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I have never felt emotional pain like this. I didn't know there was themes of euthanasia and suicide.
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>>738780036
These are themes every FFXIV player can relate to
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>>738780036
i suppose it resonates a lot with trannies
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>Join FC
>A few days later they invite me to raid and do mount farms
>Decide to go, what the hell, right?
>They ask me to join VC
>Instantly, there's a few things wrong here...
>There is what sounds like a female voice, singing to some shitty ass hip hop music that for some reason everyone else is just ignoring
>Multiple people talking over each other
>"Oh hey! It's (you)! Welcome to the raid"
>Hey... nice to meet y-
>"OH MY GOD! ARE YOU (you)?"
>what the fuck?
>"I've been waiting to meet you! I heard a lot about you!!!" says the voice of the biggest tranny I've ever heard in my life. The nasal yet forced attempt at sounding female. Like a failed gay-man or something.
>I already want to leave
>Ask why
>They proceed to ask me a dozen questions about my political leaning, my psychological neurodivergence status, and even what kind of meds I'm on.
>I'm not on any meds. I have no metal problems. I just hate Jews. That's it.
>Figure they're just fucking with me. They've got to be.
>Give joke answers
>They get silent
>"Umm... We're serious. We need to know if you're a good fit for our fc."
>Leave VC on the spot.
>Try to leave the FC but they kick me out first. Like they were fucking waiting to do it.

I'm still pretty baffled about the whole thing. Happened yesterday. I didn't think it was actually that bad. But it is... what the fuck.
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>>738780475
>>738780398
ff14 not wow
>>738780943
shit that didn't happen
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>>738781131
I may be an Incel but I'm not a liar.
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But enough about wow players and blizzard devs
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>>738781131
i can't play a single session of ff14 without an lgtbgabcdfeg guilde advertising itself. dont know why you have to deflect so hard as if it was mutually exclusive.
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>738781131
>nuh-uh and didn't happen
Weak bait. No (You) 4 (You)
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>>738781131
Oh honey, don't you know? FFXIV is the tranny game and has been for 6+ years now at a minimum. WoW has nothing to do with it ^^
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>Want to level jobs
>No exploratory content in Endwalker
>Occult Crescent is lvl 100 only content
>You HAVE to either run dungeons, fates, or slowly get there with dailies.

I actually miss Bozja.
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>>738781131
I don't doubt something similar to this happened but its probably exaggerated to a degree its hardly recognisable as the original story.
There was one FC I was looking at where one of the 'rules' was to not vote Trump.
Political leanings aside, I would rather just not deal with that the guy is a cunt but I don't need to jack off over politics every 5 minutes, I have /v/ for that.
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>>738781486
I've actually seen worse than that playing this game over 5+ years now. That shit is tame compared to what I've heard over the years.
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>>738780943
that's the first step in their grooming/"egg cracking" playbook. Good on you for noticing the love bombing and abandoning ship
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>>738781363
WoW is getting and official pride event thoughbeit.
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>>738780036
>mfw Tesleen got the light bukakke
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>>738781443
do the new deep dungeon
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>>738782049
FFXIV has a gigantic population of homosexuals and trannies. Take one look in /xivg/. It's a microcosm of FFXIV's playerbase.
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Kissing moonies
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>>738782571
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>>738782679
It's cute how you say "b-but WoW". Your game is dying and infested by trannies playing second life :3
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>>738782679
>wow has faggots so our faggots dont count
how russian of you
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>twins abandon garlean community (lol) to travel with us
What was the point of all that?
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>>738782571
FFXIV has something far worse than Fags and Troons.
It has Biological Women.
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>>738780036
Shadowbringers fucking sucked and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.
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>>738783581
It didn't suck as much as Dawntrail, that's for damn sure. But I think it was better than Endwalker for sure.
Content-wise, Shadowbringers blows Endwalker out of the fucking water.
And the story was obviously better.
Wait, now that I think about it, what the fuck was bad about Shadowbringers? It had Bozja which was really good and engaging for the majority of players.
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>>738783484
We had few women in our fc before it died during DT, they were normal and married. It's also in European server, burger women might be more insane.
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>>738783724
Shadowbringers was the beginning of homogenization.
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>>738781131
I quit xiv years ago because of shit like that becoming commonplace, you're either delusional, don't play at all, or play the game like it's singleplayer and turn your chat off.
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>>738783793
classes playing the same since ShB isn't really an issue with ShB
devs have just been lazy with it for about a decade now
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>>738783749
American women are basically subhuman creatures who go insane if you imply they shouldn't be allowed to kill their own babies and have a body count of over 0.
I'd settle for the former if I had to give up the latter, honestly. I know UK girls are absolute whores. All of them.
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*coughs up blood* I have cancer... Levin disease. Please don't out me in a squirrel doll.
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>>738783841
Yeah I'd say this is the thing occurred, really. They got lazy as fuck. With 8.0 the guy behind evolve mode looks like he's young and not a fucking boomer, so there's hope.

Boomers can't die soon enough. Fuck Boomers, the cocksucking retards.
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>>738783895
Sorry male Zero, it's incurable, into the squirrel you go.
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>google the name change cost in this game since jew enix wouldn't let you check it without logging in
>get this
nuke reddit
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>>738782871
ff14 doesn't have an official pride event.
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>>738783895
>We can't put Calyx in a female body, marry him, start a family, and grow old together.
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>>738783980
Because he isn't a faggot. And he's sick you fucking freak. HES DYING OF CANCER, sorry "Levin disease" It's ff14's equivalent.
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>>738782571
But that’s not true, and quite literally all the retarded trannies in that general all came from /wowg/
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>>738783965
no shit it's not made by western devs you retard, yet the western player base sure seem hellbent on making faggotery an official part of the game
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>>738784037
>But that’s not true
what's up with you trannies and constantly denying reality?
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When do I get to see the funny squirrel doll on the free trial?
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>>738780036
idk if you are serious but yes SHB is peak. Like if it clicks with you, it doesn't get better than this. Seriously this shit got me crying, you can tell how fucking soulfull that expansion was from the very first cutscene. You can instantly feel the tonal change on that intro compared to everything in the game before it. And then it never lets up. Square Enix's magnum opus.

I'm not one to feel nostalgic or anything but if I could I'd go back to SHB launch in a heartbeat.
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>>738780943

>be in FC
>mainly because BFF invited me
>They static 3 times a week, top 10 static on our shit server
>in discord one day
>mention I saw a beautiful girl at the gym
>translates to KILL ALL TRANNIES, KILL ALL TRANNIES
>they lead a hate campaign on discord so bad I have to leave
>only issue is I already changed my in game name, noone knew who I was
>insane witchout leading to 20-30 people getting kicked
>make a joke about how wouldnt a trans person change names to avoid punishment
>static leader changed name two days ago
>whole FC disbands, noone ever able to static again

But why do girls dress like whores at the gym
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Ok Dawntrail, you won.
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>>738784113
It's their coping mechanism. Don't be so hard on them. They're fucked no matter what, and you're not a hero for trying to pull them out of a hell of their own making. They'll just crawl back in on their own.
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>>738783841
Sure, but shb is when they removed shitloads of things. Mp, tp and aggro management, debuffs like piercing, jobs became more focused on finishers too. Maybe all of that was just busywork, but it was beginning of everything.
Massive player increase during shb probably didn't help as Yoshi probably thought they were going in correct direction and went mad with it in EW.
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>>738784179
Doesn't that area turn to dull gray shit after you're done with it?
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>>738784113
2+2 isn’t 5 no matter how hard you seethe about it
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ZeroCHAD here from last night. Here's my Eureka progress. While I did kill Pazuzu, I was 1 level under the requirement for getting the feathers sadly but I DO have Ryunohige +2. Idk if i'm going to play tomorrow because league patch I want to play but Pagos soon.
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>>738783581
Shadowbringer is full of Edgy shit, no wonder that zoomers and millinals love this extension.
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>>738780943
I find it pretty odd people will say they see me all the time in game despite me never speaking to anyone, they'll say something along the lines of "Oh I see you here all the time." Okay, so fucking what? Say hello don't catalogue me like a psycho.
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>>738784179
I fucking hate this fight. I still don't understand it. Can I not walk through the rose bush things?
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>>738784240

I don't want finish Dawntrail because of this... damn this music..

>create best area in FF14
>full melancholia and nostalgia
>destroy it

man... it's fking hard
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>>738784240
You turn it back on for some reason like two patches later.
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>>738784276
"Oh I see you here all the time." is them trying to break the ice and segue into a casual conversaiton you fucking autist. That's them saying hello.
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Say Hello to your new Female Lead Translator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98cphkWwh98
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>>738783724
>MSQ is bullshit about opening up an already finished plotline, but now with a random nonsensical timeskip to justify a shitty knock-off of two FF11 plotlines stitched together (Abyssea and Wings Of The Goddess)
>You're in a completely different world but don't worry your Scion friends are all here and have actually been here for years because the Crystal Exarch is a dipshit
>Emet-Selch is a mediocre main villain who is entirely predictable from start to finish, yet we're somehow supposed to pretend we feel bad about the immortal omnicidal ghost wizard because a fake person in his fake city told us he's sad
>Stormblood did a good job setting up how (You) are not the only WoL, and that there's numerous other heroes with the same sort of blessing out there. Shadowbringers tosses this all out to say you're the most bestest specialist and coolest WoL ever because some dickhead thousands of years ago became (You).
>Eden is a fucking terrible raid series where half the fights are filler, and not even good filler at that. Gaia is a terrible character who they tried to emulate Squall with in a fraction of the time VIII takes to develop him.
>Nier raid lmao
>Werlyt series is actually good
>Bozja was neat in concept but ended up dead within like a month of release because it lacked reasons to keep doing it
>Started the asinine diminishment of the setting turning Hydaelyn and Zodiark into just being big Primals, leading to the abhorrently awful lore of Endwalker
Endwalker was bad because Shadowbringers started the decline. Dawntrail was worse because the asshats in charge didn't know what to do after they rushed Endwalker out.
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>>738784541
They need to stop hiring women for shit that matters. Stupid assholes.
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>>738784269
>Idk if i'm going to play tomorrow because league patch I want to play
God that sound so boring
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>>738784541
A real woman, she seems alright. I'm a year into learning japanese so hopefully in another year or two I won't have to rely on translations at all.
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>>738780943
Post a single log or any sort of proof that this actually happened.
You won't.
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>>738784037
First of all that's incorrect as many of the most notorious attention seeking trannies never touched WoW. Secondly it's an irrelevant point because everyone came from somewhere before touching this dogshit game.
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>>738784527
I'd say in any other time frame you would be correct but it's obvious when someone is trying to dig around for drama or gossip.
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>>738784541
this video had a different title last i saw it. "what people got wrong about localization" or some apologist shit
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>>738784541
Watched the entire thing. All she does in XIV is sing some songs.
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>>738784821
Yeah I get it, that shit is really easy to navigate once you stop giving a fuck about it though. Just have to not get invested when the schizo babble rears its head.
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>>738784817
You don’t pass
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>>738784541
>She is the Bee My Honey singer
all is forgiven
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>>738784541
>New
She has been at S-E for a long time. She doesn't translate stuff in XIV, she's just a singer for some of the tracks since Stormblood.
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>>738784541
Just when I started to have hope for the game.
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>>738780036
ARR 3/10
HW 5/10
StB 4/10
ShdB 7/10
EW 8/10
DT imnotpayingforthisgarbagelmao/10
Wow arena pre-Shadowlands 10/10

/thread
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>>738784541
>>738785607
This is not the gotcha moment you think it is
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>>738785697
You said the same thing when Kate was revealed.
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>>738785607
I'm just glad F/G translation is based on Japaneese script instead of the English one.
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>>738780036
>I have never felt emotional pain like this. I didn't know there was themes of euthanasia and suicide.

