is Toby Fox writing a newsletter? He's been so quiet it's unnerving
>>738807469Newsletter? (laughs)
>>>/vg/
>>738807848>3 months without a single word on Chapter 5this peace is what all warriors strive for
>>738808548What was he thinking
>>738807469There's not really much to say besides that they're working on it. He'll throw out a release date only when the chapter is 100% ready to drop, no sooner.
>>738808687suzy
>Sebastian Wolff retweeted a post from the UT/DR Xitter account originally used to announce UT's demo release ("Tomorrow... it'll be time to wake up and smell the flowers.")>Today: nothing happens.What did he mean by this?
i cannot understand how zoomers and alphas consume this tripe
>>738809426It's modern day Oedipus Rex, if you look past the gay ass fandom you'll experience the most thematically profound video game of all time.
>>738807469What kind of game will Toby Fox make after he finishes Deltarune?
>>738809564Given the absolute state of his wrists, it'll be a miracle if he'll even have the motivation to make any kind of game after Deltarune's done. He'll probably just fall back towards all the shit he promised he'd do for the Undertale Kickstarter and then some.>Return to the damn alarm clock, now with Day 1 Deltarune overlay DLC.>Make even MORE merch! Probably even lifting the embargo on Deltarune lightner/Undertale human merch if he ever becomes desperate.>Make even MORE collabs that he'll now have free reign of doing.>Newsletter repurposed to show comics of UT/DR characters and put all of this in your face.
>>738808683I wish Toby wasn't famous so he could roleplay and vaguepost on Twitter more
>>738809057
>>738809374Attention whoring like a fag, nothing more
holding onto my toy story 5 coin
>>738809564he will make music for pokemon and vtubers for eternity
>I'm looking through what I think is the oldest text document about Deltarune I can findKind of crazy that this was almost certainly written with Human Susie in mind
>>738811856i thought toby changed his mind about the whole 'humans become monsters in the dark world' before he wrote anything down aside from the basic premise of the dream
>>738807469All we can do is WAIT now. There's not going to be news for awhile. >>738809374That was the concert being announced for Mexico so once again the latinx screwed us over.
>>738811930Maybe? I just remember him saying that the characters being humans in the Light World and monsters in the Dark World was the original concept (or at least an older one that was considered), and if this is from early 2012 or earlier it might have still been the case.
>>738812153i was under the impression he changed his mind on the 'becoming monsters' thing almost immediately, likely because he knew the tf fags would overwhelmingly make it about their fetish if he did make it part of the game
why did toby do it ?
>>738813190>This secret route about taking control and manipulating an innocent girl to do your bidding would DEFINTELY never ever ever make an allusion to rape I promise
>>738813190he knows that someone's been doing the raping
>>738809927I think he's too autistic to really not do anything, even with a broken body he probably will end up making another game eventually. (or get employed by Nintendo, though I don't think he would do really good in a giant team)
>>738809564He will probably just work on other people's games or quirky Underrune spinoffs. Not much else because his wrists are broken.
>>738813385>get hired by Nintendofuck no, Toby is a rare creative type that works better alone. He only let a producer take the reins of DELTARUNE's production because with his wrist condition we'd all have wrinkles before the game was complete.
>>738813385nut dealer 2040believe it
He's getting a lot of emails, and that's why he doesn't have time to work on his game. This is a very common problem among indie developers.
>>738813190hahahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCVj0hWxrxM&t=7642s
>>738813831what a demented man
>>738807469Lets hope he just post this on his bluesky instead any of any text
>>738814209wtf I love Fangamer now
>>738809564Deltarune 2: Child of Susie and Kris
>>738813831I knew Toby was sort of Christian but what is this supposed to mean
>>738813190Kris is the most raped character in fiction.
>>738807848This basically would be a newsletter outside of him talking about that time he sucked ZUN's dick or collaborated with a vtuber for a songSometimes they have teasers but he said anything would spoil the game so this is what we get
>>738809564He hasn't mentioned anything beyond Deltarune, which was hinted at since pre Undertale release times So I imagine either nothing, or he's not talkative about future plans
>>738814287It's just shitposting about Christmas specials, the romhack was made for a winter/holiday event and part of the "story" is that it's Christmas
>>738814761Also, if he were to make another game, he should figure out a permanent solution to the engine issue since Gamemaker had to be updated for specifically him, and he likely will need more updates
>>738814287That christ died for Ness's sins.
>>738811930He changed that specifically because of Undertale so that was probably with human Susie, actually.
>>738815309Christ died for ALL sins anon
>>738815365i thought he decided against that long before he started any work on undertale
>>738815970No, it was because it didn't make any sense with Undertale specifically.
>>738807469Anon, there's not gonna be a newsletter until Toby is absolutely certain about a release date for Chapter 5, and he has said the chapter will not come out in the first half of the year, so forget about it until at least July, and maybe even later.
>>738814823He could alsi just not use game maker. It's that easy.
>>738816647he'll make a hype newsletter once ch5 gets announced in the next nintendo direct
Reminder that someone fucking made an engine specifically for Deltarune and for Toby fox to use but he declined because he wanted to use fucking game maker! The same fucking game maker that has a bricked version of Lisa the painful
>>738807469>>738807848He is definitely at least making a statement once we reach the 1st anniversary of chapters 3+4 in June 5.It also might as well be "We're still working hard! No teasers because everything is a spoiler and no chapter 5 release date (laughs). Check out my new collab with a Japanese v-tuber."
