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>>738770881
Its bad after edge of fate and STAR WARS. Only buy it if you are a approved bungshill
Play and buy D1 for the proper destiny experience (console only btw)

>>738771173
Thanks for the input, hence why I was asking for the cheap DLC pack.

I don't got a PS3 or 4 to play Destiny 1 though.

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>>738771232
>I don't got a PS3 or 4 to play Destiny 1 though
nta, but I wouldn't bother then. You're missing out on the best the franchise ever was. Not to mention you'll be getting an incomplete experience since they removed half of 2's content.

Imagine starting a book series at book 7, where books 1-3 are only printed in braille, and the publisher has recalled and burned every copy of books 4-6. That's Destiny.

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>>738771371
jesus anon

>>738771359
>the best the franchise ever was
D2 raids absolutely shit on D1 raids in every way.

>>738771419
>this one subset of endgame activities is the only direct improvement on the series first entry
Alright? Is that supposed to be some sort of gotcha? You realize that less than 30% of Destiny players ever play a raid anyways, right? Most just do strikes and crucible.

>>738770881
ngl I'd rather play Destiny 1. Destiny 2 is fucked, more than half the content is gone, you literally cannot play it

>>738771232
Get any xbox and iirc you don't need live to play D1. The second game really isn't worth your time, and you'll feel cheated for whatever time you do put in the game. Even if everything for D2 was free, the experience would not be worth the time.

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>>738771419

>D2's raids
stand on a plate

>>738771371
I got Marathon for free and didn't buy anything from Bungie ever lol.

>>738771419
Not even close. The D1 versions of every raid they ported to D2 are objectively better. The D2 specific raids are either complete aids, or glorified strikes. The best raids in D2 are D1 raids.

>>738771419
>the content no one does is the best content
wow, maybe they should of put that effort literally anywhere fucking else

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>>738771419
>D2 raids
>hurdur bosses and enemy's have a shitload of health and if you dont got any revive tokens you wipe lolololololol
>d1
>enemy's die quick but you also die fast encouraging movement and gunfighting to survive
>if 2 or more people die encounters are designed to be lowmanable leading to hero moments and saving the run
D1 design wise is just immensely better
Also d2 cosmetic rewards job to d1 rewards

>>738771478
That just means that 70% of the playerbase is fucking retarded.

>>738771528
The D1 versions are easier and thus automatically worse.
>>738771586
Maybe the retarded fucking players should play the relevant content of the game they play.
>>738771682
>encounters are designed to be lowmanable
That's bad design. You should wipe if you run out of revives.

>>738771682
>Also d2 cosmetic rewards job to d1 rewards
To be fair, those picrel cosmetics were added for each raid long after they were released at the end of the game's lifecylce. D2 has yet to have its final "Age of Triumph" update.
Also it pisses me off that they don't include ever class's getup in that picture. There's like no way for me to pick out what I want.

>>738771796
>you should wipe if you runnout of lives
Hell no. Destiny 2s playerbase is absolutely retarded especially after shadowkeep and they can't do shit when it comes to raids. You know whats actually bad design? Basing every raid with well of radiance in mind and designing encounters that force you to use it. Destiny 1 is superior because the raids are balanced for every team comp and will allow you to recover if skilled enough. Destiny 2 punishes you if you dont comply to forced loadout slop which is what killed the game btw

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>>738771682
>the hunter VOG armor gives you a fucking ROBOT GOBLIN LEG
absolute fucking cash money D1 was

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They should have ended D2 at Shadowkeep and made Beyond Light-Final Shape Destiny 3
change my mind

>>738771827
I could name some other stuff to that you could get before AOT. Glowing shaders like glowhoo were really nice and of course vog had chatterwhite which was a really good shader. Kingfall ascendant plane was pretty cool and kingsfall also had the taken shell. There were some pretty good cosmetics overall from the raids at the time before AOT

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I stopped playing during the episodes shitfest of Final Shape. It gets so tiring having the game flipped around every expansion release, I wanted to keep playing but couldn't do it anymore. Edge of Fate just doubled down on every issue the game had.

