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>You're maintaining accounts, not playing games

I don't play gachaslop at all and I honestly think you're less than human if you do.

>>738766594
I enjoyed FGO mostly because I already enjoyed Fate so I liked reading the story chapters that were good. I mostly don't care much for gachas for new IP because it's just gambling for characters I don't know in a story I have no confidence in. I still play Millennium War Aigis after all these years just because it's a tower defense that I can stop playing for months at a time and come back and I like those.

Kill allo gachatroons

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>>738766594
yeah

>>738766594
Yes. Maintenance is fun.

I'm maintaining my account until the next Canto is released, yes.
Do you have any other equally profound statements to make?

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I actually like the gameplay of my gacha
I will never say it has good gameplay though because it would be improved a hundredfold gameplaywise if it wasn't attached to gacha monetization

>>738767517
>"Yes, I'm retarded. Anything else?"

No thanks. You may leave.

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>>738767640
Impressive.

i've yet to play a gacha with good gameplay, and i've played a ton of gacha since they're basically the MMOs of this generation. i guess it's inevitable since they're made solely for profit, but the gameplay is always too dumbed down, simple, stat grindy slop. vanilla wow is unironically more interesting gameplay wise and that's one of the most overrated games of all time

I love gachas, gachas love me
Logging in today, logging in tomorrow
Pulled my waifu, now it's time to pull my peepee

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>>738767789

>If I can convince more people that gachas are awful, they'll fail and companies will start making the games I want them to make.

>>738766594
Do many gacha players even care about actually playing these games?

>>738766594
yeah i consider it like treating a garden which i can't have because i live in a concrete pillar

>>738768483
you have to because 99% of the f2p income for gacha rolls you have in these games comes from doing weekly/daily/monthly missions

I have 50/50 fatigue

>>738769832
same, that's why im happy NTE doesnt have it

>>738766594
Yup.
Dropped wuwa when I didn't have fun anymore. Why ask?

I have a gambling addiction

>>738771850
>cool gacha game

>>738766594
Give me anime waifus with factorio gameplay that isn't gacha. You can't.

>>738771919
Perhaps it takes place in a tundra.

>>738766594
The only gacha I've spent any amount of time on is Blue Archive, and the only parts of it that I like are the VN parts. The gameplay, I do my best to skip or ignore.

>>738766594
I still won't play your dei hire wokeslop made by indians SAAR

>>738766594
>nooo you cant consoom this thing you must consoom that thing!

>>738766594
No one has fun playing a gacha and if they say they do they're lying and are just addicted to the gambling

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>>738766594
yes NO

>>738767517
My "maintenance" consists of making modules and logging off, or doing 1 MD run on a weekend unless an event is going on.

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Why do /v/ pretend that you can only play gacha and only gacha, and not anything else in between?

>>738766594
holy fuck...... XD

dailies take 5 mins, over 2 games thats 10 mins per day its legit nothng

>>738772682
anon your luxcavations?

>>738768085
if only

>>738766594
I think a lot of it stems from how gameplay in these games actually is. They release content, you do content, you run out of content. When there's no content to do, you do dailies and weeklies instead. To my knowledge, there are no gacha games that have a "match" style gameplay where you do a mission or something simply for the gameplay as you would a game such as, say, DRG or Darktide. You're always doing stuff that can be exhausted for rewards or is on a timer.

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Gacha is kino

>>738766594
Yeah. I like the story and play it when it comes out and I play the endgame modes when I feel like it. It's nice when my friends aren't around to play and it gives me something to talk about with them when they're too busy to play.

You just need to break your FOMO fixations. There are too many games in the world to play them all or even to play all of some individual games. So you should play the parts that you find fun and accept that you'll miss some stuff sometimes. As long as we live there's still more to do in countless different games, so we should be more focused on having fun in the time we play then doing things optimally or perfectly.

>all these subhumans defending gacha
the absolute state...

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>>738766594
Not daily but the main story is decent for WuWa. I only play ZZZ as a chinese learning tool, the story sucks but the gameplay is alright.

>>738773163
>chinese learning
pathetic

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>>738773054
You don't think I can see you and what you're doing.
That's almost cute.

I wonder who is really worse, people who play games you don't like or people who cry about other people playing games they don't like.

Video games have no future as long as gacha slop exist.

