So, how much impact had this scene on your child mind?Is it still one of the most shocking moments in vidya history?
>>738776147Literally zero because it was meme to spoil it online around the time I played it. I knew years in advance so I never used her or cared about her at all.
>>738776234You know that everyone you love in real life is going to die and you care about them
Is this the thread
>>738776147BREFFMINTS
you can tell aeris enjoyed it,
>>738776578>aeris
>>738776147Zero. I played it on release, I was ten years old. I just didn't give a shit. Because my parents raised me to separate fantasy from reality and because some literal who bitch with a dozen lines of (badly translated) dialogue isn't a character.
>>738776597tifa made this post
>>738776454shhh don't tell him, hes to retarded.
>character dies in battle>pop a phoenix downCan't take deaths seriously if you have revival items like that.I just think the group was retarded to not think about using one on her
>>738776147Didn't really care because Tifa had huge tits. However, I did ask myself who's going to be our dedicated healer replacement.
>>738776838its 2026 there is no need for dorkly humour now
>>738776147To uncultured subcreatures it makes bigger shocking moment when they got to know thousands johns at that pre-whitewashed whorehouse called their fap material whorefu "Tifa-chan" (in fact, "Boing-chan") a lot.https://www.nicozon.net/player.html?video_id=sm14381614>https://m4.imhentai.xxx/013/yc9ow5tszu/3.jpg>https://m4.imhentai.xxx/013/yc9ow5tszu/9.jpg
>thousands of johns called her Tifa-chan (in fact, "Boing-chan") a lot. >>738777640https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/737733205/#737739829>https://m5.imhentai.xxx/019/acu5z7v6wd/4.jpg>https://m5.imhentai.xxx/019/acu5z7v6wd/6.jpg
Zero because i was playing Ocarine of Time
>>738776856All characters can use Restore materia. The only thing Aerith had for healing was her first limit break.You probably didn't know but you could also switch whole materia sets in Materia -> Switch menu. I rotated my characters after each dungeon.
>>738776147Honestly not much. I didn't hate Aeris, but she wasn't exactly a favorite of mine either. My first thought was, "Barret, why didn't you try to shoot him as he was floating down, dummy"Now THIS scene affected me as a kid.https://youtu.be/rJPwehjoji0?t=184
>>7387779177 is the best followed by 5, 8 and 10. 4, 6 and 9 are good but just not as good as the better ones. The better ones have more customization and player agency. It's ok to like 6, I like it too. It's just not as good as the better ones.
>>738777994Whatever you say
>>738776147I didn't really care because I liked Tifa and Yuffie more.
>>738777994>8 better than 9Come on
>>738778049It is. Interactive limitbreaks in 8 over trance in 9 seal the deal. Also 8 lets you customize your commands and spell libraries not to mention better card game, refining and side stuff. And faster battles.9 is comfy and fun experience but why would I ever replay it?
>>738778049>1/255 chance to steal Fairy Flute you can simply buy 2 hubs later
>>738776147The flashback scene with Cloud and Sepiroth in the reactor got more reaction out of me.
>>738777910I was a baby, anon.
>>738778350And this is a bad thing why?You can start learning abilities/magic 2 Hubs earlier then
>>738778446One of my friends didnt use Aeris because he knew Aeris was going to die. We are not friends anymore
>>738778504The only thing you get from it that you cant get elsewhere at that point is Esuna. And you already have access to Remedies. It's useless.
I thought it was pretty cool that they let a character die.
>>738776147A) She was a whoore.B) She healed me.
>>738776147I had the strategy guide and it basically spoiled it for me. If any reason she didn't have any weapons past Temple of the Ancients. Either she would leave the party or die.Given Final Fantasy track record (Tellah/Galuf/Leo) it was a matter of time when one of the games actually killed off a female party member.
>>738778504It's ok to like FF9. You dont need to defend Hillgigas' Fairy Flute's steal rate just because it's made fun of. FF7 had Pandora's Box that you can only learn once the first time you kill random enemy Dragon Zombie. It's ok to make fun of it.
>>738778350I ran out of potions, ethers, and MP and still couldn't steal get it.But man, getting haste super early is worth it.
>>738778679Missables were pretty common in rpgs though
>>738778619In the early development the plan was to kill the party members who you didn't pick for the Disc 2 ending Midgar Raid. They decided to kill just Aeris instead.
>>738778586>>738778632Doesn't make a big enough impact to make it worse than 8 though
>>738776147I never played VII as a childI never played it to this day
>>7387792068 is better game than 9. I can understand if you like FF9's story and characters more. It's cool and I like them too. But FF8 is simply a better game.
>>738779225I have never gone to a thread about game that I didn't play or wasn't interested in.
>>738776147I was 10 when ff7 dropped and I was 10 when I got to this part. I legit cried. My sister and mom laughed at me. In the future my mom would refuse to buy me kingdom hearts because it looks like its for babies. My mom was trying to save me
>>738779308Boys shouldn't cry and show these kind of emotions.So it's good she stopped you from becoming a fag
>>738776147Not that much, finding out Cloud is a schizo right after this was a way more impactful story beat for me.
>>738779396>Boys shouldn't cry and show these kind of emotions.Retard.
>>738779294yeah but I will because it's funnyeveryone knows she dies on sephiroth's steel sasuage anyway, shit's the "I am your father" of video game spoilers
>>738776147I was playing it as a kid while barely knowing any English yet, on top of the game being poorly translated and the story that probably would have been hard to follow for a kid even without those obstacles. At the time I mostly just looked at pretty visuals without really understanding what was going on, so my impression at the time was that the scene was a bit boring with too little action. Didn't care much otherwise because I didn't really use her much.
I mourn her everyday, so I know I'm living the true Cloud experience.
>>738780201Stop being so sentimental, cloud.You still have tifa and yuffie
>>738780349But that Cetra pussy...
>>738779426Fag alert. Spotted the homo over here lmao get rekt
>>738780360Used goodsYuffie is still unused. She's also much cuter and tifa wanted your D from the very beginning.
>>738780525>tifa wanted your DThe only D she wants is the attachable D to peg Cloud's boipussy.
>>738780349But Tifa, I dont want some vagene already got shaped after Barret it would be too loose for me.>https://m4.imhentai.xxx/015/cpamdbk2zi/14.jpg>https://m4.imhentai.xxx/015/cpamdbk2zi/8.jpg
>>738780698Yuffie it is then
>>738776578it's Earisu
>>738776147I did not give a shit because Aeris sucked and was never on my party. They should have had Cloud die.
>>738779426No he's right. Being too emotional is a severe handicap in society
>>738780201You could say it left you... Howling & Hollow, huh?
How can you guys say I shouldn't be emotional when the love of my life just died?
>>738781172You have to let go.It's not healthy
>>738776147I was more annoyed about losing all the exp. Could've levelled someone else instead.
>>738781229No one could forget Aerith
>>738781432ThisWhat a waste of time
>>738781432There's some reason cultured real people hate baka gaijins.
