I don't understand why it's so hyped, why people are giving it so much praise, and why people are defending it so much. This thing just seems like another overpriced controller that has shit slapped onto it to make it cost more than a standard controller just to make it seem better than it is. I mean Christ every time people talk about it they bring up shit nobody besides dudes that read the sales brochure give a fuck about. Bringing up some shit about how much power the sticks give out or whatever and how it has gyro as if people actually give a shit about it or grip sense.
steamies are depressed losers who are looking for any reason to spend their goybux because that's the only thing that brings them happiness
>>738785992>>738786417why are deranged discord trannies utterly obsessed with Valve?
>>738785992>>738786417Samefag harder Timmy
>>738786474>>738786493Tell me why the steam controller is actually good without sounding like you read the sales catalogue for it
>>738786639Because it's an actual controller made for PC and I don't need to buy snoy/xcuck garbage or chinese shit that tells me my soul now belongs to the Republic of China in the licence.
>>738786693>made for PCIt's made for Steam
>>738785992well for starters it doesn't have plastic sticks
>>738786693>chinese shit that tells me my soul now belongs to the Republic of China in the licencePost an instance where this happened
>>738785992It's ok consoletoddler, not everything is for you
>>738785992>why it's so hyped, why people are giving it so much praiseThere's no "hype" or "praise", it's all shills. You think an evil megacorporation doesn't have a marketing department?
>>738786639It is steam deck parity inputs as a controller. For specifics, I like the trackpads. I tried using the ds4 trackpad when using shit like ds4windows, but the positioning hurts its usability unlike the deck's/controller's positioning. Ah, but I'm not that anon so ya might not care
>>738785992because mouse controls on a controller is actually new
>>738786863No you're fine, you're basically the only honest person here genuinely.
>>738786913no it isn't
>>738786930ps4 and 5 have it but in a lame way
>>738785992It's a cult.People (read dumb consumerist cattle, and I put emphasis on dumb) have been brainwashed to think Valve is the best company ever. They see Gaben as the messiah. They buy games and expensive hardware from them, similar to how Middle Age European peasants gave money to the church to show their allegiance.The same way Mecca gathers millions of fidels every year, circling around the Kabba... you will now have valvetards circling around their Steam Machine and praising it by parroting technical sales points made by their engineers.There's no point in discussing with them, as every good faith conversation ends up with "Valve good, everyone else bad... Valve good, everyone else bad... Valve good, everyone else bad".
>>738785992Four back buttons, comfortable to hold for long sessions, nice not having to reach over to grab the mouse when opening and closing mednafen, good to have a controller that isn't Japanese or made by jeetsoft.
>>738787076t. switch 2 owner
>>738786705Which is a PC service, yes.>>738786743I own Vader gamepads and they have 2 walls of text on install about how Tencent and China own my ass
>>738785992Original steam controller was pretty good, but it lacked the second analog and d-pad, making it unusable for many games. This one fixes everything and so for me I expect it to be the perfect controller.What I enjoyed in the original controller was its customizability:>touchpads make it usable as a mouse replacement>typing text on touchpads is nice too>you can bind pretty much anything including gyros to any gamepad/keyboard/mouse input and macros>the input system automatically swaps between presets for general computer control and in game control>extra buttons at back for push to talk or whatever else>can have different presets configured for any game>can have multiple presets in single game that you can swap with keybinds>can make it so when you press some button it changes behavior of other inputsThis last one was especially neat. For example I made it so when I pull bow in breath of the wind the touchpad stops acting as analog stick emulation and behaves as touchpad for extra precision. That was really cool, but I imagine it won't be as useful if you have separate touchpads and sticks, but still might come in handy.Maybe there are other controllers that can do all of that but I never heard of them and I imagine they won't just magically do all of that without some janky 3rd party tools.
>>738785992>looks very similar to the Deck controls, which I really like>analog sticks with good tech that will last and won't drift, great news for all consumers, as a main brand is pushing pro-consumer quality>that ... button on the bottom middle, extremely useful for me when I use it with Steam interface (on my Deck, and I plan to either buy a Steam Machine or build a PC with SteamOS, for the living room)>trackpad is very useful for navigating stuff without having to plug in m+k if I'm using it on desktop mode, or if I plug my main PC through HDMI to the living room>dual trackpad typing works great, too>gyro+trackpads give me more options for some niche emulation cases (like the 3DS)>back buttons, which should be standard in every controller ever>can customize the fuck out of the controller inputs any way I want>low latency with the wireless puck, and I intend to buy 4 total for when I have friends over to play co-op games>I bought a projector to use on my ceiling over my bed, and this controller will work perfectly with the Deck plugged to the projector
Holy fuck 2 weeks later /v/ still seething about this controller. Nigger buy a different one if it bothers you so much. No I must keep track of everyone who wants one to shame them into buying my favorite controller instead. What are you, 13?
>>738786824>>738787076>more mentally ill console nigger babbleDon't talk about things you don't understand. Such as PC gaming and why Valve got to have it's "monopoly".
>>738787421Snoys and xcucks are mindbroken by the fact that PC gamers now have a dedicated PC gamepad instead of buying Xbox gamepads and their copies.
>>738785992why do people like you make thread after thread asking "WHY DO PEOPLE LIKE THIS CONTROLLER WAAH" again and again?
>>738787508Me when I’m imagining a conflict that’s only in my head
>>738787452Learn the difference between "it's" and "its" before calling anyone out. Maybe you should have invested more money in education instead of giving it to Valve for their expensive junk.
>>738787076>wanna know more about a gamepad?>well, first we need to establish an elaborate metaphor where its users are members of certain mix of popular religions or people from hundreds of years ago in order to save myself from the need to provide any substantial argumentation to the narrative I want to sell to you
>>738785992It looks unergonomic to me from having to accommodate the two big touchpads.
>>738785992Steaminput user of 10 years (Steam Controller 1, Deck, and even using the steaminput rebindings on normal controllers) here, allow me to weight in.>If you just want to play console games, you can make the controls better by virtue of the fact that EVERYTHING is rebindable. If you want to do your camera on trackpad, you can set up a trackpad click input to handle a game function like roll or jump, while putting other ABXY inputs on the back of the controller. The result? You can operate the entire game without ever taking your thumbs off of the camera or movement sticks/pads depending on the game which once you do it once you realize is the objectively best way to play any video game when possible.>It can also handle any PC game, which for stuff like FTL, Torchlight, Tower Defense, Roller Coaster Tycoon, CRPGs, etc is a suuuuper relaxing way to play the games. It can be a little trickier for high speed/high precision games like RTS or MMO, but I have made control schemes that work for both, it's just a big knowledge check to get set up right and a lot of experimenting >Some old PC games have like half but not quite full controller support and the controller helps to bundle the functionality between PC and controller into one input device>If a game supports dual input (PC and controller inputs simultaneously) you can basically create the definitive control scheme for the game, marrying analog movement and mouse controls (no speed caps or other analog stick limitations) for the best of both worlds>Tons of niche use cases, emulation is a big one, DS/3DS/WiiU touchscreens and simulating trackballs for trackball-based arcade games off the top of my head
>>738787894only had it for two days but I find that it slides into my hands really well. Probably depends a lot on the individual user
>>738786639I plan on using mine to play Civ while on the couch. Hiwever one of the main reasons I bought it is because Im going to be replacing my nvidia shield with a Linux PC because Im sick of Android enshittification and the double track pads are great for typing and navigating a desktop.Its also a nice bonus that my Steam Deck and PC can share the same steam controller profiles now.
>>738787682Because curiosity is a natural human trait. If your ancestors weren't curious, they would have never reached that mountain over there. If your ancestors weren't curious, they would have never learned to swim or sail the seas to discover new land and build new civilizations and technology to travel galaxies some day.Curiosity is what compels the thinking mind to go "wait a minute... are you saying there are REALLY people dumb enough to spend THAT much on a product THIS unappealing??". We want to satiate our curiosity and investigate such matters. We want to understand the behavior of steamies. We want to crack open their brains and see what's inside. What goes through their heads when they commit such irrational actions as buying the Steam Controller (and soon the Machine and Frame)? Same way you go to a park, throw a piece of bread and watch how the birds/ducks behave. You're just trying to make sense of what is happening in all that chaos orchestrated by beasts of lower intellect not too disimilar to steamies.Until we get a clear answer, this fascinating discussion is gonna keep going. It's not everyday you see a company lure customers into buying the most expensive (not limited edition) controller of all time. Of course we want to understand... WHY?
>>738787137Maybe don't buy controllers that require software? Or, just don't install the software if it isn't needed. My 8bitdo controllers work fine out of the box and everything can be done without software.
>>738785992See the little Valve logo in the middle? That's the only reason people are blowing loads
>>738789128you didn't need to write a novel to misdirect the obvious implicationit's a good controller and people trust valve. That's all there is to it. Don't need to make a dozen new threads with the same question.
>>738789128>Thirdie trying to wax poetic about human ingenuity because he can't afford a device that exemplifies human ingenuity It's genuinely preposterous that topics of discussion on the Internet can be upended by people living in a Favela
>>738789282>>738789724>There's no point in discussing with them, as every good faith conversation ends up with "Valve good, everyone else bad... Valve good, everyone else bad... Valve good, everyone else bad".Like clockwork.
>>738786639I can play PC games on the couch and not at the desk I wage at, simple as.
>>738785992Steamies are a mentally ill cult.That's all there is to it.
>good faith conversation
>>738785992It's alright.
>>738786693That's right. You better be supporting the country that imports gigabajillions of indians instead. Pay up for your steam-only piece of plastic now.
Because there doesn't exist a single vidya fanbase with more of a cultist following than VaIve
>>738790876Praise King Gaben.He brought gaming to Linux.His next crusade will be, that all x86 software will run on smartphone architecture and vice versa.Please protect our lands from the evil which is Tencent.May PC gaming flourish and prosper and be free for now and the future, yet to come.And may all the video game companies which do not follow in the generous footsteps of Gaben, sink to the bottom, because they treat their customers unwell and with great disrespect.Amen.
>>738790798A regular controller can't do that? And don't tell me you play Grand Strategy or RTS games on your couch. I've tried and it was shitty.>>738791637Yeah, took you like 20 tries to make that video or you either did it slowly and then sped it up to make it look like a walk in the park. I am so. utterly. impressed.