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>>738773201
I'm ethnically Chinese and can speak pretty good Cantonese. I've been going to China once a year recently for relatives so I actually have a use it.

>>738773202
you can enjoy the game without defending an inherently evil system that prey on gambling addicted young men

gachas fund real video games to be made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KhfTpQIVnw

>>738773330
I can enjoy the game enough to recognize that anyone "gambling addicted" to actually fall prey to one of these games had such room temperature IQ that I could never trust them not to waste their money anyway.

>>738766975
>Retard does not know how to take a screenshot
Back to r3ddit with you

>>738773346
Literally look like a mobile game lmao

>>738766594
No, which is why I stopped playing Genshin after a month and never even touched another gacha.

>>738772690
Garchomp is so cool...

>>738773330
I've been playing gacha games for years on a subscription based model. I pay $5 a month and that gets me enough premium currency to get like 75% of the characters provided I do the needful (events and dailies).

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>>738766594
I only stick with things i care for.
I started dozens of gacha games, and only really stuck with a handful of them. If i didn't like what they offer, i would simply drop them.

>>738773374
we can make fun of both retarded victims and this very flawed system

>>738772690
What, expecting logical and reasonable thinking from this place? Don't be silly,

>>738773330

You could also just not cry like a bitch but here we all are.

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Why yes, I do play gachas

>>738772690
Prove it

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>>738766594
Yes, otherwise i wouldn't play it.

>>738773579
you are the one that cries defending your overlord company gacha though

>>738773330
The wonderful part about calling something inherently evil is that you can pretend that its some self-demonstrating fact and that opposing it is your moral obligation.

In argumentation, that is called 'begging the question'. And you do it for gacha games because they're popular and you get more attention for it. If you really cared about people being exploited by corporations for their weak wills and mathematics skill, you'd be campaigning against internet gambling; that doesn't even give you a jpg or a jiggly anime girl model to stare at on your phone.

But that's right, you're the hero. You're here to save the pitiful otaku masses from themselves and their evil, evil games.

Thank you for your hard work, but really you don't have to.

>>738766594
I don't understand why gacha is so volatile for people. I pick up any game that catches my eyes the same way I pick up any traditional video game. I play as much as I like, sometimes I'll just run through the story of a game that I hear has a good one and then drop it once I've caught up and gotten satisfied. Like man, most gacha are so F2P friendly these days. You reroll for a good start if it even matters, and then you just save to pity before you roll again. Maybe spend on a deal here and there if there's something you want the same way you would any other game. I don't log in to collect dailies unless I'm going to be playing the game anyways and I stop playing whenever I'm bored of it.

Feels like gacha conversations are always wildly complicated for no good reason.

>>738766594
Had that gacha period in my life already.
Sick of the FOMO events and characters, I'm moving on
I still jerk off to the characters tho

>"it's gambling"
>You are literally guaranteed to get any character with proper planning and saving

>"it's just PNGs"
>Most of them are highly detailed 3D models with better animations than 95% of games out there

>"there's no gameplay"
>Most of them have gameplay that is far more active than yet another indie 2D platformer or AAA 3D walking simulator where you literally can't lose

The people who come into these threads to whine about gachas have very clearly never played one before. Their "knowledge" of the genre is what they were like 10 years ago.
They're bad faith actors who actually only hate the games because they have sexy women in them, because their made in China/Korea, or because their ignorance runs so deep that they really do believe those things, even though none of them are true anymore.

>>738773779
Many people feel pressured to achieve some imaginary standard of "doing all the content" in a game. Gachas cause this type of person to have an aneurysm if even one of the time limited or gambling based things registers as "content" to them.

>>738773726
Imagine typing all this seethe to defend million dollar corporations for chemically addicting midwits

>>738766594
No which is why I can never make it past a month. MMOs, gacha games, and live service games feel life a fucking chore or job

>>738774051
>chemically addicting
I didn't know they were teleporting drugs into their players' houses.

I think it's funny how when asked what they like about gachashit most people will say the characters, but when asked what features they want added people will all say the ability to skip the gameplay. niggas spend real life money rolling for characters that they will never see outside of an inventory menu because they don't actually look at the screen when they're "playing" the game.

>>738774081
Most of them hook you with the characters. Simple emotional manipulation, you want to keep playing because of the attachment. So if they don't appeal to you, most likely you won't stick around.

>>738774179
I think those people are retards too.
I play two gachas.