You might not feel anything but look at this.Look at this.This is what feeling hollow in your heart feels like.
Saria becoming a Sage hit me harder
>>738782829>moping around the whole time>meanwhile, tifa is losing her eggs with each passing ovulation dayWhat a retard
>the ending where Cloti "wins" has Cloud driving around alone, thinking about Aeirth, while ignoring phonecalls from Tifa and spending as little time with her as possibleCurious
>>738776234and that's exactly why Aerith is more popular in japan where her death wasn't spoiled
Poor Cloud, they fucked him up for good, even Vincent was taken aback and he's the emo simp extraordinaire
>>738780525I would never downgrade like that. If I had to find another girl I would get Malon who is actually pretty
Don't look shitfags
>>738783649>yuffie>downgrade?
>>738781749We're not telling you to forget about her.We're telling you to stop being a faggot about it.She didn't sacrificed herself just so you could be a bitch about it.
>>738783705Yes I don't have yellow fever. Aerith is princess tier
>>738776147taught myself how to READ in like first grade so i can better understand and play this game. This scene fucked me up. Like my brain never witnessed a character perma die like this in a game, i was used to mario etc. I remember i cried when i heard her theme
>>738776147unfortunately some fag at school spoiled it for me
>>738783535Glad kefka mogs sephibitch
>>738783174Cloud is not a monkey-brain like you
I know I saved her.
>>738783917It's not about having Sex with her constantly but to have a happy family with tifa.Even aerith tells him to fuck off already, she clearly has fun with zack in the afterlife
I played a bootlegged pirated PC version of FF7 when I was eight and most of the CGI scenes wouldn't actually play so all I got was a black screen.
>>738784021No, Aerith keeps watching over him after that. The point is he stopped blaming himself for her death, but they're still looking for each other.
>>738776147Zero.I already experienced it in phantasy star 2, so FF7 was just rehashing the experience. Oddly with less emotional connection to the character.
What were they thinking seeing Cloud like this?
>>738776147I don't know how I even find out. I played remake first. I fell in love with Aerith. I watched an OG playthrough later and I don't remember how I felt. So I guess it wasn't that emotional. Maybe I got a bit teary because of the music. Anyway you see aerith is still alive later in the heaven dimension so it's funny how some people claim her death is 'final'. She's has the same eternal life as jesus basically.
>>738784126Why is she grumpy here?
>>738776147Subhuman tifags felt nothing because they are retarded and don't understand the story or characters.Aerithchads mourned our waifu and vowed to absolutely obliterate sephiroth, which we did.
>>738776147This scene is a red herring for people who didn't play the game, similar to Adachi in P4. The actual twist is Cloud's schizophrenia
>>738784697>there are two twists!>therefore the first twist is invalid!This is your brain on stupid
>>738784378Based
>>738784378Didn't Cloud swore to kill Sephiroth because he killed his mom and destroyed his village?
I remember the directors promised equal screentime between Aerith and Tifa, so Aerith will be front and center in part 3 after saving her.
>>738785039And also because he robbed him of his beloved.
>>738785115So they will turn back just after leaving her?
>>738784378The difference is that tifa is still alive and kicking, while aerith is dead and lying at the bottom of a lake, used as fish food
>>738785149No, second half will be Aerith focused.
>>738785183Also sleeping in a separate room from Cloud and treating him like a son.While Aerith lovingly watches over him from the lifestream.
>>738785039No
>>738785205So when Cloud is in the coma?
>>738785039Thanks for demonstrating how subhuman coombrains work.
>>738785183Tfia has the pleasure of getting cucked by a dead girl. And Aerith has eternal life unlike shitfa who will actually become fishfood
>>738776234Same. Now Cloud turning out to be the Shinra grunt in his flashbacks? Now THAT was a kino plot twist that had my jaw on the floor.
I was so pissed because I just spent time powerlevelling her.
>>738785297You think LS will be second half? Not very smart.
>>738785039No, he was mind controlled by Jenova cells into chasing him.
>>738784237The dude grabs his head and has trembling schizo meltdowns regularly. They probably didn't even notice.
>>738785538What will be the first half and what will be the second half?
>>738776147The graphics were ugly as shit so no one actually cared.
>>738785627You were not sentient in 1997.
>>738776234Spoilers always hinder my enjoyment of a story. Fuck people that spoil shit.
>>738785353But Cloud will also become fishfood
>>738776596That just proves that he's an OG
Cloud has to save Aerith, I don't want him killing himself.
>>738776147I was happy to see her at the end and marry her while I died to holy
>>738785714Aerith will absorb him into herself
>>738785808And tifa is coming with them
>>738785808Obviously not, because omni Aerith doesn't have omni Cloud in Remake.
>>738785847nah, she is absorbed by some bacteria
>>738784813That's not what I said, doofus. The first twist is the one that occupies the public conscious, outside of people who played the game, but for people who actually did play the game the hidden second twist is the one that defined their experience.
>>738785851That's not how absorption works
>>738785948Are you saying omni Aerith in Remake has omni Cloud within her?
>>738785916No it isn't. It's a good twist but emotionally not even close to aeris's tragic death
>>738785739>wait for meCloud no!
>tifa getting added to street fighteraeris bros... why wasn't it US?
>>738786151Probably because tifa fights with her fists and aerith is a mage princess.
>>738786151>>tifa getting added to street fighterWat?
>>738786071People have voted that Zack's death is more tragic than Aerith's death. Zack's death is the story of Cloud's fake personality.
>>738776147She was my least used party member at the time so not much. Other games like Arthas' betrayal had more of an impact on me.
>>738786151It's all part of the plan
>>738776147Chrono Trigger did it better which 7 just apes elements of. FE4 and DQV were also more impactful
>>738786319wut?
>>738786151She will make a good flesh punchbag for ryona fetishists
>>738786438>Chrono Trigger did it betternot at all>DQVcome on
>>738786319>people you mean tifabots and CC zoomers?
>>738786456>>738786470
none cause I was a grown ass man when this game came out
>>738786462Those sex Positions look really hot
>>738786508If Cloud's identity was the best plot twist, why didn't they vote for that? Your argument doesn't make sense.
>>738786508>denfaminicogamerLmfao the most botted pollsite in JP
If I can't save her this time I'll curse square into irrelevance.
>>738776234yup. it was spoiled before the game ever even released in english, thanks very much ROB CYPHER for spamming alt.games.final-fantasy with posts titled AERITH DIES CLOUD IS A MACHINE
>>738783174Tifa is only 20 retard
>>738786605Just saying the delivery of Zack's death scene was better done that Aerith's death scene. One is the final scene and the other is in disc 1
>>738786508>subhuman believes zoomies over SNS are "people".
>>738786753Already a hag
>>738786764Oh no no no lifestream bros
>>738776147FFV did it better and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.
>>738783174Barret is right there tho
>>738786763No one thinks that and your botted poll is shit.
