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>>738793053What is Demon's Souls
>>738793081if DSP finished it then it's not hard, rollslops games aren't difficult
>>738793081wrong, you filthy casual
>>738793053San Andreas, because of the train mission.
>>738793053
>>738793053le dark soul xd
Lion King on Sega Megadrive
anything with quartercircle commands, literally input bullying
>>738793237Oh, yeah.
>>738793053>widely regardedWho cares what fat people think.
>>738793053Battle Toads
>>738793053Any gacha because no one will ever complete them
>>738793053What is Battletoads
>>738793352None of the soulslikes belong on that list.
Fallout New Vegas 1.00 on PS3
>>738793237Widely regardedNot “regarded in marginal circles”Widely
>>738793475Isn't SNES harder?
>>738793053Battletoads, for the Wii.
>>738793352>killzone 2Literally the dark souls of first person shooters, playing the campaign on Elite difficulty is absolute torture.
SC:BW. Anyone naming PvE dogshit garbage playing against exploitable AI should be publicly executed.
>>738793352Nice bait but this is closer to a "list of games I played throughout my life and thought were really cool!" list than anything else.
If this were an actual question on jeopardy and it wasn't an answer pandering to modern audiences like "Dark Souls", the correct answer would be Ghosts n' Goblins.
>>738793352Metal Slug? Seriously?
>>738793189>>738793237>>738793562Demon's Souls is hard as fuck and if you think otherwise there is a near 100% chance you are a zoomer shitstain playing it well after release with hundreds of hours experience from later Souls games and preconceived notions about the game.Zoomers go back to DeS after having played all the other Souls games, guide in hand, look up the most OP cheese builds, and expect a kaizo bossrush where you sprint past all the enemies and the bosses are brutally difficult and chain 20 attacks together that you rollspam through, and are disappointed.That's not what the game was at all or ever meant to be. It was always about the level designs themselves, the environments, the atmosphere, and the bosses were meant as more unique and memorable experiences that feel like they actually belong in that environment instead of just another rollspam jankfest against another humanoid boss.It took me less time to go from first time playing Contra to a deathless clear than it did just to beat the first fucking area (1-1) of Demon's Souls.I don't think zoomers realize the reputation Demon's Souls had around launch and for even a good decade later. It was the first of its kind and was much more punishing in terms of soul form and invasions. Souls was always seen as a very niche, very difficult, very hardcore game. This was not some casual's viewpoint, even those who were hardcore and underground universally acknowledged it as an extremely difficult and even obtuse game, viewed as far tougher than even old school Nintendo-hard games.
>>738793053Ghosts 'n Goblins (Arcade) is up there
>>738794030>>738793950I've no death cleared both loops of the arcade version. It's got nothing on Souls games
>>738793053takeshis challenge
Touhou series on Lunatic difficulty, 1cc.
>>738793053There is no answer. Nobody could ever agree. It's like saying "this is widely regarded as the best movie of all time" you'd get a different answer in every room that you asked.
>>738793053Damn it have been long time when I last see this type picture
>>738794025>>738794072Souls is pretty hard, but at least in my experience of going in mostly blind it's not quite as difficult as something like GnG or Final Fight. Especially once you play it enough to pick up on the logic of how the levels are laid out, very similar to NES adventure games like Metroid or Zelda, you can usually find a lot of tools, items, and strategies that make the challenges much more manageable.
The Game of Life
>>738793990Post 1cc
>>738794531Preach brother
>>738793990Poser or credit feeder
Wizardry IV: The Return of Werdna
>widelyDark Souls>truthfullyBeatmania IIDX
>>738794101Almost like it’s a prompt to open up discussion you autistic faggot.
>>738794025>implying souls games aren't zoomer games
>>738794072now try without save states
>>738794939Rhythm games can be enjoyed by casuals tho, implying that a rthythm game is as hard as its highest difficulty levels is like saying that tetris is hardcore because not many people can beat TGM
>>738793189Regarded is about perception, not actual circumstance. Most people do regard Fromslop as the hardest shit in video games and completing them as a badge of gamer honor.
