I'll start>Dark souls 2>Deus ex 2>Devil may cry 2
No you don't understand, Dark Souls 2 is bad because you can choose to make your character more nimble via stats, just like in other popular RPGs such as Morrowind and Deus Ex.
>>738779296Deus ex explains those stats to the player, it doesn't hide them behind obscure captions like ds2 does
>>738779781So true. Mousing over the skill in Deus Ex is much more obscure than.... mousing over the stat in Dark Souls.... somehow....
>>738779179Feels good to finally be playing the DS2 that was promised to us 3000 years ago.
>>738779781you are fucking retarded
Imo dark souls 2 was designed to be a sequel to demon souls not ds1, the penalties upon death reducing the player's health is a mechanic from DeS, vendrick the king in ds2 has more in common with Allant, both are disillusioned royals, you can fight both of their carcasses, you can talk to them, the lost bastille seems to be inspired by the prison of hope, the iron keep is probably what they wanted to make in DeS with the dragon area that was cut short
>>738780270looks even worse lmao
>>738780583>"looks even worse lmao"
>>738780270>Gema de vidaWhatever you say, favela bro.
XIV and WoW
>>738779781DS2:>Agility: Boosts ease of evasion and other actions.Dude Sex:>Swimming: uhhh you can uhh swim swimmerer the more of a swimmer you become
>>738783303Dishonest poser, it's called adaptability not agility and that's not what it says, it says >Attribute governing agility and all resistances (not defences). Also boosts poison bonus and poiseWhere does it ever mention evasion or iframes
>>738783303Deus ex:>Swimming: You swim faster and hold your breath longerDS2:>Adaptability: Increase agility>Attunement: Increase agillity>Dexterity: Doesn't increase agility
>>738783628good job outing yourself as a secondary retard who never played the game, adaptability just raises agility which is the real stat that affects dodge i-frames and estus speedyou can get the same result leveling attunement since it improves agility too
>>738783628Who is the genius who thought about shoving the most important stat in the game at the bottom of a leveling system with a vague description that doesn't tell you what it really does, the dev behind this game just wanted to fuck the player, how can we fuck with the player as much as possible was their philosophy when you compare it with all the ganks they shoved, it suddenly all makes sense
>>738783867>runs across the enemies like a fucking retard and gets punished for itwhat's your point of posting that webm exactly?
>>738783628Agility is a stat, too. Think of it like cause and effect, the former being ADP and ATT, both of which increase AGL. Every stat has its own in-game explanation, you just have to press the 'help' button in the player menu.You don't get precise info wrt i-frames, true, but don't pretend like it's an issue in 2026. >>738783752You do see which minor stats are modified by the major ones in the level up screen. NON-issue.
>>738783850>agility affects dodge i-frames and estus speedAnd where is it stated ingame?
>>738783303If swimming was a DS2 stat it would be:>Swimming: You swim better.
Dark souls 2 sucks and it is NOT because of ADP
>>738783867none of fromslop games mention i-frames, so yeah, they are shit and fuck with the players, how 2 is different?
>>738783947you're an illiterate nigger
>>738783898Where was i supposed to go? the tight room with no space or stay in the open space to tackle the ganks and no they pop the second you enter the ship, man why are you shills so dishonest, i genuinely feel like some of you never even played it especially when someone critiques an area, you just bring up bs excuses like>well you shouldn't have tried to explore>why did you aggro an enemy>you should have predicted the ganks coming out
>>738783992I mean, that would be better than whatever the fuck "normally", slightly increased" and "moderately increased" mean.
>bro just predict that a boss fight will pop out of nowhere while you are evading enemies
>>738784262the spider won't disappear until you leave the area or get her health bar to 50% so you can simply avoid her until you kill the enemies
>>738779179Fallout 3
>niggers crying over not getting clear and concise in game descriptionsDid you faggots even play dark souls 1?Almost every person I invaded in the early days tried to use the black crystal to get rid of meDried finger gave zero explanation of what it didResistance was literally a useless statIt took years before anyone really knew the mechanics behind vagrants spawning
>>738783867>with a vague description that doesn't tell you what it really doesit says it raises AGI. and AGI description is pretty straightforward.
>>738784404people expect sequels to improve things
>>738784451I don't want that, I want it to become more esoteric and retardedly obtuseI miss when they wouldn't even give clear details of what they changed in the patch notes
>>738784118>Where was i supposed to go? It's a straight corridor and no they pop the second you walk forwardThe only dishonest ones are braindead retards like you
>>738779179Phantasy star online 2Theres a brigade of shitposters in the ffxiv community againt it. /v/ is an xiv board
>>738779179RPG Maker games5 replies in that schizo has to remind everyone how dumb they are and continue arguing for hours
I think this thread has effectively proven you can't discuss DS2 on /v/
>>738784121>that would be betterNo it would not.