>>738786763No, Aerith's death is way more impactful and plot relevant to the game.Zack's death makes an impression because the graphics are better. But his story is already done when he dies, Aerith's is cut short.
>>738786764>335 vs 63 vs 34There are levels to this tifags
>>738786763Zack's death piggyback rides the OG, otherwise people wouldn't give a shit.You showed it parallels Clive's death, and I don't see people caring about that one.
Why do people love Aerith?
>>738776147I'm not sure I'd say most shocking moments in vidya history at this point, but FF7 is pretty important to me and I did cry like a bitch.
>>738786896Yeah, delivery of the scene. Rebirth botched the chance to deliver an impactful scene. Anyone can argue whose story is cut short for anyone. Zack died in trying to meet Aerith after 5 years.
>>738787037Because she is perfect dream waifu who needs to be protected
>>738786764What is second place supposed to be?
>>738776147I never played this as a child, I only played it in like 2024. I Knew about it for 2 decades through cultural osmosis. It was still impactful which is why I know ff7 is a good game.
>>738787120I can't take chibis seriously
>>738787212FF7 was chibi
>>738786463It did. In CT you lost a much more valuable character in the same pivotal moment in the story but CT gives you the option to bring them back if you work hard enough for it.
Was Cloud delusional at the end of OG thinking he would find the promise land to be with Aerith? I think the depression crashed in when he realized it wasn't a "place" he could find, hence AC.
>>738776147you just need to collect all the 1/35 soldiers bro
>>738787175Tidus confronting Jecht inside Sin. I mean they have tons of pictures of it.
What the fuck was Sephiroth doing in the rafters lmao? Did he follow the party or did he just arrive at the same time? Doesn't matter, the whole sequence is rendered moot by the end of the game. In all honesty I was kinda checked out by this point anyway, the pursuit of Sephiroth is so goddamn stupid it's unreal.
>>738787242But that moment didn't play out in this chibi format
>>738787256He's depressed in AC because he got geostigma. The movie was about him overcoming geostigma.
>>738787256Nah it was real, AC then just retconned the ending since they wanted to milk the characters more
>>738787349it's not sephiroth anon
>>738787372You get geostigma because of depression, not the other way around.
>>738787383Why did you cut off Tifa's line?
>>738787328I would expect the tidus yuna goodbye would be higher than that
>>738787426because tifa inserting herself into it is pathetic and has nothing to do with cloud
>>738787383So was he really going to find Aerith crossing Mt Nibel like he wanted to?Pretty interesting he tells Tifa she won't find her mom there, but then says he'll cross it to find Aerith.
>>738787420
>>738787256Cloud was delusional in the moment of and before her death. He raised his sword to her in the moments before the cutscenes. People aren't ready for the discussion that Cloud killed her and the Sephiroth scene was a delusion
>>738787489Why did the devs leave Tifa's line then?
>>738787519Pretty sure yuffies chapter of OTWTAS says geostigma affects those who are so depressed they lost the will to life. There is a reason only cloud gets it from the party and orphan kids are the primary target in the movie
>>738787574Tifa is a naturally jealous character so it goes with her personality to insert into it. She is also directly called jealous of cloud and aerith in AC.
>>738787403Yes it is, fagotniger
>>738787519>randos writing wikis without knowing the loreMany such cases.
>>738787591Tifa's chapter is full of non depressed Cloud
>>738787703I don't see non depressed Cloud in your image, only delusional Tifa thinking everything he does is about her.
>>738785683there should be real identity tied VAC bans across the whole internet for spoilers
The Promised Land is a state of mind, not a literal place.>t. Aerith Gainsborough
>>738787552Someone with Jenova was definitely there though as you fight it right after. I mean it does not mean that Cloud did not hallucinate the kill but Sephiroth was there and could have.
What does the Lifestream even do?
>>738787762
>>738787703Even tifa knows cloud is depressed over aerith
Aerith is Cloud's promised land
>>738787861>Cloud's girlfriend is murdered in front of him>Tifa still attention whores because she wants the suicidal guy to comfort HERWill she ever put his pain first or consider it important? All I see her do is tell him it's irrelevant or trying to make it about her.
>>738787867I don't see him depressed here
>>738788023Should've done a better job not letting his girlfriend die
>>738788026He's not depressed!>smiling while he says it's funny he always fails at having a good lifeThis dude's about to snap and Tifa is still unable to read him.
>>738787906No, his family is
>>738787964Sniff
>Cloud dissociates and stares at the sky instead of listening to peoplehe is based
>>738788151daily reminder that was written by benny matsuyama and devs said they all have a different view on the promised land.
>>738788026>I'm going to live, it's the only way I can be forgivenSo confirmed Cloud tries to live despite his soul crushing depression because he feels he "deserves" a punishment?
>>738788026>hereit's easy to mask depression yet tifa still is able to see he is depressed over aerith here >>738787867
>>738788247Why did they publish it?
>>738788361He has geostigma by the end of the novel. Which is why he's been sneaking to the church to hide from the family.
>>738788548Yes he has geostigma because of depression that tifa notices here >>738787867
>>738788573He wasn't depressed at the start of the novel.
>>738788485Why did they have Cloud say he can meet with aerith in the promised land?
>>738786896
>>738788687You have to be retarded to think that. He was masking it and the act was crumbling
>>738788151It's funny Aerith has to keep kicking him out of the lifestream and telling him he should live. If she had given him the chance, would he just throw it all away to stay there?
>>738776147it was decent impact because they killed off a party member but I didn't use her much in my first playthrough and even struggled a little bit at temple of the ancients
>>738788713He thought the promised land is the lifestream. Later in AC he realized that it's his family
Why can't Aerith just revive herself? Why the fuck is Zack in the afterlife?
>>738788841Nah, he settles for that after Aerith doesn't let him stay in the lifestream with her. Says it right there.
>>738788841It says the promised land is the place where he awakens so Aerith's church
>>738788974I thought Aerith is his girlfriend?
>>738789087Yes, so she puts his life first. She's the selfless one that only cares about his well-being. Cloud is the reckless one willing to throw away his life to be with her until she kicks him out of the lifestream.
>>738788974It actually says Zack and Aerith told him that
I want part 3 already.
>>738789281Yes, his girlfriend and his friend, they care about him.
Phantasy Star II beat Final Fantasy VII to the punch as they say.
>>738788841>heyou mean the devs themselvesCloud at the very end of the game doesn't need to be some unreliable narrator lmao
>>738789209So this couple don't want the same thing?
Jenova can't enter the lifestream. Why are ya'll reading this OC donut steel crap? Ya'll makin' Dirge of Cerberus lookin' respectable.
>>738777917General Leo’s death by Kefka’s hand affected me more, Kefka literally came out of no where and overpowered him. That’s not even scratching the surface. Kekfa ended the world and I’m pretty sure he killed more people in the process.>>738778039Lol Shadow wannabe
>>738789345So they don't want to be together with Cloud?