>>738817631who
>>738817684That's still a month away, I expect real news then.
I HAVE INFORMATION THAT WILL LEAD TO THE ARREST OF W. D. GA-
>>738814287Why would he made "christmas" canon in Deltarune instead of making up a fictional holiday? Do you think Toby is actually making a Christpilled game?
>>738819101It's just because of the holidays, it's not that deep
so was there any real reason he needed game maker to add the game_change function
>>738819101Toby was in his Church's youth group, and I think he's still in the faith.
>>738819243They're all bad to mediocre programmers and doing it inside a single executable lead to bloat and bad performance.The old 1+2 demo already had duplicated assets for everything, the characters, the maps and so on.
>>738807469Wow
>>738819346duplicated assets? why?
Which side suffered more losses?
>>738819425My guess is that a mix of spaghetti code, the game keeping track of every little bullshit interaction and how often the game twists its basic mechanics made so that duplicated assets would be more manageable.
>>738819101Making up fake gulp shitto knockoff holidays is lame and gay. Characters can celebrate Christmas and say "Oh my God" without any actual religious significance, it's fine.There are also multiple significant details that rely on it specifically being Christmas.
>>738819435Wars are fought over goals, and us latinxes lost because Toby did not concede. But he had to suffer huge losses in terms of PR, and his good will reserves were already stretched thin with all the controversies pilling up.
>>738819694Yeah it's really gay and retarded to try to "erase" the Christian naming conventions in the West.
>>738819425>compiling takes too long because they don't know how to use gamemaker correctly>split the project file itself off into its own thing for each chapter>now changes to one chapter have to be duplicated across all of them manually (or just not do it which is why there are random gameplay differences between chapters)>chapter 1+2 demo just smashed both project files together with prefixes added to every asset namecouldn't apply when they were holding job applications for programmers because you had to have INDUSTRY EXPERIENCE to qualify btw (or make a briefly popular fangame LMAO)
>>738819101>>738819694Undertale and Deltarune were always Christian games.
>>738819889Based.Christ is King
>>738819435that entire "controversy" looked like picrel to me, except people were taking it super seriously
>>738820082We love asian girl Frisk here.
>>738819889In the "universal love and goodwill" sense sure, not so much the "Christ is King" LARPing neocon faggot way
>>738819758>he had to suffer huge losses in terms of PR,This is what they tell themselves to cope while they spend $150 on a Tenna toy knowing that the rest of the world forgot this ever happened weeks ago
>>738820328It all flows back to Christ in the end Anon.
>>738820328>implying God is some kind "good energy"No, God is one Being, in three Persons. And yes, Christ is the King of the kings. In Lu
>>738819435Us because we are without news because of it
>>738819435Well, I continue to care about Deltarune and I continue to not care about brown people, sooooooo
>>7388206911 John 4:8
>>738821385kino
>>738819864How else would he vet people to be at least competent? I only disagree with the fangame stuff unless they actually made something technically impressive/creative
>>738819435>tobias is still in hiding and unable to send out a newsletterLooks like the side with nothing to lose didn't lose anything again. Really gets the noggin joggin.
>>738822023He's talking about Taxiderby who made the versus Red fangame.
>>738822181do you guys actually believe this or are you merely pretending?
>>738822219>you guys
>>738822256not the first time I've seen someone make that claim. not even the first time this thread.
>>738819435Toby unironically lost alot of good will in the community, and we're suffering for it with his dead silenceLATAM never got their translation and probably never will, but a common thing was to call their bullshit out for having played the game in English. It never mattered to them.
>>738822290Not the first time you got unreasonably angry on behalf of a guy who doesn't even want to tell you when his game's coming out either.
>>738822309His games barely even got reviewbombed, I think Deltarune didn't even lose a percent of its rating while Undertale lost like 0.5This means that either >The angry people didn't play the game>The angry people pirated the gameIn most cases, these people don't matter as they either are on the cancel train bandwagon, or have no intention to give Toby money.Most people don't even know of this, unless they frequently use twitterIf you want to see people getting pissed off/PR losses, look at slay the spire 2 for when Megacrit nerfed infinites, or when people realized they consulted with Anita Sarkeesian
>>738819435latinx for getting exposed as the retarded side of the fanbase who can't read the texttoby isn't obligated to personally translate the game into a language he doesn't know he's still a fag for prioritizing the nips over everyone else though
>>738822846the latinx sounded very entitled throughout the entire affair tbqh and it doesn't help that they made the dumbest arguments calling Toby a Mossad agent like a bunch of braindead parrots
>>738819864>they don't know how to use gamemaker correctlysource
>>738822846No, we like Toby being a filthy weeb here. He must make more content for them. They make the best content.
I miss when people were genuinely excited for Toby's stuffNow it's all theoryfags who just want to sell you on their latest headcanon
>>738823670I'm excited. I'm sure most of us are. But you can only post something along the lines of "gee willikers I'm so dang excited for chapter 5!" so many times.
>>738822309>Toby unironically lost alot of good will in the communityThere's no way anyone actually believes this
>>738823670theoryfags were doing the same thing after ch2people forgot most of them because they sucked ass and obviously didn't end up happening this wave feels worse because we know we're close to release but toby is being unusually radio silent on it, we've gotten jack shit for months
Going to fuck the deer and there is nothing Toby can do about it.