>>738795037Clear means without save states or rewind retard.
>>738793053Jackie Cha- DAMN IT
What’s 4chan’s favorite game show? I never watched many of the not-super-popular ones, but I must admit to loving Wipeout, Jeopardy and BrainSurge.
>>738795339>vidya answerArena>not-vidya answerSupermarket Sweep
>>738793352this is just a bunch of random games thrown together because how are hotline miami 2 and jak 2 on the same level as garrega and TGM?>>738794715>>738794840nta but ms1 is a way easier 1cc than every other metal slug game, dont know why its on this list either
>>738794025I played DeS on release and the "Dude it's so hard!" shit was always overblown by people who only played shitty cinematic console games and 3D Nintendo games. Stuff like the American release of DMC3 and Shinobi on PS2 made DeS look like a joke in terms of difficulty.
>>738795176People always act like "Fromslop" is so easy yet REFUSE to name an actual harder game. Souls is harder than 99.99% of games out there just to beat
>>738793352people post shit like this but can't beat death egg zone in sonic 2 LMAO
>>738793275>not the toy plane mission from Zero
>>738796047DMD (the only remotely hard difficulty) is no harder with SE. Also, DMD is a pushover joke with items (which you can even earn S-ranks with).The only difficult aspect of DMC3 is DMD SS-ranks, which is legitimately very difficult
>>738793352Why is F-zero gx not on this list
>>738796097Have you actually never played a harder game?
Probably a shmup, something like a DOJWL 2-ALL
>>738793505>>738793553>>738793638GOOD ANSWER! GOOD ANSWER!
>>738793352>DMC4
>>738794025I played DeS first on ps3 in around 2010. It isn't hard. You just have to be cautious. It's punishing if you fail, but only 3 bosses are hard: False King Allant, Flamelurker and Maneaters.
>>738796047The hardest thing about it, at the time, was learning its mechanics and nuances because they were so different than what had been done in video games for more than a decade, along with a couple new conventions. It was like re-learning fluency in a language you hadn't spoken in 15 years. Or taking up carpentry again after a 15 year break. It felt just familiar enough to make the stumbles feel challenging. But, it is really forgiving if the player is willing to take a more conscientious approach to exploration and combat.That being said, Demon's Souls is still my favorite of From's souls entries.
>>738796363>>738796047Pure revisionist bullshit and zoomer larp. Even amongst hardcore niche communities, it was regarded as extremely difficult and unforgiving. You have to remember Souls filled a niche in gaming that quite literally did not exist prior to that point
>>738793053What is Nethack?
>>738796097I guess we haven't defined what hard means. Anons seem to think if a game is beatable at all, it's not hard. Or the completion rate must be like only 20 people in the whole world.
>>738794025>>738796481>
Ninja Gaiden Black
>>738793352>THE HARDEST GAME OF ALL TIME>DARK SO---zzzzz
>>738796097There are objectively harder games in this very thread dumbass.
>>738793053Fester's Quest
>>738796404>re-learning fluency in a language you hadn't spoken in 15 years. Or taking up carpentry again after a 15 year break. It felt just familiar enough to make the stumbles feel challenging.Yeah that Demon's Souls-like resurgence of the mid 90s really was an incredible time...Shut the fuck up
>>738793053What is The Adventures of Bayou Billy?
Be honest none of you can beat Megaman X2 without save states
>>738796652Given how many NES games were that, easily beatable games like soulslikes should not be on the list.
>>738797220??? Mega Man games are on the easy end of hard games. mega man x2 is not even the hardest megamna game, the fuck you bring that one up for?
>>738797220Brother as a kid I beat mega man x2 once a day for two weeks straight in anticipation for x3.
>>738796215It's next to Mega Man you blind fuck.
>>738797220Very reasonable as long as you know most item locations
>>738793352>turbi fire is fineLmao this fucking cheater only added that rule because you know his bitch ass uses turbo
>>738793352Games can only be hard by testing consistency, which most of these don't.
>>738796097Half the souls babies would be filtered by the first level of exanima. Fuck man Super Star Wars would make them all kill themselves.