>>738792247They got shat on for paid mods and no one defended Artifact.Valve just has few misses
>>738789128>Because curiosity is a natural human trait. If your ancestors weren't curious, they would have never reached that mountain over there. If your ancestors weren't curious, they would have never learned to swim or sail the seas to discover new land and build new civilizations and technology to travel galaxies some day. >>Curiosity is what compels the thinking mind to go "wait a minute... are you saying there are REALLY people dumb enough to spend THAT much on a product THIS unappealing??". We want to satiate our curiosity and investigate such matters. >>We want to understand the behavior of steamies. We want to crack open their brains and see what's inside. What goes through their heads when they commit such irrational actions as buying the Steam Controller (and soon the Machine and Frame)? >>Same way you go to a park, throw a piece of bread and watch how the birds/ducks behave. You're just trying to make sense of what is happening in all that chaos orchestrated by beasts of lower intellect not too disimilar to steamies. >>Until we get a clear answer, this fascinating discussion is gonna keep going. It's not everyday you see a company lure customers into buying the most expensive (not limited edition) controller of all time. Of course we want to understand... WHY?
>>738792474Yeah the inventor of the battlepass, the ones that brought lootboxes to the west, the company that made DRM the norm, works with Sweet Baby Inc, hires pro BLM devs, donates money to Democrats and are woke as fuck has few misses.
>>738785992It has trackpads. That's really it. No other controller has them.
>>738785992Trackpads are genuinely better than joysticks.
>>738792573Yep.
>>738792573Oh shit this nigga still running on the 2020 NPC drivers
>>738793016>worships Valve>call others NPC>posts an actual NPC meme of gabenHilarious
>>738793016Did anything change since then?
What's in the box /v/?
I liked the back paddles on the original controller, but they were part of the shitty battery cover. New one has 4 of them and they feel nice to press instead of dubious.
brb I have to break the hymen before I can see what's inside.
Could it really be it? I was supposed to arrive in 3-5 business days.
WTF is this, where is it Gabe?
Rich man with gold sinks in his private jet>this thing is overpricedConsoomer cattle on /v/>wasting $100 means I'm rich and everyone else is poor
Just kidding.
>>738785992I can play literally any game on it and map whatever the fuck I want to the controls, without going through chink software.>But steam only.I don't need it anywhere else.>Also being mad about people buying a controllerGet a job
>>738793094>malding
I hope everyone else who bought theirs gets it soon. Going to install a new game to play, it's gabing time.
>>738786417fpbp, there is nothing about this controller that Dualsense doesn't do already for half the price, but steamsois are obsessed with brand instead of real parameters
>>738786474>>738793998Why are you defending a corporation that hates gaming. See how stupid you sound anon.
>>738793998>I'm here to save videogames>kills physical games on pc and spreads the lootbox cancer
>>738794121There is absolutely nothing wrong with steamos having immutable system partition. It's meant for casual gamers, not linux tinkerers. You average steam deck user is not going to enjoy fixing xorg configs and constantly checking arch wiki for required manual interventions.You can easily install Arch there and benefit from all the Arch stuff if you know what are you doing.Why are you grasping at straws?
>>738785992There's only a handful of controllers with trackpads, and among them it's the only one that has them in a usable layout.>But I don't personally want trackpads on a controllerOk, but how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
>>738794317Then follow LTT advice and stop lying about things. Linux is not the future of gaming, only when you assholes stop fighting and actually fix common issues it’s when you can talk.
>>738794562>Then follow LTTWho?
>>738794317Tongue must be sore after so much bootlicking
>you fags before release Omg it's gonna floooop >after it's a success Uhm why...? Im so reasonable but I don't understand GET A LIFE
>>738795072Buy an ad
>>738795072All Hardware releases go like thisIt's thirdworlders and pajeets
>>738794121>>738794247>seething
>>738795195You just replied to a pajeetIt's all your people they've been like this since TOR stop blaming me
>>738785992>i don't understand>*gives uncontrollably seething brownoid opinion instead of being genuinely curious*every single time
>>738795349Are you actually Indian?Why do you come here? It's the most hostile place for Indians on the internet
>>738794247I have discs for PC games and steam games that were both bought in the early 2010sGuess which one still works on my system?PC games had nice boxes but they actual use of physical media on PC never really worked as well as on console
>>738792632>>738792737>>738794381>b-b-but they HAVE TRACKPADS hurrYou're literally repeating Valve's marketing points without any thought. Can you explain to us EXACTLY why you need those trackpads and what you've achieved with them so far to justify that never-seen-before record price for a controller? What game? What feature? What was once unachievable that is now a breeze with the oh-almighty Steam controller?The truth is you're no different than those Facebook moms who justify buying expensive Pink Himalayan Salt just because... just because... well just because it's PINK HIMALAYAN SALT bro. The same way you use "it has trackpads" they use "it's pink himalayan salt" to justify overspending on expensive junk made in Ghuanzhou.
>>738795564It's the continuous return to the sales brochure imagery for me
>>738789134All controllers require software. You could make a generic xinput controller, but that'd be dogshit (and xinput is still software). Any controller with more than the bare minimum features is gonna require custom software.
>>738795691>>738788004The one post in the thread you e ignored has explanations for all of this. You're just a malding thirdie
>>738795691>made in Ghuanzhou.Carol Stream Illinois*
>>738795691The trackpads are needed to use Windows with a controller at all. Forget any utilization in games, if you don't have them then Windows is unusuable and you need KB+Mouse not a controller.
My controller is finally coming in today it's time to finally start finishing up all of my action games and rpgs
>>738785992People give it praise, except the ones that are playing it in the moment on streams, who say that its fucking dogshit
>>738795586I was here before you existed retard Reddit is worse because it's easier to astroturf and spam
>>738796005If it helps you I'm not that racist against Indians it's just fun to shitpost about them
>>738796137I don't care what retards think m8 i work with rich white and Chinese people no one's racist to us irl
>>738796378not to your face. it's called tact
>>738796758They're racist to black people's faces tho, that's how I know nothings changed in the last 20 years
>>738795805>marrying analog movement and mouse controls >for the best of both worlds If you can't spot marketing jargon from a mile away, I don't know what to tell you. That user (probably you) either wrote it himself because he's paid by Valve to do so, OR... he asked ChatGPT to write some text for the Steam Controller in a "selling/marketing" style for that same reason or just to troll by obviously appearing like a Valve shill for talking like a sales representative straight from Mad Men.In either case, it goes right in the trash bin.
>>738792469I think he's very new to the controller, I type way faster than him on my Deck.
>>738797229>Took 27 minutes to come up with "S-Shill!"*Breathes in*Brown
It's funny how brownoids keep asking why people like something and then proceed to seethe at every single response except for the posts that actually answer their question, while also claiming you can't have honest discussion.It's like they never intended to have an actual discussion and just want to seethe lmao.
>>7387859921. Because it's a NEW product, people will hype it up because they're sheep. They get exited from feeling like they're part of something "big"2. It's actually got decent features. I personally have been waiting for years for a new one, as I want one to be able to play my 4Xs, point 'n clicks and CRPGs with. 3. It's not even overpriced (here in EU, at least); shipping is included, and there's no additional tax on it. I honestly think it's cheap, for how many features it's got. I was expecting it to cost about as much as Sony's and Microsoft's premium controllers.
I want it because it's potentially good for gyro. I say potentially because I doubt the grip sense feature is better than capacitive touch buttons like on the Alpakka or just a Dualsense with capacitive touch mod. I know the sticks are capacitive but the area around the face button should have been as well
Why are some consoleniggers unable to understand that this controller fits a good niche between PC gaming and regular controller. If you do not like the features, just move on and stick to your normal controller? It is not like you play card games or strategies anyway
>>738785992It's a high quality controller for PC men with PC sensibilities. Seethe all you want we are never going back to your baby toy controllers made for your slop machines.
>>738797594>people hype it up because they're sheep >proceeds to hype it up himself with every sales talking point possible (fair price, no taxes, good features, plays 4Xs/PnCs/CRPGs, cheaper than the competition's premium models)Honestly, your sales talk wasn't all that bad. It was powerful and straight to the point. If my IQ wasn't in the three-digit range, I may have very likely been convinced by it.
>>738793094> Reply>WorshipYou NPCs really stuck in binary mode
>>738798284I could be childish and sink to your standards and just reply with an image of "sour grapes", or I can tell you that it's a bit of both. I've indeed been waiting for one for years, so I would buy it day one even if I was the only one being hyped for it. Getting hyped up together with people is, however, fun. It's dumb, because of our monkey brains, but it is indeed fun. Some people will sadly be complete slaves to said sheep behaviour and only follow hype. I'm sure a lot of the people that buy this controller are exactly like that.
>>738798140Because we already went through this exact same process with the first Steam Controller. The Steam Controller 2 brings nothing new. It's the exact same story: hype... excitement... "this is the best invention since sliced bread!!"... *few weeks go by*... "hey anon, are you enjoying your Steam Controller?"... "enjoying my what? Steam contr--Oh I remember now, yeah didn't use it much... I think my mom sold it at the garage sale, whatever"... Valve proceeds to sell them for peanuts because they can't even liquidate stock... You can even go on Reddit and see all the archived posts and see e-x-a-c-t-l-y what I just told you. It's all there. So why are you guys falling for it a second time? Our history teacher always taught us to use the past to LEARN and avoid making those same mistakes again. I guess some people never learn.
>>738799348all i wanted was dual touchpads, gyro and flickstick for comfy couch gaming. and it's great
>>738799348Guy, you could make that argument about literally any product in the world that has any sort of hype. You're not making the great point that you think you're making.
someone do a mouse vs gyro comparison in aimlabs or kovaaks, please
>>738799504>Stop sucking Gabe's cock, you're acting like a cultist! Jesus Christ, stop white knighting it!>In a few weeks you will have forgotten all about it!
Piece of shit still hasn't even been shipped yet
>>738785992>I'm a retard who had no idea what he's talking about>instead of trying to figure it out I'll just say it makes no sense while thinking I'm smarter than everybody else Seems like a good strategy. Retard maxing + feeling good about yourself.
>>738799738mine shipped an hour ago :3
>>738800052fuck you
>>738793897>>738793947Had me worried there for a second.
>>738787378This is the truth and it being ignored shows that OP is just trolling.Absolutely no other service/controller has the ability to seamlessly customize things like the steam controllers. It's a massive pita to change binds on any non steam game that doesn't support changing internal bindings and even the few that do don't allow anything remotely in-depth.
>>738785992Native, competently-implemented PC support for motion input, touchpads, and rear buttons. Normally these are hacked-in (if present at all) and unreliable due to shitty drivers and unavoidable xinput limitations. For example back buttons normally can't even be detected as distinct inputs, they can only be remapped ABXY or something. Motion input can normally only be emulated stick input, so it's inaccurate and can't handle fast movement. The touchpads are niche but extremely valuable when needed, and can serve a wide variety of functions.Also high-quality construction with a focus on repairability. Good feel in the hands. Excellent battery life. Among the best features of Steam Deck are its ergonomics and input quality, which Steam Controller is a close match to. Since Steam Deck sold millions of units there's an audience who'd like that same input available for their desktop PC.Many other controllers have had a combination of these things but they've rarely been found together in the same product. Also it's made by Valve, making it the equivalent of a first-party accessory, something that's extremely rare on PC.The thing I think people are most excited for is the hope that, like Steam Deck, it sets a precedent for third-parties.