>>738823753I wouldn't say I'm excited, just mildly interestedI haven't been following most of the theory stuff so I just want a decent story. That's the real issue, I hope Toby won't make the story way too schizo so normies can't follow it
>>738823670People are still excited, that's why we have daily threads, man.
>>738824229I think the theory stuff has only gotten as schizo as it has because of the wait. If you ignore all the fan autism and just look at what's been put out thus far, it's pretty straightforward. He even has a recurring group of characters that exist for the sole purpose of poking fun at theoryfags.
>>738824075He lost SOME goodwill against the spics but that's really it. Most people already moved on outside of here. The most damage was making Toby completely shut up in general.
when was the latest newletter?
>>738824626December 18th
>>738823670So much time has passed I am gaslighting myself into believing the game isn't good
>>738824229Most (popular) theories only seem schizo because you have to rely on connecting a web of bullshit to justify them, for now. Introducing them into the story should be much more straightforward.
>>738819326>and I think he's still in the faith.As much as I want this to be true, we both know that's not the case with how hard he's pushing yurishit and other gay shitI think it's more how he's respecting Christians because he grew with them, and that he may come from a Christian familyI can't see Toby to be religious the same Scott Cawthon is, with the latter has a history of making explicitly Christian stuff
>>738822846>toby isn't obligated to personally translate the game into a language he doesn't knowHe isn't obliged to personally translate anything, that was the point, the latinx were mad he just wouldn't let some localizer do it for him like 99% of devs normally would. This entire affair exposed Toby as either 1) too autistic for his own good 2) a weaboo to an obnoxious degree and 3) racist at worst
>>738824982a shame that the latinx translation of toby's post into spicese was shoddily done and full of shit that was flat out not what he said, thus proving that toby's stance was the correct one
>>738824982>if you won't sell me a version of your product that you can't guarantee the quality of you're racist
>>738824970You know pro-LGBT christians exist right
>>738824982All those 3 things you listed are good though. It's nice he's a racist weaboo and his autism makes his games good.
>>738825114Literally every game that has ever been translated has this issue, sometimes the quality isn't up to standards and it is what it is, but Toby is the only dev who finds this issue so bad he would rather not do a translation at all
>>738824970Toby is a liberal Christian from a super liberal church. They're an extremely pro-LGBT church that basically just acts as Hometown's church. I think his sect doesn't believe in sin, either.
>>738825375>Jesus died for your sins>what sin?wut
>>738825313And that's a good thing!
>>738819694The only thing Noelle can think about is December and Krismas, and people still think Suselle is a thing
>>738825313>sometimes the quality isn't up to standards and it is what it isIt doesn't have to beI don't know why you would advocate for paying money for a lower quality product
>>738819101Think? I know it.
>>738825468No one is paying for translations though? If it's bad just don't use it and change it back to english motherfucker
>>738819694This is why it's so surreal and weird. Everything about the game is pure made up fantasy. Monsters are real, Darkners as a betime story for monsters is also real, Humans are genderless femboys. Everything is cartoony and unrealistic like Undyne benchpressing cars etc. Basically everything from setting to writing to characters is a goofy fantasy story. YET out of all things we literally have our real life Christmas holiday, which mean Bible and Jesus Christ and Jewish Middle East along with Roman Empire is somehow canon in this cartoon setting ON TOP of fictional monster religion about Deltarune. JUST WHY? Is there going to be a finale epilogue where Kris "wake up" and it turns into live action Toby Fox waking up in a church and dreaming about this entire game while his Christian holiday got intermixed with pure furry fantasy about a tomboy bully?
>>738824970It's normal to believe in God and treat gay people with the same love and respect that you were told to give to all people, actually
>>738809564Hopefully something. I'm very critical of Deltarune and often shitpost in these threads calling it a tranny game or whatever. But it would actually sadden me if this NIGGER Toby Fox got into his own head and convinced himself Deltarune was his peak and never tried to do anything ambitious again.
>>738820691Luke sound like Trump tweeting.You will call him Jesus AND HE WILL BE GREAT. And he will REIGN FOREVER. MAGA!!
>>738825542>No one is paying for translations though?So you're not buying the game, but want him to put in months of extra work to change it for you anyway?
>>738824970Toby was raised in what is now one of those retarded rainbow churches. I don't think he's that bad, but he's close.
>>738822309>call their bullshit out for having played the game in EnglishI spent my whole childhood locked away from playing story heavy games because I didn't understand english. I'm here now because I spend the last 10 years of my life painfully learning the language bit by bit, but I lost many experiences back them anyway. Can't you conceive we're arguing in favor of those who can't read it?Toby came from the fucking Earthbound community who to this day whines about getting an official translation for Mother 3, he out of all people should relate to this. A spanish translation is the fucking bare minimum any popular indie game gets, and don't forget how he never went back to the Korean translation from the Undertale demo.But in all honesty, I don't want him to focus on that at least for now, he should have just made the whole thing in english only first, but I'm pissed off we have to WAIT for the Japanese when they're as capable of making fan translations as everyone else is.>>738824075>>738824476You guys need to have the context of how Toby Fox had a golden good will of people. He survived a lot of controversies unscathed, the kind that would have destroyed other celebrities. Samael, the Halloween Hack, Materia, Omocat, the wilting rose, he managed to defuse all of those somehow. I saw people getting angry over the OFF remake stuff, but those are a whole other community.The translation drama was the first time he didn't come out on top, it might not be much now but it's a sign of the good will beginning to crack.