I still think about that 40 something year old IT guy who landed a 26 year old goth baddie who had herself put down just because she had depression.
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>>738785750
Let me explain to you, WoW player, how these are two completely different scenarios.
First of all this woman isn't even a translator for XIV.
That's it.
Wow that wasn't hard to understand, right?
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>>738785873
I've never played wow before, but you have in how you typed it 'WoW'.
Secondly you said this exact same thing before with Kate. You like this new chick because she has a cute voice, which she does but I don't trust any woman working in localisation with the same hair cut as Kate.
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>>738785981
It's wednesday you don't need to bait this hard until the weekend. But I accept your concession.
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>>738786038
You've made that post before.
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>>738785620
>Wow arena
Good job outinf yourself as a colossal faggot, I almost took your opinion seriously for a second.
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>>738785981
It's a strange phenomenon that the biggest most cultist defenders of anything and everything that FF14 does, are former world of warcraft players.
You can spot them easily when they act that way compared to a normal FF14 fan.
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>FF14
>14
Stop replyng to yourself
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>>738784774
If it's a XIV FC it's very possible it happened. The game is filled with all kinds of fucked up people. I've seen people try to recruit actual female players to join a harem and it had nothing to do with RP.
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>>738780036
shadowbringers is way overrated
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>>738786483
>I've seen people try to recruit actual female players to join a harem
Based
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>>738785783
>Sphere is clearly an triple A
>Fanart keep giving her big juggs

Sometimes less is more, people!
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>>738786979
I honestly don't care what they do to fake Sphene.
But real Sphene is heavily pear-coded with those slutty jean shorts.
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>>738783581
Shadowbringers didn't suck.
It's just highly overrated.
People only remember the good parts of the story and slavishly brush the rest under the rug.
And since half of the community joined after the worst parts of the coof affecting ShB (nearly 6 months of Shiva, a bunch of content nixed), it never happened to them, which in turns afflicts the other half that did experience it with brainrot to make them pretend it never happened either, in order to maintain the self-serving and self-perpetuating delusion that "Shadowbringers was peak".
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>>738780943
this happens to me a few time when subbing for ultimate statics. After the a while you just stop joining vc.
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>>738786136
It's okay to be casul... or not. Don't get upset tho, casul.
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>Hate fake Robot Sphene
>Really like real Sphene

I think it's because Robot Sphene was a retard, mixed with her motivation being really, really dumb, and her interactions being not with the Wol mainly but with Wuk Lamat. I couldn't connect to her as a character.

Compare against Emet Selch, he had plenty of interactions with other characters but also made plenty of time specifically for the Wol which made connecting with his character far easier and understanding his motivations, being sympathetic of them far easier.
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>>738780036
word of advice: don't sympathize with the Garleans
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>Ishikawa is back and writing Evercold

Oh yeah - we eating good boys
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>>738787464
Robot Sphene was a glitching AI who seemed uncanny above all. I thought she was at least cute looking when she was the only one with her design, but then we got real Sphene, and it became a real clear case of the real one just being vastly superior, so there was no need to ignore the negatives Robot Sphene had. And with a real, flesh and blood version stood next to a project facsimile, it only made Robot Sphene seem even weirder. Like an animatronic that isn't quite right.
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>>738787580
>Evercold is back and is writing Ishikawa
Oh good - we eating boys yeah
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Pretty ok fight
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>>738782863
It's cute how you say "b-but XIV". Your game is dying and infested by trannies playing second life :3
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>>738785142
WTF IM HER FAN NOW
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The whole "we create living beings for the lulz and then just poof them out of existence if they're not useful or interesting enough lmao" and Hermes' autistic meltdown about it unironically resonated with me a lot. XIV up to the end of EW is probably my favourite FF experience, or at least in the top 3. I know I would have obsessed over it if I played it as a teenager.
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>>738787580
>Ishikawa is back
Ahh yes, fujo kino is back on the menu.
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>>738786483
>"Prove it"
>"I c-cant but my h-headcanon says it may have!!!"
I mean fuck, any FC that has any kind of "special conditions for joining" or is for "[insert minority]" has literal warnings and disclaimers all over it since those types love to fucking peacock their special snowflake status all over the place.
The idea of joining a random FC and getting subjected to what that fictional greentext story posted is possible but highly unlikely. By design, lefties and faggots and trannies wear their identities on their sleeves. You know what you're getting into if you apply to any FCs that contain them
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>>738787580
>Bring back the fujoshitter who destroyed the setting in the first place that will fix everything
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>>738780036
Shadowbringers is emotional damage. End walker is just fucking WWII Germany after they lost.
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>>738782863
>our game is dying and infested by trannies playing second life :3
we know
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Started playing FF XI yesterday and I was surprised by how many other newfags are running around
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>>738788918
Do WoWtroons really?
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>>738788465
Probably would have helped if this point wasn't made by flying super shitbulls.
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>>738788982
For some reason XI started trending on social media - maybe in connection to the release of the last alliance raid.
And people got nothing to do in XIV so they try something new/old over there.
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>>738787464
>That quiet moment with the WoL and Emet after you got the people of the 1st to band together to help get a rundown elevator back online where he commends your ability to unite people to accomplish great things and muses about how it would have made (you) a great conqueror with your capacity to turn those who were once against you into allies.

There's a lot of good 1-on-1 scenes in the MSQ but this one was always one of my favorites, it was probably the closest Emet got to turning face of his own volition before having that glimmer of hope lost when we started throwing up light aether.
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>>738788465
Same desu. The three dead civilizations in Ultima Thule got me. Sure I know the story was mainly trying to get me to feel things for my party members and their heroic sacrifices but the three different takes on civilization death; and then the Dead Ends dungeon taking this subject further really struck a chord with me
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>>738788997
Nah, this was a XIV refugee.
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>>738789171
>Likes Draenei
Lmao nice try. Only OG WoWcoomers find those retarded blue goat things fuckable.
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I feel like the XIV story literally fucked itself by making the ascians the ultimate cause of everything
There is nowhere for the story to go from here that would be a good pivot unlike XI where you literally killed a fragment of one of the two creator Gods in the 2nd expac and yet the game's glory days were after that
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>>738789079
There is unironically more people playing FFXI right now than there were 10-13 years ago. I think they've had to close down 3 servers due to player congestion over just the past 2 years? (Which is also something that hasn't been seen in over a decade.) I think in general there is just a resurgence in old MMOs. It really makes me wonder if SE will one day remake/remaster the game proper since they're rebuilding the source code for it.
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>>738787464
>Compare against Emet Selch, he had plenty of interactions with other characters but also made plenty of time specifically for the Wol which made connecting with his character far easier and understanding his motivations, being sympathetic of them far easier.
Actually, while I'm no hardline DT hater, that interview YoshiP did at some point after 7.0 where he said they explicitly pushed Sphene to kind of be Wuk's Emet-Selch and really focused on their specific relation and dynamic still makes me raise a brow to this day. Why did he think it was a good idea to say that, "yeah we kind of tried to do a similar thing to what we did with Emet-Selch, but SPECIFICALLY for Wuk and Wuk alone." Who thought it was a good idea to even do that in the first place?
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>>738789384
This only really applies when you're overly concerned with superficial tags, rather than the weeds of the actual narrative.
And whether we'll be dealing with Ancient/Ascian things until the end on the game depends on how long the game will last. Currently, it seems like we're in the "inheriting the world from the ancients and having to fix their shit" stage after removing them from the stage. If there's any XIV after that, there's plenty of ways to make it not involve them.
It'd also be pretty jarring if we just had like four or more Ascians running around but they just never showed up anymore just because Zodiark was gone.
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>>738789435
Wuk was just supposed to be a character that WoW/The Player watched having a way more condensed and simplified journey that WoL went on throughout the story. DT always felt like an interlude with them trying to have WoL take stock of things before the next big adventure. They absolutely fucked it up but I can see what they tried to accomplish
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>>738784385
the whole theme of the expac is learning how to let go anon, you gotta do the same
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>>738789629
>It'd also be pretty jarring if we just had like four or more Ascians running around but they just never showed up anymore just because Zodiark was gone.
Not really because if they were relevant enough to effect anything they would've, you know, shown up during the fucking arc where their entire goal was unwinding
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>>738784385
Just keep going, anon.
You bring it back more beautiful than it was in 7.3 anyway.
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>>738787580
>Ishikawa is back
resubbing
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>>738787580
meh overrated
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>>738788982
is that FFXI roguelike you can play in your browser still a thing?
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>Reaper is the Poster Job for Ever old
Yeah, I'm thinking we're fucking back
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>>738789171
>ffxiv player leaving ffxiv and playing wow
That’s probably the least believable thing ever anon like legit 1/10 bait see me after class level
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I dunno now that I'm thinking about ShB and EW. There was a lot of early dropped plot threads that bothered me. Going into Despair -> Voidsent was kino as all hell but it seemed to not matter after that arc. Getting fucked by the light was also neat but then "oh I guess you just used up all the light that was fucking you up and now you're all good I guess."