>>738778049He’s actually spitting facts, 8 (and 7) shits all over 9.
could Sephiroth beat Barret in a fist-fight?
if you were a child when the playstation was a thing you are underaged
>>738789854If you died would you selfishly want your wife to instantly die to reunite with you or would you wish she lives her life longer and meets you after a natural death?
>>738776147Its on the back of the box. It didn't shock me at all.
>>738789971Yeah probably, considering Barret only got one fist and it's shoved up Cloud's asshole
>>738780525Not that Cloud anon but Yuffie it is!
>>738776147Still the saddest and most symbolic death in gaming in my eyes. Edgelord neckbeards with shit opinions need not apply. I do not care what you think. What matters is it was very effective for my childhood. She is still possibly the second best and most wholesome vidya girl imo right after Yuna. I'd have to play both games again back to back though to know for sure.
>>738789991Don't matter, that nigga can't join 'em at all. AC is a hallucination written by retards.
>>738789854Yes? You can want to be together with someone while placing their well-being first, it's the point of Aerith's self sacrificial love after her murder. You seem very unfamiliar with human emotions.
>>738789991If Cloud dies he'll dissolve into the lifestream
>>738790050What did it symbolize?
>>738790094Nope, he'll be denied, just like every other illegal alien. Pool's closed, bitch.
>>738789707Yes, they want the same thing, to be together. They prioritize different things, Aerith prioritizes Cloud's life while Cloud was ready to give it up. Watch the film.
>>738790094Way to ignore the topic you started
>>738790071But Cloud wants to die
>>738785269Terra with the Truth Ultima
>>738783502Literally everything in the FFVII universe after the original game has been harmful / detrimental / misunderstanding of the original.
Will she be Zacks consolation prize after Aerith goes to Cloud?
>>738790070But Cloud is delusional and thinks he'll find Aerith if he finds the promised land in the OG, too.
>>738790152>He's confusing the game for the movieDifferent canons.
>>738790154My topic is Cloud's promised land is his family
>>738790205advent children is what compilationfags wanted and they got it (even more so with the AC Complete directors cut), in spite of OG FF7 fans who hate everything ever made based on the game.Think again, why should the company appease to a dozen purists who will simply turrn around and say "Thanks I hate it" for everything they do, when they got a massive Kingdom Hearts fandom who will pay for anything with Cloud's face on it?some people hate the compilation so much they want to de-canonize it through sheer force of wishful thinking and go full XV-kun on every 7R thread to profess their love for Sakaguchi and whine that people keep "defending" 7R, CC and every other compilation thing.why should I say why I like advent children anyway? anything I say about it will be invalidated because muh taste. consider the plot here: it puts an effort to build upon the orriginal and doesn't merely reeenact the game's events. this by itself is a good thing for me, because I'm a compilationfag who wants to see the VII canon grow into an autism multiverse.then all it takes for you is to say "nope, the extended universe is shit so it sucks". what was achieved in this discussion? did I fail to "prove" the film is good, then? iff you engage anyone who likes the thing expecting them to scientifically justify and legally prove their taste with airtight evidence, you ain't neutral for shit.>I'm gonna like the good stuff and call out the bad stuff. but don't you dare "defend" it!
>>738790094No, his will to be with Aerith is strong enough to rival Sephiroth, he would keep his form.
>>738790208She's cute.
>>738790108It was meant to give a shocking and sad response in people. She was the love interest of Cloud, she likely was the healer of the party for most if I had to guess, and she also had a great personality in the game. She was basically the white mage of the game. Then just as things get really good in the game and you get to know her even more, the villain kills her to great effect. This is also one of the big reasons why Sephiroth was so effective as a villain. It showed people he could kill your party members and have no remorse about it. A total edgelord.
>>738776147>Is it still one of the most shocking moments in vidya history?I played Phantasy Star 2 first
>>738776147dont know why people jackoff to this scene so much, to me cloud getting his memories and self back was much more memorable.
>>738790330So what does she symbolise? What symbolism was used?
>>738790218It's the same thing in the OG, though. Cloud wants to be with Aerith and wants to find the promised land for her. Aerith wants to be with Cloud but prioritizes protecting his life.
>>738790223If you go by word of god it's aerith's church
>>738790214Cool. Nothing to do with what was being talked about, but cool.
>>738790285Apparently not strong enough to kill himself
>>738790223That's the promised land he settles for after he's denied being with Aerith, what choice does he have but accept it. And he still considers his friends and family IN Aerith's church to be his promised land. Dude just can't let go.
>>738790390because you are a faggot
>>738790108>>738790330Also I think the reason her death was so effective is because she dies before her character got expanded on in the later game if she had not died or if it were pretty much any other game. Had she lived its possible the writers would have eventually butchered her character, made her more hateable, maybe mess something up, etc. Its possible something could have been done to ruin her character is my point. She dies basically at the peak of the character development and you don't ever get to see what could have been. It would kind of be like if Gohan defeated Cell and then just goes off to the other world forever since he peaked as a good character there.
>>738790414>It's the same thing in the OG, thoughThen don't bring up the movie. Stay on topic and try again.
>>738790441The church that turns to a geostigma healing centre for everyone in Kyrie's story
>>738790330Okay. What does her death symbolize, though?Also I'm just gonna stop you right there because the Nibelheim flashback is shown like 20 hours before and established everything you mentioned about Sephiroth. Anything after that sequence is redundant, e.g. shock value death sequences that have no major impact on the story.
>>738790469More like not strong enough to sadden her if he dies intentionally. As always, she's his weakness.
>>738786151Aerith for Smash 6!>>738786407YES!
>>738790596So aerith keeps healing people like she wants. She isn't selfish like you anon
>>738790397Well if you really want me to get into that she, along with Tifa and even Sephiroth are named after the Kabbalah. Tifa and Aerith representing the heart and Sephiroth's name is literally Sephirot but with an h added. But most anons don't really care about the deeper sybolism included in the game.
>>738790624Why would Aerith be sadden to be together with Cloud?
Cloud won't let death cuck him out of his love again, he's saving Aerith.
>>738790701You haven't said what the death symbolises yet.That's the only thing I aksed you to describe, thanks.
>>738790665Not Aerith, but there are people in the centre administrating treatment to the public.
>>738786438>FF7 Demake in the style of Chrono Trigger I’d honestly love it, Crono himself is was the first true Goku inspiration before Cloud which was a Gohan inspiration.
>>738790808Aerith obviously has a healing affect on the church. That's why Cloud is drawn to it and the water from it insta heals him too
>>738790760Because she loves him more than her own happiness, the thought of him being hurt or dying intentionally, even if it gets them together like they want, would hurt her deeply, duh.
>>738790806I just literally told you what it is symbolic of you dumb midwit. Its not my fault you are too dumb to understand that the developers included actual irl symbolism in their video game. Go look this up yourself and stop asking to be spoonfed moron because you were just told the answer and still you do not get it.
>>738790390This. "I remember everything" is the most impactful part of the entire game as it finally reveals the full plot and gives an explanation to everything.