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>>738774234
This could all be gacha games

>>738766594
Dailies are what killed gachashit for me
Not even 50/50 or lack of content
Dropped everything and no gachashit will ever be able to redeem in my eyes, no amount of coom, gameplay or whatever else kino will ever redeem them
Hopefully one day, they are banned as well in whole Europe

>>738774051
Ah, you chose 'seethe'. Cope would have been better. Seethe suggests anger, while cope would have suggested delusion which is easier to imply.

I don't have to imagine it, you retard. I wrote it. You should find a better hobby than pretending to be a moron on the internet; you have no talent for it.

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>>738774252
Most recent

>>738774295
You're alright for a gachafag

>>738774268
How hard is it to play for 2 minutes?

>>738774271
Stfu nigger and stop playing on semantics
You're seething right now, imbecile, otherwise you wouldn't even answer
>Fucking retards thinking they are smart
Translate this, negro
Prostul dacă nu-i fudul nici nu-i stă bine

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>>738774331
It's not about the 2min, it's about being forced to do so, otherwise you are unable to afford the characters that are time gated, it's a predatory, extremely predatory method, that I absolutely started to loathe

>>738772690
That's normally how it goes though. When I was playing gacha that's all I was doing. These games (especially Hoyo but basically all of them now) are designed in such a way a to make you feel like you're just doing some dailies, but in reality you are spending your entire time on them. You don't really play anything else.

The exception is auto battlers like gfl2 or BA, but even on those you are spending 2 hours every single day "maintaining". It's a waste.

>>738774401
If I didn't want to play for a bit every day I would be playing other games.

>I hate gacha!
>then don't play it
Why does this cause so much anger

>>738774346
It's too late to break out the nigger now chief. Amateurs should practice off the stage.

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>>738773854
>You are literally guaranteed to get any character with proper planning and saving
You mean demo version of character with like 3/4 of their functionality disabled?

>Most of them are highly detailed 3D models with better animations than 95% of games out there
Bouncy titties and sparkly effects, waow

>Most of them have gameplay that is far more active than yet another indie 2D platformer or AAA 3D walking simulator where you literally can't lose
Funny how you try to reach the bottom to find something to compare your shit to. Still, MMO skill rotation fest is hardly more engaging than your average 2D indie platformer.

>They're bad faith actors who actually only hate the games because they have sexy women in them, because their made in China/Korea, or because their ignorance runs so deep that they really do believe those things, even though none of them are true anymore.
I hate them because they're FOMO simulators that try to drag you in with constant participation rewards that usually eclipse anything you get from active engagement. Why would I want to play a game where over 90% of time in it consists of going through exact same inane actions on repeat like a script?

>>738774429
Not everyone has your tolerance but the dailies are the daily drops of fatigue, after a certain point the glass will overflow
Not everyone is vocal like me and will explain you why they dropped gachashit, but that's the reason the majority of people drop it, the dailies

>>738774346
not gonna lie mate you got fucking destroyed, pack it up

>>738774427
No the fuck it isn't. Stop projecting your mental illness on everyone else. You wound up playing gachas and only gachas the moment you gave them a chance because you are a retard.

>>738774401
I see you must play ch*nese slop.

>>738774427
Sometimes dailies in BA takes even more time because of events and raids
>inb4 but you don't have to do those especially the ones that don't give you premium currency
yeah but you still need skill up materials and shit, and obviously you want to level up the characters that you get so you can actually use them.

>>738774490
Yes, and everyone who drops gacha over "fatigue" generated by dailies was a retard who didn't enjoy the game in the first place and thus shouldn't have been playing.
You're only "fatigued" by the gameplay if you aren't enjoying it.

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>>738773580
>Why yes, I do play gachas

Gacha subhuman want to kill video games. They want every games to become mobile F2P slop full of MTX.

Always tell gacha niggers to kill themselves when possible.

I have gacha anti fatique

>>738774642
I play both gachas and non-gacha games. Your mentally ill fearmongering schizo shit means nothing. Kill yourself.

>>738774085
>What is a dopamine loop
You look exactly like those boomers pulling the slot machines rn, every bit as oblivious

>>738774179
There's an actual good reason for this one honestly. Gacha grind is actually the same thing as an MMO grind. It's something you do between actual content. It's not a barrier to waifu pandering episodes, it's a barrier to higher end content. In reality people will like, devote hours straight to asynchronous PVP events like Granblue Guild Wars or sit around and optimize the fuck out of their runs in Gakuen Idolm@ster and shit, but the ability to do this is gated by things like reaching the max level, collecting crafting materials so that you're in the right "gear".