>>738770881
Agree with this anon >>738771359
But also the on boarding for new players sucks shit in destiny 2 as well, in part because they removed red war, it doesn't explain anything about how the game works to you in detail, not to mention the playerbase is pretty dead atm so you'd be unlikely to find anyone to help guide you through & explain shit. Playing d1 through d2 was genuinely great, but it's just not possible now and that's a damn shame.

>everyone hates grinding seasonal activities
>bungie removed any reason to do strikes/nightfalls etc
>made the primary method of grinding doing old seasonal activities through some shit called the hub

They did everything in their power to kill this game and now their studio is gonna die because of it.

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>>738772051
You know what fuck it ill go as far to say the reskinned sparrows are better than the average d2 raid sparrow
And ill also say this without a doubt the ships were also way better and cooler
Fucking hell I really miss the d1 esthetic so much

>>738771941
the warlock vog armor gives you 2 robot calves+feet
the titan vog armor gives you robot arms

>>738771827
Those cosmetics were added to D1 in year 3. D2 is on year 9 or 10 and has magic school girls, furries, and starwars skins.

>>738772240
yeah but those kinda just look/feel like standard armor pieces
the hunter leg looks like you actually got your leg blown off by the Templar and ripped one off a goblin and welded it to yourself midraid. So fucking cool

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>>738772341
The cloak was also cool
Take me back please

Imagine if bungie spent their effort on remastering destiny 1 for PC instead of whatever the fuck marathon is.

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>>738772581
Bungie will never
Best we can hope for is Sony melting Bungie HQ down and giving a Destiny 1 port's development to Bluepoint.
oh wait...

>>738772581
Bungie hates the work and effort vicarios visions put into destiny 1 especially with rise of iron considering they made a whole season in destiny 2 to shit on siva and certify that "siva is dead" and just rewrote the story in the way they wanted just so they could never do siva again but you know lets just ignore the fact that they literally bring back characters or shit from the dead because why the fuck not
Bungie needs to go under

Oh yeah i forgot about that
>d2 doesnt bring back all of the raid weapons that dropped from the d1 raids
Bunch of lazy hacks

id like to play destiny 2 again but i have no one to play it with

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A weapon so based they couldn't figure out how to fix it.

>>738771925
>which is what killed the game btw
Them soft sunsetting 9/10ths of the game is what killed it. If this upcoming june update was in the game at the launch of edge of fate the player base would not have tanked this bad

>>738771508
>the first raid has stand on a plate
what did he mean by this?

>>738770881

Hopefully Sony kills it. Game was toast ever since that retard luke smith said they had a 10 year plan for D2 specifically, not the franchise.

>>738773010
let's play anon

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>>738773124
There is no new player experience, or a returning player experience. It's like playing a gacha game, leaving for a couple of months and coming back to find out new characters that are now a part of the main story had an introductory chapter that was a limited time event you can never play again and several key characters from the story died. If you start the game now it literally leapfrogs years; Ikora is pissed at you for no reason, the city shifts drastically, there are references to characters that are no longer accessible, entire portions of the story just happen in the background and you lose like more than half of Debra Wilson's story including the possession shit and the entire city's civilian factions engaging in civil war with the guardians..

you can't even defend that, imagine coming into a game late and after finishing the tutorial you just straight up find out more than half of the game has already been played for you and you can't go back and review anything beyond some shitty cliff notes hidden in a tab behind some mobile-first UI.

>>738770881
Anyone got the DLC pack still? Would be great.

>>738772491
>>738772341
>>738772240
>>738771941
>>738771682
Reminder that a laid off Bungie employee revealed nealry a year ago that you don't have high effort rewards like the Age of Triumph gear or Trials ornaments in Destiny 2 because leadership wanted earnable rewards to be less appealing so it wouldn't cut into Eververse sales.

I gave Destiny 2 three chances. First was when it was ported to Battle.net. Second was Shadowkeep. Third was Witch Queen. Witch Queen was supposed to be the a "good" expansion but it still felt just as terrible as the rest of the game. If that's the best Destiny can offer then Destiny was never a good franchise.
Also to you lorefags out there. If your story needs external sources "just to make sense" then it's a bad story.

Ultimately, i cant. I mean if you really want to experience destiny then youre better off playing destiny 1 because every piece of that game was perserved despite it being a always online game.