>>738790901Your post literally does not say what the death symbolises, just the people.You want to correct your mistake? Or will you double-down on being wrong?
>>738786763
I was pretty pissed that i lost the weapon and armor she had equipped but other than that I thought it was a cheap ploy to score more emotional investment and stakes from the player.
>>738786764FF8 really had no cultural impact
>>738790869Actually it didn't insta healed him. Him and Denzel still go for treatments there.
>>738787037>Why do people love Aerith?She’s a complete and perfect package
>>738790997Is making dumb collages your hobby? Why are you subjecting us to it?
>>738790993>she, along with Tifa and even Sephiroth are named after the Kabbalah. >Tifa and Aerith representing THE HEART>Sephiroth stabs Aerith (the heart)How are you this fucking dense? This is why bringing this type of subject matter up to dumb gamers is pointless. It goes right over the head of most of them.
>>738790701So Sephiroth stabbed her through the heart? That's it?
>>738786764This list is right, if you played the game on release, Aerith's death is the most impactful and shocking part. The identity revelation is also good, I'm glad they also included it.
>>738791161So what does the death symbolise?Be specific and stop wasting time dodging the question, you fucking retard.
>>738787037Just look at her? What is their to hate?
>>738791052VIII's only crime was following VII. People who started with VII (which was a shit-ton of people) didn't understand the FF "sequel" format.
>>738776147I was happy she got killed
>>738787671it's literally the chunk of jenova you fight right afterwards
>>738787212>>738787242This the one minor issue with OG FF7 which the characters having overworld and battle models. Not even FF6 had this problem since it unified both overworld and battle sprites together while expanding character animation and expression.FF7 definitely took one step back for every two steps forward. Thankfully Square managed to turn those steps back around with FF8 and FF9 using the same character models for both in and out of battles. Compare the character models between FF8/FF9 with FF7. Night and day difference, looks like entirely different console generations.
>>738791206I think he's taking the long way around to saying that Sephiroth killed the "heart" of the party. Which is kinda true, I guess.Not exactly winning any Pulitzers for this shit, but whatever.
>>738791071Unrelated to your image? Because it doesn't say that.Also >Denzel>blond boyIs this a fanmade translation?
>>738778046>I didn't really care because I liked Tifa and Yuffie more.BASED
>>738787671its not you fucking retard, sephiroth was in the north crater since he fell in the lifestream during the nibeilheim incident, it's jenova the group unknowingly followed the whole game
>>738787383Cloud is so lucky he gets smothered by Tifa’s Warlocks when escaping the northern crater.
>>738791308...being controlled by Sephiroth
Saving Aerith! Saving Cloud's happiness by saving Aerith!
>>738791345The technical leaps forward from 7 > 8 are astounding. FMVs intermingling with gameplay, model fidelity, quality audio format and much more cinematography in battles.
>>738791167>>738791206I did not dodge your questions at all you are just trolling now. Go and look up the kabbalah or look up FF7 symbolism videos yourself since you don't want to accept my answers. Do you even understand anything I was talking about or are you unaware of what this is? See the yellow circle where it says Tiferet? They literally named the two main girls after that sephirot. So Sephiroth (who is literally named after the circles that you see in the pic) stabs Aerith (one of the hearts) of the game. Therefore the whole entire scene is meant to be upsetting to the player both in shock value and to be sad. Also to make you want to defeat the villain even more.
>>738787383lmao, he looked do happy when he thought he was gonna reach Aerith's hand
>>738791501vagrant story was the pinnacle of square mastery over the PS1 hardware. damn shame the ps2 got released so fast.
>>738790390As one of the few people for whom everything in VII was unspoiled, Aerith's death is more memorable of the two.
>>738787964Tickle
>>738776147I have never and will never play this game. I played many other FF games but refuse to play this one, just to spite all the nostalgiafags and secondaries who only gush about this game and will never play the other ones.
>>738791525>Look up my answer for me p-p-please...>I am NOT DODGING ANSWERING THE QUESTION!!!!!Kek.Why are you so upset? Just answer me.
>>738776147noneI was bored to tears and wanted to change back to metal slug
>>738791595nigger if you never played FF7 you literally are a secondary, it's the third FF ever released in the US and first FF ever released in europe.
>>738791675>first FF ever released in europe.Wrong.
>>738788745I was watching an FF1-10 Marathon 100% stream and man did this part drag out for way too long. Even OG FF7 had its fluff padding moments which the remakes further showcase.
>>738791631Here is another pic that directly shows you where the names come from since sometimes its spelled a bit different.
Why do people want Cloud to be unhappy so bad?
>>738778049I place my card on the bottom right corner and end my turn.
>>738791709you werent born, sit and shut the fuck up while the grown up discuss
>>738791768That's the devs though
>>738791756So what does the death symbolise?Be specific please. In fact, finish the following sentence;>"The death of Aries in FF7 symbolises..."Add the final word to the sentence
>>738791631AI Overview:>Tiferet (meaning "Beauty" or "Glory") is the sixth sefirah on the Kabbalistic Tree of Life, representing the heart, harmony, and balance.I've explained to you enough anon. Not my fault you don't get it. The death is sad and impactful because the villain of the game kills off the best waifu of the game.
>>738791052That does seem to be the case.
>>738791595Letting fans dictate your actions isn't the power move you think it is.
>>738791375It's in the same chapter.
>>738791768he reminds me of myself. a kid who told his crush he'd be a super cool person as a grown up, only to completely bomb and hide from her when I returned from uni. I look forward to him admitting he was never in soldier so I can cry my heart out.
>>738791809>No proof of his claimsYou are a retarded nigger.
>>738791405Jenova doesn't appear in the game. The whole subplot is a quadruple twist for no reason other than to pretend the story has more mystique than it really does.>Sephiroth is... alive?!>No, it's just Jenova>Wait a second, it's actually Sephiroth!>No nevermind, it's Reunion Theory, it really is Jenova who was just pretending to be Sephiroth!>Oh nevermind, it's actually just been Sephiroth the whole time
>>738791675>it's the third FF ever released in the USbro the one before it was literally named final fantasy 3 in the us so it would be the 4th you dumb nigger
SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE!
>>738791768I don't want him to be unhappy, just wish he never existed. Genuinely one of the worst protagonists of any story ever written. Goofy ass design (Remake/Extended Universe, anyway) and no character/personality.His whole identity is just mystery box. He's a literal tool, not a character. I feel less than nothing for this goober.
Starscourge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tifa's space aids
the site I used to jack off to in my teens was called aerisdies.net so I never stood a chance of not getting spoiled.
>>738791917that's not how claims work, you're the one who claims something exist. prove it.
>>738791768I'm probably the only person here who lost my gf to death. I wish I could say I am eternally mourning her, but truth is 2 years later I was able to develop a new crush in HS. Kinda sad how that works. I do have a knack for tragic romance tho
>>738792087It's on the back of the box too, they literally show you Sepheroth stabbing her, right next to a snowboarding screenshot lol
why does Tifa's scar supposedly prove she's not an imposter?
