When did Pokémon truly fall off?
Sun and moon for me
>>738767657the correct answer is gen 6the definitive answer is gen 8
>>738767657peaked aesthetically in Crystalpeaked overall with BW2immediately started going downhill with X/Y
Gen IV was peakGen V was assAll the extra "story" (aka banal dialogue to skip through), the casualization of the singleplayer campaign by making tms unlimited and gym leaders have small weak teams, the linearity, the lack of puzzles or interesting dungeons, the hideous stretching sprites, the new ugly monsters including 50 new legendaries (each one less memorable than the last), the soulless tacked on features like PWT or Pokestudios. New items like the shiny charm that encourage grinding. Horrible stinking dog shit top to bottom with no redeeming features whatsoever. And since online multiplayer was now the be all end all there was no reason to replay the game ever (not that anyone would want to)
>>738767657Gen 3 was the proto-dexit
>>738767657When it left Japan
>>738767657ftfy
>>7387676573D era generally
>>738767701Completely agree with this.More accurately;>GoodRBY, GSC, FRLG, BW, B2W2, HGSS>OkayRSE, DPPt>BadXY, SwSh>Worst game bar none, cant imagine any being worseSMI havent tried Ultra Sun/Moon due to how bad Sun and Moon were.
>>738767657After gen 2
>>738767741spbp
>>738767657Gen 5.Gen 7 being generous.
>>738767657it's tough because every era(except the 3DS) are good at specific things. the GB games had generally the best world design despite the lackluster type and stat implementations. the DS games are much better mechanically, but the world design isn't as good. The 3DS games are just stinky, and the switch games have really good PVP, at the cost of basically everything else. if you're just a casual pokemon fan, the second they went full 3D is when the games fell off for sure. tougher answer if you like pvp
>>738767657Gen 6 was a disaster
Anyone who doesn't agree that it peaked with Platinum/Heart Gold/Soul Silver is an idiot.Gen III was also a proto-Dexit salvaged by having the most diverse overworld.
everything after 151 was a mistake
>>738771626pffttthahaha emerald and platinum mog the fuck out of any johto dogshit and bw1
>>738767657Gen 6/thread
>>738767657Black/WhiteThe art style became painfully modern.
>>738767657When Ash lost to Richie
>>738767657Gen 3 is when I stopped liking the series as much.>no animated sprites in ruby/sapphire>no day/night cycle>annoying soundtrackI dont remember much about gen 4, I can't even remember which game I had.
>>738772070I don't value the opinion of idiots who didn't play red and blue at release
>>738772271>*LOUD H O R N NOISES*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_WkWaoBgNY
>>738767657>Last Generation that felt magical/nostalgicGen 3, would probably be Gen 2 but I am really fond of the Orre games>Last gen Gamefreak put passion intoGen 5>Last to even be playable Gen 7
>>738767657Pokemon was the best when you were 10Pokemon fell off when you grew out of it 5 years later
>>738768469This. It's a fucking game, let me play.
>>738772271Same. Overall Ruby/Saphire felt like a massive downgrade. I did play a bit of Pearl/Diamond and Sun/Moon but dropped off. Didn't bother with any other game.Recently I eventually play Scarlet/Violet because, on paper, it was basically how I imagined how pokemon should be as a child. I *almost* enjoyed it as I did Gen 1 and 2, with the major issues being the uglyass artstyle and the tons of talking, tutorials and messages, specially in the early game.
Gen 6XY was boring and could have really used used a ZOmega Ruby pissed me off so much it's the only game where I didn't even bother to refight the elite four and soured me on gen6 and all future titles completely. I pirated moon and that's the end of it.
>>738767741This is the correct answer. The progression in quality from 1-5 is fairly logical; the graphics, animations, and mechanics improve consistently with each entry. Gen 6 is when they started to realize that they can just do whatever they want and people will still buy it, Gen 8 is when put that theory into full force.
>>738767657all the games are dogshit at first they had the excuse theres only so much they could do with the gameboy but barely anything changed since then.
>>738767657>gen 3>set in japanWhy BWkids are always so fucking retarded, holy shit
>>738771626>Good>RBY, BW,
>>738773803I would say they did have something they were trying to do with gen 6. It's feature complete packed with new ideas. They just didn't seem to be able to fully realize what they were attempting to accomplish and it was never given its full development time like the other gens were with their third versions. They were working on new hardware in 3D for the first time, made the campaign end up lackluster.I believe all that is true for XY. But once Ohmori got behind the wheel that all went out the window. That nigga doesn't give a shit about the game he just wants to relive his childhood trauma.
