as sin character makes me not want to play it
These retards self sabotaged, no other way to read it
Literally make your MC a bitch with huge tits and you are gold, why in the world would you design anything other than that for your game
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>>738763586
sonic is cool edgy. shadow is the dark edgy one.
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>>738763946
I've heard both stories often enough that I'm convinced no one really knows
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>>738764180
it could've been something as simple as
>pay me more for Mania 2
>no
>ok

I think SEGA is just talentless, Superstars is obviously trying to be Mania 2 but they miss every fucking mark
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>>738763419
He doesn't have one.
Most of /v/ is drive by posting or people who's entire personality revolves around their favorite content creator's opinion (That they themselves got from someone else who formed it based on reading a headline and/or tweet once)
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>>738764320
>>738764320
There are also those claims by Stealth that Sega asserted over their builds of Sonic 3 for Origins, and that they wouldn't let Headcannon fix the work for free when they begged to both before and after release. There's definitely a lot of shonkiness going on with Sega and how they view other people working on classic Sonic.
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>>738763419
>>738764449
pretttty sure it's a bot. it has absolutely nothing to do with the OP and it's politics-related.



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