>>738791768He has Tifa
>>738792118You made the claim>>738791675>first FF ever released in europe.Burden of proof is on you, don't be such a nigger, prove your claims true or admit you can't.
>>738791972yes i forgot it got the first FF. this change everything. Oh wait, no.
>>738776234I knew Zack would die and I still cried at the end of Crisis CoreWhat a stupid post emotionless golem post
>>738792165?
>>738792267Probably because zack's death was turned into a hollywood tier cringefest while Aerith's was subtle and carried by raw shock emotions
>>738776147Actually I was bummed out for like a week, but it was because it was a unique experience in dramatic story telling. I mean yeah the scene shocked me, but it was everything after too. Cloud goes into a coma, I was struggling to level up again after losing my strongest healer and Cloud. The story was depressing and you learn Cloud was lying about his past and cait sith sold you out.It was like a full week of fuck my life all the characters I spent months getting attached to are getting fucked hard.And unlike a movie where the sad part is over in an hour... the suffering dragged on.And I couldn't stop playing. I was too invested. I wanted to see it through even if it hurt.Kinda gay to think of it now but I was in 6th grade. So jokes about how ff7 is over rated and lives as nostalgia bait because it's babies first RPG, and it was a one trick pony killing a major character with no way to get her back, and the story isn't that good and full of plot holes also kinda rings true. Like yeah, I get it it's B movie cheesy writing pretending to be super deep.But.... what makes a good B movie IS that it tries to be sincere and gives it it's best try.That's where I am with FF7. It doesn't hit like when it originally dropped. It is impossible for it to hit the same, even if you are a kid playing it. The writing and story is no where as deep as everyone pretended it was. But it told a story of insecurity, imposter syndrome, love triangles, and loss from the heart even if it was told in a b movie scifi script
>>738792243i fucking told you to sit you zoomer
>>738792313European box spoils it. Here's a linkhttps://cdn.mobygames.com/covers/6761251-final-fantasy-vii-playstation-back-cover.jpg
>>738792315>Aerith's death was subtle>literal bollywood tier sequence of a tranime antagonist falling 30 ft to stab her with an overcompensating sword
>>738792394>in the main seriesKEK!Thanks for confirming I was correct, it was NOT the first FF game in Europe.Eat shit, you dumb nigger.
>>738776147I got spoiled by the back of the case and cried.
>>738792492ok so which FF released first in europe? I'll wait and accept your concession in advance, zoom zoom.
>>738785668Even in 90s it was ugly.BoF 3-4 was more beautiful
>>738776147preferred tifa, was rude to aerith when i could. no impact.
>>738776147None, because I was an adult when it came out.
>>738792579Final Fantasy Adventure on Gameboy.Played it before FF7 launched.
>>738792620Average subhuman
>>738792207Because she was impaled by Sephiroth?
>>738792620BASED BASED BASED
>>738792432Not showing sephiroth stabbing anyone, lacks context, doesn't advertise the feature of put your dead girlfriend to rest in an ancient city, seems like eurotism.
>>738792741>See a dead party member on the back cover>"It's not a spoiler tho":/
>>738792449Compared to zack mowing down 1000 shinra troops while memories of his important people play, somehow surviving long enough to delivering an anime speech to cloud and getting dragged to heaven by angeal yes it's subtleZack's OG death - now that is subtle
>>738792661>final fantasy adventure>palit was called mystic quest you fucking poser
>>738792313>"...quite possibly the greatest game ever made."This was quite ballsy to put on the back of a video game cover back in 1997. People don't really understand today that back then gaming was still relatively new and 3D gaming only was just really beginning to become good. Also we didn't have the same mindset on these review publications or reviewers we do now. As kids we would have seen that and went oh shit it must be true I am getting this game then.
>>738792831Was it a FF game? Y/N?
>>738792918no it wasnt you retard, it was part of the mana/seiken densetsu series lmao, it was rebranded as final fantasy adventure in the US for brand recognition. I accept your concession
>>738792817Logically speaking, as an S class he shouldn't die that easy and he should've said something to Cloud to motivate him to become him
>>738776147i got banned for spoiling this scene using spoiler tag on a discord>after remake part 2 release
>>738793026>Final Fantasy adventure isn't a Final Fantasy gameYou'll have to prove this claim true, go ahead. Do it now.
>>738776147>Annoying personality>Forced on the player constantly>Doesn't even last the entire game (pointless to level her up)Really her death only made me angry for using her in my first playthrough
>>738792680So? You think imposters can't have scars? Especially considering Cloud's working theory is that the imposter would be a molecular, memory-eating shapeshifter.This shit is retarded, dawg.
>>738776147this is aeris>>738781172this is aerith or whatever, i don't care
>>738792867They were right about it
>>738776234>He had internet when he played FF7Lol zoomer
>>738793314you're exposing yourself as a turdie if you didn't have internet in late 90s
>>738784378All tifags are ugly and low IQ it's true
>>738791675>third FF ever released in the USSo how does this make me a secondary to the FF series, exactly?
that positioningim surprised he didnt decapitate her
>>738790208It's hinted she might be playable if that leak is correct at all. That's hype
>>738776147Her death didn't have an impact but all my crushes were based on aerith. I was a lot like Cloud as a teen
>>738791898Your translation is a meme, the book says the cure is in the church, they already got cured dumbass.
>>738792620Until you were forced to see suicidal Cloud in the sequel?
>>738793519because nobody in their right mind who lived during that era didnt jump on the very first 3d adaptation of popular franchises. you'd know if you were there.
>>738793645Kyrie is also supposed to be like Aerith which I can't imagine. Did she mature a lot in that novel
>>738793701>sequelThere was a sequel to FF7? What game?
>>738792087You sound like a loser, sadly.
>>738793168Guess he couldn't do it.I accept your concession.
>>738793714>Did she mature a lot in that novelNo.
>>738793746the movie is a sequel whether you like it or not
>>738793848>Not a gamethen it's not relevant. Sorry.
>>738790268>>738793848Why are you like this
>>738792234And that's clearly not who he wanted.
>>738793884why? the writers decide what is canon, not the media.
>>738776147the impact was mildly shocking but what makes it impactful was the dialogue and the impeccable song timingand the song carries over to the fight + cloud letting her body rest in the waters. Modern square can never do it like that anymore
>>738793949Show me where the writers of FF7 said the movie is the canon sequel to the game, and I'll accept your answer. Otherwise, no.
>>738793968the song playing the entire sequence, battle included was definitively a strong touch
>>738793714What? She literally tells you she insulted Aerith to her face, that's the opposite of what Aerith would do.
>>738793884Rebirth is a sequel and Cloud has a full-on meltdown there.
>>738793297Even though its not my personal favorite game of all time its still way up there and in my top ten. I got to agree with you anon it was the right call on their part to do that. The genre was at least popular for a time and its largely thanks to that game.