>>738795691>But I DID have breakfast this morning!heh
>>738800798It isn't even a perfect controller. I think they could have used a nicer plastic for the body and grip sense should have been capacitive with configurable pressure.But, all you have to do is look at what all the other controllers at this price range offer, and the steam controller beats them all. It's a comfortable controller, it has more inputs than you'll need no matter what game you're playing, and has great configuration support - the whole package is just exceptionally well thought out.
It doesn't look ergonomic
>>738795691>Can you explain to us EXACTLY why you need those trackpads and what you've achieved with themI refuse to believe that you're this invested in this subject but have somehow missed the dozens of times this has been explained in previous threads.>never-seen-before record price for a controllerPlenty of controllers that are way more expensive while offering less.
>>738801461Well you're wrong. You probably meant "it looks ugly to me"
>>738793914>midwit normgroid can't see the value of the trackpadsYeah that follows.
>>738794247>physical gamesWhy does that matter? Digital is superior.>spreads the lootbox cancerOnly affects cattle who play onlineslop. Not my problem.
>>738801461It's more comfortable than the DS5.
So what custom controllers are actually good?
>>738801678>"it looks ugly to me"Looks pretty cool, tbf. I'm just wondering if the access to the touchpad requires a very short thumb. >>738801861Maybe one of my friends will get one, I could just try it and make my opinion.
I always found gyro aiming weird, since it was pretty much always active and I naturally made uncontrolled moves.With custom ways to activate gyro with Steam Controller, it's actually very fun to use and it improves my aim, even when gyro is emulating analog stick.
>>738800305>>738800798If I need to google every other word of whatever feature you're selling me, then I don't need your shit. If I'm buying a controller it's to play mindless games on the couch cause I'm too tired to even sit on a chair. I don't want to have to learn Linux or engineering lingo to use a fucking controller. At best, you're turning me off with your technical language.>>738801635I can go to Walmart right now and buy THREE Xbox controllers for that price. If I wanted someone cheaper I could get FOUR Gamesir ones. Didn't check for 8bitDO or whatever it's called, but I guess it's also cheaper. Same with the dozens of Alibaba/Teemu controllers that get the job more than done. They are all made of better plastic too.
>>738801956I've got pretty long fingers and either one isn't an issue because of the trackpad angle, your thumb curves enough that you can reach the whole thing without changing your grip.Using both at once as constant inputs (i.e. movement+camera) is a little weird though, I'd need to change how I grip the controller. Haven't really found anything that I'd want to do that for though.
>>738802718i bought THREE steam controllers because of your post
>>738802718Then you don't need it! Why are you still talking about it?
>>738802718>I can go to Walmart right now and buy THREE Xbox controllers for that price. If I wanted someone cheaper I could get FOUR Gamesir onesYou can also go to a gardening shop and buy a dozen bags of cow manure for that price. Those would even be useful as fertilizer unlike the xslop controllers.Point is, you only need one controller, so why not spend more on one with more features that will last instead of being designed to break?
>>738786705It works fine on PCs running modern full power GNU/Linux based operating systems.If you insist on running a last-generation proprietary operating system whose functionality is restricted to only what the vendor allows, then you have to accept the fact that there is only so much that Valve can do to drag that OS into the modern era.
>>738792247Nintendo
>>738802718>If I need to google every other word of whatever feature you're selling me, then I don't need your shit.So you want to know why people like it and why the hype, but cant/aren't willing to try to understand the main reasons for itClearly people like it for the "technical language" stuff. You are simply not the customer. That's fine, nothing wrong with that. But you aren't likely to ever figure out why people like it at this rate. Just keep using the controllers you do like and ignore this one.
>>738802718>If I need to google every other word of whatever feature you're selling me, then I am ESLFTFY
>>738803789If I want to do sophisticated technical shit on my computer, I'm just gonna... *drum roll*... use my mouse and keyboard?A controller implies limited functionality in exchange of convenience. I'm not using a controller to program applications for Silicon Valley startups. I'm not using a controller to compete with CERN and elucidate the origins of life. I'm not using a controller to try to split atoms in my living room.I use it to play on the couch, when I want to go far away from the daily technicalities my desktop entices (and covers all my needs faithfully for decades now).In the same vein, when I go to a "fast-food" restaurant it is implied I want quick food. So don't come up to me with a knife and tell me to go behind the restaurant to butcher the animal myself, make patties, and cook it myself in your kitchen. If I'm shopping for fast-food I want quick, efficient, ready-to-go meals.Controller and "technically convoluted piece of hardware requiring constant tinkering" are two polar opposites. You're either in the market for one OR the other. Which is what makes me question steambrained consoomers' purchasing choices. I can't really put my finger on their mystifying money-spending motivations. Might be an early symptom of Hantavirus for all I know.
Pcfags want to experience the same excitement as console fags when new hardware drops. Unfortunately with pc there is no new hardware and therefore they get “hyped” over an overpriced controller as they desperately try to mimic the hype of a new console launch. Incredibly sad but hilarious.
>>738805829>I think controllers shouldn't be able to do stuff so a controller that does stuff is bad I didn't read much of your post, but this is I feel like you're saying and that's dumb. Enter.
My thoughts:>The dpad is pretty good>The pads are awesome>Build quality feel alright, better than sony, worse than nintendo>It's bigger than an xbox controller, I have small hands and the inner sticks are uncomfortable to use.I will keep using my 8bitdo
>>738806262>with pc there is no new hardwareThe fuck do you think PCs are made out of? The fuck do you think consoles are made out of, if not locked down PC parts?
>>738805829>>738806601I read it and yeah that's pretty much the gist of it.
>>738806262The people who defend PS5 the most praise it for fast loading times, compatibility with prev gen consoles and good framerates in older games in particular. As they say it, they like it for quality of life improvements.Which is something PC had for at least past 15 years, when 1080p 60 fps became the golden standard for any game on PC and SSD was introduced.I went from DS2, DS3, DS4 to DualSense and there was hardly any change. DS3 had shit triggers and barely anything used sixaxis. DS4 was essentially DS3 with good triggers and touchpad that essentially was giant select button in practice. Unironically the best thing that came out of it was heavily ridiculed Share button, since it just did screenshots and became crucial for viral marketing. For DualSense, adaptive grips don't excite me at all, otherwise it's the same as DS4, but heavier.Gyro aim wasn't even popularized until Switch games made use of it, only after that PS4 started getting some gyro aim.Steam Controller right now actually feels like the ultimate controller, which even makes couch PC usage possible without dedicated keyboard possible.
>>738805829>I use it to play on the couch, when I want to go far away from the daily technicalities my desktop enticesThat just reinforced my opinion that you aren't the target customer base.The controller works fine as a normal controller, but to get the most out of it you need to be willing to customise things and bind the other buttons.There are even varying levels to it.Personally I usually just bind the back buttons to the stick clicks and a face button or two.Sometimes I go full in on setting up action sets that temporarily change what the other buttons do when a specific button is held down.>Controller and "technically convoluted piece of hardware requiring constant tinkering" are two polar opposites. You're either in the market for one OR the other.You get both out of it and the level of tinkering is purely up to the user.That is the biggest appeal (to me). It's a solid controller that works out of the box and has an OPTIONAL level of customisation that no other controller has.If you just want a basic controller I would recommend Xbox/PS. But if you want to customize things then the higher price point isn't an issue.
>>738806601>>738806769>didn't read much of your post>is I feel like you're saying Of course you didn't read it, cause you're a samefagging ESL retard.
What would Steam Mouse and Steam Keyboard be like?
>>738786417fpbp
>>738787378Woah anon, in breath of the wild??????But other people told me it werks only on steam games?
>>738807610Valve logo and $500 pricetag to go with it. Cheap, porrous plastic too.
>>738807862You can just add yuzu or whatever emulator to steam as a non-steam game.I would do that and then stream the game via steam link to my living room TV and enjoy a console like experience but with PC powering it.
>>738808059Do you have the physical Steam Link or the app?
>>738795691the trackpads are for mouse controlled games you absolute brown retardseethe
>>738808059>You can just add yuzu or whatever emulator to steam as a non-steam game.You also need cemu hook for gyro.
>>738808308Physical.
>>738808386Maybe. I never used gyros desu.
>>738785992>I don't understand why it's so hyped, why people are giving it so much praise, and why people are defending it so muchI wasn't aware that it was.
>>738785992The only aspect in which Nintendo is still superior to Steam as a platform is input, is because they dictate with an iron fist what happens at the API level. Ergo, input is really flexible and really well done: low latency, can remap anytime, can do button remapping, has standard gyro, etc.Nintendo is a horrible company and we want better games and a non cucked graphics chip. So people want what Miyamoto has but on PC, but the problem is that the Steam Deck needs special drivers for the Xbox controller if you want to use the proprietary receiver, has horrible latency over bluetooth, and is a crapshoot in terms of compatibilty, shit unpairs, needs reordering and flat out doesn't work more often than not. And Valve deletes the driver every time you update, so you have to reinstall it.Valve has done a tremendous job with Steam input and the Steam Controller is the culmination of all of that. We are hopeful that it will provide an "out of the box" experience that's more integrated and flexible. They ship the drivers with the OS, too, so no more hijinx.
my controller got stolen
huhhh Uncle Gubbsy? We think they used to call him that, because he would get 2 dicks and go,gub gub gub gub gub gub gub gub gub gub gub>>738808684you know who did it, and its a shame they will all have to go but..
why is no one posting gameplay? are you afraid of getting judged?
>>738786639Analog triggers, gyro, and trackpads all at once in a way that works well on PC.
>>738808628>Ergo, input is really flexibleWhat? How? All you can do is map buttons to other buttons. Compare that to the total freedom of Steam Input and you really think Nintendo wins on flexibility?
>>738785992I need a controller for gaymen and i like supporting consumer friendly american companies and i want a controller that doesnt get stickdrift like my shitty XBOX CONTROLLER FUCK YOU MICROSOFT but they're all chinese.
>>738795691>You're literally repeating Valve's marketing points without any thoughtI LIKE the trackpads
>>738785992The people buying the steam controller want two things:1) High build quality2) The trackpad/gyro for shootersThat's all.
>>738809282Switch 2 OS can handle multiple mouse inputs/gyro which is something no computer operating system has.Even if I got 4 steam controllers I could not set everyone up with gyro in a local multiplayer situation because everyones gyro would affect one mouse.The end user can do more on a game per game customization basis with Steam Input, but Nintendo can make any input they want to make a reality for themselves
the only real criticism I have is that the back buttons are weirdly placed/shaped. If I squeeze my hand too hard I press them. The steam deck ones are perfectly shaped and flatter so I dont know why they didnt just go with that one
>>738809282In the Switch OS you can pull out a joycon on the fly and flip it on its side and it will just work everywhere in the OS and in (most) every game. Steam doesn't have this: a lot of its games are not even designed for controllers to begin with, so what can you do to make those games playable from the couch?