When people ask for skips, people on the outside think they're saying they want to skip all the gameplay but what they're saying is that they don't want to do 2 hours of dailies every day for materials.

>>738774724
You are the minority every gacha tards I know irl only play gacha like the retarded monkey they are.

>>738774748
All addictions to anything other than substances are based on dopamine.

>>738774515
You can lie to yourself all you want, but the reality is there. Gachas are all designed to be engaging in moment to moment gameplay (this includes menus) in order to successfully make you not realize that all you're doing is busywork for hours.

Not to mention the amount of time wasted shitposting about the game on various generals (also by design). You probably don't even factor that in.

>>738774592
Yes. People will pretend like you can blitz all dailies in 5 minutes because they've done it once. I've done that a few times but in reality you're not doing that because it nets you little of value. In reality you're doing the dailies, and the gear grind, and various optional content, AND the """endgame""" raids or what have you, and the web events etc. All facilitated by various community incentives to keep you hooked.

>>738774782
>every gacha tards I know irl
sure you are

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>>738766594
Yes, it's the closest I ever get to feeling happy. I'd play more if they weren't using AI or chinese.

>>738774574
All gachashit is slop, at least Chinese slop had some eye candy, Japanese gachashit is a total joke, why do you think it was niche for ages? Until the chinks pretended to make a game to attract retards like me? I see PNGs, I assume trash, a somewhat degree of production quality has a different impact, but it can only last for so long

>>738774601
Nice gaslighting here but your mental gymnastics don't work on me

>>738774825
If it takes you hours anytime you try to engage with a gacha even a little bit, you are retarded. Slow. Mentally disabled. If you wind up regularly doing "hours" of "busywork" at any point without noticing, that isn't the game's fault, it's yours.

>unironic SEA dicklet defending their degenerate gacha habit
You're not fooling anybody

>>738774914
>It's not the fault of predatory design, it's your fault for falling for it
The gaslighting is offcharts

>>738774894
>I'm supposed to enjoy the gameplay before I decide to devote time to a game? Stop gaslighting me!!! It's the game's fault that I did a bunch of shit I didn't like in the first place for characters that don't make the gameplay any better!!!!!

>>738774914
I don't because I do not play gachas.

>>738774963
You're just arguing in bad faith and you're giving gachashit players a bad reputation as well with this behaviour as well

>>738774962
>open one menu and get overwhelmed by the sight of more than five numbers at once
>spend hours blindly fumbling around
>WTF PREDATORY DESIGN MAKE THIS STOP REEEEE

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>>738766594
>spend 5 minutes a day doing dailies
>have fun with the new patches that release every 6 weeks
yeah. logging in and burning battery isn't some herculean task that you make it out to be.

>>738774995
Whatever mental illness you have that makes you feel somehow obligated to play a game you aren't enjoying, I hope you're taking something from it.

>>738775000
You're gaslighting
You're literally making up fake scenarios so you can win the internet argument against a retard on 4chin
I said plainly, dailies killed gachashit for me
And look at you, creating literal novels in your head about my supposed difficulty to navigate gachashit menus, when I never once mentioned it
Gachashit players are really something else

I just refund Crimson Desert and spend on gacha instead!

Microchores

>>738775036
I said I dropped gachashit because of dailies
Where in your sick mind I can keep playing? Or your mind is so sick and mentally ill that that concept of dropping gachashit doesn't even exist so your unconscious is creating a similar scenario where I do still play but do not enjoy it?
If it's bait, it's high quality and I kneel to you sir because I keep biting but if that's what gachashit players truly think, holy kek

>>738775097
What you said was that you unintentionally spend hours doing busywork when you try to play gachas. That isn't part of "dailies". In no universe can "dailies" lead to accidentally spending hours in menus if you aren't severely disabled.

>>738775236
Nope lol
I never wrote those words, it's you putting them in my mouth

>>738775220
>I said I dropped gachashit because of dailies
Dailies are only negative if you don't enjoy the game in the first place and are forcing yourself to play. I understand that you no longer play, but the time you did spend on gachas was you forcing yourself to participate in something you had no natural draw to.