>>738793053Trauma Center: Under The Knife. It's the only game I've been unable to finish due to difficulty
>>738796652This thread is obviously just here for people to reply to hard games and flex how they beat it when they were 12, not to actually discuss merits of difficulty.
>>738797671>Super Star WarsIt's a shit game but only like a tiny fraction as hard as Souls. You FromSoft haters really are totally delusional just because it became popular
>>738793053Wizardry 4: Return of Werdna Complete bullshit
>>738795115IIDX has infamously tight timing windows and bullshit lifebar mechanics even by rhythm game standards. Some tracks also have Normal charts with difficulty level 9, which is already out of reach for the vast majority of mankind.
Who's the dumb nigger itt that is actually claiming souls games are harder than retro games? I love the souls games to death, but they really aren't THAT hard of games. The only shit I would categorize in the "actually hard" tier are Melania and Consort Radahn (no spirit ashes), and even then you can cheese them easily with the right build.
>>738796835this
For >how hard it is to beatThen this list isn't that bad, even if it's not perfect. It's adequate. >>738793352For>how high the skill ceiling is without self imposed challenges like speedrunsThen competitive shooters and fighting gamesFor>how hard it can get with self imposed challengesthen any game I guess
some dogshit IWBTG fangame like Kamilla 3 is probably the answer
>>738798696>widely regardednobody even knows what iwbbq means
>>738798756IWBTG is a normalfag game thoever
>>738793053Mischief Makers; imagine Mega Man Zero but all your attacks require a parry.
>>738794025>It took me less time to go from first time playing Contra to a deathless clear than it did just to beat the first fucking area (1-1) of Demon's Souls.This is bait
>>738793053la mulana
>>738798940Easy if you use a guide.
>>738798654I think there should be a category>How hard a game is to beat in the developer's intended difficulty setting, without cheesing or disabling intended features that make the game easierEssentially the opposite of>you didn't beat the game
>>738796193I recognize this shitpost.>>738796481You're a retarded bandwaggoning secondary who got into the series with PTD bullshit and your opinion is objectively worthless.
>>738799102You don't know the intention of the developer tho.
>>738799316You can infer it if you're not autistic
>>738799316"Normal mode" is often the intended difficulty, hope that helps.
>>738793352I'm playing Gradius III now and I'm literally rewinding 10 times for every 5 seconds of progress, it's fucking ridiculous.
>>738799373Where do you think you are? Do you think autistic is an insult here, the place there ydbtg has become a point of contention?>>738799432Not really.
>>738793594your mother is widely
>>738798108>ignores the other half of my postlol>fromsoft hatersspeaking of delusional. I don't hate fromsoft, but I just don't think it's particularly hard. Fucking battle brothers will punish you harder and more consistently than any souls game.
>>738799316If the collective hi/v/enums would tell you that you didnt beat the game then that’s the actual criteria
>>738800368Fucking phoneposting. Hi/v/emind but now I ruined it
>>738799196I beat DeS in 2009, try again larping zoomer fag>>738798939It's truth, you play Contra for 5 mins and think >omg hardest game everwhile you play Souls for 500-1000+ hours to master it yet try to call it easy lmao
>>738799540SNES version is fine. Arcade version is pure bullshit
>>738798939It's a pasta, retard.
>>738799716>but I just don't think it's particularly hardBecause you are a zoomer fag larping See >>738794025
>>738793053What is I Wanna Be The Guy.
>>738793594Why should we give a fuck what normalfag mainstream masses think?
>>738800797>you're a *insert projection here*Does that normally work for you? Any game that can be no damage beaten speed run by someone using their tongue isn't hard.>but it's the hardest game ever, you just don't get itYou thinking that fromsoft makes the hardest games of all time says way more about you than it does anything else lol
>>73879919695% of the people sucking off DMC3 or acting like it's hardest game ever never even beat DMD, let alone with halfway decent ranks, let alone with SS-ranks.Calling shitters out on their larping bullshit isn't shitposting. People just don't care about DMC like they do about Souls, they just brute force a quick 6-10 hour run, praise it because they feel obligated due to its "classic" status, and then never touch it again.