>>738809476>Switch 2 OS can handle multiple mouse inputs/gyro which is something no computer operating system has. True, but that's not really flexible when the user has no control over it.>>738809693>you can pull out a joycon on the fly and flip it on its side and it will just work everywhere in the OS and in (most) every gameIt will only work in supported games. The user has no way to configure it to work how he wants in any game.>Steam doesn't have this: a lot of its games are not even designed for controllers to begin with, so what can you do to make those games playable from the couch?Make the controller emulate a keyboard and mouse. Can't do that on Nintendo.
>>738785992>packaged>for 9 days>not a single mail, nothing
>>738809291Consumer friendly? W-h-a-t?!They make the headlines every other week because they're dragged in court for sponsoring child gambling. They've created the microtransaction cancer that plagues the industry. Just the other day I launched CS2... Guess what's on the front page? An ad for some music packs to buy in their shit store. Back in the 1.6/Source days anyone could mod their servers with skins, maps, music, sound effects (m-m-monster kill). All of this is now forbidden, because they want to charge you for it. They released a shit 6-hour VR game for like $60 bucks and advised people to buy their $1000 VR set. They released the first Deck with loud fans and then re-released a better one soon after to make people spend a second time. They forced users to buy a Windows 10/11 license because they weren't supporting Windows 8.1 anymore (despite the fact your games were guaranteed to work on it when you bought them). Forced DRM and telemetry. "Do you want to do the Steam hardware survey?", no fuck off retard. Overpriced Steam Controller 2, Machine, and Frame. Such high price is not justified for chinese-made products of dubious quality. I could go on and on. But if you think Valve is a pro-consumer company, then I think you have bigger fish to fry my friend.
>>738809693Joycons don't even have analog triggers though, so we cant really pretend Switch/SwitchOS is some robust fully featured input system
i need to get used to the back buttons, i can feel them too much and its playing on my mind.
>>738785992I tried the old Steam controller on Pragmata today and it was absolute dogshit. The pad should be amazing for shooters but it never just works.
>>738786705Found the EGS shill
the community templates usually suck, there needs to be a /v/-powered collection of templates that just werk
>tfw items are not even with a carrier yet>ordered confirmed 1 minute after releaseis this a bongland issue?
>>738786639i've used a steam deck for 2 years and love it. the steam controller is a steam deck as a standalone controller. i use it to play DS and 3DS games. It fits my hand great. What other reasons do you want?
>>738802718>If I wanted someone cheaper I could get FOUR Gamesir ones.Ok, then you should do that. I'll have fun with all of my mumbo-jumbo features that require use of my PhD to understand like mapping a trackpad to an extra button grid :)
>>738785992how does steam controller compare to gamesir g7 pro?
Is it normal for GLS to not give any fucking info about the package or has my stuff just not moved at all in 3 days?
Does anyone know if this uses self-tapping screws like the 'eck or not? I want to open mine for fun but not if it would damage it.
>>738811906I had that too. Left the netherlands on the 7th and arrived in my country morning of the 11th, was handed to a local company that evening, then was delivered on the 12th. Radio silence between the 7th and 11th.
I prefer the formfactor of steam controller 1, but I'm happy Valve is finally in a position where people "get it"
>>738787076the seething valvetrannies replying to this is all the proof needed lmao
>>738785992How about you ask yourself why you care so much to the point where you would post a thread like this?What's your angle, OP?
>>738812229is it that fun to spend your time like this?what are you doing with your life?
>>738811871I won't. I'll wait for the first summer garage sale and grab a couple used Steam Controllers for $5 (tax free, also) when the cattle realizes how useless they are. Might even scoop some Steam Machines or Frames if Gaben releases them soon enough.As Lao Tseu once said: patience is the key to victory.
i wish their design made it easier to swap the positioning of the left stick and D-pad. i really prefer offset
>>738812510I'm sure you'll find them among the pile of $2 steam decks at that garage sale!
>>738812510nigga gonna be putting gamer cum right against his ocular nerves, lmao
>>738809446You forgot a huge one3) Insanly repairable with a very easy to replace battery.
>>738785992https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw5Luf_7F8cthis is why
>>738813472Why would Decks be priced cheaper than Controllers at that same place? The person would most certainly tell the Deck is a more expensive item and price it accordingly (~$20). On top of that, why would I even need a Deck if I can just use the Steam link app + controller on my tablet and stream games from my Desktop?>>738814532I have multiple wireless Xbox 360 controllers I use on PC to this day. Do you know how many times I had to "replace the battery hurr"?ZERO.It's like saying "my child suffers from heart problems, but it's not that big of a deal because his rib cage is easily openable for heart surgery and he can be patched right up!!". Yeah... how about your child DOESN'T have any heart problems in the first place if you wanna brag about him?
>>738809080Actual OP at work rn, genuinely why would I want gyro when it just blows and having had an original steam controller the track pass feel like a gimmick but at least here I have another joystick.
Can anybody give me a QRD on setting up advanced trackpad functions? Been playing Diablo 2 and I wanted to get the left trackpad working as a pseudo second dpad where pressing along the sides macros to the arrow keys so I can adjust the automap.
>>738785992It's all PC vegans have. If not for Valve hardware there is literally nothing to be excited for on PC.
>>738785992steam is apple of gaming
>>738785992having the eck its been pretty goodbut i dont think this shit is worth 100 buckowskies, if it was anywhere in the 50-60 dollaroo range i prolly would've boughteded it
>>738815372i'm getting one for my tv, remote controls just don't fucking work for the """""smart"""""" tv paradigm, and i'm hoping trackpads will do a better job
>>738815450are you getting it to connect it directly to the TV?
>>738815524i'll probably have to do something fucky, but it's just an android tablet, i'll find a way
>>738785992Because controllers have been improving in quality, but rely on innovation to stay competitive. Nintendo discovered this with the Wii. It's why they put so much focus into how you interact with their games. The current Xbox style controller is incredibly limited, and we need to grow beyond that. We can't just keep making more and more esoteric button combinations, time slow downs, and pop-up wheels. Did you know, for instance, Borderlands 3 on console doesn't have enough buttons to map every function? We need better controllers than the ones we had 20 years ago, and Valve are making it happen.
>>738815236Set trackpads as button pad Assign keys to each direction uncheck "requires click" Adjust deadzone when in game to your preference
>>738786417fpbp, steam is peak but everything else they make is pure goyslop, gamesir hall effect chads stay winning. If I wanted mouse controls I'd use my fucking mouse, not some grafted on touchpad abomination
>>738795691>Can you explain to us EXACTLY why you need those trackpads and what you've achieved with them I set the trackpads to a 10 button radial menu and set them based on whatever game I'm playing to quickly access weapons, items, etc. >so far to justify that never-seen-before record price for a controller?Xbox elite controller is 199.Now everyone take note as the Timmy shill doesn't respond to my post because I actually factually addressed his point. Maybe you're starting to nooootice something...
>>738815009You don't need to want to use it. The question is why other people are excited about it. The answer is that it is a feature that other people are able to use well to improve how much precision they have in games.
>>738802718Good, stay away poo skin.
>>738816278Nice radial menu there. The problem is such game is NOT made to be played on a couch. I could barely see the icons and text of that pic even when zooming in and using a glass magnifier. So don't even try to tell me you would play that game on a big TV in your living room.Also, I won't bother with the Elite Controller price comments, because it's an argument made in bad faith. There are sons of wealthy Saudi princes who use custom gold-plated controllers. Are we gonna start saying "the Steam Controller is sooo cheap compared to the Saudi heir's gold-plated controller that costs $50 000!!".Yeah... no.
>>738817258>Also, I won't bother with the Elite Controller price comments, because it's an argument made in bad faith. There are sons of wealthy Saudi princes who use custom gold-plated controllers. Are we gonna start saying "the Steam Controller is sooo cheap compared to the Saudi heir's gold-plated controller that costs $50 000!!".>Whines argument is in bad faith>Proceeds to make an enormous bad faith argumentWhat did he mean by this?
>>738817258>Also, I won't bother with the Elite Controller price comments, because it's an argument made in bad faith. There are sons of wealthy Saudi princes who use custom gold-plated controllers. Are we gonna start saying "the Steam Controller is sooo cheap compared to the Saudi heir's gold-plated controller that costs $50 000!!".So what record did the steam controller break with its price?
>>738817334>So what record did the steam controller break with its price?It didn't. People are just whining it costs more than an Xbox Series/Dual Sense controller.
>>738817258>Nice radial menu there. The problem is such game is NOT made to be played on a couch. I could barely see the icons and text of that pic even when zooming in and using a glass magnifier. So don't even try to tell me you would play that game on a big TV in your living roomI pulled that image from Google. As you can see from the post I didn't specify any specific game so you can just imagine whatever game that you'd play on the TV you want.
>>738815898Thank you
How's the haptic feedback/rumble on these things?
>>738815785making it happen... by locking it to their store.exe... might as well just be a $100 brick if you want to use it for your console and you're forced to be a good goy and add every single game to steam to make it work without third party drivers.
>>738817512Oh I see. So you use images of games being played on a handheld to justify the greatness of the controller being played... on a big screen from afar. Makes perfect sense. I should have known better and read the file name right away instead of wasting precious calories arguing (if we can even call it that) with a terminally-steamed patient who's on a crusade to defend Valve at all costs.
>>738817882>might as well just be a $100 brick if you want to use it for your consoleMy what now?>forced to add every single game to steamMaybe you are for being a brown animal on draconian abandonware, works on my modern standards machine.
>>738818156>So you use images of games being played on a handheld to justify the greatness of the controller being played... on a big screen from afarNo I just used it to show a radial menu.
heh heh... uhh... just got in the line... how many months am i gonna have to wait? EU
>>738815364>steam is apple of gamingNot really. With apple everything is just more expensive and closed off than with the competition. With steam software is usually much cheaper and everything is more open than with the competition.
>>738815008>I have multiple wireless Xbox 360 controllers I use on PC to this day. Do you know how many times I had to "replace the battery hurr"? >Yeah... how about your child DOESN'T have any heart problems in the first place if you wanna brag about him?I didn't say it would be needed anytime soon and Ive never had to replace a controllers battery since we started closing them up inside of controllers. The point was if its ever needed that it wound be extremely easy, while most others are not. Repairablity is very important, even if you never need to make repairs. Now, stop making up arguments that were never presented in the first place so that you can feel like you're smart and "won".
>>738818156>if we can even call it thatYou haven't actually made an argument, so it would be best not to call it one. You asked what people use the features for and anon explained what he uses the features for. Trying to push the discussion into some random unrelated tangent doesn't change anything in your favor.