>>738825375episcopalians believe in sin retard
>>738825587>YET out of all things we literally have our real life Christmas holiday, which mean BibleNo, anon. It means the game was written by a white boy from New Hampshire.
>>738825739>months of extra workHe could literally just hire some spanish translator for $500 to make an Undertale translation completely parallel to his work
>>738825819>The translation drama was the first time he didn't come out on top, it might not be much now but it's a sign of the good will beginning to crack.
>>738825819Toby doesn't owe you a fucking translation, Paco. You're lucky he lets you make your own.Guess what, Americans don't care if Latin America can play our games or not. If your reaction to that is to get angry and spiteful and try to ruin and slander a prodigious creator's reputation, then you just prove that we are right to disregard you. Do you think we do that to the Japanese when they don't give us translations? No, because we're not retarded ingrates.Learn some manners and some respect. You are speaking to your betters, not equals. Acting like it is the only way you will be rewarded.
>>738825689so true bestie very cool
>>73882586225th of December connected to the main LORE and Dess and Noelle's family as well as main protagonists name is the day where Jesus Christ was born. It is somehow important in this goofy Homestuck furry setting. Not just throw away reference to real life human holiday.
>>738825904And give an official, canon stamp to content he can't verify? Are you fucking retarded?
>>738825819That's tragic, ESL-kun. Perhaps you can cope by killing yourself, at least that way you can stop being a millstone that holds everyone else back.
>>738825689Jesus was never homophobic. It was the later addition to the bible by the popes that made them satanic heathens.
>>738825819>The translation drama was the first time he didn't come out on top
>>738819101Now you see it? >Character full name is Krismas >Krismas = Christmas = Christ >during weird route we make Noelle wear a ring made of thorns >The angel from the prophecy
>>738826250He can verify. He could sit down with the translator and have it explained to him like "Ok senor Fox we have translated sans calling the player 'paco' here because" and stuff. Or he could not verify like the majority of other developers do.
I genuinely cannot imagine even giving a bit of a shit about translation unless you a spic having an ethnonarcissist fit. You're on a forum reading and writing in English, stop being a faggot. Who CARES
>>738826478I really hope your emotion is just overriding your reason here and you don't actually believe the shit you're saying. Because if the words you are typing are a sincere expression of your sober, calm thought process then you must be mentally handicapped.I don't think that's true, I think you're just jealous and angry and can't control yourself, so just listen to me when I tell you that the things you're saying are retarded.
>>738825904You people are genuinely fucking stupidLike you just fundamentally do not understand his position, even after he clearly explained it, so what am I supposed to say to you?Toby has been into JRPGs his whole life and knows how many of them have been completely fucking butchered in translation, he doesn't want anything like that to happen to his games, so his policy is that he won't officially release a version of his story that he can't personally verify is accurate to what he actually wrote. Is that so hard to understand?>um just hire a "professional?" that's LITERALLY their job???lolEven if a localizer isn't doing a complete hackjob treating the material with open contempt, a completely well-intentioned translator can still make serious mistakes that completely change the meaning of a work. That is why when Toby DID hire 8-4 to do the Japanese localization, he wants to work with them as closely as possible to ensure mistakes like that don't happen.He is motivated by caring about the integrity of his work, it is frankly fucking ridiculous to accuse him of any kind of malice for having standards. He doesn't even care if you pirate his game and play fan translations, what's important are HIS OWN WORDS being accurately represented in the official version of the game.
>>738826464Yeah and it breaks immersion. Because it means our world is connected to Deltarune or the monsters had their own monster Jesus. Or maybe it's some alternate retelling where Jesus wasn't crucified? Because i don't remember seeing any cross symbols in Deltarune or Undertale.
>>738826648toby literally uses crosses for Madjick's magic as a symbol of holiness, and there's a cross in the sky in the frozen wastes at the end of the Chapter 3.
>>738824185aggressive Noelle is an extremely attractive thought. I hope toby makes her boldness stay enjoyable like when she said she "You don't scare me." to her old babysitter
>>738826478Unless Toby familiarise himself with Spanish, he would be literally useless in helping on the translation. Translator woudn't know how to even explain to Toby and he woudn't get what phrase to use without studying the language and its use. He would 100% depend on the latino guy to do his job and depend on his sense of humor and whether his phrasing is more neutral or more woke.
The only thing I wonder is why is ice magic so important and why is the only way to actually kill Darkners.
>>738825917I'm a macaco actually
>>738826243Christmas is not being celebrated as a Christian day of worship. It's a secular American holiday. Noelle's house is covered in tinsel, not crosses.Hometown's religion borrows the vague aesthetic of Christianity without any of the doctrine or substance. It's saying about as much about Christianity as Neon Genesis Evangelion did.
>>738826319Love the sinner not the sin.Yes homosexuality is sinful, the Pauline epistles clearly forbid it.
>>738825587>Humans are genderless femboys.They're lolis you fagboy
>>738826774>aggressive Noelle is an extremely attractive thoughtbased
>>738825839I stand corrected, then.