There's just a lot of that in ShB and ESPECIALLY EW that it annoyed the shit outta me. Why even have a build up for something if you're just going to wave it away.
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>>738789746
Ascians are people and can have plans and interests that aren't glued to rejoining Zodiark and the shards.
Hell, Fandaniel already showed that (albeit in a more destructive way than intended by those loyal to the Ascian cause).
Plenty of ways to take them that don't have to involve muh Zodiark. Halmarut, too, doesn't seem to be glued to the old plans of the Ascians, anyway. She just wants to make it so not everyone ends up dying. There's Gaia, of course, but she's an amnesiac teenage girl with powers she only barely understands, so I don't count her.
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>>738789642
I can buy that. But even then, they should've known it was not the smartest idea to make the WoL into some figurative pouch hanging off Wuk's belt being dragged along on a journey where the WoL barely mattered and the writers literally made sure to have them be ignored by the expansion's main villain so they have said villain focus almost entirely on Wuk.
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>>738789907
>Going into Despair -> Voidsent
Anon, that wasn't voidsent. It was terminus beasts (though some did indeed share models with voidsent because lol reuse).
It stopped happening because we stopped the Endsinger from shitting galactic dynamis waves of resentment all over Etheirys.
Voidsent are just the denizens of the Thirteenth warped by darkness the way Sin Eaters are with light.
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>>738789384
We still have 3 more left of them being unaccounted for and azem so people are still wondering about them and they are the culprit for 99% of things happening
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>>738789774
ishikawa natsuko or stoneriver summerchild as i like to call her
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I find it funny to see how tsundere /v/ is over Ascians when they were the ones going "THAT'S ALTIMA ISN'T IT? IT'S ALTIMA?? THAT'S DEFINITELY ALTIMA'S SIGIL IN THE ARCADION ART! THAT ENIGMATIC MAIDEN GIRL HAS A WEIRD SYMBOL ON HER DRESS THAT LOOKS LIKE ZODIARK I BET SHE'S ALTIMA" the moment DT concept art dropped.
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>>738789907
The payoff for the end of ShB was realizing that the reason Hydaelyn kept Ardbert's soul from returning to the lifestream on the First was so he could instead merge with yours to counter Emet and by association Zodiark's plan. The subplots of "What's the deal with Ardbert's ghost haunting me?" and "Am I about to fuck myself and turn into a sin eater?" converged with the answer to one plot ending up being the solution to the other.
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>>738789907
The funniest part about EW is that 99% of the world would be able to legitimately be forgiven for thinking the "Final Days" were just fake news that never actually happened
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>>738790229
>oh shit is that a soul fragment of my brave little spark
>uhhh you have to stick around for a little longer. your help is needed
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>>738790230
the one-two punch of us never really seeing it spread to much of the star (other than in role quests) other than garlemald and thavnair and then dawntrail completely brushing it under the rug sucked
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>>738790229
Also if you’re thinking you would be like “ wait does that mean we can merge with other fragments from other shards and how will we do that”
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>>738789107
Love that moment, everyone working together and Emet having a one on one with you. He knows who you are a shard of and wants nothing more than to be with his friend again but his mission is far more important.
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>>738789975
Agreed. I think they wanted an MGS2 approach where the main character acted more like a grizzled mentor for the "new" character in order to show another side to the main character
They just forgot that MGS2 also sucked
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>>738780943
>>738781951
>>738786483
If this actually did happen, this must be some kind of creepy NA thing. Because I've never seen ANYTHING like that on my OCE server. No trannies or mention of them at all in my FC chat or anywhere else.

I was on JP before that and, unsurprisingly, exactly the same.
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>>738780036
>needs a trigger warning for shadowbringers

i want to see this guy stream endwalker
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>>738790418
Still waiting to suck up the real Golbez's memoria. Just give it up, Durante. He's never coming back.
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>>738790346
Think it only hit places with really unstable aether leylines
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>>738789907
The reality is that it is likely that nothing has been waved away. If it was mentioned and then not expanded on its likely going to end up as a future plot point. XIV is pretty notorious for setting up plot threads way ahead of their actual relevance, making their introduction seem a bit jarring but very much explainable in hindsight.
Best example is the Warriors of Darkness in Heavenward. They turn up for a patch, act antagonistic and mysterious and then are quickly "dealt with". Nobody during patch 3.1 ever expected or imagined the role and relevance they would have in the story until ShB made them the literal subjects
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>>738790640
True, where the aetherial currents are weakest, and then spreads out from there, but it really doesn't sell the idea of a giga-apocalypse if it mostly affects two zones and even the place you go to next expansion was completely unaffected.
Not so much an Endwalker as an Accidentsaunter.
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>>738780036
The game looks terrible, everything looks like its made of plastic. The community has also become insanely weird over the years, the game is full fo weirdo fucking leftists and furries.
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>>738790491
>be me
>actually like mgs2
oh... okay...
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>other thread dies at 150
>instantly another one up
XIV generals belong on /vg/
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>>738790309
>I can't tell you why you have to stick around though
>Enjoy wondering as the faintest of ghosts and unable to interact with people or the world around you for decades!
In hindsight, Hydaelyn maybe should have clued Ardbert in more. That dude suffered a comical amount
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>>738790573
I unironically can see that happening next patch story quest and that lets us control the portals better after we get it
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>>738790836
>Instantly
This thread is over 5 hours old you silly retard
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>>738790747
How would you know what the game is "full" of?
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>>738790838
all she said was that he still had a part to play
>WHAT FUCKING PART
>HEY
>WHAT PAAaAAaAAAIEEEEE
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>>738790890
I did dude
Why is XIV exempt?
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>>738790859
>Golbez is a powerful mage capable of teleportation, telepathy, and mind control,
Fair enough!
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>>738780943
Why are wallace mains like this? gromitchads would've told those troons to fuck off
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>>738790838
>>738790953
To be fair Hydaelyn had like, maybe 5 minutes worth of time left in the battery of her Minfillia skin suit and had a flood to stop so it's not like she had the time to really explain. The time frame of her and the WoDs stopping the flood all happened mere moments after we last saw them in 3.4.
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I hate the memoria plot line
In a world where having your fucking soul return to the crystal is the only way to properly "die" zero just routinely kills voidsent and then they fall into the fucking abyssal sky void so what those people are just fucked forever now I guess? lmfao
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i've never met a tranny on EU but then i don't really talk to anyone anyway
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My man is too autistic for this
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>>738780943
I joined a random FC when I initially started playing back during the WoW exodus.
I was hesitant to join their Discord because I don't use Discord to begin with, but I ended up doing it eventually. It was a pretty nice FC, the owner was a 40 y/o mother of 3 from New Zealand, and she was super nice. Sadly, I took a break, and it seems like they kicked me out while I was away. But I'm still on their Discord, and it seems to be dead. So I guess the FC just died
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>>738788104
Can I still learn the fight in pf or do I have to follow some dogshit guide? Two weeks for a primal is probably too much
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>>738791056
No ovaries, Grommit lad!
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>>738791197
I’m on the same page, i joined a FC basically 3 days after starting and they’re super nice people, mostly because all of them are like 35+
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>>738790042
I was like why are you talking about EW when I'm talking about ShB but just realized I used the wrong terminology so that's mb. I meant the Sin Eaters.
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>>738790829
that anon is just baiting
if DT took literally any inspiration from mgs2 the solution 9 shit would be completely different
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>>738780943
I would call bullshit but I've never been in an FC so idk how unhinged they are.
I've been in raid statics before and from what I can tell there are some people that seem like they never interacted with a human before, but their behavior was the opposite of this.
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>>738791193
I wouldn't mind if they brought back Moenbryda. They arbitrarily killed her for no reason, that warrants an arbitrary return does it not?
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>>738790734
well yeah but that just makes it feel like ass. like you wouldn't retroactively call 3.1 kino because ShB followed up on it.
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>>738791865
we're well past the point where that would be in anything resembling good taste. stormblood at the latest

on the roe front though, i'm a hoary boulder believer. he'll be the new tank job for EC
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>>738789907
the whole light thing is just ardbert making you a better cup for aether, increasing your capacity to maintain it so you can actually fight hades, you then expend it all to kill him in the traditional fashion except by making an axe instead of a sword
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>>738791942
Evidently since they closed the book on her in Endwalker. Still was a shitty thing to do.
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>>738791084
True but she could have at least said something like who he was waiting for.

Then again, as we found out in EW, Hydaelyn wasn't some omnipotent god. She was just a woman doing all she could to keep reality from falling apart
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How did non-FFXI players feel about our Zodiark?
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robot speen's dress is really hot tho
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>>738791993
could be worse, like the "enemy" NPCs in the 89 dungeon
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>>738792115
leaky
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>>738781556
Plz share some tales.
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Mummy don't know daddy's getting hot
At the body shop, doing something unholy
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>>738791689
>>738791689
Solution 9 playing out like Arsenal Gear would have been fucking kino though
>Spheen turns up "Turn your PC off right now, WoL"
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all this cold shilling is almost making me want to play again but then I remember it's going to be the same methodic sterilized shit with dogshit pvp I've been logging onto for the past 9 years. what's the fucking point of paying a subscription for this?
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>>738792791
>PvP
>In an MMO
Anon...
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>>738792791
Evercold will have huge changes to multiple areas of the game. How do you get
>it's going to be the same methodic sterilized shit
after seeing 8.0's plans?
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>>738792962
Because yoshitpiss cannot take any kind of risks with this game. They won't fix the netcode. They won't fix the SAME EXACT PROGRESSION SYSTEM and HOMOGENIZED ROLES they've been using since Stormblood.
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>>738790747
I'm going to tell you something and you won't like it:
All MMOs have trannies.
Even the old ones you revere and consider beyond reproach. Those are just filled with GDQ type autistic trannies.
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>>738793050
>Yoshitpiss
You give yourself away too easily
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>>738792115
>literally some suicidal nut
You know, in hindsight, it makes sense that Fandaniel ended up piloting Zodiark.
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>>738791204
Yea I just learned the fight yesterday https://wtfdig.info/75/ex8#hector
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>>738793050
>hey won't fix the SAME EXACT PROGRESSION SYSTEM and HOMOGENIZED ROLES they've been using since Stormblood.
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>>738792491
that's the point I was making
Solution 9 is built on the "what if Alexandria ended up like Terra" idea but has zero payoff for it and barely attempts to actually subvert anything meaningful from IX
the whole manufactured soul business could've easily been used for another pinch of meta bullshit to follow up the end of EW and the fact that the last trial is in a digital space could have had any amount of bullshit, like faking out dcing as a time stop mechanic. But none of it's there because the entire expac is neutered as fuck you begin with
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>>738791942
So far since the advent of Trusts as a whole we've gotten 1 new proper scion added to the Trust list per expac, 6.0 adding Estinien and 7.0 adding Krile. I believe in Hoary Boulder too, he's been with the Scions since ARR, and depending on how serious SE really is with the MT/OT split we need a proper MT Scion for Trails with Trusts that isn't G'raha arbitrarily filling the void to complement Thancred as an OT Scion.