>>738784262With DS2, once you assume that every blindspot has an enemy, pulling one mob will pull five and every location that could be an ambush is an ambush, you're golden. The health gems make things easier though. I don't know why they thought you should be able to hold 99 (purchasable) health gems that heal you over time on top of your Estus was a good idea.
>>738779179i wish we could discuss Dark souls 2 on /v/ all we have is ds3 fags endlessly seething about some mechanic that has been in the franchise since demon souls
>>738784610Nope, sorry. The skill explanations in DE1 are non-sensical. You swim better if you raise the swimming skill, that's obvious, that's what skills are. How are the levels different from one another, I don't know unless I try them out in-game. The descriptions add nothing to my understanding.
>>738784554I actually like DS2 despite it being the weakest in the trilogy but I would monkey paw that shit away and take the consequences because DS2fags are intolerable faggots with a victim complex.
>>738784072Boost ease of evasion>Well, OBVIOUSLY it gives you 1 more invincibility frame at every random irregular valueYou swim a lil bit faster, faster, and then a lot faster>NOOOO WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN I DON'T UNDERSTAND Retard.
>>738784927>blames ds2fags for being intolerable faggots>not the constant stream of mouthbreating retards spouting straight up falsehoods non-stopok buddy whatever
>>738784984>moving the goalposti accept your concession
>>738785072I will rage fap thinking about you.
>>738785103that sounds gay as fuck anon
>>738785005>n-no you can't criticise me without criticizing this other group firststop being gay
>>738785140>A happens therefore B happens>noooo you can't point out that B only happened because of A, you're supposed to only hate on B!stop being a faggot
>>738785270>You don't understand. I'm only a faggot because of something that some else did, it's not my fault!! Or you could control yourself and take responsibility for your own actions. Jesus, why are you so fucking pathetic.
>>738783303I recently found out that most of /v/ have 10 hours max in it and some barely played, deus ex 1 is the lain of vidya, the most unplayed shilled game here
>>738785479you know what, on one hand, that's fairon the other, you were the one who came into a ds2 thread, so what the fuck were you expectingif you don't want to see stupid shit stop going places with stupid shit, take your own advice and take responsibility as well
>>738785724I used to play it every year, usually around Christmas time but I haven't touched it in a couple of years.
>>738785874No, I came because it's a 'Games you can't discuss on /v/' thread and I actually like Deus Ex: Invisible War (although you need the mod that removes all the loading screens) despite it being a shadow of the original game. Unfortunately for me, 90% of the posts were about DS2.
All you gotta do is put 20 points in adp. Dudes on reddit theorycrafted this a day after the game came out. How long are you guys gonna cry because you can't google?
>>738786384>I heck love games where I have to look through reddit for the correct answer
>>738786502Every good rpg has complex mechanics that you can either discover yourself through experimentation or learn about through the collective knowledge of your fellow gamers. If you don't want to learn about stats and breakpoints you should stick to ball and gun games, nigger.
>>738780270pardo
>>738786954carried the sequel on his back
>>738786879>Every good rpg has complex mechanics that you can either discover yourself through experimentation or learn about through the collective knowledge of your fellow gamers.Or you can just play the game without being a min-maxing (possible tranny) autist? I played Oblivion for years perfectly fine and so did everybody else. Then some retard crunched the numbers and made a video about how it's broken and suddenly it was declared 'unplayable', despite it being the exact same game as before. So no, I'll fine without the help of predittors and pedos thanks.
>>738779179all of them
>>738787150*beI lost.
>>738779179>deus ex 2what to even discuss
>>738784262that boss only appears on ng+ cycles. it's based that they throw a wrench in your gears like that.
>>738779179Any Xenoblade game that isn't 2The Enel trooncord immediately comes in to shill how every other game in the series is bad and 2 is a masterpiece
>>738779179The Three Forbidden Ds
>>738787150Correct. You can beat ds2 without minmaxing your adp for 2 more iframes or whatever. There are deeper mechanics for people who like rpgs however. That's what they call game design.
>>738787817>>738787817>You can beat ds2 without minmaxing your adpTentamentYou can beat metal slug with 1 credit but why should you?
>>738784523I wish I could play demon souls PS3 with a fucking mouseGod I hate controllers
>>738787332That’s more because you faggots can’t talk about 1 or 3 without also bitching about 2.