Destiny 2 on the other hand? Its really fucked up and fragmented, there is zero consistency and they managed to make a game that doesnt really have a proper foundation. A lot of the content is just legacy stuff at this point, and the strongest aspects like gear and crafting were completely gutted and abandoned for their new gear tier system which EVERYONE hated. Even the map/directory was pushed to the side for the new portal system which everyone also hated.

If you did plan on playing it then i would just skip out on shadow keep and go straight to beyond light, but keep in mind when i say that bl was a very meh expansion

>>738778117
true

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>>738770881
The first DLC after The Final Shape absolutely slaughtered this game. Me and my friends used to play it nearly daily leading up to TFS. We played a good bit in the Episodes after, too. But once that next DLC dropped, majority of us dropped the game altogether.
I log in literally once a week to check Eververse for new armor or shaders I can get with my mountain of Bright Dust. I have gone from like 120k to <80k. I hate to spend/love to hoard currency, so normally that would bother me, but there is no way this game continues after the next DLC drops.
The ship is down way too far for Bungie and Sony to revive it. Destiny 3 is the only way forward if Sony wants Destiny to be alive again.

>>738774843
ive never had a successful add from /v/

>>738772581
I would ONLY buy a remaster of Destiny 1 if it was a one and done thing. Just the complete game unchanged with uncapped framerate, the seasonal events, and Iron Banner, Trials, and Sparrow Racing on a bi-weekly or monthly cycle.
I absolutely do not want them to even attempt to add onto it with anymore terrible fucking stories or new armors/weapons that have aesthetic breaking tasteless fucking dogshit designs that have completely destroyed the unique look of Destiny's universe since 2's release.

>>738773124
The sunsetting only contributed to even a fewer selection of weapons and armor to get after EOF because you only had the EOF weapons and armor to grind and they introduced ths seasonal gear modifiers where using the new stuff gives you a armor/weapon damage bonus
Being able to buildcraft in destiny was everyone's favorite part and the combination of sunsetting and forced loadouts took that away

>>738773124
dont forget they ruined movement and made hunters almost unplayable.
you went from 100 mobility to the equivelent of 40 and the supposed mods that were supposed to bring it back up didnt work due to bugs.
i have no idea if they ever got around to fixing it but it made me ragequit the game a week into eof.

I didnt fall for or buy the EOF because when I was reading the twabs there were massive red flags of bungie repeating the same mistakes and I havent regretted quiting since. The STAR WARS dlc was also a pretty good indication that NUBungie has no respect with the destiny universe anymore and they effectively made it the next fortnite

>>738780405
bro stop logging in. You're still giving the bungie bean counters an engagement metric and showing them what you're willing to put up with.
All they care about is that you still log in, not how long you play or how happy you are while doing so. I haven't played since TFS ended and I'd rather the whole company crash and burn at this point than support what D2 has become.

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>>738771682
Destiny raids and Dungeons are shit and only 1% of the playerbase runs them because other people prefer fun over autism. Destiny's raids are among the most autistic things in video games. Raids and to a lesser extent Dungeons are a MASSIVE waste of time and resources and hard drive space. If it wasn't for Dungeons & Raids, they wouldn't have had to remove half of the games content so people could actually fit the game on their systems.

Imagine only making up 1% of the population but expecting the whole fucking universe to revolve around you. Fuck Sweaties.

>>738784267
spoken like someone who had no friends.
I thought the same until I found people to do them with and now they're some of my fondest gaming memories.

>>738784267
Destiny 1 raids weren't that bad
Destiny 2 raids really started sucking ass with what was demanded of people especially since everyone went full retard after shadowkeep. The healthbloat, well of radiance, and forced loadouts didnt exactly help d2 either. Your probably right about the hard drive space but even so Destiny 2 was already flooded with a bazillion seasonal activities that no one cared for and so they removed a whole campaign, planets, destinations, strikes etc but pleeeeasssseeee ignore the fact that if you go out of bounds you can still see they have those areas ingame and you shouldn't question the goodwill of bungie

>>738784638
forced loadouts were only ever a problem during contest modes which only existed for a day or two.
Normal raids can be completed with mostly anything and it's just the players enforcing strict loadouts. Same thing existed in D1.
>ghorn or kick

>>738784267
Genuinely a skill issue, dungeons and raids are the best content in the game & what make it worth playing. If you're unable to get on lfg and run ron/crota or a dungeon with randos you are genuinely braindead.
The main problem with them is that it's a time commitment & difficult to get a team of competent players or teach. Previously people would just farm their red borders and dip, but now with the tier system the loot they drop is worthless & the feat system in newer ones sucks so no one re-runs them much.