We're definitely getting a new Scion added to the trust party, I believe that the scene in the EC trailer with the WoL, Estinen, and Aphinaud jumping out of the portal was cut deliberately to hide the missing tank Scion to fill the light party, since that scene only features 2 DPS and a healer.
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>>738792115
Was a pretty cool fight and for some reason healers fucking love to die to him
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>>738793050
Then why bother us with it? Just move on with your life.
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>>738793313
What about no scions at all
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>>738793050
>yoshipiss
>couldn’t even go one post without outting himself
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>>738793240
>Suicidal nut
Paradise was being slowly infected by Emptiness
by killing himself (After succing up all the Emptiness) he was trying to get rid of it to save his waifu
Then his waifu, overcome with grief and trying to revive him, destroyed Paradise which created the world the games take place in
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>>738780943
you're full of shit
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I love that YoshiP is so dedicated to the game, it's hard to find main devs who actually give a shit about what they're workign on
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>>738793481
? that's not at all what happened
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>>738793313
It's going to be Zero lmao
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>>738793541
i don’t really like square giving it more attention to xiv, is like being focus by the eye of mordor
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>>738793625
Unfortunately it's one of the only non-mobile gachaslop games SE has they is actually profitable, so I'm glad they're giving it some more love instead of diverting its budget to their other failed experiments
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>>738793541
I feel like at this point he's honestly willing to move on from it, but he can't.
Dawntrail was a soft-preview of what happens when the old guard leaves. Yoshi-P was the last one to stick around, and I feel even he only did so partially, preparing to have someone take over for him as well.
We all know how that went because we're talking about it daily.
Ergo, Evercold, which probably has YoshiP's full involvement, Koji Fox, and presumably (but not certainly) Ishikawa.
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>>738793597
Zero sexo
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>>738793583
Uh, yes it is. Promathia is suicidal because he's trying to get rid of the Emptiness. He "Tries to kill everyone" because the Emptiness is in every living being due to Altana splitting the mother crystal with his corpse
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In my headcanon The First is just Florida, because of Lakeland
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>>738793796
true
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>>738793050
But we already have confirmation that its 100% changing.
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>>738793756
i guess that’s why he is trying to give the stage to mr happy on the fanfest, people need a new face for when he retires.
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>>738793816
I thought purple people were a California problem
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>>738793796
>The moment when she goes back to her reaper outfit
We are so back
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>>738793756
He's retiring if EC is a success.
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>>738793796
I bet it looks like a Sarlacc pit down there.
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>>738793425
Well we already know that the Scions are coming with us from the trailer. The next Trust avatar could be someone new (then again, Estinien is barely a Scion to begin with given how often he shirks his responsibility)

>>738793597
Zero is too married to their responsibilities in the Void, she's the only person the other voidsent really trust given how the others were thinking about how tasty Golbez's soul would be if they didn't know he would absolutely destroy them in a fight. We've also had a trend established since HW (arguably ARR with Yugiri and her Ninja teasing in 2.2 well before Ninja's release in 2.4) of using the MSQ as vehicles to tease the next new job coming in the next expac. HW ended with Gosetsu as a walking talking teaser for Samurai, Zenos became the teaser for Reaper for EW at the end of ShB, Krile came out to tease Pictomancer at the end of EW, and I fully suspect 7.55 to include a teaser for one of the two new jobs for EC. The only expac that bucked the trend of SB but at the same time SE just directly teased Gunbreaker in the very first trailer for ShB with Thancred and his gunblade.
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>>738793813
I'm so sorry, for some reason I thought you were talking about 14's story. Please disregard, I suck cocks
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>>738793870
.. M... Mr Happy? No one that isn't Japanese is ever going to be the director and producer.
>>738793926
I think he's going to finish this new saga that'll probably span 8.0, 9.0 and 10.0 to try and gain people's trust back, and while that's ongoing, find staff to replace him and the rest of the old guard.
Probably do what they had been intending for EW and DT but maybe try a little harder to make sure they're actually somewhat competent, and not people like Hiroi and Kate.
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>>738793945
gimme that void pussy
voidussy
vussy
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>>738793813
Still saying: his intention is to kill everyone, regardless of his reasons.
And I find it funny that the XIV version of the same kind of deity isn't suicidal, but ends up being taken over by someone who is suicidal and wants to kill everyone.
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>>738793945
>I bet it looks like a Sarlacc pit down there.
a man can dream
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>>738780036
Both HW and SB had on screen suicides. Did you just skip those scenes? Or do you not mind when a character you dislike does it?
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>>738794150
>it would
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>HW - alphinaud expansion
>SB - alisaie (and lyse) expansion
>SHB - graha expansion
>EW - estinien expansion
>DT - krile expansion (lmao how did that turn out for her)
EC will be her expansion
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>>738794290
EW felt like Alisae expansion
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>>738794290
>EW - estinien expansion
???
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>>738790543
Yes, na is rife with trannies. Thank you for stating the obvious.
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>>738794290
EW was the Emet expansion.
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so is there a particular reason why people would refuse to kick an offline player after 10 minutes?
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>>738794290
EW was the WoL expansion
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>>738793541
it's nice that he seems to care about his project but it would be great if he had balls and principles instead of kowtowing to the loudest voices in the community and crying to reddit all the time
unnerf the fucking promathia floor
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>>738794396
I'm torn, they fund the game way more than normal people, but seeing them around and interacting with them is literally torture
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>>738794428
NA playerbase is just overly nice sometimes, to the point of being doormats. Just throw some capslock around and they'll fall in line and kick the player
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>>738794428
If my morals met with your approval would you no longer resent the outcome?
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>>738791971
>_>
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>>738794561
>our buddy is having disconnection issues
>i don't want another person rolling on loot

only two reasons i can think of
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>>738794521
Its fine in game chat/pf. But when you are in call with a mtf, they almost always have 0 voice training and sound like men.
When its an ftm it just means they like dinosaurs and playing the isle.
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>>738794428
Players can't be kicked during the first x minutes or while loot is being rolled on.
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>>738794290
This post gives off someone who skipped all of the story in ffxiv
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>>738789264
cap
https://i.postimg.cc/DFdCj8Q9/media-HG8G0-tas-AAk13A.jpg
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>>738783067
Garleans dropped as a plotline for a second time
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>>738794612
i know. i waited specifically to avoid that
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>>738780036
Please, apply
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>>738794776
NEVER ASK A WOMAN HER AGE
A MAN HIS SALARY
A DRAENEI PORNOGRAPHER TO SHOW THEIR HOOVES
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>>738794051
i was referring to the guy that is going to rework all jobs, didn’t remember his name, my bad
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>>738794951
Mr. Prime.
Hikaru Tanaka.
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>>738793989
People believing Hoary Boulder will be using the new tank job.
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>>738794882
The hooves make it better.
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>>738789696
>>738789759

urgh........
No, im not crying...
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>>738794290
bro she's in leader jail forever now
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>>738795369
I too was crying at this part.
At how bad it was.
Jokes aside, I do wish everything in DT including Living Memory was handled better. Living Memory probably has the best (as in most melancholic) atmosphere of all the "dead civilization" places, but it's hard to untie it from its story.
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>>738795513
My Sphene body pillow has been blasted with enough cum that it can stand on its own now, this is a sign that she'll say "j/k lmao" and abandon her station and join me to the new expansion where she'll be even more clueless and have no dialogue because she can't offer any meaningful advice and has no idea what's going on.
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>>738795520

I can't believe they rushed two such important and different storylines into a single expansion. Especially since the latter theme is stronger than Meteion/Dynamis and that stupid "power of friendship" thing.

On one hand, the glaring lack of character development for Zoraal Ja and Wuk Lamut. On the other, a theme as powerful as death and memories.

What a waste overall.
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I need to level a healer that isn't WHM. SCH or SGE?
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>GOSSAN I NEED TO HELP, ESPECIALLY IF CALYX IS INVOLVED. THAT MAKES IT MY RESPONSIBILITY AS WELL!
Things we'll never hear said by Sphene, even if we wish it did.
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>>738795929
SGE I guess. SCH and AST have been ruined over the 2-3 expansions.
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I've been playing the same exact game for the last four expansions. Why would it be any different this time?
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>>738795929
SCH
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>>738796101
evolved jobs nigga
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>>738795882
They ended any kind of character development for real Sphene abruptly too, why even bother with her then, they could have introduced Calyx without her.
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>>738796101
they acknowledged the bad design of the last four expansions
whether they have the balls to commit to change is to be seen. gas all 2 minute faggots
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>>738796136
I'm still mad SCH lost the battle commander theming for fucking gay ass robes... angel(?) stuff with Seraphism
God, I hope Seraphism gets fucking blown up with Evolved
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>>738795882
Honestly, I still liked DT overall for its patch MSQ (except you, 7.1. Fuck you.), Arcadion and general content. But yeah, wasted potential. Looks like the only thing from DT that will matter is Calyx and Ethos. Maybe the Ninth as a concept when/if we start linking opposite reflections together to balance them.
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Proof that Ishikawa is writing EC?
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>>738796461
It came to me in a dream
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>>738796461
Female character died in trailer
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>>738796461
I hope she isn't and they don't fall into the trap of any one employee being their "ace in the hole." I've had quite enough of WoW glazing Ion Hazzikostas or Chris Metzen.
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>>738795929
Sage. It's the coolest healer
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>>738794290
We need Urianger back on the menu. I want him to nerd out on Norsekino.
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>>738780943
None of this ever happened
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>>738796329
>whatever raid EC comes up with will NEVER live up to Arcadion's standards
i'm mad they wasted that on dawntrail and the last expansion with 2-minute meta
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was it kino?

shantotto and promathia were. others not so much
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>>738796897
Felt like they were kinda getting tired of the raid itself
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>>738796897
I think Shantotto owes me sex
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>>738796990
yeah. it started strong. sandoria's first two fights were kinda meh, but kam and ealdnarche were good
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What do I buy with poetics, I have them capped
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>>738797064
Shantotto's fight was oddly uninspired I thought, like she was showing up just because she has to and also a joke explanation for why Bastok didn't appear
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Alliance raids need to lean more on the fact that they're 3 alliances for 24 people total.
Make different experiences for each alliance.
Make alliances rely on each other.
Make mechanics deadlier, there are plenty of ressers.
Stop making fights that could very well just be 8man.
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>>738797154
Old tomestone weapons or items for ARR/HW relic weapons
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>>738797228
there was no way we were doing a ff11 raid without her showing up in some capacity, but her being the final boss would have been too predictable and lame

as for her fight her teleporting fire spells with the blizzard follow up and the meteor phase are good. the stone/aero mechanic is lame
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>>738797474
>halmarut trying to demoralize WoL with unflattering comparisons to zenos
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>>738789408
I don't know if my brain isn't working this morning but why would you close down servers if people are congesting servers?
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>>738797552
capacity issues.

but don't get too excited. server transfers are a thing in ff11. there is an uptick in interest in 11 but its also causing existing players to coalesce
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>>738797154
I’m using mines to buy the mat for HW relic, here is a guide if you want
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbJT9YdZhQ8&t=149s
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>>738797628
wouldn't you need more servers if there are more people joining or am I just fundamentally misunderstanding how servers work?
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>iceheart saying that you are bad person because war is bad and you don’t understand her