Why do consolefags get so uppity over the Steam Controller? It's not for you.
So after a day or so with it, I like it. It's comfy, I'm getting used to the layout, the buttons feel good, the haptics are nice, the trackpads and gyro are a fucking godsend, and Steam Input is actually really cool with what you can do with it. All my random games and shit I've added to Steam, which I already did anyway, work just fine. Can't really say anything negative about the thing. Happy to own it.The one issue I ran into is the Steam Link app hasn't been updated yet to support it. You can connect it to your device via bluetooth but Steam Link just recognizes it as the old Steam Controller, when you go to launch a game it bugs out because the profile is different for the new controller.
so, can you use steam input without adding the exe as a non-steam game yet?
>>738819590Yes, you need to run SISR though.
>>738818661He disingenuously posted a google image showing a DECK game with a radial menu. The problem here is that complex games that require a 10-button radial menu are NOT the type of games people play on their couch using a controller. Such games are played either on a handheld (like the Deck in his example) or on good ol' desktop.He made shit up. He got caught. Just another day Valva Land.
>>738785992how do I uhhh whats the grip sense and how do I turn it on in shit and what am I doing? I just found out I need to switch it to bluetooth mode to turn the ick eck on from sleep mode.
>>738820341>The problem here is that complex games that require a 10-button radial menu are NOT the type of games people play on their couch using a controller. Well now they are.
>>738818672The same reason so many posters seem hung up on restrictions that only apply to obsolete platforms from vendors who could easily fix the problem of their OS lacking modern gaming input support, but won't add even a copilot vibe coded solution to their last-gen abandonware platform because there isn't money for anything beyond a weak astroturfing campaign.SteamOS GNU/Linux and the Steam Controller threaten to do to Microsoft's gaming market share, what Linux distributions for low-spec ARM systems already did to Microsoft's mobile market share.
>>738785992Because Steam/Valve fanboys are the nuggies of PC gaming, Imagine a nintendo logo on the controller and it will sale just as much no matter how garbage it is
Why can seemingly no one make a half decent dpad anymore? Every single controller made in the past three console generation has a dogshit dpad.
>>738820763No they're not, or else they would have been since the first Steam Controller back in 2015.
>>738821095I've been looking for a Vita bootleg for years, so far I only found some chinkhelds with them. It's terrible.
Why do you need a controller on PC? Your mouse and keyboard are right there.
>>738821156Maybe if it had double joysticks and a dpad it would have, but that was an even harder sell back then.
>>738821220Because I'm on PC. I can choose what's better for my needs and don't need to rationalize the default to my own detriment, that's consolenigger behavior.
>>738820341You asked how people use the feature and he said how he used the feature. Unless you have proof that he is lying, claiming he doesn't play those games is not an argument. That is just you denying reality.>on good ol' desktop.Where controllers also conveniently work.
i've been using mine for mewgenics while chilling on muh couch. the trackpads are so cash. I'll try some Xcom 2 next.
>button prompts icon go apeshit between gamepad and keyboard inputsSo this is the power of the legendary SDL...
>>738821220Difficult to comfortably use kb+m on the couch.
>>738821220what are you so afraid of
>>738796005>knowing what happens on Plebbithow many dicks do you suck on a daily basis?
Anyone actually learn to use the trackpads for games? What do you play with them? Did you give up and go back to using sticks?
>>738821935they're for menuing
>>738785992The ultimate hybrid input controller. Steam Input was already a revolution in that regard letting you cross-map shit but this is next level thanks to contextual mapping, layer mapping and gesture mapping. I picked up a fighter yesterday, went in and mapped all the combos for each character to right trackpad. Now I just draw a quick letter or symbol to rip off a perfect combo instantly. In Forza horizon I have gyro on one axis mapped to release of my left thumb from the left joystick (it had capacitive sensing) so I can emulate a racewheel with acceleration on right trigger, break on left trigger, shift up/down on the top back buttons and ebrake on the bottom back buttons. In ARPGs I get the best of both worlds. I was able to map WASD movement to the left stick, have enough buttons for my spells/abilities, use the left touchpad for random shit like map/recall/pots, and the right stick is mapped to a mouse emulation mode that allows me to push into the direction of the enemy to highlight and fire so I can play the game like a twin-stick shooter with my controller rather than at autolock shit by default controller input. It is only as good as you are creative. If you just want to play, get something else. If you want something that can do everything and circumvent restrictive input/mapping options from inferior developers while leaning back in your computer chair with your feet up on a footrest get a steam controller.Simple as.
>>738817512big picture mode has a magnifier keybind, I use that shit all the time when im playing civ5 on my TV
>>738785992same, symmetrical stick layout controllers are literal e-waste
i want one but the lack of a dedicated screenshot button sucks. i don't want to rebind one of the back buttons to screenshot when the xbox controller already does it in the perfect location.
>>738821220I play vidya while running on a treadmill. KB+M is shit for that
>>738821935Yes.Trackball style camera control.Menus in games not really designed for gamepads.The only games they're not really useful for are retro games that don't use analog sticks.I have never been able to play faster paced FPS games limited to aiming with analog sticks.
>>738822314You don't need to rebind. Screenshot shortcut is the steam button + RB.
>>738786417Fippy bippy
>>738822415Have you tried it for any action type games?
>>738786474nah this is bringing the shills from consoles over to cry about losing money on their $200 controllers.
>>738821387He made a claim, the burden of proof is on him. Another anon earlier posted a video showing his experience browsing here: >>738791637Takes a few seconds, you prove your claim, you show other anons how the controller works so you can help them in their purchasing decision. Everyone wins.Who DOESN'T win in such a situation is the dishonest person lying on the internet. The dishonest person who wants to paint a false picture. The dishonest person who posts Deck gameplay pictures to make a claim about the Controller... when all it would take is a simple picture to back up your claims. You know... if you're really (hint: we know you're not) using those features and that 10-button radial menu, then it's all set and ready for a quick pic. So where is it?
Whats the company that makes those clear after market shells?
>>738821220>I'm retardedYeah, you are.
>>738821220im convinced people just say this for easy engagement bait and nobody actually sincerely asks this question with how much this is being posted
>>738818480>With apple everything is just more expensive and closed off than with the competitiondamn it really is the apple of gaming
>>738822916Normally I would think someone asking for proof of something that should be easy to understand is just baiting me to waste my time, but you actually did take the time to write out a good bit, so I will entertain you. Here is my layout for Beyond Citadel. Right trackpad is for weapon loading (swipe down pulls magazine out swipe up puts new one in), left track pad is currently items, and left stick is radial menu for weapons. Left grip activates and deactivate gyro. However, I'm planning to change it since I don't like the weapon wheel on the stick. You can see at the top that I already have an action layer for weapon select where it will change to swiping on the track pad and I'm playing around with the different option for what input would be best to activate it. I'll probably end up using the right grip as the activator for it, but it is currently just set to one of the back buttons.
>>738821387>where controllers also conveniently workIf I play complex games on Desktop, I will use KB+M. If I play simple games on Desktop I will use KB+M or ANY cheap controller.There is no use for the Steam Controller, because I won't use a controller over KB+M when playing complex games on Desktop. And I won't play complex games on a TV because it's just a huge pain in the ass, 10-button radial menu or not. I don't wanna be like unc' above who has to constantly use the magnifier zoom button for Civ5.Even if the Steam Controller allows for complex inputs, no one is gonna use them for the reasons mentioned above.
>>738823952You cultist also don’t have a reason why a dumb controller with touchpad is worth $100. Just buy a regular controller or Chinese controller. Nothing is special about it, the touchpad is worthless feature that no game offers. Locked into the Steam Ecosystem.You became the Apple version of gaming.
>>738787062ps4 and ps5 have worse mouse support than literally the ps1
>>738824169telling lies on the internet
PCmutts have been eternally butthurt that they had to buy hand-me-down controllers from consoleGAWDS so any cheap piece of Steamcuck branded chink shit is gonna get gigashilled to Hell and back.
>>738824248i mean, if you guys made decent controllers we wouldn't be in this situation
>We still plan to ship within the 6-10 days period>it was 3-5 >and it was received not shippedman the steam support is full of shit lmao
>>738785992it makes le heckin quirky reddit sound when you drop it ;^)
>>738824017>Waste 0.5 seconds moving hand into position and hope you don’t get shotThat’s the stupidest controller map i ever seen. Not even using it for game menu, hoping you won’t accidentally press directional buttons during game.Stop trying to justify your mistakes.
>>738824169sticking to a regular dumb controller that doesnt do anything special saying to yourself you dont need anything else it is the literal definition of an apple fanboy tho
>>738824017Ok, fair enough.
So I bought a steam controller and a Chinese controller at half the price. I will use both. Seethe
>>738821495Not SDL's fault the dev didn't allow for mixed inputs
>>738824228>Locked into Steam Client>Paid for common item>Can’t play exclusivity games without Steam Client>In a community with other people who defend their productsYou are just like Apple toddlers!
>>738824146You won't and that is fine. However, I will. It is important to keep in mind that people have different preferences and priorities if you want to understand why other people would want something rather than just trying to validate your own opinion. There is no reason that controllers should be artificially held back just because keyboard and mouse exist. If you like the benefits of using a keyboard and mouse, it doesn't make any sense to argue against having those benefits in a different form factor. Cheaper controllers will also still always exist if you just want something for the basics. In the event that something like the Steam controller became standard, developers could even make games better by not having to design around making them playable on an Xbox controller which would benefit mouse and keyboard players too.>>738824425Its no different than moving your hand to hit the number keys on a keyboard. If anything, its easier to hit the track pad than it is to hit the 0 key. Keep in mind with the layer select instead of the stick wheel I can still control movement and aiming while doing it so there is no down time. I would usually always default to using pads for weapons including on my DS5 which is almost as good as the steam controller., but this game needs a lot more input so I was messing around with my best options.
>>738824169>the touchpad is worthless feature that no game offersGames don't have to, the trackpads work just like a trackball mouse.>Locked into the Steam Ecosystem.Works fine on modern operating systems. Stop clinging to an abandoned platform from a company that would rather sell AI services than build a better OS.Can't blame them really. Even if they built a better OS you wouldn't buy it.>You became the Apple version of gaming.The OG Apple yes.Apple became the thing Woz hated. Metal and the drivers for it are as closed as D3D drivers.Vulkan, RadV, Proton, and everything that makes SteamOS work are Open Source.SteamOS is the open platform Woz wanted.
>>738824442>Apple has more features on their $599 phone than Android $100 phonesWhat are you talking about, you don’t get tab to pay on cheap phones, you don’t have years of security updates on Android and many other related stuff. Valve will stop supporting the controller, they always stop supporting devices. VR, Steam Machine 1, original controller, Steam Deck. They all have stopped getting support.