>>738793968>bugged sephiroth soiface
>>738794071Yes as a kid, but in the present day she is like aerith
>>738793968aeris' corpse should have been tits up on the floor in the fight with jenovacloud should have released her in the water face down and she should have just floated there
The took my Aerith from me :,(
>>738794141it wasnt bugged, sephiroth was going on some tirade about godhood and cloud cut his jrpg villain dialogue and screamed about aerith.
>>738792667>Average subhumanthe affection system creates an illusion of narrative branching where tifachads investing in tifa, felt like they were steering the story, but they were actually just customizing the surface of a predetermined arc where aeriths death is the emotional centerpiece. in an alternative universe we would have a true tifa wifu storyline.
>>738794141psx field models didn't have mouthsthis is PC revisionist garbage
>>738794021https://web.archive.org/web/20160303213509/http://www.rpgamer.com/news/Q3-2005/090105b.html
>>738794253>tifachadsno such thing. Just midgets and fatsos
>>738793919>Fanfic movie>>738794253/thread
If all that 'defy fate' shit turns out to be nothing I'm done with square enix, I have tolerated their failures enough.
>>738794253story that ends with cloud wanting to be with aerith no matter how much you invested in tifa
>>738776147Most overrated moment in gaming history.
>>738794253imagine if the girl you romanced was the one to die
>>738793709>I did thing, therefore you must have done thing too, otherwise you are a secondary!I accept your concession.
>>738794538You will still buy part 3
>>738794538>he kisses the horse
>>738794678They already said AC will tie in not be the endpoint. No one wants depressed mailman again, not even SE
>>738794713Isn't that the rat girl from 9?
>>738776147Still fucking hurts today, I want the option to be with Aerith even if I have to die in-game. Beats having to be miserable without her like in AC.
>>738794678"Link up", not "end up like".
>>738794761Nobody attracted to adults played 9.
fact: no one that owned and played the OG calls aeris aerith
>>738793714If she was Cloud would be obsessed with her.
>>738794926Aerith is the correct name. Only losers without a functioning frontal cortex fail at changing it
>>738776147i was a kid. first concept of death. it bothered me a lot. spent a lot of time trying to bring her back because i couldn't believe people die.i could have been anything else by the way. there's nothing special about this scene. just my first narrative death.
>>738795145Well Evan is a lot like Cloud and he is obsessed with her
I want someone to stab my pussy with penis like that
>>738794926fact: she's always Aerith ever since Tifa was still called Aoyama Misao >>738529352 in a actual 1993 porn and not yet exists in ff7 universe.>>738777754
>>738776234>Never used her or cared about her at all.She's by far the most powerful healer in the entire game.
>>738790662I feel like devs are ultra paranoid about having aerith in a fight game since they don't want her hurt
>>738794753>>738794857Not even trying to convince you. You are too far lost.
>>738795921>connect toAlready did, pay attention
This thread really exposes the retards who lurk in this board.Of course it had a huge impact on me as a 10-11 year old. The story sets Cloud and Aerith up as the romance. Aerith has much more going on than Tifa, being an ancient and all.You see her and Cloud bond, while Cloud struggles to bond with anyone else. Then he attacks her at the temple and if terrified to go find her - because he might hurt her again.She tells him not to fall in love with her.Then we find her praying and yeah, we all know what happens. Cloud’s breakdown, fighting Jenova with the music, and the water funeral afterwards.It was a big moment for me because I was enjoying the game as a narrative, the same as a book. I was immersed. It was sad.Everyone talking about Tifa, or Phoenix downs, or switching party members were just treating it like a game. These games are about the story; if you’re not going to get invested, there’s no point.
>>738795968Let's wait for the third game like Nomura said.
>>738796032Surehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKm0bcEgbbs
>>738796032Nomura said OG and Remake is skippable. Rebirth is actually a perfect place to start.
My beautiful wife
>>738796554is dead
>>738796387Shame Rebirth still couldn't break 2m in sales even after that
>>738796681Source?
Can you believe that rebirth is more than 2 years old already?
>>738796735SE never announcing 2m sales milestone.
>>738792120My gf died in a car accident. It took you 2 years to get a new gf? Fuck you faggot lol.
>>738796763And still they cannot explain the 2 Aeriths in the ending
>>738796681I'm okay with baseless positive speculation but if you want to say something negative you better believe I'm demanding a source.Just don't ask me for a source that it sold well in response.
>>738796635She's cetra so that's impossible
>>738796970Probably a source that it has sold more than 2m?
>>738797005That's a big sword
>>738797005So where are all the other cetras? Her mom?
>>738776147After playing Xenogears, I knew it would never be surpassed so I didn't bother playing this.
>>738797106Alive in the lifestream. Aerith literally talks to her multiple times
>>738797050It has sold over 2m but I told you not to ask for a source. Only negative posters need to provide sources.
>>738797136Show one time she did that
>>738776147Had it spoiled via EGM's online chat room before the US version came out so it lost all the impact. This Nei's death in Phantasy Star II affected me more.
This is an Aerith thread?
>>738797293Here's an even better one, she communicates with multiple cetra
>>738797390A wack one but yes
>>738797529Not her mom. Bonus points for vagueness and not talking to any cetra. Even Zack is more real than that.
>>738797681>aerith clearly communicating to other cetra>doesn't c-countpathetic reply
Square enix has invested too much of the story hinting their reunion to not follow through. Specially to please people that don't care about the game or the story.
Also here she says she still hears her mom's voice talking to her
>>738797789>I have a strange feeling>talking with her dead momAlmost as funny as Zack not dissolving in the lifestream because he obtained the gift of the goddess in CC by fulfilling the Loveless prophecy
>>738797789nta, but I think if she had spoken to her mom we would see it mentioned somewhere. Cetras can also dissolve, it's possible her mom did. Aerith chooses not to so she can look over Cloud and keep an an eye on Sephiroth.
>>738797912You are coping hard
>>738776147nonethe early 3D of 7 didn't really sell the cinematics for me at allthis scene in FFT hit me 1000% harder
>>738797853Cloud just left her in the ending of part 2. All he needs to do is turn back.
>>738797946see >>738797885
>>738776147I didn't care that much about Aerith. The scene that really got me was the revelation that Cloud never was in SOLDIER.
>>738797885Yeah, once, a long while ago, it's entirely possible her mom dissolved after seeing Aerith was safe with Elmyra. Nothing indicates she didn't, in fact the lack of more comments suggest she's passed on.
>>738797912>lifestream >gift of the goddess >Loveless prophecyman ff7 is so gay, just anime trope after trope
>>738795634Bitch literally got impaled on a masamune and died.
>>738797912wut? Is this your headcanon?
>>738798082yes and it's meant to be a tragedy duh. It's like if jesus was in a fight game, christians wouldn't be happy even if some would think it's cool
>>738798082Something they refused to show in Rebirth.
>>738797987At least I'm not stupid and claiming that there are other cetras but only Aerith the halfblood is the only one who cares enough to save the world from the lifestream.