BITCH EXPLAIN TO ME YOU POINT OF VIEW, HOW THE FUCK DO YOU WANT ME TO SYMPATHISE WITH YOU IF YOU DONT EXPLAIN YOURSELF
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>>738780036
Ritual sacrifice was in ARR
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>>738797846
woman moment
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>>738797930
we never got to see the tempered people being put to the sword either
although that would've been sick
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>>738797230
yeah, i can't believe that Cerberus has more variety than a ton of alliance bosses from new expansions.
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>>738797748
Sorry bud, I'll clarify what I meant because it confused you. To be more specific, SE has closed down I believe 3 servers from new players (meaning you can't create new characters on these servers), it's identical to how Aether is pretty much forever closed because all the servers have too many players. In FFXI, there's actual open world content, so there is a greater need to curate player populations on servers so you dont have too many players chasing after the same content (although I haven't played FFXI since the level 75 era, no idea how the game has evolved since then.)
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>>738797846
I recall a bit in post ARR where Iceheart and her crew murdered a bunch of merchants but I guess they forgot about that come HW
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>>738798047
that’s my point, she talks about peace that they are mistreated and what not, but so far she has just killed a bunch of merchants and summon a primal, how the fuck do you want me to understand you situation like this?
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>>738798024
Oh I get it now thanks. I don't know why but my brain just isn't functioning correctly today
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>>738796538
LMAO
reminds me of that meme with the native americans
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>Aether is forever closed
erm but i wanna play with my FAGGOT friend in there???
if he could somehow transfer to gilgamesh post-EW maybe the opportunity will come around again haha
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>>738797846
>>738798047
ysayle is proto-bakool ja ja
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>crowned lion and angel bitch bosses from SHB are straight up reused from lost city of amdapor (hard)
is there a lore reason for this or were they just lazy?
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18 minutes avg for the last trial? Are you fking kidding me?
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>>738798427
retcon that you wouldn't ever know about if you didn't read lorebooks, both those bosses were modeled on "visions from other worlds" amdapori white mages received and it turned out they were seeing sin eaters since their magic is light element
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WoL canonically fucked Tesleen while Alisaie cried in the corner
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>>738793245
Thanks
>hector
>3rd pic already pisses me off
Why wouldn't this fucking retard put the pairs on cardinals so that the healers never have to move?
I swear this clown always looks for ways to make things more convoluted just to put his dogshit name on every strat
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>>738798537
I thought white magic was more nature and restorative inclined, rather than outright holy light type stuff.
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>>738798427
same reason why folks on the first know what dragons are, I guess
cross-shard visions or some shit
also don't think too hard about ronka
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>>738798427
That area was part of the conflict between white mages and black mages that caused a previous calamity. Its presumed that the WHMs summoned light aspected aether creatures during the war which just so happened to be whats later known as sin eaters.
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>>738798534
No one wants to hear 'it'.
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>>738798556
It’s mostly for melees that have positionals
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>>738798592
the higher you go up the chain the more it's just light magic instead of nature magic, styling it as nature magic and placing it under strict elemental control is the elementals' attempt at preventing another war of the magi, but canonically ever since bahamut's calamity unearthed a bunch of amdapor ruins there's literally nothing stopping joe dipshit from tunneling around down there and finding a white mage soul crystal
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>>738798670
speeeeen
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>>738798427
Lore, summoned by white mages in the war
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>>738798534
SPEEEEEEN
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>>738798556
Look at me, Hector
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>>738798670
Speeen leesten to meeee
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>EC supposed to hype me up to play/keep playing the game
>it does the opposite
>I was enjoying XIV/DT just fine before 7.5, but after FanFest I've lost the motivation because I know in 8 months the game will possibly be different and more fun than it is now
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>>738798856
Im just going back and completing old goals like solo deep dungeons and eureka. Though it would be more fun as an evolved job sure.
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>>738798856
I don't care because it doesn't matter what they do Machinist will still be shit.
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>>738798956
As a DRG main all I think while playing new (and old content) is "I could be playing this as an evolved DRG instead"
Honestly the reason I refuse to level new jobs right now (I was planning on doing so during DT's lull)
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>>738798956
>>738799071
You could always play FF11 during the downtime
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>>738791204
You can learn the EX just by watching stuff.
Just remember that everything is either light parties, partners, and that there is defined clock spots and you'll get 95% of the fight.
The boss literally telegraphs every attack except one, but they do go off quickly so you need to parse stuff fast.
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>>738798856
Yeah I'm the same. I've got one character who I took a break from at 7.1 and another just starting Shadowbringers, and I feel zero reason to play 'till Evolved/more appearance options/zone changes.
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>>738798556
He's gotten a lot better at adapting what PF is doing generally instead of having everyone change strat on week 2/3 at least.
The worst shit was P8S Natural Alignment where youtubers decided to copy Echo's strat but they never did it themselves, just vibed the strat from Echo's clear video so when they explained it they explained an incorrect, more complex version of what Echo was actually doing which required everyone to potentially adapt vs. actual Echo's strat that only required 2 people to even look at the boss. I'll never forgive you for that Rinon.
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what i'm getting into
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>>738799252
Alexander raid with the junk robot
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>>738799252
enjoy refurbisher bwo
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>been part of 3 fcs over my playtime
>all 3 imploded due to drama
>stayed fc less for endwalker
>get dozens of whispers out of the blue as i play
>often in the nature of fake nice or grooming behaviour like
>"Are you okay? why are you not in a fc?"
>"hello there little one! :D how are you?"
>"Wow! That's a nice glam! Are you looking for an FC? ^^"
>"Hey! I see you are not in a FC. May i ask why?"

When i responded to some of them with the reason of wanting to play in peace without pressure they mostly answered "ok. have a nice day!" but some would answer in a way as if they took offence to the idea of somebody not wanting to be in a fc as they wouldn't shut the fuck up and kept pestering me with shit like "Haha! I see ^^ But why play alone? You are missing out on sooo much not being in an FC! ".
I have no logs to prove anything but i've experienced so much weird socialising and behaviour in this game that i believe every greentext stories i read about experiences with the mentally ill weirdos that play this game in xiv threads.
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>>738799202
>zone changes.
You mean more visual updates to old zones? Or do you mean until you know what they plan to do with open field zones in EC?
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>>738799160
kokomi WOULD be an underwater au ra
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>>738793864
it's not changing, they're still tomestones but it's weekly now and the challenge log gives them too.
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>>738799315
Refurbisher is kinda fun.
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>>738791197
It's bizarre yet endearing how many non-schizo fucked up in the head people still play mmos and are like 40+ years old and don't have time or patience for drama anymore and just wanna play the game
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>>738799319
>^^
deserved for playing on the filthy yuroid servers. on primal in NA everyone I've met is chill and I've never received an unprompted FC invite in over 1k hours
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>>738798534
>EU
Try putting up a pf, I regularly join them when I see someone doing msq.
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>>738799315
>>738799304
It was ifrit and garuda duo and everyone almost wiped again.
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>>738798534
I queued up
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>>738799690
this niggy is gonna zone in there and the moment he does he's going to yell
SPEEN LISSUN TO MEEEE
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>>738799683
Gwoooh
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>>738798592
The original white mages were actually golem-crafting blood mages (you can see it on things like the Demon Walls which are golems brought to life through blood sigils, and the natural blood sigils woven into the architecture of Amdapor Keep which were then used to summon Ferdiad by the Lambs of Dalamud), but when Mhach developed black magic they entered an arms race and upgraded to using the planet's 'blood' instead. Their golems became more angelic when they started getting visions of sin eaters from across the Rift, and then they developed the holy light type of magic as anti-voidsent nukes.
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>>738799343
I think they mentioned at the fest thing that there was going to be improved zone content too, not just visuals.
I could be wrong and retarded though.
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>>738799827
yeah they mentioned they were gonna have to overhaul normal zones because they were committing to a no-tomestone system and also address complaints/feedback about MSQ zones having shit-all to do in them but hunt trains, treasure maps and gathering
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>>738799827
Yeah, the open fields thing.
They just haven't detailed what it is.
It might be something as small as "more fates" or "fate currency will be worth more" or something as big as "fuck it all open fields are now quasi-field ops"
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>>738783067
They wanted to know how the Mamool Ja went from being pushed back into living in a barren land unfit for agriculture, to building a stable non-expansionist empire.
Now Garlemald's path forward is clear. We must graft a second magic-capable head onto Gaius, conquer Garlemald's neighbors through combat, but then give them soup and not worry about conquering the people overseas as well.
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>>738784561
I'm still mad they derailed everything to throw us into a shitty isekai story. Emet-Selch's story didn't need to be told on the First. There's no reason it couldn't have been in Garlemald. Even Amaurot could have been done in the seas north of Ilsabard. It would have had a lot more impact seeing the empire he considered a meaningless shell of his people before entering the simulacrum of the world he considers home. The narrative through line breaks at ShB. We're no longer exploring our world anymore and we have no motivation to protect it outside of some super hero plot where only we can save the multiverse. There's no personal attachment to the world. Nothing other than the JRPG party they decided to suddenly codify carries forward. It just fucking sucks.
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>>738800083
>no personal attachment
>most popular characters on average in any expac
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>>738799319
honestly i just connect and say good “insert time" and move on, that’s enough for most of my FC
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I think Au Ra work better as draconian like rather than demonic
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>>738800358
Truuuuuuuuuu
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>>738799561
i was on primal during EW and got unprompted invites all the time. one niggerfaggot sent me so many that i tried to locate him in one of the cities and /echo his name in the chat log so that i could block him
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>>738798534
>>738799690
I got a different group...
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>>738800358
Mikittens make the best cock sleeves though
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/v/ belongs to the Fishra blub blub blub
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>>738800292
I look forward to finally being able to make a green crocodile chad.
Hopefully we can use some relatively dull, muted colors with the color expansion options though.
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>>738800394
>*penis music starts blaring*
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>>738796136
it was so funny how SCH got completely vindicated by how broken Expedience was when the expac launched
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>>738800151
They had to speedrun these and focus on them to the detriment of literally everything else. I like Ardbert but he wasn't worth sacrificing the entire story up to that point just to see again. Emet's story could have been told better in Garlemald and G'raha's arc as the Exarch is actually ruined by him sticking around afterwards, making him another Ardbert situation.
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>>738800394
gotta hit that voice language swap macro when you get in if you play in English
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>muh garlemald
No one fucking cared about that shithole and everything involving that place was always the lowest point of the story.
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>>738800523
Endbryos really believe this.
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>>738800523
>Yes I started during COVID, how could you tell?
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>>738784561
>Nier raid lmao
You shut your whore mouth about the best alliance raid in the game.
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>>738800394
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>>738800523
no way dood we all wanted an expansion with 6 garlemald zone
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>>738800523
honestly i have no idea how to make a garlemad expansion with the current power of the WoL
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I'm always happy to get Thaleia purely to hear Llymlaen's lines again
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>>738798534
what did you think of the finale?
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>expansion about land covered in eternal snow and ice
>there's only 1 snow & ice zone
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>>738800631
Do endbryo lorelets still think the Garlean Empire only consists of the capitol city?
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>>738800718
Total garlean death
One sided, unfair, visceral genocide and after the WoL makes love to Alisaie on a pile of garlean corpses
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>>738798752
It's unbelievable, she's EVERYWHERE.