>>738775286
>I didn't say it happened to ME, I'm just defending a post that said playing gachas inherently makes you unable to play other games because they steal all your time with hours of busywork
Read the reply chain. >>738774825
If this didn't happen to you, then you are making up shit in your head.

>>738775313
This is my last reply to (you), not amount of shaming and gaslighting and bitching will make people return to gachashit.
Have a good day Saar.

>>738775382
Ah that wasn't me lol
That's another anon, ask the AI to analyse the writing pattern and will confirm it's two different people

>>738775385
I'm telling you that you shouldn't have played it in the first place. Not that you should come back to something you hate. Faggot.

>>738766594
Yes, why would I play it if it wasn't fun?

>>738775421
Okay then. Why are you replying to defend that anon if you don't agree with their point and instead want to accuse me of gaslighting for thinking you do?

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Red archive soon

I quit Star Rail and started Limbus Company. It was a good decision since Limbus has a better story and doesn't waste your time.

>>738766975
mmos were basically interactive chatrooms

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>>738766594
Gachas are just modern day MMOs, and neither are Video Games.

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>>738766594
>why log in?
The moment a gachanigger starts asking himself this is the moment he's starting to come back to his senses.
Gachashit is trash and will never be video games, I hold even MMOfags in higher regard.

>>738774914
That's rich coming from a gachanigger.

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>>738766594
Nah, most of the time I drop them. I'm not cut on FOMO, events, weeklys, etc. I like to play vidya at my own pace.

>>738776532
I'd like to be the sheath to her sword if you know what I'm saying.

>>738772690
Many anons are just don't understand that you can enjoy more than one thing at time

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Why do uncs seethe so much over gacha? Why do they seethe so hard about it they have to make daily threads over it? Do you even have fun shitting yourself over gacha every single day?

>>738780258
because you are perpetuating a system of self-rape. you are cucked, and mindbroken by chink skinnerbox shit. why wouldnt we push back? and why is your low iq disgusting habit now a part of your identity?

>>738772690
Just like mmos, gacha attracts a particular kind of gamer who only plays gacha. It's not that deep, bro.

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The only gacha i play anymore is trickcal
it's got me to drop every other gacha i played
it's the best one

>>738766594
I try the occasional gacha bur my rule if if it feels like work I drop it.

the worst thing in gaming is when a game i typically really like has me doing tasks/chores for aspects of the game i dont like-- especially whne it's post-release. like with tarkov or warframe. i still sort of like these, but they just kept piling on chores and forcing certain playstyles... let me be me pelase.
or a battlepass or progression system with great/necessary rewards, but you have to jump through hoops to finish it-- you cant just fucking play. most recently, this was battlefield 6
im so sick of this shit.

>>738780737
oh right-- my point was: playing a game that revolves entirely around thsi would make me want to kms. gachaniggers are something else

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>>738773602
Finished Fate/Extra CCC yesterday and started a Nero run.

>>738766594
this is the problem with all games with dailies
ironically, WoW doesn't have this issue anymore despite starting the trend

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I like mahjong
I play it whenever I want
Ichihime is already best girl

>>738773854
Most 3d gacha models are shit
Animated sprites are better desu

>>738772690
You very well know gacha fans only play gacha. Everyone knows this and they don't hide it, they're in fact proud about it.

>>738766594
You could say the same for any live service game, not just gachas. That includes mmos, any game with a battle pass, building/survival games on public servers where you have to check on your base, any game that tries to keep engagement by having time limited FOMO events...

>>738766594
God no...

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can't imagine playing any other gacha game that isn't zenless

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>>738766594
Yes
I like looking at cute things for 10 minutes and reading a silly story once a week
Then I start playing my real videogames like Monster Hunter or exploring large Gmod maps

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>>738767639
This

You gambling addicts are so insecure because deep down you know the gambling app you wasted time and money on is garbage

Kill all gacha macaco subhumans

>>738785397
>>738785531
Opening Zenless right now to do my dailies. You guys just finished dailies too huh?

>>738785649
>He's bragging about doing his chores
No thanks I'll play actual video games thank you

>>738766594
I'd play more games and quit them less often if it wasn't for dailies. Whats wrong with just having events? Why do i need to log in every single day to any game i play? It just becomes a boring chore.

>>738780258
>unironically praising the homomeru desert slop
Revisionism if I ever saw it lmao.