>>738826916"Saying something about Christianity" is not the standard which determines if something is Christian or not.
so, two more years until the next chapter?
>>738827139No.Two more tomorrows.
>>738825819>The translation drama was the first time he didn't come out on top, it might not be much now but it's a sign of the good will beginning to crackThis isn't really true, Toby's tweet didn't immediately solve the issue like everytime but everyone mostly forgot as the spics shot themselves in the foot by making Toby a jew and appearing as evil racist chuds.
>>738826916In order for Christmas to even be mentioned, Jesus would need to exist in their fictional universe. Its not like Easter Bunny which can be referenced outside of Christian influence as he was a pagan character.
>>738827130No, but belief in Jesus Christ as the son of God and part of the Trinity of God - Three persons one divine nature, eternal and codivine, consubstantial - Is. That is not present in Hometown. Toby himself is jewish.
>>7388271394th of June.
>>738826862This is the Holidays game and this is their main magic.
>>738826630Nonsensical and psychotic worry where you're utilizing examples of big companies who threw whatever terrible translation job was available and they had all the freedom because the original writers had no word in it nor were even aware sometimes.We're talking about Toby Fox, who owns the game, self-publishes, and has full control of almost every decision. If Toby believes his work is so precious he can only be certain of its quality if he personally oversees the translation, and he cannot, for the life of his, trust a localizer, and cross-check the translation with multiple sources he can also trust in case he wants to be extra careful, then he's just being unreasonable. I can respect the decision but I still have the right to find that excessive and stupid. I would respect him more if he just admitted it's more of a case where he'd want to do exactly that but it's too much work. In the same way Toby not releasing plush toys of Lighters is also stupid, but it's his creative choice.
>>738827139No, that's for 6 and 7.
>>738827139August or September for Chapter 5. July if we get lucky, October if we get unlucky, November or December if the production pipeline is still as bad as it was in the past, 2027+ if something went horribly wrong behind the scenes.2029 for chapters 6 and 7. 2028 if producer-sama actually turned development around OR if chapter 7 is just a hallway to the final boss. 2030 if the development is still as slow as it was in the past. 2031+ is something goes very wrong.
>>738827253Toby isn't Jewish just because he has a big nose, moron. And Christian art doesn't need to constantly beat the audience over the head with the Trinity to be Christian.
>>738826862Because Darkners come from a fountain, IE, water. They're made of water. Did the water fountain/mizzle thing just go over your head?
>>738826862Because Santa and Reindeers= North Pole = freezing tundra (and yeah most cartoon and stories portray Santa in tundra because Lapland was the original home of Santa and the elves, there are no trees and reindeers on North Pole)
>>738827448No, but doctrinally it should be similar. LGBT is deeply antichrist and yet it's all over Deltarune/Undertale.
>>738827341Then accept that his actions just seem unreasonable and stupid to you and shut the fuck up.
>>738827130If "culturally Christian" is good enough for you then sure, we agree that this game was in fact written by a white boy from New Hampshire.>>738827249>In order for Christmas to even be mentioned, Jesus would need to existChristmas and God are mentioned because it's a story authored by an American. This is not "lore," it's the culture of the writer, in the same way as the pop culture references.You are being more autistic than the guy actually writing the gay furry Homestuck game.
>>738826862something something symbolism something something frozen things never changeI haven't fully formed this thought, but that's where I think it's going
>>738827462Original Bible Santa was Nicholas of Myra, his death is still celebrates on December 6th known as Nicholas day in Christian countries. He was the original guy who thrown bags of gold through chimney to help people who were about to sell into prostitution or slavery as well as the supposedly made wooden toys himself he gifted to orphans.
>>738827515It certainly is similar. It is almost a 1:1 replication of Liberal Christian doctrine. You can think whatever you want about that branch of Christianity, but it is a branch of Christianity.>>738827531You are coping because you are ideologically repulsed by the thought and not because you actually believe what you're saying.
>>738827516No I don't think I will, we're in the endless /v/ deltarune thread where people complain endlessly about the same things
>>738827253>Toby is JewishThis lie started because of a meme, kek.Toby was raised in the Episcopal Church. And like the other anon said, Christian media, at least quality media, doesn’t hammer you with advanced stuff like Christology, Theology, compatibilism, Realism, etc etc etc. Think about it, LotR, Narnia, Dostoevsky’s novels, none of these works try selling you Christianity, theyre just undoubtedly Christian thematically because the authors were Christians themselves. Anything Western is Christian, it is inevitable.
>>738827341>Nonsensical and psychotic worryIt's actually very normal and understandable to worry about your words being misrepresented and impugning your reputationLike a Spanish clickbait site grossly misrepresenting Toby's statement on this topic, which provoked days of additional outrage from ignorant teenagers based on complete bullshit>We're talking about Toby Fox, who owns the game, self-publishes, and has full control of almost every decisionAnd he cannot have that control over his own words if he doesn't understand the language that someone else is re-writing them in.How is Toby supposed to judge if a translator successfully conveyed his joke in another language's humor? What about localization decision adopting to their culture?The Japanese translation was effectively re-writing the game for a Japanese audience with Toby's extensive supervision and input, how can he be expected to maintain that standard of quality for Portuguese, German, Russian and Chinese translations? He can't, so he's not going to. It's as simple as that.