She even appears in the final battle. Even for Sphene's last words. Is she the protagonist, or am I? Seriously, this second half puts her way too much in the spotlight...
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>>738800631
Ilsabard is larger than Aldenard and Othard. There's a ring of provinces surrounding Garlemald.
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>>738800734
well what's the rest gonna be covered in HUH
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>>738800718
we'd probably just be there to rebuild and stomp down anyone who's trying to stop us if we did go there.
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>>738800718
The same way they did Endwalker, but without skipping straight to the end. Going there to save them from killing themselves and arriving too late, and then battling the primal embodiment of their insanity as the final boss.
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>>738800807
thats the standard interphos experience

which is a shame since phase 1 of interphos absolutely fucks
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>>738780943
>Not having an FC EXCLUSIVELY with people you know IRL
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Garlean women owe me sex
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>>738800770
Even the region being a frozen hellscape is an EW invention. There was a ridiculous amount of potential in an Ilsabard expansion but newfags still act like there was nothing there.
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>>738800414
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>>738800807
You have no idea what it was like barreling through DT during early access.
>absolute misery for 40 hours
>get to Alexandria dungeon
>OH SHIT this is actually good and the music is kino
>Queen Eternal eyes (You), teleports everyone else away
>pull out the Azem crystal, Undertale music starts blasting
>KINOOOOOOO
>it's the best final boss they've ever made with mechanics raping shitters still used to EW bosses
>suddenly
>*BOOM BOOM CRASH*
>"speen... listen to me," Wuk Lamat yelled emotionally
>mfw
It was like they let you have fun for once specifically so they could rugpull you in the worst way.
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Why do they have to make Khloe so sexy
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>>738796461
did you SEE that malera in the trailer? Only Ishikawa could come up with a male character that hot
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sex with retard
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>>738796461
During his panel about writing lyrics he said that Ishikawa was the scenario writer requesting lyrics for the Evercold trailer.
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It's unreal how much better DT patch and raid stories were compared to the MSQ
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>>738800554
>ARR is shit
>SB ala mhigger and garlemald fight is the worst part of expansion
Aside from that single moment, garlemald in EW was shit too.
Prove me wrong.
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>>738800576
leave it to /v/ to turn stanning the stooge empire into an oldfag competition
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>>738801203
Garlemald was the only good part of EW. How did you even make it through the game when Garlemald makes you seethe this badly?
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why does this guy hate Garlemald so much? does he just hate magitek?
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>>738798534
you'll realize why once you've finished it for the first time
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>mhiggers willfully lick garlean boot until they're forcefully liberated by the alliance
>immediately put a midlander (lyse) in charge
illberd was too good for them.
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I want a Garlemald expansion for cars and fashion
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>>738801093
give you a reason to engage with the shitty lines
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Stormblood was the Garlean Empire expansion.
We already dealt with them in Eorzea, Ala Mhigo, Doma, Dalmasca, Bozja, and Werlyt. The Imperial Capital had been collapsing under civil war since 2.0, only shortly stabilized by Varis winning, and then immediately collapsed harder from his idiocy and his beast of a son.
We might visit more Illsabard zones later but there would've been zero purpose in stopping by flyover provinces on the way to the Capitol during EW.
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>>738801370
don't engage with the garleboos. they're just rebranded trancers
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the battle role questline finale was amazing and no one talks about how good it was
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>>738795520
For me, it just doesn't make ANY sense
>Die
>Make everyone forget about you
>If you live with a big family you suddenly have to wonder why you have a kid's room full of their stuff
>Can't connect 2 and 2 together and figure out someone important to you died and your memories of that person were erased
>NOBODY finds this fucked up in that society, not even those who were absorbed into it
>Die
>Go to living memory
>Know people IRL forgot about you

Did they explain if you memories get "restored" once you die and go to living memory so if you run into your loved ones you know who they are?

Also
>Living memory is actually a real physical place you can go to
>People just don't go because they got their memories erased and can't visit their loved ones
>Also, people IN living memory can operate drones and interact with those still living but the society chooses not to give them that option
Don't get me started on how Spheene gave full authority to Zoraal Ja, just like that, without having a failsafe to back-stab the fucker.
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>>738801279
I understand now...

NO RESPITE
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>>738801370
>but there would've been zero purpose in stopping by flyover provinces on the way to the Capitol during EW.
There's a hell of a lot more purpose to the march through Ilsbard than there is in Labyrinthos existing at all.
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>>738801442
>Did they explain if you memories get "restored" once you die and go to living memory so if you run into your loved ones you know who they are?
They do, yes.
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I think this is a fallen yggdrasil, maybe it is the 110 dungeon after all.
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>>738799319
>I have no logs to prove anything
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>>738801472
SO SMILEEEEEEEEEEEE AND LET THE RAINBOW SIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNG
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>>738801503
Look at the "sky" in bottom left and top right. They're not real. They're either bunkers or the cylindrical crystals in the giants' chests. This shit is all dreams of the fayth and the giants are Sins.
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>>738801093
Zhloe is way hotter
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>>738801503
I think the tree is this thing, grandma also had a tree with frozen branches on her wall.
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>>738801483
Labyrinthos serves the following purposes
>only feasible way they can give us a Sharlayan related zone because it's an academic country
>part of the running implication that Sharlayan is intentionally modeling itself on Amaurotine society in ways both big and small (including everything in Sage's kit holding a Greek name) by paralleling Elpis
>storage facility for all the shit they're planning to rocket off to the moon, so later MSQ relevance
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>>738801472
So smile and let the rainbow sing
(Red and yellow, blue and green)
Alive with everything it brings
(Laughter, peace, and harmony)
We walk a neverending trail
(In our hearts, we carry hence)
One love, no, it shall never pale
(This is our inheritance)
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why they keep botting german trailers
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>>738801218
The point is that the Garleans were the most important recurring enemy faction from day one. Throwing them away every ounce of potential they had for long term plots on their home continent for a quick and dirty apocalypse plot that can never progress was a waste. There should have been something bigger behind the long time enemy faction who seemed to have limitless resources to throw at us. There were seeded plots about how Varis could barely hold the empire together and was pushing the limits of his rule with military expansionism. The Populares showed up and told us there was a faction behind the iron curtain that was open to negotiation. There was an entire continent to fill out. I'm not saying any of this because I'm a Garlemald "stan". I'm saying this because that's where the story was going until they pulled the plug to end the Hydaelyn arc as fast as possible so they could focus on XVI. Everything before ShB had completely different goals than ShB+. World building actually mattered.
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>>738801750
it's the reich thing to do
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>>738801503
yggdrasil has fallen
billions must die
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>>738801750
Maybe there's just a lot of Germans who like FF14
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>>738801781
fleshing out i think would have gone exactly the same way in the end but with simply more information to chew on, since as far back as ARR they were laying the allag comparisons on really thick

i'm not sure it was actually going to get much deeper than what we got
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>big dumb hyur with a good heart

he's no ardbert, but he might do
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>>738781443
Whats the best way to get to 90 these days? Still Bozja?
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Did people actually want more garlean and eorzean politics? Good thing they started focusing on things that are not as mind numbing as that.
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>>738801915
you almost made it one full thread, maybe next time!
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>>738801370
>why would we stop and liberate provinces during a war?
>why would we work with the Populares to rebuild the Republic of Garlemald?
>why would we give characters like Gaius a logical continuation to his story?
>why wouldn't it be better to fight the Ascian creator of the empire in the seas north of his empire instead of on a different planet?
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>>738801985
>garlemald posting stops for 1 minute when his favorite lala appears

:)
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>>738801781
It's funny because the way ShB/EW newfags think about Garlemald is exactly what we thought about Ascians back then. Nobody gave a FUCK about the Ascians until ShB. They made everyone roll their eyes because they were completely aimless cartoon villains who showed up and did something evil and then cackled for seemingly no reason. Now they're the heart and soul of XIV while Garlemald was "always shit" and "never important" and "who cares".
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>>738802048
>ShB/EW newfags think about Garlemald
Where do you retards come from that think Garlemald appreciation is an epic oldfag thing when "newfags" have to go through the same story
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>>738802043
Womp womp, wrong boogeyman
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>>738801984
I'm glad we got three Marvel superhero stories instead of continuing what they had built up to that point. What we got was so good at making sure the long term stories continue to hit.
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>>738802097
>Where do you retards come from
From playing the game well before you.
>when "newfags" have to go through the same story
They struggle through it and whine and UGGGGHHHH STORMBLOOD... to get to muh Emet muh Venat. They don't care about the game's world as anything but a stage for Emet and Venat fanservice.
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>>738801791
>>738801812
fuck you
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ugh the wait for EU fanfest is tough after seeing the stuff at NA...
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>>738802097
Sitting with a story for years waiting to see where it went next leads to more appreciation than racing through to get to "the good stuff".
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>>738800414
this fucker wants neyuni when he could have yaana
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>>738801984
is a good seasoning to the story, not everything ahs to be world ending treats
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>>738800523
So true.
So glad we didn't get a full Garloid expansion. Was about tired of their garbage Team Rocket shit by the time we got to EW.
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>>738783067
I quit back in 6.1 so ive heard all the stories about stuff like this and how terrible Wuk Lamat is and I gently dont get it. Ive just completed the 3rd zone in DT and so far Wuk Lamat is pretty decent, the player characters more background role is clearly just us exploring new lands like we always did with the excuse of mentoring future leaders (we cant solve EVERY problem and eventually we will die) and finding the city of gold (the main reason we even decided to go to Tural in the first place, really boisters the adventurer spirit).

