>All loot is level scaled so exploring is pointless Why did Todd mean by this?
>>738759610Stops people from routing a playthru to minmax and lets them enjoy whatever they are doing instead. I don't like it either but it has its function in an open world game.
>>738759610Basically: Morrowind was Bethesda's Swansong. They went all on in console dumbed down slop and aped Lord of the Rings because it was extremely popular at the time, so Oblivion was born. Discount LOTR, worldbuilding that Morrowind and previous games created was destroyed so that they could copy Middle Earth, all loot and enemies are leveled to you so console morons couldn't ever get stuck.
>>738759610Just do like every other bethesda game and mod it til it doesnt suck dick.Yes that includes the leveled enemies and loot. Or mod it to suck dick if youre a fag. Who the fuck am I to judge?This also works with the original STALKER.
>>738759739Morrowind fucking sucks, dude. There's a reason only bitter ass boomers on this site glaze it while normies play Skyrim over and over. Oblivion made a lot of improvements over Morrowind even if it also introduced new problems.
>738759992(you)
>>738759739Morrowind was released on console thoughbeit.
>>738759739the menu UI is heinous. Consolification really shat on the series.
if anything the remake has proven that bethesda was never good to begin with.new vegas and skyrim were lightnings in a bottle and we wont ever see games like that ever.
>>738759610Simply having the unique loot level up with the player instead of being gimped permanently if you get it too early would have been much better.
>>738759704It attempts to solve a problem that doesn't exist in a well thought out game world.
>>738759610am I missing something or are there no keybinds for opening up the Journal/inventory/map specifically? they're all just tab?
>>738760547It was hilarious to watch concurrent player counts for Oblivion drop below Skyrim's less than 48 hours after release. Showed just how disinteresting the game is.
>>738760808nvm, I'm retarded, I should've looked it up, but why not bind them to something sensible?
>>738759704>Stops people from routing a playthru to minmaxSomeone hasn't watched speedruns.
>>738760901guarantee you if morrowind was remade it would do even worse than the oblivion remake. people who shilled oblivion are deserve the guillotine no cap.
>>738759739I find it funny how Skyrim, in a similar vein, ended up being discount Game of Thrones despite the fact that GoT didn't premiere until a few months before the game came out. They lucked out with that.
>>738759704You say this as if Morrowind required any min-maxing at all. That game was easy as shit even on the highest difficulty.
>>738760238>MUH JUNGLEfaggotbride retcon which was rightfully reversed because it's fucking stupid
>>738761146>guarantee you if morrowind was remade it would do even worse than the oblivion remake.Yea, because the remake would likely be a worse version of the original Morrowind and die hard fans of Morrowind would opt for the original while the Skyrim babies would struggle to play it and go back to Skyrim. It would appeal to no one.
Have you ever tried dungeon crawling because it was fun...?
>>738759610Don't forget quest rewards are also leveled meaning that you'll want to avoid doing quests until you're atleast level 20 to get the best versions of quest rewards
>>738759704Completely retarded, bravo Todd!
>>738761729Oblivion’s dungeons aren’t fun at all tho
you niggers realize there's more to TES discourse than just arguing over which game is the worst? I regret coming back to this shitty board after so long. All of you need to kill yourselves
>>738761571You retard, the Imperial Province had been a jungle since Arena
>>738759610>loot is level scaled >the best loot (reflect melee ring and amulet/necklace) is found as a random drop starting at level 20>exploring (exposing yourself to as much random drops as possible) is pointlessI would climb through my monitor and beat you to death with my bare hands if i could.
>>738762778Oh, also no matter what your level is, the best enchantments you can reasonably get are going to be sigil stone enchantments, which are in oblivion gates, which you find from exploring.
>>738762778Who cares, retard? You can just make your own gear that's broken. Or exploit certain chests and wait until the randomized loot in it respawns.