>>738793352>"YOU HAVE TO DO IT 1CC">"Durrh turbo fire and savestates are ok DURHHH"whoever made this is a fucking retard.I got 17. Finished DS1 last month, waiting until July to start DS2.Remake a list while keeping >Ghosts N Goblins>Ninja Gaiden>Ikaruga 1CC>Contra 1CC>Battletoads>Battle Garegga 1CCLost Levels is not hard.Silver Surfer is kusoge and should not count.Metal Slug is not hard.Souls-Likes are not hard.GOW is not hard
>>738793352how does one beat n++? complete all of the episodes, i'm guessing? and the hidden levels don't count?also, why is donkey kong land on there?
>>738801215>people with 30k hours and a decade of community collaboration knowledge on the best and most optimal cheese strats are able to do a difficult challenge run>therefore the game isn't hardYou are genuinely stupid as a fucking rock lmao. And also this can be said about any of the hardest games as long as they have competent designYou can't even name a single harder game, let alone a harder game that you, yes (You), have cleared personally.
>>738801484>Lost Levels is not hard.1cc sure as hell is. Shit, even the NES version where you can't just continue on each stage would be one of the hardest games on that list.>Silver Surfer is kusoge and should not count.Silver Surfer, even deathless is very easy, but a larper like you wouldn't know this>Metal Slug is not hard.1cc absolutely fucking is>Souls-Likes are not hard.They absolutely are, arguably the hardest games of all time to simply beat, outside of the most niche, underground, broken kuso dogshit imaginable>GOW is not hardOn the hardest difficulty? It's harder than NG and DMC. And NUR is even significantly more difficult>Remake a list while keeping>>Ghosts N GoblinsOne of the easier games on this list just to clear, I've done both loops deathless >>Ninja GaidenThe NES version? Has unlimited continues, is a pushover until the final stage, and only one hard section which is trivial with magic>>Ikaruga 1CCOne of the eaiser shmups. You only say this because it's the most normalfag known of the shmups>>Contra 1CCLiterally one of the easiest clears on that list you retarded poser lmaoConclusion: you are a retarded poser who has no idea what the fuck he is spewing. You call out some of the actual hardest games as not belonging (of course you've never cleared them), while ignoring the actual easiest clears on that list that don't belong lmao
>>738793352I have never played any of those games.
>this many people replying to such obvious bait
>>738793053what is contra?
>>738800614>try again larping zoomer fagNo you didn't, secondary. But I did. DeS was never hard.>>738801410>Calling shitters out on their larping bullshit isn't shitposting.Constantly posting about DMD SS ranks and never proving you've even played the game is absolutely shitposting.
>>738796324that is an incredibly hard game to acheivement hunt i can tell you that.
>>738793352>please PLEASE play my boomer slopNo thanks lol. I know you wasted your childhood on these, but I don't feel like doing the same.
>>738798378Go on, name these hard retro games.The only retro games comparable to Souls are the absolute most brutal ones like Battletoads NES, Gradius 3 AC, Raiden II AC, Same3 AC, and NGB MNM (only with no save state/rewind for practice, otherwise they are still easier)Basic shit like Zelda (including 2), CV (including 3US), Mega Man (including X and Zero), Contra, Ninja Gaiden, Shatterhand, Ducktales, Rescue Rangers, Hagane, Wild Guns, Soul Blazer, etc. aren't even close
>>738794025nah DeS had a lot of gimmick fights where you just do X and Y to win, no skill required. maybe a little trial and error to realize the gimmick but pure unadulterated skill DeS loses out to other Fromslop games. and no I played it blind, I didn't need a guide or a cheese build, I gotta respectfully disagree brudda
>>738802243I've done DMD S-ranks (not SS) in 3 and 4, plus the BP with all characters. And I don't even like nor am I particularly good at DMC lmao (or combo-focused action games in general).As long as items and jarpiggy upgrades exist, DMC will never be hard. And any game is hard if you say>w-w-w-well do max difficulty, max ranks, no upgrades, THEN it's hard, ha!