As for the twins they didnt "abandon" garlemald, the garleans themselves specifically told them they wanted to "pick it up from here on their own terms" after being hard carried from extinction untill they finally god a fucking job (trading with a foreign nation). So now the twins are on "vacation". I would assume once the current arc is over we will all go back to garlemald and see they have pretty much recovered. The mamool-ja in DT are almost one to one to garleans in situation.
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>>738802265
Evidently it leads to sunk cost theorycrafting and game playtime elitism where it makes no sense
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>>738802253
when is EU fanfest?
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>>738802378
July 25
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>>738802350
Wuk Lamat has an insane amount of lines, is retarded, and also NONE of her actions end up badly and she's the worst leader choice who does nothing for the people. She just wants to party and eat tacos while other people go and make hard decisions
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>>738802359
if they can't win an argument they deflect to immutable characteristics. stop giving them attention
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>>738800807
This is how we all felt. Some more passionately than others.
As someone not predisposed to hating Dawntrail, even I felt there was way, way, way too much Wuk.
And even having her hijack the final expansion trial (that was shaping up to be really cool) last moment was like having a wet log of shit dropped in my lap out of nowhere.
>>738801090
Yeah, I actually like the Interphos as a combat experience and the atmosphere is nice. And then suddenly WUK'd.
>>738801421
I did the melee one and it was just too fucking tonally inconsistent for me. At one point, we hear about how a woman got tricked by someone in disguise, brutally backstabbed and left to die, and then we get some Hildibrand lolsorandum sequence.
I do plan to do all role quests eventually for that dumb chuuni emote, though.
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>>738802498
the post calling himself an epic oldfag and his imaginary enemies who don't see why oldfags loved garlemald('s possibilities) are speedrunning to endwalker was a big hint

wasn't it that actual AIDS patient hrothgar player on the official forums that was known for doing this a lot
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>>738780943
Fascinating LARP.
Next time involve some dragons.
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>>738802359
Every time we were given information about a location or culture before we visited we had a huge payoff when we finally visited. Ishgard, Othard, Dalmasca, Gyr Abania, and all the smaller locations we got to go to after knowing about them for awhile felt great even with us having years to speculate on them. Garlemald, Thavnair, and Sharlayan being what they were in EW couldn't have been more of a letdown. Garlemald comes up the most because it was the next frontier and we were literally on the border about to invade before the isekai happened.
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Far Wanderer = Azem
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>>738802278
In a perfect world I'd have both
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>>738801442
>Die
>Make everyone forget about you
>If you live with a big family you suddenly have to wonder why you have a kid's room full of their stuff
>Can't connect 2 and 2 together and figure out someone important to you died and your memories of that person were erased
>NOBODY finds this fucked up in that society, not even those who were absorbed into it
>Die
>Go to living memory
>Know people IRL forgot about you
I don't think it makes no sense. I just think it's miserable. Everything about Living Memory was fridge horror.
>Someone near to (You) dies or is on the verge of death
>Gets taken away by jannies in white robes to be "taken care of"
>Suddenly, all your memories of them are wiped so that you can't feel grief over their loss
>Never mind that you grieve someone exactly because they were important to you, so by robbing people of grief, you also robbed them of important bonds
>They die, and their memories are torn from their soul so that their soul can act as an extra battery for some dude who got hit by a malfunctioning machine
>Your memory gets conveyed to Living Memory to remain there 'in perpetuity' according to plans
>You only get to go through the same motions in the same cold techno-mausoleum dressed up to look like Disney Alexandria to the point that you even begin to grow tired of the same experiences
>Everyone who once loved you has forgotten about you
>All in service of making sure people and their precious memories are "eternally preserved" because of their incomparable value
>For this purpose must other worlds be scoured of life so that they can be harvested to keep this machine going
A walking contradiction and liability. You could attribute this to Calyx being fucked up and it being the entire point of the zone, or the writers being so incompetent they didn't see how these concepts fundamentally clashed.
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>>738802097
The context matters. If you're coming into a story that shifts focus in the third act you're not going to care as much about the first act as someone whose whole context was the first act at the time.
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>>738801472
>hearing Living Memory again
>crying

god damn... and Sphene was the last Itahana character... then quit Square.

I have the feeling that this is a cryptic message telling me that we will never see a FF like 9 again. That's fking hurts...
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>>738801984
Not really, the garleanboos are the XIV equivalent of Indians, sudacas and seamonkeys running "the west has fallen" twitter accounts with Roman/Greek statues as profile pics. It's just role-play
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>>738801503
Another "back in the olden days when everything was good" reminiscing dungeon?
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>>738802924
Ok.... based????????
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>>738785620
>Wow arena pre-Shadowlands 10/10
BfA PvP was the tits. Raiding Zuldazar and open world dueling and fights is probably the most fun I've had when I played WoW.
I'm not even a PvP guy. It was just that fun.
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>>738801984
Garleans had been involved in every expansion as the big bad empire going "rarwreawr savages we conqur u" "o noooo we lose but we'll get u next time gadget" ft. various forms of technology borrowed from a bunch of different FFs that didn't look like they belonged to the same faction.
Their shtick had gotten old.
Endwalker made them more compelling and sympathetic than they ever had been before.
Unfortunately it then spun its wheels in the patches making them squeal about "WE MAY HAVE LOST OUR NUMBERS BUT WE WILL NEVER LOSE OUR PRIDE WE WILL NEVER BE INDEBTED TO YOU SAVAGES!!!" but whatever. They're Alphinaud and Alisaie's little pet project now.
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>>738803131
Maybe they'll mix things up, and the "walking through memories of the civilization before the fall" will be the first MSQ dungeon instead of the last.
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>>738803372
i think the point of the garleans was to be an allegory to the allagan empire, new and strong empire willing to conquer everything to burn in flames with the rest of the world once it reaches it peak, it was surprising they haven’t summoned a god or anything with their beliefs
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>>738803375
Maybe they'll mix things up and the entire first half of the expansion is memories. :>
That's why it's all not-icy looking.
Just kidding. I know it's because they're up in the sky to avoid/survive the cold.
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>>738803372
The answer to previous spotty writing based on three different eras of the game's writing quality isn't to kill everyone and use their city for a zombie apocalypse story. SB had set up a lot of seed plots for the continent. Remember that Ishgard was just stone forts and dragons before we went there proper. Othard was just ninjas and au ra.
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>>738803598
Like the Allagans, the Garleans, too, were just another unfortunate Ascian meme.
>I said their inability to use magicks made them special and superior and that the star was their birthright and they fucking bought it LMAO
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>>738803598
>it was surprising they haven’t summoned a god or anything with their beliefs
Isn't that Anima technically?
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Tarutaru > Lalas
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>>738803890
that was zenos playing around in his dad's organs, but it does illustrate the point of their blind patriotism being a form of faith too, arguably they were even more susceptible to it than average primal victims
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>>738803978
IT WAS MEH
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I dont get how Garlemald has the technology to split souls from bodies and stuff when they cant use magic
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>>738803978
It's not betrayal if you planned it from the beginning :^)
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Garleanfags just bought into the "they are a race of blue-eyed culturally superior aryans that will introduce civilization to the world" meme too hard.
Just like Ascianfags bought into "it was a paradise where everyone was happy and the people of the sundered star are inferior and aren't really people at all" too hard.
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>>738803640
A friend of mine pointed out in the final shot of the EC trailer it looked like the WoL was flying through a thunderstorm to seemingly reach the 4th and ever since then I can't shake the possibility that this might be an SB type of expac where part of the expansion might take place on both the 9th and the 4th with the goal of joining the shards similar to how we linked the 1st and the 13th to counter the aether issues between both. Just like how Light and Dark oppose each other and by linking the two we've been able to help push those shards down the path of recovery Ice and Lightning aether also happen to be opposing elements on the elemental chart, so we might be looking to try the same idea with the 4th and 9th to stabilize them and prevent them from rejoining.

It should also be noted, depending on how you wish to interpret Sphene's fight where she takes you briefly to the other shards, it implies that the 8th and 11th shards are earth and wind based, which are also opposing elements on the same chat.

Sure is funny that the 6 remaining shards that have yet to rejoin the source all just happen to be plagued with aspected aether issues that just happen to be opposing elements to one of the other remaining shards, huh?
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surely both the MSQ and trailer directly comparing us to zenos will mean nothing at all
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>>738780943
Terrible creative writing, work on your prose for fucks sake.
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>>738803598
They were setting that up pretty well. The Garleans were rabid for Allagan technology since the only stability Varis was able to create was through rapid military buildup and conquest. SB's patches showed he was also focused on finding out how to deal with the Ascians since even in his position of power barely holding the empire together he was still a puppet. A Garlean expansion with some parallels to Allag would have probably worked out well. Us stopping Varis from doing something stupid before moving on to Emet who was the real big bad. Amaurot works better in that context anyway. Why would he keep building empires to cause rejoinings? Amaurot is the direct answer. He felt nothing throwing them away every time because they were never his real home.
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>>738804103
the moment the plot started to focus on him while talking about treason i knew something was fishy
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>>738802479
I mean thsts not what I got out of it. She cares deeply about her people and is smart enough to understand what the problem is that they have but might not be smart enough to solve it, which is why she has a ton of allies to help out. Delegation to those in special fields is one of the main things a leader should be able to do.
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>>738804153
>A friend of mine pointed out in the final shot of the EC trailer it looked like the WoL was flying through a thunderstorm to seemingly reach the 4th and ever since then I can't shake the possibility that this might be an SB type of expac where part of the expansion might take place on both the 9th and the 4th with the goal of joining the shards similar to how we linked the 1st and the 13th to counter the aether issues between both.
Possible, but I'll feel like they'll do that to the Eighth and the Eleventh instead. Make that a split-shard expansion.
The Ninth wasn't solved in Dawntrail, but it was essentially broached. For now, I don't think we'll putter around it too much in Evercold. I feel like the Ninth might be to the Fourth as the Thirteenth is to the First. They're opposites on the table, but we didn't do too much in the Ninth and Thirteenth, whereas the First (and now the Fourth) are getting entire expansions.
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>>738803978

you can trust him
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>>738782571
XIV also has a gigantic population of actual women, unlike wow where it's all 30+ year old autists and trannies
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>>738804472
urm ackchually wow is full of 40 year old boomer grillchads
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I will NOT be tolerating any Ilberd slander ITT
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>>738804114
>wanting to see more of x fantasy setting means you want to BE them, right chud?
>you REALLY want to fuck spiders huh?
This is the lowest form of plot discussion.
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>>738804679
zodiark trancers shat in that particular well pretty much forever
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>>738804456
To be fair all the void related content leading up to the post EW patches made it clear that realistically there was not much you could do out of an entire expansion in the void, so it makes sense to me to wrap that up in just patch content. As someone who only came back to XIV after 7.1 following the EC reveal, I thought it was weird how much world building they decided to add to the 9th in 7.4 with the forward context that the next expansion is seemingly about the 4th. Depending on how much the World Tree is going to matter (it should be noted that on the same elemental chart, there's a tree in the middle of the diagram) we also know that the 9th has a world tree from the lore we got of the replica they made of it in Living Memory. Overall it was just a compelling theory that I wanted to share, personally if they do make an expansion split between the 9th and the 4th, I would prefer the 9th to only get maybe 2 zones rather than 3 zones like they did with the Doma/Ala Mihgo split, with how much 9th content we already got in DT, I dont think it needs 3 more zones for it's story.
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>>738804541
Prove you're a true fan by posting 3 different job versions of Ilberd
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>>738804679
Not identifying with them means you can handle it when they're not in the spotlight for 2 seconds after several expansions where they were either the main villain or at least still heavily intertwined.
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>>738804763
They're probably going to try to jigsaw a second Source out of the remaining usable land in the reflections using the Void as an anchor. At least that's the only way a good guy rejoining could make sense.
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>>738780943
>on alt
>get invited to a million FCs, always decline
>one day, I just say fuck it and accept one of the invites
>it's not a fuckhuge FC, just a kinda normal one
>it has a "hall monitor" type guy
>he basically tried to be the novice network
>he is the first person to answer any question
>he seems to sit in FC chat all day specifically to answer questions
>but you can tell he's just googling the question and relaying the answer while pretending that he knows it
>he often provides wrong or outdated information