I wish I grew up with a childhood friend.
>>738827863>episcopalianoh noit's even worse.......
>>738827840>but it is a branch of Christianity.*branch of heretical christianity
>>738827930It's overrated. They disappear like everything else and eventually you realize that such connections are just wounds in the making.
>>738827920DOG = GODKRIS = CHRISTOMG Toby is a father of Kris!
>>738827956every sect of christianity would be considered heretical by christians 100 years ago
>thinking Toby unironically supports LGBT shit Clearly you don’t understand Japanese humor and sensibilities. Also, Toby is kind of a pervert.
>>738828026
>>738828023That’s not true, heresy is only when a established institution continuously and officially affirms a heretical doctrine, yes a few libshit minister might be super work and say shit like how Jesus didn’t ACTUALLY come back to life, and that God doesn’t ACTUALLY exist, which just defeat the whole purpose of Christianity. But still, the institutions themselves aren’t out here denying the Trinity or something crazy like that. That’s why Mormons are heretics but not Anglicans
Episcopalian church is the most liberal branch of Christian religion and allows open gays and lesbian to act as not only priests but also bishops. HOWEVER they are not so open about trans issues which is why i think Toby is not trying to be progressive about Kris being non binary like his troon audience wants him to be.
>>738827840>You are coping because you are ideologically repulsed by the thoughtThe thought of what, retard?You're applying an arbitrary standard of significance to religious signifiers that are actually generic cultural signifiers, the same standard could be applied to other real-world cultural references and idioms that "don't make sense" in a fantasy world divorced from our own, but they don't have to, because it's just a fucking story.If you actually believe Jesus Christ is going to show up like we're playing fucking Xenogears you're mentally ill
>>738827341Toby is being unreasonable and that's a good thing.
>>738827920>The Japanese translation was effectively re-writing the game for a Japanese audience That's because it's a localization, where everything is adapted. It doesn't necessarily have to be as big as a localization as many fans weren't even asking for something of such lenght. But if he really is all or nothing about fully recontextualizing every word of dialogue to its respective culture then he should have specified what his worries actually are instead of just mentioning "translation" in his statement.
>>738828154Clearly you haven’t seen the Methodists
>>738827986in a cosmic sort of way, yes
>>738822591>>738822846an entire continent having a bad opinion about you in their spaces is a bad thing, especially because it wasnt the case before thisno matter how you spin it
>>738828026Toby literally made Andonuts gay because he wanted more gay representation in games.
Deltarune should get a Saudi localization where Susie says "wallahi" and Noelle's family is big on Ramadan
>>738828026I wish he was at least half as perverted as any of his Japanese friends. But he doesn't even allows for a single panty shot or a beach/bikini fan service moment in his games. This is why people are sceptical about possible Kriselle or Krusie end games. This is something japanese dev WOULD DO but not something a liberal christfag would do. Both wokeness and puritanic teaching forbid him from objectifying female characters or to even desire a woman.
>>738828252Don't try arguing, they're not going to listen.And they will act surprised when something in chapter 5 becomes an actual controversy among the mainstream fandom on xwitter, as if good will hasn't been eroding real fast by now.
I will contribute to this very on-topical Undertale/Deltarune discussion by saying I find nun outfits hot.
This thread sucks, why aren't we posting memes about the hilarious new characters we met in chapters 3 and 4?Oh wait...
>>738828350I don't think anything in 5 can become a real controversy among the mainstream fandom. You will need to at least wait for 7 for the actual seethe over Deltarune's ending.
>>738828291Would Susie run over people of Snowdin on christmas shopping day?
>>738828252good thing that the latinx community actively does not matter at allthey don't buy the merch because they get rape shipping rates because spics steal something like 60% of parcels, they don't buy the game because there isn't an official spic translation, and what translation they do have is full of errors because their localizers don't understand englishit's also an open secret that if there was an official translation spics would just pirate it without a care in the world, because they wouldn't need to install a patch with with a virus in it
>>738828359undertale/deltarune is strictly agnostic though
>>738828337I'm thinking that Toby might be the single Liberal Christian Weeaboo in the universe. It's a fascinating combination that perfectly explains why none of his fans understand him.
>>738828359He is called KRIS as CHRISTNot Mary or Mari or another reference to female biblical character. Stop trying to make him a girl just because you have to goon to hentai 24/7.
>>738828565Okay? That's not Kris in the picture, blind-kun.
>>738828565kris is the feminine version of the spelling though
>>738828565Kris isn't a name for Christ though. Brush up on your bilble study.
>>738828419Do you think the mainstream fandom was happy or satisfied with shit like the Ol' Jitterbug? People are not outright sending death threats to Toby YET, but it really screwed the popular perception of Sans and Toriel.>but le alarm clock had toriel get drunk andNot the discussion being made here. We're talking about reception, and most people wanted Toriel to be the wholesome goat mom and Sans to be the heroic funny guy.>but those people are shallow and media illiterate andNot the discussion being made here. You may think he is a genius for defying expectations, but people just don't like watching characters they like be treated like that. And they will lash out after a certain point.Asgore has a lot of momentum behind him, I don't think people will be happy if his story follows the path it seems to be taking so far.
>>738825587You might actually be thinking too hard about it, anon. I don't think we're gonna get deepest lore in the library about lamb monster Moses splitting the Red Sea.