>>738771803>the DS games are much better mechanically, but the world design isn't as good.Going through snow mountains in diamond was a definitive pokemon traveling experience, fucking bwkid
>>738773947Gen 3 is Kyushu, retard.
>>738773947lol dumbass
>>738773803>The progression in quality from 1-5 is fairly logical>removing pokedex and "catch them all" from the box>logical progression after gen2How to discard an opinion instantlyAlso> mechanics improve consistently with each entry.gen2->gen3gen4->gen5 would love to have a word with you
>>738767657
>>738774043>They just didn't seem to be able to fully realize what they were attempting to accomplish and it was never given its full development time like the other gens were with their third versions.This was the lie we were fed with gen 6 to accept how dogshit it was. Then with every subsequent gen they still cut content and didn't give us shit. They just completely gave up trying to develop decent games.
>>738767657it's too late to get into pokemon if i only watched the anime and never got a Nintendo console?
>>738775082SV is considered to be best pokemon game since gen2, so right now is pretty good time.
>>738767701sun and moon was the last good one imo
>>738775082No?Just go fetch a ds emulator and grab the sacred gold romhack, to enjoy the greatest pokemon experience ever created.Dont fuck around with any of the new shit, its all trash.
>>738775124By who?
>>738768469>the new ugly monsters including 50 new legendariesbut gen IV started this shit while also raping old Pokémon with shitty evolutions
>>738775224By people who actually play pokemon games instead of trying to cope on the internet why game that removed day/night cycle, all past pokemons, and shitton of other futures isn't a massive downgrade and was a "natural progression"
>>738767657Gen 5 was the first truly awful generation. However XY showed enough small improvements to suggest that maybe course correction was possible and Z could have been Emerald/Platinum tier. Instead we got ORAS which confirmed that the series would never be good again.
>>738775374I played all the games 100% and SV sucked
>>738767657XY was the sign that Gamefreak was starting to struggle with developing the games. It was also when they decided to go full Kanto pandering and introduce new gimmick evolutions meaning that certain Pokemon were now only good if the game they appeared in also featured their gimmick evolution.
>>738775351>raping old Pokémon with shitty evolutionsnta, but it was a mixed bag, some were indeed gawhd awful ie;>Rhyperior>Glaceon>LickylickyBut to me, the really good ones made up for that, and were much needed>Togekiss>Weavile>Honchkrow>Missmagius>Frosslass>Munchlaxare some of my all time favourite pokemans, and that fixed otherwise uninteresting lines (or lack thereof)
SV is the low point for Pokemon. A game that was barely held together when it first released. But the lizard is one of the best Legendary Pokemon they've made.
>>738767657>Gen 1Its gen 1>Gen 2A rehash, but a good one>Gen 3Threw the baby out with the bath water but is trying new things>Gen 4Still trying new stuff but its not really sticking>Gen 5It's not good, but they're trying>Gen 6It's bad, but they're trying>Gen 7It's bad and they're not even trying>Gen 8They have given up>Gen 9An attempt was made
>>738776220>Gen 2>A rehash, but a good one>Gen 5>It's not good, but they're tryingState of bwkids...
>>738774943I wasn't fed anything. Even at the time it released when I thought XY was putrid shit and it could never get worse than this I could see they just left some things unfinished, most blatantly being the things relating to the gen's mythicals. There were probably going to be events for them like previous games around the power plant and that big ass pink crystal that's pointed out to you then does nothing, but it never ended up happening.It was only backed up by seeing files in the teraleak where much more of the map was considered, but was too much to properly implement.They wanted you to be able to ride pokemon, but ended up having to settle for only having a couple set ones (gogoat, mamoswine). They attempted to further develop the battle mechanics with megas before Ohmori settled on a battle gimmick of the gen formula. They implemented the best online in the series with the PSS and the brilliant wondertrade. Berry growing was made into more of a legitimate farming thing. Plenty of minigames with amie and super training. I genuinely believe there was somewhere they wanted to go with this game, and were just unable to.It's a far cry from further entries where everything seems so shallow and done just because they have to. No whimsy, no adventure, no dungeons, nothing. The moment they handed the series to Ohmori was the moment it died.