>>738784848
>ghorn or kicked
It was alot better in d1 though after TTK. Yeah you have your occasional better optimized loadout for a specific boss like crota where rockets were really good at breaking shields (ghorn) but there were other suitable weapons like dragonsbreath that actually was really useful against crota. Vog was rocket spam and sleeper or snipers (if you were good enough) was also a good substitute. WOTM had the most healthly loadout requirements because you could do alot. Vosik was a sniper, shotgun, sleeper, rocket, and hell even sword encounter if you were good enough, same for aksis. Destiny 1 had a way better balanced meta after the TTK now before TTK in D1 yeah the ghorn meme played a big part and did force those people to bring ghorn since it was the most optimal weapon and now we have those same issues plauging d2 today. In d2 now though you have to work around seasonal meta slop because of champions and different weapon sandboxes. Snipers are still unusable after the shadowkeep nerfs and aren't wroth bringing and people would probably force someone to be a divinity slut or ammo generating slut to bring more ammo
Destiny 1 had a better open sandbox than what current d2 has and thats just the unfortunate reality

>>738782172
>unchanged
No, it needs transmog. Free of charge, of course.

>>738784267
Destiny raids and dungeons are the objectively best coop gaming experience ever made.

>>738785746
>transmog
Nah nigga not unless you find some blue pieces of armor good looking
Otherwise you can just farm for a specific piece of legendary armor you really like the look of until you get a good roll and fuse that baby up

>>738785935
>not unless you find some blue pieces of armor good looking
Some of them really do look nice though.

>>738785746
Transmog and universal ornaments never should have been added.

>>738770881
You can still play the first one.
Play the first one
Dont pl a y 2

>>738786008
I do have to agree with you on that
But I also don't want NUbungie to fuckup destiny 1 so its really hard to think if I want QOL or just a nice simple pc port

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>>738770881
Everyone has let go. You have unfortunately picked the worst time to play it.

>>738784267
>t.seething husk of pitlet and crux of crotalet

D1 is still really good if you can stomach the FOV and 30fps since you don't have to deal with the content droughts from its time. And the whole game is basically still intact unlike its mess of a sequel

>>738784267
Destiny would be mindless slop if raids and dungeons (and exotic missions) weren't in it.

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>>738784962
>>738785882
>>738786496
>>738786983
heres your raid teammate bro

>>738787174
*kicks*

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>>738770881
The fact that The Desert Perpetual is actually an insanely cool raid both on normal and "epic" makes me want to kill myself.
>Final boss gets so assmad after you whoop his ass in the normal raid he starts savescumming the final encounter and you get to rally like 5 times
Where the fuck was this kino shit back in Lightfall Bungie?

>>738770881
>Anyone still play this?
Not really, no. Its hard to put into words how bad it is, because its the insidious kind of bad you don't notice immediately. Then it hits you with one horrific realization after another until you arrive at the reality you just wasted seven hours of your life you'll never get back for no reason.

>>738787497
Sorry bud but you get reskinned spire of watcher raid in lightflop instead
You rike?

>>738781409
is that a no anon?

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>>738787174
Only once have i raided with a content creator (that i know of). She was some shit-tier vtuber with a near static png for an avatar. It was the worst run of King's Fall I've ever had. She and her team of shitters couldn't fathom how to do the trophy run of Totems. I had to bounce at 2 hours after slogging through up to Golgoroth and then through Guardian Theater found out they kept going for another hour and a half.

Destiny 2 has DOUBLE the players than marathon hahahahahahah

>>738790629
That's because there's a 2 in the name, duh

>>738787174
>videos hidden

Who is that? Never heard of this fag on /dg/

The division 2 is more better.