>parallel to this, I notice they have submarines they aren't using
>they haven't been using the submarines since I joined, which was like 2 weeks ago
>message the FC leader, inform them about fight club
>they message me a day later and thank me profusely, they are extremely happy I told them about it
>the FC leader even wants to give me a present, but I decline, it's just my alt, what could the present even be? I don't need gil
>seem to be in FC leader's good graces from then on

>one day someone asks a question about something that I know about
>I don't even remember, I think it was BLM rotation at the time
>he hastily googles and provides an incorrect answer
>I have never corrected him before when he was wrong, but I correct him this time
>he does the "oh yeah, that's what I meant to say, knew that" bullshit
>it was no big deal to me, I was just providing correct info, but you know it means something to this type of guy
>I already knew that he was offended by being corrected
>go to sleep
>log in next day
>no longer in the FC

And that was my only experience with FCs in XIV. This is why I hate shit like that. Even when I played WoW back in Wrath, I just made my own guild because of shit like this.
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what did you do in final fantasy today?
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>>738804947
committed ritual suicide because i ran the windurst walk three times and there wasn't a single maiming chest
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>>738804947
finish shiva questline and finally doing the 2.5 patch content
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>>738804947
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>>738804819
You don't have to identify with them to think their story was completely wasted. I feel the same way about most of the locations we've visited after the end of SB. Apocalypse stories are inherently wasteful.
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Garleans are just so fucking boring.
>Hi we're the arrogant retard empire that is actually a bad joke by an Ascian but please take us seriously we're here to call you savages and then babble about how we're going to take your land and also most of us are either comically evil or comically misguided or both, and then we're going to lose to (You) basically every time anyway
>x5
The most interesting Garleans are unironically the defectors, and even then, they really glossed over Gaius. "Look, he has adopted kids and there's this other Garlean guy torturing them and making them pilot mechs that will eat them up and he drinks milk like a funny guy and is basically so evil it's beyond parody so I bet you think Gaius isn't so bad anymore by comparison huh?"
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>>738805080
i asked

>>738805030
thats rough. i had a similar experience with striking pieces

>>738805062
what did you think of the shiva trial cutscene?
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>>738805127
it's funnier from the angle that FFXIV and garlemald is the first time since FF13 and FFX that the Obviously Evil Stooge Empire has been given any real exposition, let alone dwelled on what became of them after their stooge fall and fade into irrelevancy or total death
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kino
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>>738804947
MSQ
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>>738805127
The defectors and provincial leaders would have been most of who we dealt with in a Garlean expansion.
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>>738805127
We need more Cid, we need more Nero, and we need more Gaius.
Maxima and Lucia are also fine.
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>>738780943
The replies to this post prove how many trannies post on /v/ kek
>hurr durr youre a liar because i said so
Except the story in this post actually happens on discord frequently and youre trying to do damage control.
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>>738805310
rough unprotected sex with your hrothgar
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>>738805250
>what did you think of the shiva trial cutscene?
>>738797846
>>738798168

basically
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>>738804947
Nothing yet.
Trying to scrape together the will to do the second part of the Alliance Raid and then do the third one, since I'd only done the First Walk.
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>>738805362
It's crazy how Cid and Nero went from being two of the most important long running characters in the story to being written out of the plot completely.
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>>738805127
garlemald is boring because the ascians are boring and fujokawa reduced the entire setting to some boys love ancient shit
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whats the most annoying fight or dungeon I can keep spamming over and over to force other people to do it
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I found World tree
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>>738805472
sandoria should have a decently quick queue since people still need coins from it
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>>738805546
the kraken from hullbreaker isle
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>>738805546
you mean baiting mentor roulettes? ramuh extreme
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>>738805546
ramuh extreme. mentors fucking hate getting it and having to either explain mechanics or leave and eat the penalty
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>>738805634
You sick fuck
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>>738805565
I'm just pondering whether to watch a video to see the mechanics, or if I should just go in blind and eat shit.
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>>738805692
go in and eat shit. and you won't eat shit since only one of the four bosses has hands
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>>738805546
Ramuh extreme has pretty good clear rates unless you pick tank and troll on purpose.
Sephirot is way worse, and if you can make Hades or SoS pop then it's impossible.
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>>738780943
>things that didn't happen
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>>738805862
Sephirot is extremely straightforward how do people have problems with that fight? Wouldn't Sophia throw more people off the edge?
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Okay, I'm sick of this cunt
When do we get rid of Wukkie?
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>>738780943
I've never even heard of this happening.
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>>738805973
7.4.
What patch are you on right now?
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>>738805973
January
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>>738806026
7.3
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>>738805973
7.4.

though she's barely present in 7.2 and most of 7.3
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>>738804878
That's a compelling theory, although I'm not sure how that could work entirely with the absence of a concentration of water and fire aether, those are the two elements missing from what's available.
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>>738805973
6.7
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>>738806058
Then she fucks off at the start of 7.4.
But even in 7.3 her presence is fairly minor compared to 7.0.
And you basically steal her thunder at the end like she did to you at the end of 7.0.
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>>738805960
The mechanics on extreme are not all that intuitive, first phase you have to stack next to the green orb to bait the boss in order to do the spread, and then everything goes to shit in p2, what counts as physical damage, what counts as magical damage, do I go to the same color or opposite?, towers are pretty quick after mechanics, and knockbacks always take people by surprise, then you have to make sure to focus an add at the back of the arena which a lot of people miss...
Another good one to troll mentor roulette is Nidhogg ex with the different nails and the spreads and orbs during the final phase.
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>>738805546
ramuh extreme for baiting mentors

queue for tower and paradigm's breach to troll alliance roulette

for leveling, do bardam's mettle or dzmael darkhold

for trial roulette, i personally hate getting emanation (lakshmi) or great hunt
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Kind of excited to see Evercold MSQ scenes just based on the quality of the presentation (animation, angles, lighting, amount of voices vs not voiced, etc.) shown in the Dawntrail patches.
Hopefully they can keep that up, but I feel like there might be a bit of a dip, because expansions are just far more story and thus cutscene dense than patches.
I'd rather have a shorter MSQ where more is substantial than another one that is drawn out with a shit ton of basic camera angle unvoiced cutscenes, though.
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>>738806716
dzmael darkhold got nerfed bro. holminster switch and tower of zot can still kill shitters though.
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>>738806926
dzmael is boring is the rub anon
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>>738801750
Evercold has been creating quite a lot of buzz recently in case you didn't notice.
Marketing hype machine is in full circle.
Not that surprising considering how lackluster the story of Dawntrail was. DT being so mediocre actually pushes Evercold extremely hard cause people are now starved for XIV being good again.
If DT would have been decent the hype for EC would be smaller.
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>watch 7.3 cutscene in Japanese since I normally play English
>really dislike Calyx (and Sphene's) Japanese voice
>but really like Wuk's Japanese voice
Fug
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>>738805973
femhroth sexo
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>>738807135
JP trailer kinda low
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>>738807381
I think the JP trailer always gravitates between like 500-600k, but I'm not sure. Maybe I'm wrong.
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MSQ ANDIES LEAVE

AN EXPANSION IS MORE THAN ITS MSQ

MSQ ANDIES LEAVE
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>>738807154
https://www.xivmodarchive.com/modid/116315

https://www.xivmodarchive.com/modid/146241

There you go. Theres mods specifically that replace only her voice to Japanese.
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>>738807421
It is, but a good MSQ is always nice.
You see what a bad MSQ does to the game. And it's not even the overall MSQ, but mainly just the base MSQ that soured the game for everyone.
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>>738807381
Only like 10 people live in Japan anon. The German one is strangely padded though.
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>>738807421
what is an "andy"?
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>>738807381
JP are still extremely pissed about the graphics update. I went to FFO during fanfest and it was still almost entirely negative
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>>738807521
Twitch talk
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>>738807435
I appreciate it, but having one character speak Japanese is just jarring to me.
In an ideal world, they could just find another VA to redo all of Wuk's lines in DT, like G'raha's VA redid the 7.4 lines.
But they can't, because it'd cause a social media uproar.
And I know a better (actual female) voice for Wuk Lamat wouldn't undo shit like rubber bullets, dumbass birds who don't even know their own culture, Wuk stealing the spotlight 24/7, but it would at least make me grimace a bit less whenever she's on screen (which is a lot).
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>>738807381
The russian trailer barely has 40k views that's crazy
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>>738807381
The actual answer is that this entirely depends on third party sites linking those trailers.
JP has a lot of players but the youtube numbers are low cause youtube is just one of many video sites that japanese users use.
German meanwhile is big botted cause there have been quite a few articles about XIV recently so sites link the Evercold trailer or even put it on autoplay causing numbers to skyrocket.
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>>738807698
Sis thats French
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>>738807381
it's not too out of place
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>>738807871
Thanks, that makes sense
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>>738807871
why do they pander to JP players and sensibilities when the west is the majority of the playerbase?
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>>738807921
I can only surmise the Japanese primarily watch teaser trailers somewhere else.
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>>738807921
Japanese developers & Japanese company, not matter how much more it sells outside of Japan
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>>738807921
people play this game because its made by the Japanese anon
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>>738798534
please stay on louisoix and never transfer to Light datacenter. I was so fucking tired reading "salut" every fucking time I get into a dungeon or a trial I even paid money just to avoid the French players.
>they speak in french to me even though they KNOW I don't understand a single word
>every French player has to fucking tell everyone he's French. What is this mental illness? Nigga you can be from Romania I dont give a fuck, nobody does, just do your job
>Every time you see a retard doing some dumb shit it's most likely a French player
Sorry I just can't take it anymore
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>they called him louis sucks
what did louis do wrong
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>>738804947
I'll create a 3d model of your character, print it and put it in my ass
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>>738808127
based
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>>738808216
nice
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>>738808127
Thats just frenchies in every single multiplayer game.

>exclusively speak french
>refuse to communicate with non french players
>generally dogshit at whatever they are trying to do
>will votekick you for not being french if given the options

Russians are better mutliplayer teammates than frenchies, You won't understand shit there either but atleast russians are not stupid and annoying.
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My neighbor is gone
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>>738808497
I'll be your neighbor, what ward?
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>>738808596
Malboro
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>>738808497
EVERYONE IS QUITTING
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>>738801750
There are a lot of Germans who play FF14, they're having the European fanfest in Germany.
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>>738808714
Dawntrail is the final expansion, EoS announcement in July



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