I like Grim Yawn tho.
>>738790593>AI slop AND cringealso>PoE>endless build possibilitiesis that why there's like 1 or 2 viable builds every season that get cookie-cuttered out
>>738790593>mu dark epochPlaying it for money right now. Thanks torox.
>>738790920>MuWhat the fuck are you talking about
>>738790593>the left click genre
>>738790915>1~2 viable buildsYou are just a retarded meta chaser. There are endless of builds out there that you can pretty much do EVERYTHING in the game if you want to.
>>738790948Clearly they mean the lost continent theorized by Augustus Le Plongeon
meanwhile Grim Dawn mogs all of thoseTitan Quest 2 i dunno has potential but it seems kinda scammy in the same way PoE2 turned out being a scam
>>738790593>not putting hero Siege on there>TI which I don't play is also mega hugeThis image was created by a scorched blizzard exwife.
Sure, just remove PooE and "diablo" 4, replace the pajeet Diablo 2 "remaster" with Project Diablo 2 and put Grim Dawn in the image, maybe then I will agree.
>>738791116>Hero siege>New season begins>Most players spend more time trying to play the game than actually playing it because every season comes out infested with game breaking bugs and exploits and the dev team is composed by 10 turd worldersNah.
I don't care how much you "change" Blizzard, i'm not paying $60 for a game with a fucking paid BATTLEPASS that rubs over prices cosmetics and other MTX's in your face.Die.
>>738790948Stop getting butthurt like that op. It looked like a gacha game picture.
>>738790915>he can't make his own buildsholy brainlet
PD2 is the best way to play diablo, should be mentioned. Can't just play hammerdin/blizz sorc for 30 years right
>>7387910021-2 builds are always 100x better than everything else in poe
Diablo 2 is the only decent one here. What abysmal state the genre is in.
>>738791947poe is not a competition for 99,9% of people.
>>738792520Doesn't matter, if your game is so unbalanced that 1-2 skills are so much better than everything else I shant be playing it
>>738790593>golden age>look inside>2/5ths PoE and 2/5ths Diablo>only good one is Diablo 2even the pretty much comatose RTS genre has more to show for than this
>>738790593Where's nioh2
>>738790593Last Epoch is objective trash. There is nothing good about that game. Being openly and proudly developed by reddit should have been your first red flag. Seeing it be a complete flop shouldn't have surprised anyone.
>>738790593>Skinnerboxes
>>738791227I see I caught one of the mentally ill rmters who keeps buying accounts and crying while. Really weird how much shit one can make up and expect to never get called out.
>>738790593Drop that Last Epoch turd and I'll agree
>>738792714Deep underground, no contact with the outside world. There's always the to leave and do something else but nobody takes it.
>shit of excrement 1 & 2
>>738790593I want to like Last Epoch. It appears to have interesting builds. It is just so boring.
>>738791002Not without buying 20,0000 mirrors from Chris Wilson's bot farms to fund the gear you need to make it work.
>mogs every a-rpg out there
>>738790593>PoEComplete garbage after 3.13, every update since just made the game worse.>PoE2Think of all the bad post-3.13 updates in PoE and amplify them hundred fold, you now have PoE2. poeg calls it poo2 for a reason>D4Lol, lmao even>Last EpochHaven't actually played this one so I don't know>D2With mods its still the best ARPGIts pretty grim for ARPGs right now
>>738791002this is true. I don't follow any guides or meta builds and I'm able to farm simus day 1 or 2.
>>738794028Does it still have time gated things ?
>>738790593People really lose their fucking mind over these games when you can just finish the campaign, maybe try some more classes you like and call it a day. No one's forcing you to grind end game.
>>738794085yes
>>738790593AI slop
>>738792712There ARE more games, but they're clearly B-tier. Or worse.
>>738794031>old good new badever think the genre maybe isn't for you any more if all you can enjoy is a 25 year old game?
>>738790593Why does every sad sack of shit millennial who makes something like this, always use AI for the graphics?
>>738794085They chickened out and lowered them to 5 minutes down from likes 4 hours or whatever they used to be.
>>738792712It's because Blizzard is still somehow the king of polish. Even Diablo 3 which I didn't like felt amazing to play in moment-to-moment gameplay.
>>738791123>le old game GOODwow hot take, faggot
>>738790593is there any ARPG that lets me wasd while using mouse to aim?
>>738790593So which of these is truly the best to get into as a newbie to the genre? I've had a passing interest here and there but never fully got into one of these games. Just on looking at them POE seems the best and most funnest one to me but Diablo is the more popular series with a long legacy behind it and I would assume much more of a player base. I kind of have no interest desu in anything besides these two.Also I'm probably going to get flak for this but I kind of wish there were good console ports of these type of games. Are there any console based ones that are good.