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Login in for 2 minutes every day after reading my VN monthly event is all i asked for.

>>738772690
>I don't just play shameless gacha games, I play shameless pokemon asset flips too

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I like CZN (chaos zero nightmare)
It has actual gameplay

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I have fun looking at my wife everyday.

>>738772690
Average gachanigger has 10 of them installed and does nothing else but grind dalies on rotation.

I only play limbus so it's 5 minutes a day + 30 minutes every week until i wait for more story
Meanwhile i'm grinding like a job on a kmmo, and still having fun

>this nigger spamming his video again
buy an ad

>>738766594
I play Wuwa and Limbus.
I do enjoy wuwa gameplay and exploration since the presentation is nice and Limbus doesn't really need daily maitenance, more like hour a week and story is nice so i stick to them.

This video is probably by someone who play multiple gachas. I can see myself logging everyday for 10 minutes to wuwa to get currency even if I sometimes don't have a drive to play it but I can't imagine doing it for like 3-4+ games

>>738766594
Trickcal gameplay is kinda ass desu but I only need to log in once/twice a day and the stories are pretty nice
Also the minigames are cool

I think a lot of the American whinging over gambling is leftover protestant guilt over viewing it as a sin.

>>738766975
This kills the MMOtroons

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>>738766594
>you're not actually having fun
>source: me

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>>738766594
I PLAY NIKKE FOR THE STORY!!!
The story:

>>738788179
No? Where the fuck you got that?
At best most have max 3 installed. A main game and side stuff. And i know this because i've literally asked in monthly revenue threads.

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>you are having wrong fun!
>you are mentally ill!
>me crying about it everyday? that's perfectly healthy

>>738766594
Arknights is one of the best strategic games on the market and this includes non gacha games as well.
Anyone denying it is a coping buzzword throwing faggot that either never tried it or did everything using support units and guides which beats the purpose of solving a stage on your own.

>>738766594
>You are x, not y
>3 word on thumbnail
It's a chat gpt script read by eleven labs slop time.

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>>738766594
Yeah, it's cute and satisfies the "number go up" part of my brain.

>>738792864
>New stages with a new gimmick come out
>Coincidentally a character that works really well with the gimmick comes out
Yeah, strategy

>>738766594
why live I'm only maintaining an existence

I log into gacha games to accrue the free currency so that I can get the next character to experience any semblance of new gameplay
And then I repeat

>>738793128
As a new player, by the time you get to those stages that require very specific units, you already played months and months of a very good FREE strategy game. Unless you are a subhuman that plays games 20 hours a day and not read the story in between stages, then I guess you can reach the endgame much faster.
Anyways, dishonest argument. And again, you can always recruit a support unit that you need if you REALLY need a specific gimmick.

started playing Endfield last month
definitely hit the "maintenance" wall already
just logging in everyday to jump through the same couple of hoops

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Gaming is hea-ACK

>>738794309
it is now

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>>738774592
I can only vouch for BA, but it genuinely takes me 15-25 minutes if I take it slow on most days.
You do:
>cafe
>lessons
>club
>shopping
>scrimmage
>bounties
then you do whatever is best at that time. If it's an event, and it just came out, you have to spend 30 minutes to an hour, since you have to do like 20 stages and then do the last 3 again to get the best bonuses, but that's only on the first day, afterwards you can just sweep, and it takes you less than 5 minutes.
If there's a raid, it depends.
Grand Assault you can just hold until the last day and do three raids, which means only that day takes up more time.
Total Assault means you have to do one battle before sweeping every day. I don't sweat, I do extreme, and I'm not suffering from it, I always hit gold.
Drills are weird, but I make them work by doing the first stage once (not even three teams) just to sweep the 3 tickets and get the premium reward for doing it.
The best thing about BA is that it lets you sweep almost everything in the game with no consequences.
I have enough for 6 sparks (not counting tickets), and more than enough items to level up skills since you get those from the daily routine that I described (and the events)

gachatranny goycattle humiliation ritual general

I used to play Genshin since I liked the exploran, but eventually dropped it since keeping up with the new content started feeling more like a job than fun. I also hated how the game never reran old events, even ones that included new character introductions and important story. Nod Krai especially got bad with fucktons of characters and constant references to storylines I've never experienced.

Blue Archive is neat even though it's extremely simple. The dailies are also quick to do, and metafagging is next to pointless anyways. I just treat it as a long-running VN.