>>738824675telling lies on the internet
>>738818480nigga, you just paid $100 for a controller that shouldn't be more than $70
>>738785992>He hasn't used Steam Input APIWe know, you could've saved a few hundred words and just said that.
>>738794098>Dualsense>$74>4 hour battery life>quite literally built to have stick drift and force you to purchase another controller, using analog stick technology that is 20 years outdatedAre you a nigger?
>>738824836SteamOS is not open source you dumb fucks. Open source mean i can theme it to have MY WALLPAPERS, MY SHORTCUTS, MY AUTO START UP ON BOOT. Stop lying!
>>738824952yessss apple is allll you neeed and you dont neeed anything eeelse. not customization, not sideloading, not anything. a tab on cheap phones and security updates is enough, amirite?
>>738794247>>738794121>>738793914>>738793094>>738786417UH oh brown stinky console fags are not happy!
>>738785992If they made it cheaper it would be a lawsuit, steam would take over the entirety of gaming if it could.
>>738786639Why would anyone do such a thing? You too much of a disengenous faggot that any explanation will come off as shilling anyway so what's the point? Might as well just kill yourself.
>>738825105there was a jeet last night bragging about how he bought 2 dualsense controllers to have one always charging
>>738825267Address their crimes anon
>>738786417Anyone ever think it's hilarious that humanity's go-to insult is often "these people are suffering" "they're suffering? ewww" "yeah imagine suffering, fuck those people"
>>738822496but thats 2 buttons instead of 1
>>738825642Ok?
>>738825192what's stopping you
silence, console players
>>738825192SteamOS is literally an Arch based GNU/Linux distribution. You can theme game mode pretty extensively, or you can have it boot into a more theme-able KDE desktop. "Immutable" only applies to the system root partition. All the user customization in GNU/Linux based OSes happens in the user's home directory.You can also switch out of the immutable mode and use it like any other Arch based distribution if you want.
how's the D-pad
>>738826559I didn't have any trouble doing motions in Street Fighter 6 on it but I don't play pad on fighting games so I don't know how it compares.
>>738826559its ok but total ass for precise inputs you would need for fightan games or Castlevania: SOTN.
>>738826559Huge improvement over the Deck but I know that's not saying much.
It's really funny how the gamesaar spammer has had to go from daily shill spam threads to daily seething anti-steam threads.
>>738793998LMAO>>738801849>Only affects cattle who play onlineslop. Not my problem.bitch fuck you!!! Multiplayer gaming is important actually and having shitty multiplayer games has ruined gaming
>>738828315pandering to multiplayer is what ruined gaming. the golden era of vidya is when they primarily developed single-player games
>>738785992>I don't understand why it's so hypedThe reason is really simple. It's in your face, really.
>>738828363no what fucking ruined it was the internet and inflation. Nothing stopping multiplayer games today to actually be normal and fun and not goybuck extraction shit
>>738828595online singleplayer games are great. multiplayer sucks in all forms. normalfags should all die
>>738828640>online singleplayer games are greatlmao the fuck? what an oxymoronAlso no, Multiplayer used to be amazing and I have great memories with multiplayer games. Multiplayer games were just, >Singleplayer>Multiplayer>Unlock shit while playing
>>738828801there are tons of online singleplayer gamesyou're just at retard who sucks his friends cocks and calls it a game
>>738811231>They released a shit 6-hour VR game for like $60 bucks and advised people to buy their $1000 VR set.Its still the best accessible VR headset out there.>They released the first Deck with loud fans and then re-released a better one soon after to make people spend a second time.They released a software patch that fixed this...>They forced users to buy a Windows 10/11 license because they weren't supporting Windows 8.1 anymoreYou can blame this one on Google.And if you are willing to go without the standalone frontend you can use all your steam games on win7 just fine.>Forced DRMUp to the developers/publishers if they want to ensble it or not. Many games work fine if you remove the steam files.> and telemetry. "Do you want to do the Steam hardware survey?", no fuck off retard.Unlike almost everyone else they ask about once a year and when you say no they don't keep bugging you.>Overpriced Steam Controller 2, Machine, and Frame. Such high price is not justified for chinese-made products of dubious quality. 100bux for a controller with the customization and ergonomics of the steam deck controller is a fair price.We don't have any info on the price for the other hardware.They may not be golden. But they are hella better than every other company in this industry.
>>738825858Valve who encrypted the files and put fail saves to stop any changes to sever sided UI.
>>738829068that isn't true btw
>>738826234You can ONLY theme the PC side of the so called “open source” “distributed operating system”. Not the client that’s exclusively closed to the community. What you claim “open source” is nothing but a hack job to boot into the Steam Client under Linux platform.Stop the lies.
>>738829224you mean the part that isn't an OS? lol
>>738829092Then fix the problem with Steam Client filters, you can’t because you’re not able to access it.
>>738785992People are tired of Sony and Microsoft, PlayStation and Xbox, and Snoys and Xcucks. People are ready to move on and Valve and Nintendo fulfill that need.
>>738829345there is no problem
>>738829268>SteamOS>Only thing open source is arch>Client is locked downWhy do you idiots assume a bootable software build by Valve Corporation is open source and not Arch
>>738829385Yes there is: https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/za494e/why_does_steam_filter_out_results_even_tho_there/
I honestly can't think of a single instance where the back paddles were ever useful in years of owning controllers with them, so I don't understand why people are so excited over extra buttons on the back of the controller.I also don't see much reason to want trackpads either. I don't see any use case for them personally.
if you have or tried a Deck, you'll understand
>>738829662That's cool dude.
>>738829662quick-save and quick-load
>>738829662I use them on every single game I play on my SD.Not having to take my finger off of movement/aiming to jump, reload, or whatnot is fantastic.
>>738787076I'm going to redeem this card
>>738787076We merely see it as the best company LEFT.you just lie to ignore that.
>>738829662Nice argument, fag. Enjoy your online subscription, dollar store controllers, and buying the same game again on your new toy.
>>738830641Nice ad hominem.
>>738787378I honestly have just a couple issues with the controller>no gyro passthroughWhile it's nice that you can make pseudo gyro for virtually any game, this almost always ends up being inferior than native gyro. I hope Valve will add it in the future>dpadIt's absolutely usable in 99% of the cases, but there are some edge cases like Tomb Raider Remastered (possibly the originals too?) where going left or right while moving forward ends up stopping Lara's movement altogether, as if you stopped pressing up. It's definitely more mitigated than on the Deck, but it's still there>no adaptive triggersThey feel absolutely awesome if the game implements them right, such a shameThese are the main reason why I'm keeping a Dualsense as a secondary controller, they're both incredible controllers that complement each other
>>738793016
>>738787378agree 100%. I hope Batocera can add native support for it (outside of steam) in an update though.
>>738794098>Dualsense half the price > Half of $100 is $75?>Dualsense has a useless touchpad>Steam controller has touchpads that are comfortable to use and are useful for PC gaming??>Dualsense has 4 hour battery life and stick drift>Steam controller has tmr sticks and 36 hour battery life???How is the dual sense better at "half" the cost?
>>738802718>If I need to google every other word of whatever feature you're selling meBro really just said "well I'm ESL, so checkmate!"
>>738820815Troonix LOST
>>738785992https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb0AOqzjI8Y
>>738831445M$ admitted defeat lmao
>>738825450>third party application kills steam decksyeah? how is that valves fault now? are you retarded?
>hook the little puck up to my pc >connect controller>sit across the room with the controller plugged into the wall permanently so I never have to charge it Will this work? Or does steam have some kind of fucking issue with it not connecting to the puck when the USB c is plugged in, like I expect it to
>>738829662>While it's nice that you can make pseudo gyro for virtually any game, this almost always ends up being inferior than native gyroin what way is it inferior? i use gyro all the time and its almost on par if not better than native gyro just for the fact that you can customize how and when do you want it to activate as well as tweak it in every use case you want.
>>738831610I mean, that'd be a dumb thing to do because the controller's battery lasts a really fucking long time and to my understanding wouldn't have passthrough to prevent charge damage. In that use case.
>>738824675I can use the Steam Controller literally everywhere on Linux. Don't need to have the steam client installed or running. On my Windows partition I just need SISR to use it without Steam or I can add apps to Steam to use it.
>>738825450I have two first batch launch day Steamdecks. A 512GB with matte screen and a 64GB glossy (with a 1TB installed). Both function like new and both have immutability disabled (root access) for loading other applications I want. No issues. Genuinely never seen Arch so rock solid.
>>738832031>it'll destroy the battery Who fucking cares? I want to keep it on the other side of the room
>>738824215You can plug a USB mouse into a PS4/PS5. The list of games it works with is significantly longer than the list of PS1 games with mouse support.
>>738831610I just tried this with my phone charger and it worked fine.
>>738832451>I want to keep it on the other side of the roomWhy would you keep it on the charger all the time? That is dangerous for any electronic. Most have sensers to prevent it constantly charging to max but that isn't enough. You're putting needless wear on the battery by cycling it 24/7. It will die psychotically soon at best and at worst it will explode and burn your home down. As will any portable battery powered electronic. If you're going to keep it plugged in 24/7 disconnect the battery first. You should only need to put it on charge like once every other week for 3 hours. It has a 40 hour runtime with default haptics.
>>738832573Are you able to remove the battery? Cause that would be ideal for me. I just want a connected charger next to my couch
>>738832823Yes of course, there are only 7 normal ass T6 torx screws to remove and then you just unplug the battery. No glue or anything. Comes right out. Takes like 15 seconds.
Post yfw you accidentally drop it
>>738786417fpbp, only steamgoyim would be retarded enough to actually buy a controller with always online DRM
>>738794121>>738794317Reminder steamOS requires you to login to use the fucking system at all, and trying to bypass that fucks you over with ever increasing restrictions (last I checked they don't even let you use game mode if you don't log in).For all the (rightful) bitching people did about when microslop tried to demand a forced online logon, steamgoyim sure are all too happy to own nothing and be happy, given they are defending DRM on their fucking controller as well.
>>738833593I don't have steam deck but I'm pretty sure you can just install Windows or Arch Linux there.
>>738833403https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/05/if-you-drop-or-throw-your-new-steam-controller-it-will-scream-at-you/
>>738803109>proprietary operating system whose functionality is restricted to only what the vendor allows: >:(>proprietary operating system whose functionality is restricted to only what the vendor allows, but valve: :D
>The playstation brand collapses with the PS5.>Valvefags instantly start acting like snoys, just under a new master.The pattern is hard to ignore these days.
>>738825642>>738822314You want a one-button screenshot function, but you don't want it to take up a button? Tough customer.
>>738833403I dropped every controller I have so it'll happen eventually. And by "drop" I mean it fell off my bed on its own.