Isn't pic related the actual hardest game of all time? The only game I've ever gotten filtered by due to difficulty is Nioh 2, but I think if I went back and played it again I'd probably beat it easily.
>>738802470Literally no one back in the day thought this. Even if you did play it totally blind (very unlikely), all the hundreds of hours of experience from later Souls absolutely helps to make the experience significantly easier
>>738802319That's not even the boomer slop image lol
>>738802738doesnt matter, games that came out before 2015 are all old
>>738802660>he doesn't believe meok, end of discussion i guess. keep coping
>>738793053Has anyone on this entire website beaten Carnage Heart for the PS1 during the lifetime of the PS1 without cheats or guides?
>>738793352>GoWlol, lmao>MGRRA full S-rank no damage run on Revengeance is hard, sure. But just beating it even on that difficulty isn't.Generally speaking every old game is harder than every modern game under these conditions because if you think your runback to Lud & Zallen or Logarius is bad imagine replaying the entire game.
>>738803115Name these retro games harder than MGRR and God of War on Hardest
>>738797657>It doesn't count as hard because it lacks this criteria I just pulled out of my ass
>>738803298Wiz4 has been posted like 5 times already.
>>738793053Battletoads
>>738793352I was close to biting until I got further in the list and realized,>Evil Within>Max Payne 3>Dead Space 2>GoW Series>Donkey Kong Land (wtf?)>Any CoD game ever>KZ2These games aren't even remotely hard compared to the rest. And you've got way too many shooters - everybody knows they're hard, that's the only reason people would play them. I'm surprised you left out the Darius and Touhou series.>Lion KingOkay the Mane Event level was hard but everything else was pretty easy. I beat this as a little kid when I rented it from hollywood video.Might I suggest:Sonic 2 (Game Gear)DustforceQuakeSerious SamI wanna be the guy (Despite what many think, it's not just a meme game)
minesweeper hardcore modeits like regular minesweeper but you buy real mines, and if you hit a mine in the game you must activate a mine somewhere in your room, of which half are duds and half are live explosives
>>738793053Ghosts 'n' Goblins.
>>738803298Ninja Gaiden, duh. Again, I can die as many times to getting boxed in by Armstrong's fucking volcano lines and retry as many times as I want until I win. It's not that hard to learn a 2-10 minute fight if you can retry it over and over again. That's the reason those games are harder moment to moment, because you can learn them faster. If I only had 1-10 lives with which I had to beat MGGR on max difficulty (without having done so before in a conventional way) sure, it would be harder than any old game. But that's not what we're talking about, is it?
>>738794938>>738802596>>738798210So then I guess the real question is, "Is there any game that is harder than Wizardry 4?"
>>738793053Unironically the Uncharted trilogy remaster on brutal difficulty should be a contender. It was clearly untested bullshit. You can die randomly during a qte cutscene.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxcYc2ycSvY
>>738802594Yes I've seen your shitposts and your lack of proof of having played the game before.
>>738803364No one ITT has even played it, let alone beat it. Pure poser larper faggotry>>738803613NES games? Hell no, not even closeNG04? NopeNGB on MNM? SureSo one game, and it's a late gen Xbox game lmao
>>738803673>a qte cutscenethat's the entire series anon
>>738802596I got filtered by Nioh 3. I can do Souls game no-death.
>>738802069you need to post some replays
>>738803864I played the demo to completion back when the game launched and had 0 trouble making progress and beating the super demon guy. But this time around I made a point to make sure I got better at stance swapping, which is I think what caused me to get fucked in Nioh 2. Turns out using high stance 100% of the time doesn't work that well after a certain point kek
>>738794025Souls are not that hard. No game with a free i-frame move and rpg mechanics to dance around challenges can be that hard.>muh 6 gorillion hours of experienceI beat them last year. Cope.
>>738803468>these games, that not a single one have I actually beat to the requirements outlined, are easy>proceeds to name even easier gamesYou posers are so fucking funny
I wanna be the Boshy.