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This could've been prevented

>>738766594
I have fun maintaining my quality of life instead.

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>>738772690

>>738800886
whats the point of making AI slop black and white?

>>738799153
Are people really giving snobble bad reviews because they were forced to censor things recently?

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>>738766594
I had fun consistently keeping up with PSO2 from 2016 before NGS fucked everything up. Dailies shouldn't be that bad, but SAOFD's aren't as soul-crushing as logging into HSR or WuWa for like 10 minutes. Although it doesn't have characters to roll for or FOMO, just building an inventory for strengthening characters I got on purchase since D1. Maybe it's something like a sense of community or whatever in multiplayer games vs kinda needing to do this so that I can roll for an upcoming character. Maybe it's the growing realisation that time isn't as wide as it was when I was in high school. I should just suck it up and finish Amphoreus so that I can finally cast aside HSR because it truly is worthless.
...right after I get Bladie 2.
Maybe my heart is just not in it, too, you know? It's probably autism but actual games don't give me a feeling of restrainment.

>>738780419
Deep breaths sis

>>738792732
KEKW

>>738803307
that was fast

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>>738766594

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>>738801701
More people need to be doing POV VR ZZZ porn!

>>738766594
Yeah
sometimes I find it hard to do some of the events for the rewards, but I'm still having fun most of the time.

>>738767236
What's with all the overlap between gigachad and fly memes?

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I'm having fun

>>738805962
WHY WON'T YOU DIE?

>>738780258
>Why do uncs seethe so much over gacha
Because this is developer effort that could be going into actual videogames rather than subhuman chore simulator gambling addict maximum retention skinnerboxes. Holy shit fuck you so much.

>>738807569
actual video games like...?

>>738807690
like fucking one-time purchase complete games but your greedy asses have seduced every single developer into live service gachashit FUCK YOU

>>738773326
>I'm ethnically Chinese
my condolences

>>738807771
>one-time purchase complete games
such as...?

>>738807852
Point at a non-gacha non-f2p and you’ll probbaly hit an example, zoomie. Your nightmarish chore simulators are just a condensed form of MMO rot.

is Warframe a gacha? i think i login everyday like a cuck i dont even play the fucking game anymore

>>738808243
all modern games are incomplete and try to shove dlc down your throat
I'm asking you about complete games because I haven't seen any in a long time

Wuwa has pretty fun gameplay desu, i enjoy tactical hologram boss fights
i dont really do dailies or other endgame shit, i just play the story which is pretty decent, do the map and just fuck around

>>738808334
So just any game without day 1 DLC? Because post release expansions are fine as long as they aren’t clearly crowbarred out to be sold later. E33’s only dlc was fucking outfits, silksong had no day 1 dlc, Elden Ring had none and the eventual expansion was kind of bad and completely unconnected to anything, hell even bad games everyone hates frequently release complete without DLC. I bet Dustborn, Relooted, and Mixtape all have no DLC except maybe a spundtrack.

>>738808280
Yes, and just like a gacha there are no endgame challenges worth talking about, just grinds to grind future grinds to grind future grinds. Warframe is an awful game.

>>738808946
You're making excuses for dlc, so you're in no way different from a gacha player

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I only played yugioh and i dont care about maintaing my account i only grind when theres a new fun deck

>>738766594
And you're maintaining your life Anon, not living it.

>>738809068
very true, kinda over it

>>738809032
The only one I mentioned that had day 1 DLC of any sort was fucking E33. Gacha locks the entire game progression system behind lootboxes, some cosmetics day 1 aren’t nearly so grand a sin.

>>738809152
You're still making excuses for not shipping a complete game day 1

>>738808280
>>738809025
Warframe is just GaaS, isn't it? Gacha refers to the gambling-like rolling and unlock system, whereas "games as a service" is a superordinate term that includes both gacha and other online games that try to rope you in to keep playing daily while releasing new content over time.

>>738767772
>i've yet to play a gacha with good gameplay,
ZZZ and WuWa
>"b-b-but it's just 2 buttons and an ult"
You didn't play the game

>>738809190
Alright, then discard e33 entirely. You still have every other game I mentioned.

>>738809221
There are gacha systems within warframe in which you grind keys to roll on frame parts and gear.