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CDKeys has Renegades for $13 and I've been thinking about it.

It genuinely baffles me that they spent over 10 years building a high scifi fantasy aesthetic just to make a shit Star Wars mutant DLC. Like who thought this offbrand Harvey Davidson Kylo Ren would be a compelling villain design?

>>738793708
I dig it, he ends up being more a more compelling villain and better written than kylo as well imo. Aunor on the other hand looks like shit.

>>738793708
the upper management destroyed bungie. To them star wars was money despite how fatigued most consumers are by it.
Completely destroying destiny's atmosphere and world building for a short term cash grab was certainly a decision

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>>738771419
I haven't touched the game in 3 years and never will again, but I do still miss running Spire and Garden with my Destiny bros. When D2 was good, it was so fucking good.

>>738793894
>cowboy foundry nepobaby is well written
no

>>738784547
>>738784962
>>738786496
Pathetic sweaties outing themselves in an "The idiot says what?" moment. Raids and Dungeons are the least engaged part of the game so why does the other 99% of the playerbase have to pay the sweaties rent for them?

>>738786983
Most of the players don't play those things with the exception of most of the Exotic Missions. Some of them are pretty shit though. Nobody is playing Destiny exclusively for the Raids.

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>>738793708
The Star Wars colab store items were massively popular. So they decided they might as well just put Star Wars in the game. I'd like to use the Light Saber but melee in Destiny 2 is pretty shit on account of so many Enemies being anti-melee and exploding when they die.

>>738793708
Wouldn't even say the Star Wars DLC was where it went wrong. The aesthetic was better in 1 where it was more scifi than fantasy but they completely fucked that balance in 2 right out of the gate by making all Warlock armor generic robes with no metal bits and Titans have WoW sized pauldrons, which wasn't corrected for two whole exspansions.
The nu-leadership at bungie genuinely are a bunch of non-gamer kike faggots who okayed turning the game into what is essentially a western chink gacha, where often time's the game's start out with distinctive styles, only to be butchered by them adding a bunch of wuxiaslop shit for the masses.

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>>738796381
>Warlock Robes
As a Warlock, I wish I could look like a Titan but with a cape. I want to look like a Super Villain.

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>>738771359
Unlike with the sequel there WAS enough story that got amputated from D1 when Activision decided they wanted a looter shooter. You can tell how much effort went into the game before they had to turn it around.

>>738785882
I unironically agree
wish I could relieve those times

>>738796089
destiny would have died a much faster death if not for dungeons and raids, little gup.
What made destiny so good was all of the different content it had, but dungeons/raids were the set piece of each expansion. You need aspirational content like that to draw in a crowd. Don't know why I'm even arguing with such a shitter.

>>738796089
>thing you run once a week is played less than the rest of the game
Shocker. Please stick to add-clearing on strikes forever and never challenging yourself by all means, it means one less retard on lfg to deal with.

>>738786059
Wrong.

>>738797404
You can play them as much as you want.

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>>738786059
I want to look how I want to look instead of like a fucking retarded early World of Warcraft character. Fuck you.

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>>738796647
I just wanted more stuff like the Seraph armor, or that blue/white/orange set I can't think of the name of from 1, just a tasteful amount of metal adornments to look like a real scifi combat sage, not just a fantasy wizard. They course corrected a bit in Forsaken when they brought back some sets from 1 into 2, but in a sea of the other junk it felt like too little.
That was also the last expansion I played with friends before dropping the game, we all saw the writing on the wall where things were heading with how unrelentingly scummy bungie was being with the amount of fomo events and grind required to do anything in the game.

>>738787174
>see someone advertising open slots for a raid i want to do in the lfg
>scroll down to the voice channel
>click on every name already in there
>check for any sort of pride flag, political statement, pronouns, mentions of disabilities
>join if everything is clear
It's literally that simple. I have never had a group that didn't clear, i have never had a bad encounter. Vet your groups or you'll have a bad time, this has been true for ages.

>>738797740
>Gatekeeper
>Refuses to let people play.
>Game dies.
>Wonders why games they play die.