>>738776147I was legitimately too stupid to know what was happening and didn't care
>>738798067She literally says she still hears her as an adult
>>738798126How do you explain Zack not dissolving into the lifestream?
>>738798206Aerith is the most important cetra by the simple fact she is the one you play and interact with. It's very autistic for you to pretend millions of other cetra are actually equall to her. She is basically the MC for cetra
>>738798269He does, he comes back temporarily to help Cloud, probably with Aerith's help, since only Aerith and Sephiroth can maintain themselves there, because she's a Cetra and his will is the strongest.In EC they retconned it to SOLDIERs not dissolving easily and he leaves with Angeal, a bit bullshit, but whatever.
>>738776147Not really that much because I had already experienced that people can just die and disappear forever at almost any given moment.Or maybe that's not it, because I was pretty much always in team Teef. idk what I would have done if the big tiddy action girl childhood friend had kicked the bucket.Anyways Mileenia in Grandia 2 got me much more than this scene. yeah I know she comes back in the end.
>>738794538She will obviously be saved
>>738798486Aerith is not yet dead in Rebirth but Zack is kicking around in the lifestream.
As a kid, Aeris's death made me cry.Now, as an adult who no longer has a father, Red XIII's story arc in Cosmo Canyon makes me cry harder.
My Aeris.. fuck you square
>>738798181But Rebirth is a sequel. How would someone dead be killed again?
>>738798638We are literally seeing a Zack that didn't die in Rebirth, wut.
>>738798409So you are indirectly acknowledging that all cetras have been disalsolved into the lifestream. Only Aerith is left to save the world
>>738793968Bah! FF7 is overrated
>>738798754If he's not dead then how can Cloud have his sword and the fake Soldier persona? Zack is dead.
>>738798741Huh? Rebirth is a repeat sequel.
>>738794713
>>738793968
>Aerith is best girl>no Tifa>no Yuffiefuck you all Cissnei is best girl
>>738798890Dod you miss the other Cloud and Aerith in Zack's world? Where Avalanche is dead and he's alive? Did you play the game at all?
>>738797005Seeing the PS1 models in Remake is strangely soulful I don’t know how else to describe it.
>>738798741Cloud's mom died again
>>738799130All in the lifestream. Cloud having the buster sword and fake persona is proof that Zack is dead.
>>738786407This would go hard
>>738799214So Avalanche is dead in the lifestream? Wut?
>>738791052Junction filtered too many scrubs
>>738791052Dammit posted the wrong picture
>>738799389Yes. In the lifestream world, Cloud never joined Avalanche because he's still with Zack. If Zack is alive it means Cloud can never become a fake merc. Barret and Tifa and Avalanche attacked Shinra HQ on their own and found Aerith and they all escaped together and ended up dead except for Aerith. Not that hard to piece these together from on screen evidence.
>>738799527still slightly upset 27 years later
>>738790390Peak!
Aerith only has a good ass that's it
I haven't played the vanilla version of the OG FF7 in many many years. Every time I replay it, I play the New Threat 1.5 mod. The original is just way too easy and boring. I honestly don't remember exactly what it's like to play with the original balancing.
>>738799601It's another timeline, where did lifestream come from? That's not how that works
>>738798409nta, but lore wise Aerith is the most important cetra simply because she is the last one and she is the only one who can activate the white materia to counter sephiroth. Of course sephiroth presenting a planetary level threat at the same time as the last cetra is alive is a bit ridiculous but you can say that about any fantasy story
My wife
>>738799692It's not a different timeline, it's just the lifestream. Keypoint here is that Zack is dead. He should be in the lifestream. Therefore if we are experiencing aything from his point of view, it should be the lifestream. Once you remember that Zack is dead, everything just flows.
>>738798797>all cetras have been disalsolved into the lifestream. Aerith literally says they didn't.
>>738799901Once you understand he is not dead (yet) in the other timeline, your theory falls apart.
>>738799901Have you played remake? Zack survived his last stand in one of the timelines. It happened after you defeat that big arbiter of fate.Also nothing flows because in your theory marlene, cloud and elmyra are all dead as well
>>738790208>>738793531She reminds me so much of Kairi, only done better.
>>738791052Maybe if rinoa or squall died it would
>>738799965You think that by defeating fate, Zack from several weeks ago is somehow revived in a different timeline together with his own Cloud and they somehow got transported into the future when the Midgar escape happens. That's cute.
>>738800237>I will overcomplicate things the devs don't even think about and be autistic about it>It also makes sense for dead and alive people to mingle in the lifestream for some reason>also biggs manages to die in lifestream itself and joins double lifestream now
>>738800073The alternate Zack who was a few months late to come to Midgar with Cloud?
>>738800104Kairi is Zack and Cissnei daughter
>>738800628>he thinks time needs to make sense in a world where you literally fight the manifestation of fate itself and join pocket dimensions like edge of creation and white voids
I will defy destiny for my wife and you can't stop me.
>>738800420Everyone dies in the lifestream world experienced by Zack. Barret, Tifa, Biggs, etc.
>>738800738Yeah time doesn't make sense in the lifestream
>>738800792No only biggs died after seemingly giving up on his life. Zack does the opposite and keeps living.Marlene and Elmyra are fineCloud is KOd Aerith is KOd
LEMME TAKE A SELPHIE
People try to deny it out of fear, but my happy ending with Aerith is coming.
>>738800917Doesn't matter, it's a version of the lifestream that Zack is experiencing. Like I said, the one thing we can be sure is that Zack is dead, because Cloud has the buster sword. So whatever Zack is experiencing is the POV of a dead person.
>>738786407Would Aerith have Limit Specials like Cloud?
>>738801175Zack is alive and Cloud doesn't have the buster sword in his world. Why would cloud experience marlene and elmyra talking to him? This is giga retardation rkun
>>738801242Because that's just Cloud peering into the lifestream world that Zack is experiencing? A parallel world where Zack is alive that got split at the point when fate was defeated cannot exist simply due to the fact that Zack is dead in that point in time. It's even a paradox because Cloud defeated fate using Zack's own sword.
I love Aerith so much bros
>>738776147Yes, can't think of a more impactful scene, honestly. But I wasn't spoiled before her death, so.
>>738801471So tell me what's the point of zack's lifestream experience. For some reason he interacts with marlene and elmyra a lot. Randomly interacts with biggs to. Cloud and Aerith are kod for him. He sees red sacrifice himself to help Aerith.He gets told to heal cloud so he can save aerith. All this is just irrelevant lifestream shenanigans?And why can cloud even see in zack's world? Sounds like a complete headcanon
>>738801657Because Zack obtained the gift of the goddess which allows him to not get dissolved in the lifestream, tying back into how he can be around in AC. Always tie back to future canon works to make sense of stuff.
>>738801808That doesn't answer why he is doing what he is doing in his world or the point of those scenes
>>738801808So Zack's endgame will stick be this?
>>738801841To have an adventure or explain what he had to endure or his parallel struggles against Sephiroth. But it all ties back to what I said previously.