>>738809281
Your point has been made, this isn't a court of law there are no takebacks
You're defending the current state of gaming
You deserve gachas and have no right to shit on them

>>738772795
Autocomplete spammed whenever I run out of xp tickets
I have enough thread to last decades

>>738773652
>currently working to S3 my 'yuki
First time really pulling for dupes and I gotta say it's AWFUL. I do not recommend it. But once I S3 her I'll be happy

>>738809379
No, we established a point at which you were fine, and I showed several games that fit your criterion. You just desperately need to defend gacha.
>you deserve gachas
I don’t buy cosmetics. I don’t play MMOs. I am immune to your dogshit games and their addiction systems.

>>738809532
Lick the big companies' big boots some more buddy

>>738809589
I don’t need to, you’ve already spit-shined them before the thought crossed my mind.

>>738809631
>n-no u
Nice comeback
If you're 9 years old

>>738786235
Sumeru desert was incredible. It had a greater sense of discovery than most of Genshin honestly with its vast underground caves.

Honestly, it felt like what Tomb Raider should've been.

>>738809676
>still replying
Go slave your dailies, I’m done with you

>>738766594
Yeah, ZZZ is unironically fun and I look forward to logging in every day.

>>738809710
Nobody is forcing you to stay here

>>738809589
>Calling someone else a bootlicker while defending gacha companies
god that's sad

>>738808334
yes because your gacha cancer sucked the developer pool dry

>>738809805
Point out where that happened

>>738766594
No. But when you go online then see how fucking rich you are compared to others because you have what they want? Yes. It's like being better than people at games even without playing games.

>>738809836
if a developer is only good enough to make gachas they wouldn't be able to make a good game anyway so good riddance

>>738809227
Spamming movement utility to make it look like there's more going on doesn't add depth. Those games are shallow trash

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>>738766594
The only gacha I enjoy playing is ZZZ.
Some others I occasionally return to for major story updates but I don't bother with dailies.

>>738766594
I must play so that I can say she's just like me frfr about Silver Wife

>>738766594
Yes. I stop playing gachas which are no longer interesting to me. GFL1, AL, Genshin

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>>738809427
I haven't bothered as i know i'd lose every 50/50

>>738766594
>Do you even have fun playing your gachas?
No, which is why i deleted it and curse the fags here who tricked me into trying it

>>738766594
I wouldn't play it if it wasn't fun.
I would anyone recommend
Genshin if you like Zelda:botw free edition
Fire Emblem Heroes for weekly new strategy maps
I lost my login when my phone died for Idolmaster Cinderella Girls: Starlight Stage but i had way too much fun in that rythm game.
If you are whaling it's your own fault, the games are still fun.

>>738810430
nice tummy but I will never slave myself to a gacha game

>>738766594
I've never tried gachas because they aren't games

>>738766594
>both videos are him sucking off gacha games while listing their problems(addicting, unfun, and they feel like a chore etc)
>"how i decided to cut 2 out of my 5 gacha games :^)"
Literal addict lmao, gachacucks deserve no respect and should be humiliated wherever they go

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Uma sucks because runs take an hour and I get 1* guts at the end of it

>>738766594
gachafags deserve death
>>738766975
mmofags deserve death

>>738809337
You're showing your age gramps
We get relics outright now and crack those open.

>>738799153
China is just gay like that.

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>>738766594
not really, i only play one for my wife

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>>738773054
imagine the average gachashit 20 years ago, the oblivion horse armor was enough to make anons mad
we are living in hell and it will only get worse, the worst part is that the average person in 202x really is cattle, we are slaves

>>738814495
I think there's a hard limit and we might already be seeing a change with some companies like Sega announcing they're pivoting out of GaaS. Regardless of the potential financial gains and all the shitty ways you can nickle-and-dime customers, ultimately there's a limited number of players with a limited amount of time and disposable income. The line can't go up forever. People who like these games are going to veer towards a few popular titles that manage to stay alive and turn a profit, and can therefore churn out new content, whereas GaaS titles that don't manage to capture an audience simply bomb. Meanwhile indie and AA will keep providing once-and-done games for regular players, and even AAA will be forced to rein their greed if they want to get their piece of the cake.

>>738814495
A better example is how Xbox was shunned and laughed at for making a digital console, even by their rivals.

Look at where we are now. Look at where THEY are now.

>>738809032
DLC and microtransactions are what allows devs to continue working on the game and for you to play more of the same game. It's a net positive.