>>738834036
>>738799602gyro is just a way to manipulate aim assist more intuitively, it's not actual precision aiming
I'm about to buy a Dualsense since Gaben won't sell me his controller. Convince me not to.
gyro is a meme and so are trackpadsenjoy your brick
>>738785992From what i understand i can only use it to play games on steam? I can't fire up my ps2 emulator and use it with it?
>>738834515Okay, I'll keep having fun with my track pads playing command and conquer while you mald endlessly on 4chan. Glhf anon
>>738834520Please answer my question, gamers!
overpriced NPC shit.
>>738785992I want it quite literally just to play Civilization on the couch. That's it. Everything else is just a pleasant add-on.
>>738831601Linux dies easy, Ai is this close to nearly killing it.
>>738832150Arch development team is not SteamOS developers you asshole, know how your computer works.
>>738834520You can open your emulator through steam and set the control scheme same as you would on steam deck, or you can use SISR.
>>738835496So rhat's a no.Thanks. 200 dollars saved, i guess.
>>738835670>Can I use on emulator>Yes>So that's a noInb4 pretending to be retarded
>>738833903SteamOS is Open Source. I know you don't like that fact, but it is true. You can pull in a copy of the repo, remove Valve trademarks and redistribute it.Further, everything Valve contributes to that is actually important for PC Gaming on GNU/Linux based OSes is open source, and able to be used by any other GNU/Linux distribution.If Valve comes up with a killer feature for their distribution, every other GNU/Linux distribution will pick it up.If somebody else comes up with a killer feature for PC Gaming on GNU/Linux, Valve can pick it up and benefit from it, and if they're stubborn they risk being left behind.This is completely unlike the situation with Microsoft's Proprietary OS where the NT kernel, the win32 compatibility layer, DirectX, GPU Drivers, Controller support, etc is all closed source. Nobody else can maintain or distribute it, and as a result it is rotting because it isn't important to Microsoft's bottom line.PC Gaming is unlikely to ever be really important to Microsoft's bottom line again. 'K2' is a dog and pony show so their investors don't get spooked.
>>738835725On the topic of emulator. I recall sometime ago seeing a guy emulating BOTW on his 'eck and using stuff like trackpads for rotating objects and stuff. Will I be able to do that on the gaben controller or was that thanks only to the 'eck emulator?
>>738794247>Kills physical gamesGoodOnly mentally retarded idiots like to fill their shelves with useless plastic trash
>>738835860See >>738835496 it works exactly the same way (so you already know it works)
>>738835860There is no Deck specific emulator. You can do the same thing on Deck as on your PC with the controller.
>>738794247>>738835919Even physical copies don't guarantee ownership today.Only pirates own anything. That's why having a pirated copy is good even if you own the game, because at least that ensures your copy won't be modified (adding drm, censoring, removing stuff) by the publisher just because the technology today allows them to do so
>>738836047This is what physical cucks dont get
>>738835965>>738835969Oh shit, cool. Maybe I'll finally get to playing those games.
>>738836047yeah almost like they want us to only go digital dumbass. This is an orchestrated effort to kill physical media
>>738835919only mentally retarded idiots think all digital should be the future
>>738835816Arch is the open source, not the bootable software you enter when you start the device. The developers of SteamOS are not involved in Arch dev team. The current version of SteamOS is not available for download on their source code repository. The facts you stated are from Reddit comments that are unaware of the version between today and 2 years ago. You can not remove SteamOS on their Arch version. Valve made you sign up to enter a copy of Arch once, they do plan on being a Microsoft product.Stop with your ignorance
>/v/ seethes about the Steam Deck for four years>/v/ will seethe about the Steam Controller for another four years>/v/ will seethe about the Steam Frame for...On and on, etc.
Why does stick cap activate on move? Is there any settings i can do to prevent that i would love to bind them to an action without it fire off on moving sticks. I even put stick caps just to see if i can seperate the activation while i move but it still goes off like my thumb touch the cap directly.
>>738834520Any emulator that uses SDL3 works out of the box without Steam.
>>738836667>The current version of SteamOS is not available for download on their source code repository?https://gitlab.com/users/evlaV/projects
>>738836783What is the stick cap activating? If I remember correctly deflect and touch are two different options in the activation menu.
>>738837156Nothing because any movement activates the touch sensor. Which only really is usable for activating gyro but i would have love to experiment with different actions.
>>738785992I got one and it quickly turned into one of my favorite controllers, god tier. Feels great, latency is great, the trackpads are useful for big picture. Dont regret it at all
>>738836676What the hell is it about Steam Hardware and Switch 2 that makes /v/ go full schizo? I don't even see half this shit happen with the PlayStation or Xbox.
>>738836586it's only a problem for console fags because they're eternally bound to get reamed in their asshole by their company. pc chads can just crack their games and keep it forever.
>>738837382People hate fun
>>738837382Some people hate that they can't buy one in their country. Some hate that they can't afford it. Some hate other people having fun. A few are literally shills/bots that try to shit on anything steam.
>>738837268Can you run me through what you're trying to achieve. I'm having a hard time grasping it. Screenshots could help too.
>>738837513If normalfags hate fun, there's the door.
>>738832528Name two PS5 games.
>>738837784Touch sensor bind on stick caps. You cant set anything on it. Any stick movement autoactivates it even with extended stick caps that adds seperation with your thumb and the capacitive layer.
>>738837382Sourgrape brownoids can't afford it
>>738838085Pretty much sums up all of /v/
>>738837382Forever and always, its seething thirdies.
>>738836783thats weird. works on mine just fine. just pushing the edge of my joystick to move doesnt fire off the touch command
>>738834446you didn't reserve it?
>>738786417>steamiesi honestly thought it was consoletrannies? only consoletards show off their own consumerism like this. the only people i ever heard irl mention "playing on the deck" were ex-xboxfags.the whole point of steam is saving money, why would i then be trying to flex like a nigger
>>738832528>You can plug a USB mouse into a PS4/PS5.you expect me to believe that when you cant even plug USB controllers into a PS5? (unless they are officially licensed by onions)
>>738837382Tendies (and it is almost exclusively tendies who seethe about Steam) don't view Xbox and PlayStation as direct competition in the same way they do the steam deck
>>738838528PS4/PS5 both have basic support for mice, if anything for the web browser. It's up to devs to decide if they want to support that, or go licensed-shit only (which Sony handles on the OS level for them)
>>738786417In opposition to console fans that will gobble up any slop that the platform holder releases and will ask for seconds
>>738786639Steamdeck is good.This is a steamdeck squished together. Personally. I think the steam controller looks retarded but I LIKE the steamdeck. They are the same thing so Idk what to tell you really. If you could get a steamdeck on sale for the controller price, I would do it.I got my sd oled 20% off and don't regret it but wouldn't buy the controller.
>>738808319>steamtards are using a fucking trackpad to play K+B games that is comparable with playing games on notebook without mouse to justify their shitty purchasekek, you're such NPC consoomer cattle it can't be even real
>>738785992You are really stupid
>>738839458Not him but cope bitch, Valve finally made a controller that can play KB&M games. God, I hate poor worlders.
Mine's coming tomorrow. So excited
>>738829662if you used flickstick, you'd know
>>738806643>>It's bigger than an xbox controller, I have small hands and the inner sticks are uncomfortable to use.They're literally the same size
If it had PS5's level of haptic feedback (and can emulate it for games that specifically look for PS5 controllers on PC for it), I'd consider one.
>>738840151get a dd wheel
>>738840181I already have my G27 for racing shit.
>>738815008>I have multiple wireless Xbox 360 controllers I use on PC to this day. Do you know how many times I had to "replace the battery hurr"? >ZERO. Did all of them come with a rechargeable battery mod? Because as far as I remember, the xbox controllers use replaceable batteries. Or do you just use them until the battery runs out and then buy a new one?
>>738823982>damn it really is the apple of gamingWhat other controller that has the same features is cheaper? What's closed about the controller?>>738825045>you just paid $100 for a controller that shouldn't be more than $70I paid $100 for a controller that has more features than ones that cost $200 to $300.
>>738817882>by locking it to their store.exe...They didn't though. It works perfectly fine without Steam on Linux.>might as well just be a $100 brick if you want to use it for your consoleWhy the fuck would I need to use it on a console?>you're forced to be a good goy and add every single game to steam to make it workWrong.
>>738785992I will say, the two thumbsticks and new trackpads are an improvement over the 2015 controller, I could never get the hang of the old trackpad on that shitter.
>>738818374>months
>>738812026Can anyone help?
>>738824675>Locked into Steam ClientWrong.>Paid for common itemThat's typically how it works unless you're a nigger, yes.>Can’t play exclusivity games without Steam ClientWrong.>In a community with other people who defend their products I'm just laughing at seething retards like you.
>>738836667https://github.com/ValveSoftware?????
>>738787137>muh chinese spyat least the vader is cheaper and offers much better customization. i'd rather deal with the Chinese than gabe's lackeys
Why should I buy steam controller if I can buy a dualdense cheaper and configure it through steam.
>>738839506Yes, go play Age of Empires 2 right now with it retard. It's shit for anything outside OS navigation just like sticks are shit for FPS games, but you faggots must suck Newell's cock at all times.
>>738833246Do you know if they're self tapping?
>people replying to "steamie" and "pc vegan" schizoJust stop.
>>738836548>almost like they want us to only go digitalWhy do they want that? How do they benefit?>This is an orchestrated effort to kill physical mediaFor what purpose?
>>738810542>Multiple gyro doesn't matter.Not the anon you're replying too but it's bad news for me. I was planning to introduce my son to Time Crisis/House of the Dead and relying on gyro to coop together since laser guns don't work on nowaday TV and custom ones are super expensive. Apparently it's not happening (yet).
>>738825392>Saaaaar!!!
>>738822103Wait what? You can create a combo like => => B A and map it to a very specific symbol you draw yourself on the trackpad? Is it a pre-set symbol you have to pick up from a list or can you draw virtually anything?
>>738837058Holy schizo
>>738835054Tbh even a plain Xbox controller will be enough for Civ. I've finished full length games that way.The trackpads to make it more convenient I guess.
>>738824952The Steam Deck is actively being updated still as well as Index working just as well as it did in 2016.
>>738794121>>738833593If you dont understand how to install an operating system then stick to prebuilts and laptops. Im sure Best Buy needs someone to pay Geek Squad $200 to install Chrome and the malware that is McAfee.
>>738785992because it offers enough additional features to allow you to play games that would otherwise barely work on a controller anyway.if that doesn't interest you, then there's no reason for you to give a shit about the Steam controller, because all it will be is a more expensive controller with two touch pads you never use.what I don't understand is why it pisses people off so much that there are those who can see the advantage of the additional features and look forward to it.