>>738804497>these games, that not a single one have I actually beat to the requirements outlinedIt's probably not wise to base your argument on a gamble that I'm just bullshitting and picking games at seemingly random. I point those games out as not being very hard because I have very little memory of struggling trying to finish them, so I was surprised to see them on the list.I'm gonna also take a gamble, and assume you've never beaten Dustforce? I doubt many people on this board have. I would bet money nobody ITT has.
>>738793352is this bait
>>738804095I struggled against him in ninja mode then swapped to samurai and started parrying everything.Since the game has both nin and samurai I think the player is expected to be able to fight well in both styles, and swap between them each time the enemy does a red attack.
>>738803468>>Any CoD game everI heard World at War on veteran is pretty fucking hard, which got me curious. Also touhou is relatively easy in the realm of bullet hells.
>>738793352This is too confusing to even make sense as a joke.
>>738805034the reason why waw is the hardest cod on veteran is because of the constant grenade spam that was never addressed
>>738793189DSP duped and an autist weaponized himself to reverse engineer exactly how much he farmed or duped. DSP really is the ultimate faggot. https://youtu.be/rSdU1KbK-Qc
>>738793053Zelda 2: The Adventure of Link
>>738793352>Call of Duty>Dark souls, 3 no less, lmao>No DOOM Plutonia ExperimentA zoomer hipser faggot made this.
>>738804719>finish And there it is. Try reading the bottom of the chart you retard mongoloid. Or are you just going to remember that all these games you forget even playing you actually beat them on the hardest difficulty.Gtfo shitter retard
>>738805647CoD1 on Vet has no regen HP, no health packs and 2-3 hits til death. Make it more obvious you never played it.
>>738793352I never understood what they meant by save states or single credit for the souls games, evil within, GoW, vanquish etc. Do they mean a deathless run or just normal completion?
>>738793237
>>738793352>Metal Slug 1 and 5>God of war series this has to be bait
>>738805648>you didn't beat the game unless you turned it into absolute torture "Beat" isn't the right word to use here. The right word is something more like "mastered," because there's no way anyone is going to meet those standards for every game they play unless they're completionists/speedrunners/autistic.
>>738805797Are you some console baby clutching to his joystick who never played a Quake deathmatch?
>>738806212CoD1 was PC exclusive you tard
>>738796652Game isn't hard because it lets you cheese it. It's only hard when you play like a role playing faggot
>>738802069Mario lost levels ISNT retro.I havent played most on my list. Call of duty is hard? Really?
I bet nobody on this board ever including me has completed(!) Wipeout HD/Fury
>>738806292It literally isn't
>>738793053Takeshi's Challenge. All other answers are wrong.
>>7388061151cc for Slug and VH for GoW, you illiterate tard, neither of which you have done
>>738806423It literally is zoomer retard. CoD Classic launched over a decade after
>>738793053I'll throw in a curveball.
Silver Surfer is shit easy for a shmup and that alone tells most of these lists are just people parroting shit.
>>738793053The only games that I've quit becouse they were too hard are La-Mulana and Monster Hunter FU solo G rank.
>>738793053Skifree
>>738806838FU solo G rank is easier than most that came after it, you were just bad
>>738793352Mega Man 1 and Lion King confirms this is a hodgepodge of millenial "da hardest frickin games evar!" screwattack lists with a smattering of le hardcore arcade/retro games from /vmork/
>>738806292Must've been your first PC game, zoomer noob. No reason to call it hard in 20 fucking 03, other than being a console peasant noob who never had a Quake deathmatch before.
>>738806627why make up bullshit that can easily be refuted with 2 seconds of effort? seriously? why?
>>738807039Both legitimately hard games. Post clears
>>738803832>No one ITT has even played itThat doesn’t make it any less difficult dingus.
>>738793505For I concur.
>>738807351They had PS3 and 360 in 2003? News to meThis has to be bait, I refuse to believe someone is this illiterate and braindead
>>738806703Is this even possible? There's not even footage of this game being beaten.