>>738762260>junglecringe>rainforestholy ludokino
I got to the point in my first playthrough where every single enemy was slaughtering me with ease due to my level despite the fact my playstyle had not changed at all and it made me not want to play it anymore
>>738763081>im wrong but like who cares?Kwab
>>738759610>level scaling>have to constantly explore throughout the entire playthrough so your gear doesn't get outscaled>no level scaling>15 hours in (assuming blind and not using exploits) and you're already so kitted out that 95% of encounters are a breeze and offer no upgrades thus making exploring pointless
>>738764912just dont make a stat system that is pants on head retarded where the power creep ruins the game. should be easy. level scaling itself in an action rp game is completely nonsensical.also in morrowind you had chase items like a full set of daedric where you typically only found 1 piece at a time scattered over the world.
>>738765453in morrowind you have to install a fucking mod to hardcuck the assassins the fucking dlc throws at you for just having it installed because they will start dropping ebony gear within 3 nanoseconds
>>738759704>are you trying to 100% a game you bought?!?!?!
>>738759610>All loot is level scaled so exploring is pointlessNo, its actually>all loot is level scaled so need to be a high lvl before getting any unique weapons/armor. Wouldn't want to get chillrend at lvl 4 would you?
>>738760238>hehe look I went to the trouble of replying and also removing one meme arrow so you don't get a (you), I'm totally not anally flustered :^)))))
>You don't understand. The Progression and Combat are supposed to be badWhy are RPG fans like this?
>>738764912just rescale lower leveled areas to a more reasonable difficulty at a certain point in the gameyou can easily coincide it with a story beat
>>738765549yeah morrowind is elder scrolls inverted.Morrowind base game = good DLC = shit you need mods to fixoblivion skyrimbase game = shit you need mods to fixDLC = good
>>738761570This is called, bait, kids.
>>738759610>only reason to play is hoard lootA take so retarded it makes Oblivion's asinine decisions look reasonable.
>>738759739You forgot the quest marker and fast travel from map.
>>738759739Morrowind was bad, too. I genuinely don't understand how you can play a game wherein the combat is actually just slap fighting and you guys jizz everywhere.
>>738759704It flattens the consequences of player's decisions. It's horrible design. You can't find anything better or stronger than you're "supposed to" so there's no need to go looking for shit.People who put scaling in RPGs don't understand what makes RPGs fun.
>>738769325>not finding every hidden piece of daedric armor>not finding all the artifacts for the museum>not making a big junk pile of all your treasures in the house you killed someone foryeah thats what its all about. that RNG stuff is just lame in comparison
>>738761571I hate kirkbrides schizo nonsense for the setting but rainforest Central province is fucking cool, like the one good thing he did
>>738769493>playing melee in elder scrollsmage gameplay is almsot the exact same in all games except you can block spells in skyrim at the cost of only having 1-2 offensive spells that are usable
>>738764912Just make it so you need the lower level stuff to get to the deeper areas, the further from the main roads to the cities you go the more dangerous things get
>>738759610Idk which i like better things like reqiuem makes the early game harder but as soon as you can cheese your way through some high level dungeon and get one of the daedric artifacts usually the game is just over and you can insta-kill everything but dragons and some vampires.
>>738769608it's necessary for Cyrodiil to be weird for High Rock to have a purpose
Oblivion is like pulling teeth. Its the one game I genuinely don't understanding people liking. It does nothing well.
>>738760415it at least had a charming design, with skyrim menus really shat the bed
>>738769634Offensive magic is dogshit in Morrowind especially. It's the utility magic people like to mess around with.
>>738761205They're not really similar outside of general "medieval" vibe (And even ignoring the magic shit Skyrim's setting would be well past the middle ages)
Oblivion was the Starfield of its time
>>738759610>gotta hold off on completing quest A, B, C, D, E & F so you don't end up with a shit variant of the quest rewardI fucking hate level-scaling so goddamn much, bros
>>738759610>exploring is pointlessHuh? Why do non-Americans have 0 imagination? I haven't even beaten this game but I have 300 hours on Remastered. I enjoyed literally just roaming around with my own goals.