The same fucking old Toby shitpost in this very thread that drew out the American "Christians" pretending Toby's secretly heckin' based and Christpilled has him comparing the "Real Meaning of Christmas" (TM) to "the tomato rainbow after a fresh morning lasagna shower"How fucking insecure in your faith do you have to be to try to project your moralfagging proselytism onto the guy who has a 20 year public record of making progressive gay furry shit
>>738828687I don't think any mainstream person was bothered by the Soriel thing. People just made memes about killing Sans and found it funny.
>>738828392We can always waifupost as well
I had a dream Noelle snowgraves Asgore in chapter 5 with the term "iceberg""ice + bergentrückung"No idea why
>>738828687>Do you think the mainstream fandom was happy or satisfied with shit like the Ol' Jitterbug?Yeah. It was a good scene.
>>738826862there's a lot of goddamn symbolism in Deltarune. So far the only reasons I've figured Ice Magic is so busted is because programs get frozen and terminated, flowers die to extreme cold, Darkners petrifying gets described as being cold, you have to be cold and cruel to become stronger, something something freezing the game???
>>738828687The mainstream fandom didn't mind the jitterbug that much. Some got mad at Toriel or Sans but a lot of people defended them, too. People just made jokes about killing Sans and then went back to making edgy art of him while the fangirls lusted over his Undertale self. Toriel is the only one who got hit by but she's still mostly liked and defended outside of here.
>>738828359Giggety
spider wife
Do you think it'd be cool if Toby Fox had a feature on Drake's upcoming ICEMAN?The promotional material for the album rollout shows Drake's compound frozen over covered in frost and icicles, I assume the idea is that his bars are so ice cold they've frozen the world over. Anyway, the imagery is what I've imagined the end of Weird Route will be like.
>>738828894The very first official post about Deltarune:>It's cold.
>>738829017No offense, but Toby has kept himself away from black people for a reason.
>>738829054noelle knight bros...toby has been giving us clues all along
>>738828026Anon he's one of the wokest motherfuckers in the indie scene but can actually make a decent game
>>738829142That character is not a political statement, let alone a woke one.I mean, he is woke. But that scene is irrelevant.
>>738829130Drake is barely black. He like JUST meets the threshold to be able to use the n word. Kendrick called him a "colonizer" in Not Like Us
>>738829054>the black wind howlsToby is a hack...
>>738828026He put a literal tranny lion in the game. I do however think he doesn't give a fuck about things like nonbinaryism.
>>738807469this is why I haven't bought or played anything related to deltarune since it was revealed it'd be episodicno incentive to deliver in a reasonable timeframeno incentive to deliver something qualityno incentive to stay away from navelgazing and endless scope creepingit'll be shitand the ending will be shitand it won't have been worth the wait
>>738828350>>738828687I think you grossly overestimate the importance of the translation tantrum. Are you that pissed off over the latam shit that you want Deltarune to fail?
>>738829142All of these scenes with the Werewires people keep posting as if Toby Fox is a hyperpolitical person telling you to take a stand and be on the good side of history or whatever fall on deaf ears when Toby himself isn't very vocal about his politics.
>>738829054Nobody ever mentions in their theories how this describes a post genocide world 1 to 1. It's so strange.
>>738829017Toby would never work with rappers.
>>738829274It's fun to WAIT anon. It's a very unique kind of fun, call it Stockholm Syndrome, but sometimes, when a new chapter is out, I look back to moments like these and I think "Wow, how fun was it to suffer with my fellow deltachads...!"
Why would Kris's pronouns be neutral for the player's self insert benefit if the whole conceit of Deltarune is that you are a separate entity from Kris in a sometimes hostile relationship with them?I find it believable in Undertale because the fact you actually named Chara is genuinely a plot twist. But in Deltarune, this claim seems outright counterproductive to what the game is trying to do.
>>738829352Because humans are simply genderless, mysterious creatures in this series where we can't even hear them talk so Kris needs the gender neutral pronouns to appear alien
>>738829352because his pronouns are they/them
>>738829336There's never going to be another time like post-ch4 but pre-ch5 discussion. We're at the inflection point where there is the most balanced ratio of how much we know vs how much is yet to be revealed. This is the moment we have the most topics to reasonably speculate about.
>>738829352Even in undertale Chara's sprite was named "murderboi" Toby saw Chara as a boy.
>>738829190Really? You can't possibly think of ANY real world examples it could've been inspired by?
>>738819435I will never forgive the latiniggers for forcing Toby to go silentThey threw a fucking tantrum just because his game isn't going to be officially translated to a language he doesn't knowToby did not lose face with his community, for the "community" that he lost was never hisJust outsiders pretending to be something they aren'tWhich is normal for latamfags
>>738829352kris is very consistent on (you) learning as little as possible about herself and the people he cares about if he can help it actively blocking (you) from knowing if she's a boy or a girl is part of this, because (you) could use that information against him
>>738829553Yet in the Anniversary he called Chara a mommy
>>738829562I can think of many, and many fictional ones, and many historical ones. It is almost as if "the useful idiot being betrayed" is one of the oldest tropes in human culture.
>>738829565Toby said he would go silent before the "controversy" happened, it is unrelated.