>>738793352>No Arcade's RevengeShit list
>>738806387i didthe fury campaign is unbearable because destroying ships is annoying as hell
>>738803468Dustforce mentioned, hell yeah. That game is awesome. And only 0.05% of people on steam have beat the game. You can cheat Engine to slow the game down and cheese that too, so I’m guessing it’s even far less than that>>738802069Listen, Ikaruga is impure, unfun, vastly overrated, and the tourist’s shmup of choice. But it’s not “one of the easier shmups”. It’s not one of the hardest either, but come on man, let’s be real. And then calling souls-likes arguably the hardest games of all time is just a joke, I have a feeling you might be trolling. I played them all on release and while I’ll admit my first runs took some attempts, the difficulty is just well-balanced and tuned. On the higher end sure but what you’re saying is outright retarded. Nobody ever gets stuck on any souls boss for more than like 30 attempts or about an hour or two. And that’s worst case, I’m fighting isshin for the first time stuff. Every casual gamer plays and beats souls games, while there are games out there that not even one percent of people can finish. Pull your head out of your ass
>>738803656There is
>>738807092Because it's on veteran it's one of the hardest FPS? Plus those other FPS are primarily multiplayer focused.You never even beat it on Vet, why are you still talking lmao
>>738793053Red Dead Redemption IIthe difficulty is tolerating how boring it is
op please adopt a trip so i can filter your garbage threads easier
>>738805648Finish, as in beat*, asterisk and all. Shut the fuck up dude.
>>738807039ThisEvery TGM fan knows Tetris the Grandmaster 1 is mogged in difficulty by its sequels; the game stops getting faster after the halfway point, in 2&3 you have to keep getting faster, and then there's the Death difficulty rabbit hole where if you aren't a god level player the game tells you to fuck off after a few minutes because it knows you won't stand a chance.
>>738807769Never was that annoyed by it, for me what crushed all my hopes for ever finishing the fury campaign was those shmup phantom zone things
Zombies ate my neighbors. You ain't beating it with passwords as you need to stockpile supplies from previous levels. Played the game a shit ton as a kid and could never get passed the sand worms. Really bothered me as a kid as I generally beat all the games I liked. Having a game I simply couldn't made me feel inferior.
>>738807790>And only 0.05% of people on steam have beat the game. You can cheat Engine to slow the game down and cheese that too, so I’m guessing it’s even far less than thatJesus christ, I would have assumed maybe 0.5-1% completion, but that's insane.I know I'm mentally ill because this statistic makes me more encouraged than not to play the game again.
>>738803468WaW is pretty hard. The grenade spam on veteran is a real pain desu senpai.
>>738793352I beat all of them as well as your mom
>>738807859Multiplayer deathmatch is by definition harder than your console baby's first pc shooter scripted ww2 CoDshit, kid.
>>738794025Souls games are not hard. The problem with most gamers is that they are braindead subhumans.
>>738808023>zonezone mode was my favourite mode but destroying ships is boring as hell thats why fury was so annoying to complete
>>738807351>>738807554Ay, ay, ay, you people.
>>738793053what is touhou?i dont think the question is well defined because difficult can mean different thingsgames with a higher skill floor and are unintuitive are generally regarded as more difficult>>738795115>>738798306i dont think any casual is having fun on their first few credits of iidx on dp, and iidx dp is its own gamenot everyone has the same idea of how difficulty is compared and i think this is why difficulty levels are hard to justify. if we stick to iidx as an example, is it how difficult a chart is to achieve an assist clear? normal clear? hard clear? ex-hard clear? full combo? AAA? MAX? do we consider RANDOM?
>>738808129Steam completion rates are not indicative of anything. You regularly see games where only 30% of people got the cheevo for completing the tutorial.
>>738807720People have made the claim that they did, but I've never seen any proofs.
>>738807790I meant one of the easier shmups on the list. And I never called Souls the hardest game of all time, I said one of the hardest of all time just to simply beat, and even compared to hardest difficulty in games, it's still harder than overwhelming vast majoirty. You have to throw a bunch of qualifiers like no death or max ranks to actually get harder than Souls (and that's before adding any qualifiers onto Souls)>Nobody ever gets stuck on any souls boss for more than like 30 attempts or about an hour or two. That's absolutely not true, and even if it were, bosses are only one part of the game, stages are significantly harder (at least prior to 3), the games have dozens of bosses, and runbacks are several minutes long, and many are difficult in their own right. You really think something like Contra or Zelda 2 or GnG or Battletoads is all that hard if someone has the same tenacity for those gamss as this hypothetical Souls player does for Souls?