>tfw delayed till the 19thAhem, fuck GLS
>>738787378the discussion will never end because it's being lead between people like you, who enjoy customization and being able to set everything up according to their own preferences, even if it takes an hour of fiddling around with it, and people who hate having to customize anything and just want plug & play.everything you list as positive is actually negative from their point of view.
>>738786417Consolepleb tears are delicious.
>>738818374Lmao. I got in line a minute before que launchYou got lots of waiting to be done
>>738834223the xbox has a button dedicated to screenshots already. the only available programmable buttons would be one of the back buttons which isn't as convenient as just having one right on the face.
>>738822314What I personally did is that I've set my left trackpad to "single button" action with a touch taking screenshots
>>738785992it lets you use your PC with just the controller. that's pretty cool
>>738849156>it lets you use your steam with just the controller.
gyro to mouse and trackpad with trackball mode is great.
>>738785992It's a controller that requires a smart user to make proper use of it, so of course shitloads of retards will immediately get filtered by the mere concept of it
How do I do basic shit like setting a default profile for all games? It took me a while to figure out how to remap desktop mode, now it's even more annoying because every game just jumps right back into the default dogshit layout.
>>738849627Nope, the entire OS UI.
>>738785992if just seeing the thing wasnt enough to tell you it was retarded, at least the retards who bought it can now give you the nerd data on why its retarded. didnt buy. bought a gamesir instead.
>>738849156I've been seeing that too. I'm getting some very mixed messages from people saying it only works with steam while others are showing themselves controlling their entire os, even windows.
>>738850912a smart user isnt spending 100 euros on a controller
>>738785992someone explain me grip sense use case or settings I just opened it on wednesday
>it commednicealso>add gog client as a non-steam game to steam>customize controller layout for gog games>it werkswow what a nothingburger that whole "issue" was
>>738853874open the pause menu when you don't grip both sides.
>>738853881Try with gamepass
>>738853978who the fuck uses gamepass
>>738853965????????? huh? I was thinking more along the lines of how to turn it on and enable touch gyro camera on the gripping sense or something. This actually sounds like it would be pretty good for a platformer game though
>>738853978that is a microslop issue and it's your fault for buying from them. their games aren't very open.
>>738853749It only works with Steam as in, if you're using Windows then Steam must be installed and running for it to act as its driver. Otherwise the controller defaults to being a mouse so you can still navigate the UI and open Steam.exe from your couch to get the full experience.
>>738854115I made the mistake of buying Morrowind from the gamepass store (because it was the lowest price) and I regretted it immediately. Trying to install any mods? Nope, doesn't work. Try and modify the game files? Nope, all games from gamepass are tightly locked and you risk bricking your pc trying to access change them.Good fucking thing OpenMW recognized the copy and I was able to play that way.Never buying from microslop again. They can suck a dick.
>>738808319Not only that, but you can use them as a pointer for windows instead of the mouse. I can just recline in my chair and not bend over to use the mouse (i can have my wireless keyboard on my lap, but it's harder to use a mouse).I can't wait to try it with my daw and my video editing suites
>>738845371>the discussion will never end because it's being lead between people like you, and people who hate having to customize anything and just want plug & play.What discussion? None of these retards even replied to me. They rather just seethe and reply to people who just made fun of them because it's easier than actually coming up with counterarguments.>>738853749When people say it works only with steam they mean steam input, as opposed to xinput/directinput. What that means is that in normal setup if a game isn't ran from steam it probably won't recognize raw input from the controller. This is not really a problem because:>you can still control your PC as long as you have steam because steam input emulates kb+m when you are outside of game>you can add any game you want as non-steam game in steam and launch it and it works 99% of time>you can install SIRS for the remaining 1%>if you are on Linux everything just werks out of the box because steam controller drivers are in the kernel preinstalled by default and you can use programs like sc-controller to have all the configuration without even using steamIt finally came, bros...
>>738839458>that is comparable with playing games on notebook without mouseno, it's not you fucking idiota touchpad takes up your whole hand, the trackpads let you use every other finger on your hand
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>>738854409Yep it was your mistake. Glad you realized it sooner than latter fren.>At first there was Steam and it was the one and only of its kind so people were glad it existed.>Then came GOG and it wasn't great that we had to switch between two services now, but GOG is DRM free with a clear statement to revive oldies but goodies so people gave it a free pass for being legitimately unique and different.>Then rose all the vultures trying to get a slice of that sweet amd delicious pie without bringing anything new, shitting up the experience for everyone. Fuck those guys. Never ever indulge them.
>>738785992without instant xinput switch whilst allowing the touchpads to control the mouse when steam is off im not buying it
>>738785992VR chad hereThe steam controller is incredibly useful with the 4 extra buttons on the back, it allows me to get out of vr and in, and use some other vr only functions for UEVR, also it's just comfortable to use wirelessly and charge, it's a great controller
>>738855089so you are just retarded and don't know that a setup like that wouldn't work and be useless? like how do you put food in your mouth?
>>738855164>it wouldnt workyou are the one who sounds retarded here batman
>>738855164>a setup like that wouldn't workNTA but it absolutely would work
>>738855313>>738855317what would it work for? without all the customization? just another legacy controller with a mouse that is going to bug out the game because of multiple input sources? great. constantly switching between xinput and a mouse. defeating the whole purpose of a setup like that. can't even use the binds or the gyro. can't use any of the layers. can't change the feedback settings or anything else. just a bloated controller. might as well go back and use an xbox 360 controller with a wireless mouse.
>>738855561>what would it work for?non steam games, emulators pretty much everything, you choose if you want 2 of the back pedals to be left and right mouse button whilst everything else works for games, you also should be able to customise your touchpad use in xinput for emulators outside of steamthe fact they on purpose locked all this shit to steam is fake and gay on their part and against the consumer
>>738855313>>738855317like even the ps5 niggas are using STEAM to make games work with their sub par controllers how they want them but when the STEAM controller does that it's somehow bad and makes it useless.>>738855769omg you are so fucking retarded and don't know what you are talking about.
>>738855846>ps5 niggas are using STEAM to make games work with their sub par controllersyou can use ds4windows instead
>>738855846>NO IT IS YOU WHO DOESNT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT AIEEEEESure
>>738855971>you can use ds4windows instead>>738855976>i want >i want>i want>i wanti want blue to be red and red to be blue. i want xinput to do this and that. i want this to behave that way and work with this applicaiton and standard that way.
>738856046what a shit post
>>738856092you have never tried using a controller as a mouse and keyboard replacement with gyro and trackpads in games that don't support more than one input. all you have is hopes and dreams of how things should work but don't in real life. subhuman turdword nigger.
>>738785992Because I love to see Steam win.
>>738856268most games these days support simultaneous input, and even for the ones that don't having mouse input+xinput combined is still useful if you need to use the mouse cursor outside the game at any point.
>>738853978If you want to use locked-down Micorpeen Jeetpass, you'll have to take your SISRs or use REEEEEEwasd
>>738786639it does the Wilhelm scream if you drop/throw it.
>>738854589>>738854651>receivedcels posting in the same thread as a shippedchad such as myselfDisgusting. There used to be a time when packedchads could dab on shippedcels and receivedcels alike, but they're sadly extinct at the moment. This leaves only shippedchads, receivedcels, and didntboughtjeets in these threads.Kindly refrain from posting where I can see it if you've received your controller or haven't even bought one. Attrocious behavior.
>>738856387cool story bro. how many controllers have that on the market? not everyone has a steam like store front so there have to be some good controllers that have gyro and trackpads with third party software for configuration and emulation of inputs right?
What's the point of that three-dot button and why can't you rebind it?
>>738856668ds4windows exists
>>738856759yeah and it sucks and can't do half the shit you want.
>>738856729opens the steam overlay
>>738854647It's shit in terms of accuracy like every capacitive touch device, can't wait to easily rekt retards like you in TF2 lmao
>>738856729opens quick settings in big picture mode.
>>738856867Doesn't the Steam button do it too?Seems odd to duplicate it. Why not let you just rebind it then?
>>738856867>>738856958So it's useless
>>738857019It's kind of crazy how Valve adds what should be a useful button (I'd love to use it to quick cycle profiles on the desktop), and then gimps it so you're forced to use the start button with a long hold instead.
Is there no longer option to change turn on/off sounds like in old controller?
Also why the fuck does the new controller still have that retarded deadzone in the mouse mode thing that the deck had.If I want to move my mouse using the opposite thumb I should be allowed to damn it.
>>738857335They said they'll add it down the line.>>738857019The quick settings menu is very useful but okay.
>>738857483>The quick settings menu is very usefulOnly on deck
>>738857483>They said they'll add it down the line.Oh ok. I'm so used to portal jingle.It would be cool if they allowed for any custom melody.
>>738795691I put hundreds of hours on Factorio on the Steam Deck because the trackpads allows for mouse like controls on the go. Is that specific enough?
>>738856950No it's not. I daily a laptop for work and its trackpad is nowhere near as good as my Deck's, especially since it doesn't have tactile feedback. t. I play civ without any issues on the Deck
>>738857483>The quick settings menu is very usefulOnly for big picture niggers, and the only people who use that garbage are stupid. For everyone else, it's literally just a wasted button.
>>738857713Also for HTPCs in the living room. If you live alone, I guess it won't be that useful since you're probably playing at a desk, for some reason.
Overall its a great controller, and Valve generally makes gaming less shit with every decision they make; recently that has included hardware like the Deck. The Controller (I do wish they would have given it a different name, as those who are old enough to remember the original Steam Controller typically think of the new, much better one as Steam Controller 2.0 / Steam Deck Controller) is basically taking the Deck's proven control layout and making it stand alone; of course this is beneficial. This doesn't mean its perfect; I frankly would have liked to see a a "Premium" version more akin to the Xbox Elite S2 / DualSense Edge, but considering the default version is closer to that than most others to start, I don't lament them starting with the current version. Which reminds me has anyone heard about a >case, with room for the puck/charging and accessories this time? I do wish Valve could offer an enhanced model earlier on this time around, if it wasn't going to come included.
>>738834835>>738834520You aren't even allowed to play games on Steam with it.
>>738786639It has every feature you could possibly want in a controller. Back buttons, track pads, gyro, fully remappable, wired and wireless. The only thing it lacks is a nice d-pad but every d-pad sucks ass these days
>>738834520Yes, you either run the emulator through Steam, or you run SISR to not have to add the emulator through Steam. I already have all my emulators running through Steam so it's fine for me. I did test it and most of the newer emulators that are frequently updated also worked just out of the without SISR, though you need to disable the desktop functionality in Steam first or you'll activate desktop commands while gaming. So your mileage will vary depending on how your setup. As of now, I haven't encountered anything that's unplayable with my Controller. Only issue I had is that the Steam Link android app only recognizes the Controller as the old 2015 model so it fucks up and can't launch games since it can't properly load a Steam Input config to the Controller, but they just need to update the app for it to work, which they will eventually.