>>738797740
>shitter
>refuses to improve
>shits his pants
>wonders why nobody wants to play with him

>>738797548
Yeah, nowadays you can, but also nowadays no one is playing the game

>>738772236
The ones from Crypt and Scourge were pretty

>>738797740
your post seems to have upset some people

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>ummmmmm rad is the reason people play
You missed the point of both games then.

Lol

Anyone got a game code for the DLC pack before I head off and bang my girl?

Thanks anons.

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As a new player? Na that experince is the worst. I enjoy the game from time to time but that's because I've been playing since the beginning, but Destiny 2 is such a fundementally broken game.
Like most of the gear that was avaliable for years is no longer avaliable, and thats crazy because this whole game revolves around that. They completely fucked D2 with the portal system.
OP I'll do you a favor, if you want I will give you a copy of Beyond Light, and if you like it or find it fun to play then I'll also give you the code for the 30th anniversary pack, forsaken pack, witch queen dlc. and lightfall (I dont have final gape or renegades sorry)

anyone that still plays this game has a serious mental disorder and issues with addiction and needs to get help

>t.seething maraflopper

>>738801337
The point of a co-op looter shooter is to have fun with your friends and get good loot. Raids are the most fun and give the best loot.

>>738807091
Lol the raids in Destiny: Rising are way more intuitive for people who want to kick back. I mean dont get me wrong, I like Destiny raids especially Desert Perpetual but ultimately they're kind of bad when it comes to having fun.
Varity from Salvation's Edge is one of the few reasons why I never went back to replay that raid.

The best raids were the Destiny (2014) ones because atleast they were designed around dumb players with mostly challenging enemies.

The raiding experience was peak d1
Grabbing triple cannons and calling left and right to pickup middle bomb in WOTM with the music blasting felt so much
I LOOOOVVVEEEE adjusting and being a shot caller and getting my sweet sweet weldfire shader
Its unfortunate we will never see something like that again

>>738770881
Seems super dead. I quit years ago by this point. Sad. I still love the game desu. Best physics and gun play out there. It could have been so much more. Instead of more they took away what we already had with sunsetting content. Unbelievable garbage.
What a company.
Then they sabotaged their products and company into the Sony sale.
American business ethics.

>>738772134
They killed D2 on purpose. It was 100% intentional.
Enjoy your bad Sony. Superior American business ethics win again.

>>738772235
>hey did everything in their power to kill this game and now their studio is gonna die because of it.
The executive class already got their exit liquidity.
They want Bungie dead.
And the IP tainted.
So they can start a new game company and capture the player base Sony THOUGHT they bought from Bungie.

>>738807091
>Raids are the most fun and give the best loot.
The loot is eh. Except sometimes in D2 they had whatever special hard mode weapons that were slightly stronger.
Fun?
Eh?
Maybe if you had more friends than I did.
I mean.
I dunno man.
4000 hours in D2.

>>738808113
Raid weapons in d1 were pretty good. Genesis chain, fatebringer, found verdict, atheons epilogue (pvp), ex machina
Ex machina was probably one of my favorite sniper riflee

They significantly tuned down the raid and nightfall weaponry in D2 because players (non-raiders and solo dorks) were complaining for years over the fact that they couldn't get some of the best weapons in D1 because of that. So Bungie being Bungie decided to make that unique gear less powerful.

It wasn't until Last Wish that they added a Raid Exotic that completely broke the game like Vex Mythoclast and Outbreak Prime did in D1. And it wasn't until the Deep Stone Crypt for Bungie to add legendary weapons that were retardedly good.

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>>738770881
Been around since D1 release day. Wish I quit with The Final Shape but I really enjoyed epic Koreigos. That being said I’m genuinely done now.

Bungie’s contemptuous and prolonged silence and their allowance of the unending desperation for content and failing to deliver it needs to be studied and documented. I honestly hope everyone in any management position not just the ceos within Bungie never works again.

Sony should end Destiny for its own good and kill Marathon because it’s parasited and destroyed one of the largest ip’s of the 2010’s. It’s like watching a bar you liked getting intentionally mismanaged and ruined, I hate it.

>>738808113
>Fun?
>Eh?
>4000 hours in D2.
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