>>738808006Post TGM 1ccGM in TGM still takes players several hundred hours of practice and plays different than the later games
>>738806703>>738807720>>738808682If you were playing the game embedded at like 320x240, you might not have been able to rub the tiny, pixel-sized spot that makes the bar go up way faster. You have to basically hammer on that and use the right items at the right time simultaneously.
>>738807790.5% =/= .05% you fucking retard
>>738807790That's for max rank in every single stage... and that's 10x the amount you said. 1/2 of 1%, not 1/20th of 1%
>>738808327Zone is THE shit, what I hated was zone while shooting balls
>>738808974Could someone spoonfeed me on where to find these percentages? Not seeing it on SteamDB.
>>738798696>>738804704Only correct answers in the thread, plus Wings of Vi on demon mode
>>738807790I will never get the hate for Ikaruga. I guess it's like the IQ bell curve but for shmups where midwits hate it for being the "tourist’s shmup of choice".
>>738807886>"Bro RDR is like totally epic and wholesome 100 game bro">It's a generic movie "game">"GTA V is le bad and for le kidderinos!">It's 100% pure distilled kino
Dark souls IS the correct answer. It ISN'T the hardest game of all time, but it IS widely regarded as the hardest game of all time and what normies say when you bring up hardest game. Any personal opinion doesn't apply you faggots
>>738808327the detonator mode was not that badi dont mind a survival mode
>>738793352I'm fairly certain that surviving WW2 is easier than beating this game on veteran
I Wanna Be the Boshy and similar are the hardest but if we're talking "games you buy at walmart" not internet torture simulators like Getting Over It then uhhhh Sekiro or The Witness
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>>738810880Eh getting over it is more of a gimmick game with a fucked up learning curve, people decent at it basically fly through the game and are still miles away from speedtranny pace.
>>738810460doom eternal is the hardest single player fps game not cod waw
>>738811218hmm yeah fair enough
>>738793053Stellar Blade It's impossible to play two handed
>>738793053Real Life
>>738812460any% clear is easy as fuck100% clear remains to be achieved, probably impossible because of bugs
>>738811508>bing bing wahoo bop-it slop Atleast 2016 is hard due to gameplay and not bop it mechanics
>>738793053The Guy Game, because it has child porn.
>>738793352>dark souls gamesYeah, no. Maybe if you go for a no save run. Maybe.
>>738812851A teenager is not a child
>>738812769the enemies in doom eternal are more aggressiveespecially the dlc and master levels
>>738793352Based (You) farmer.
What is being born in Africa?
>>738793053For me it's Skater XL, the most indepth sports sim I've ever encountered. Just to ollie 50-50 is an entire fiasco, a specific flip trick to specific grind takes real fucking skill and coordination.
>>738793053Spider-Man and the X-Men: Arcade's Revenge. One of the most bullshit games ever made.
>>738814905WAS WAITING FOR THIS ONEGONNA GIVE MY FUTURE KID 1K IF HE CAN SIT DOWN AND BEAT THAT POSAlso Superman 64
>>738808884Eh I may remember this one day
>>738806361World at War specifically because of the grenade spamHalo 2 Legendary is the hardest FPS
>>738811201Bloodborne is has one hard boss and piss easy levels. It should not be placed two tiers above the souls series.
>>738806361>Mario lost levels ISNT retro.It's an NES and SNES game, how the fuck is that not retro
>>738793053>ten posts before someone mentioned battletoadsit's owari da
Demons Souls is hard but it's also one of those games where the moment you learn the games weaknesses it breaks wide open. Like Knowing where to get the Dragon Longsword, The Crescent Falchion and the Lava bow and the game runs out of real threats to throw at you.