>>738792520I agree with the sentiment but the trade economy kinda means that unless you have 1000+ hours in the game from before you are going to play catch-up and essential items or specific stat-combos on items will just keep being out of reach because of the inflation. >inb4 "just play SSF"Feel like that mode is only fun if you are a neet or complete no-life and can afford to spend days hoping for a lucky drop or craft to work out
>>738790593>AIslop image>Shit games
>>738794828Diablo 4 is the most newbie friendly.
d4 bad
>>738790995dunno about the others but in PoE 1 it is possible to set the movement to W instead of left click, was a lot easier on my hand
>>738794638poe 2https://youtu.be/y8OL9qqnhDo?si=-JZcy3fJIsGUEG9x
I feel stinky even just looking at OP's image.
>>738790593>No GDshitty sloppa list
I don't hate Last Epoch but holy fuck is its engine garbage. I get 3x the frames on poe2
>>738797816>grim yawn
>>738790593>Golden Age of braindead gambling slopSounds about right. This and gacha are heralds of the end times
>>738797816I keep going back to it, finish the first campaign, then get bored because I do NOT want to repeat that slog again TWICE before I get to the point that I can finally finalize a build and get to farming.I also have a hard time understanding devotions since 'pathing' or even just choosing important constellations is hard to figure out as a casual. Sucks that I don't have expansions so I can't rely on build guides.
>>738790593Why the fuck would someone feel the need to make an AI image like this and not even put their own opinions on it? Theres nothing of substance here at all to differentiate them. The images themselves have nothing to do with the games either.
>>738798196>poetroon>>738798575you are supposed to skip Elite unless you have completely fucked up your build and get wrecked on Ultimateconstellations boil down to:>does it increase the damage of my chosen archetype>does it help me survive
>>738790915Because they're made by creators with good track records, the builds are strong and straightforward to get taking and their guides are well written and easy to understand. There are an incredible number of viable and even excellent builds every league. It's just difficult to come up with your own shit. Cookie cutters get played by so many players mostly because of this. It's not because it's the only viable build but because it's an easily accessible one.
>>738790915Endless does not mean "No Meta".You can do what you want, and most builds are great. But, everybody want the best.
>>738798575I do not play for the end game. I play through the campaign and that's pretty much it.
>>738790593Path of Exile has been fully infiltrated by the hardware lobby. Used to be any computer could run it, now you need top of the line hardware and you STILL have to avoid certain types of content.
>>738790915>that why there's like 1 or 2 viable builds every seasonLeaguestarters are not the only builds. Newbaby
>>7387909953 of those have WASD movement
>>738799650the other ones let you map Move to a key
>>738790593Chat gpt can't help itself and use some cringe gptism in the text of image gen
>>738799585Their servers are actually the real issue, it's all server side and if they are taking more than 33ms per tick you will start losing frames.Was very obvious this league with most people doing unstable breaches and 'a configuration issue' (they are cheap kiwi cunts using bottom of the barrel trash) causing servers to actively run in slow motion.
>>738800467lol no
>>738792712>>738794325One of my favorite ones is Din's Curse. I remember setting up Hamachi so my friends and I could play some weird characters on a weekend.
>>738790593PoE is the the only real arpg, all the others are slop, especially Poo2
>>738800694Had a moment after discovering these games where I played for like 3 weeks straight until I realized how shallow they really were.Wish the dude would just hire someone to make art assets for him.
>>738790593Is the combat in POE2 actually "weighty" and tactical, or is that just compared to the genre standard?I generally don't enjoy this genre because combat/actually gameplay always feels so unengaging.
>>738800991It's an objectively worse version of PoE1.
>>738790593POE2 will be fun when it's finished, so will Fangs of Asterkarn
>>738790593and Grim Dawn moggs them all
any of these let me fuck cute elves and retire in some castle as an endgame
>>738801235Grim Dawn is embarrassingly slow-paced which is a shame because it's otherwise very good.
>>738800991It's intended to feel more like a souls clone from a top-down perspective. Not terrible, but the progression is too slow due to large empty areas and partially implemented loot in early access. And it is tactical, a lot of skills aren't strong in themselves, you're expected to combo skills together to exploit status effects that build up like the Sekiro posture bar.
>>738800991No. It's just PoE1 but you move way slower and the enemies deal way more damage. Also dying resets the entire area, including deleting any loot on the ground
>>738801428>>738801518Mite b cool, I'm take a look when it hits free to play. I'm not too concerned about the looting thing. While I like having means of customizing toward a preferred playstyle, I think fun combat should be the reward for playing rather than just seeing numbers go up.
>weighty, tactical combatmaybe at launch. since all the POE1 faggots complained about it being too hard it's now just the same mindless spamslop as POE1 and D4.