>>738829352Kris could easily be a he/him and nothing about the story changes it's just that Toby is too autistic and now they/them humans are his trademark.
>>738829565its funny because the week prior to that they dragged GLITCH over the coals for not distributing The Amazing Digital Circus to places like Brazil (because they're massive piracy hotspots and also shitholes). It was a stunning display of entitlement and lack of self-awareness.
>>738829619Ch1 Susie would know if Kris usually by he or sheWe also know Ch1 Noelle has NOT been on active speaking terms with Kris because she gets weirded the fuck out if you talk to her at the end of the chapterYour theory sucks
>>738829690Didn't the glitch thing happen after the toby thing?
>>738829743maybe i'm mixing it up, it was pretty close together. still though, very telling trend
>>738828773Sigh, I wish people cared about lightner waifus, but Toby continuously refuses to make them focal characters. And when he did with Queen, she got overshadowed by everyone else.
>It's cold.>It's as if everything had been enveloped in a black wind...>The sky will run black with terror>And the land will crack with fear.>Then, her heart pounding...>The EARTH will draw her final breath.>* The world is spinning, spinning.>* It feels like a whirlwind.>* The air crackles with freedom.>* Everyone is together, but the wind blows coldly...>* You are filled with a certain power.>COLD PLACE>* (A draft blows, and you feel the cold night's presence.)>* (Still, this never bothered you. In fact...)>* (The wind blows fiercely, as if it fears the night itself.)>* (The final act draws near.)>* Suddenly, the north wind blew fiercely.>* Your heartbeat becomes twisted.>* Your vision narrows.>* ... The world revolves around you.>The ones who could write the next, the youth, the pen was lying there for them to pick up.>To make the next page.>...they never did.>But you, my dear? I see a story lit up in your eyes...>Burnin' bright... Burnin' black. Burnin' up everything.>* The white wind howls!>Miss, hold on dearly to that thought.>For the tides of fate are drawing close.>And soon, an ocean of ink shall wash across the pages.>But... there is one thing that can overwrite the dark.>A white pen, known as hope.
>>738829352Just accept the fact that tobby is a liberal literal faggotSimple as>>738829628Best retcon ever
>>738829287I've been saying for YEARS Deltarune is supposed to be a post-genocide sequel.>Let us erase this pointless world, and move on to the next.
>>738829816You're getting Carol and you're gonna like it
>>738829716noelle and kris aren't on speaking terms because kris started limiting how much they interacted in the pastthe fact that she tells kris that she's more than willing to help him with homework without even being prompted says that she has no issue with kristhe reason why she's confused about kris talking so much is because she lets it slip that she isn't very talkative normally, which was implied by susie earlier in the chapter, but unclear if that was just in that moment presumably kris blocks out any mention of pronous on his own, and we do know that kris actively can limit (you) from learning certain information
>>738829628I thought he was talking about himself
>>738829982>another GOD FUCKING DAMN LIGHTNER taking the spotlightyeah no thanks.this shit is like if both the fans AND the story of undertale itself decided to focus on 5 human characters instead of the monsters that make up the bulk of the gameplayand I say this as someone who loved carol's reveal
>>738829553That and Frisk were totally retcon to be girls in the anniversary stream THOUGH
>>738829650But even after that post he made joke tweets about chairs prior to the drama.
How good will the BURGERTRUCKKING remix be in Ch5
>>738829957I don't think it's a sequel because Toby explicitly said it isn't but despite all the schizo theories nobody ever mentions their weird similarity at all.
>>738824982>let some retard on the internet get the title of "official translation">trusting a localizer at allThere's a reason people are rooting for AI translations
>>738830430not very
>>738830152>this shit is like if both the fans AND the story of undertale itself decided to focus on 5 human characters instead of the monsters that make up the bulk of the gameplayIt's nothing like that. Another chapter focusing on a new Darkner over something actually happening in the fucking light world would be like if Undertale only started telling you about the Dreemurr family at all after you got a neutral ending.
>>738825689Yeah, even though homosexuality is a sin that's between the fag and the Lord
>>738818686If there's a single one of these>tee hee the game sure is taking a while to finish huh guys, maybe you'll see Papyrus in the next chapter loltype of jokes in Chapter 5 I'm going to skin that dumb dog myself. It's been 8 goddamn years Toby, this shit stopped being cute a long time ago
>>738830469Listen, when I say "sequel" here don't mean in the usual "another work chronologically set after the original entry", I mean as a follow-up, "another entry in the franchise".And specifically, I mean in a thematic sense. >You've done everything there was to be done in Undertale.>What next? Play the UT sequel game of course. And do everything there is to be done once again.
>>738830537The Dreemurrs get a little weird pacing with how they are revealed but at least the conflict was communicated from the start, and gets build up bit by bit alongside the episodic shenanigans you face, even in the true lab.The Holidays have Dess get two mentions in the opening chapter, without any proper allusions to the conflict around her, and them turns most of the story around her by the middle of the game.
>>738819435nobody cared about this shit but spics
>>738830080He was. That anon is just coping.
>>738826862The reason we "can't" kill darkners is because they run away before they dieThey can't run when they're frozen
Reminder that Undertale was the last chance for the Jews to peopagandize the goyim. Their spell stopped working around Deltarune.
>>738807469Non-japanese speakers got particularly uppity this last quarter, so the shunning has commenced.
>>738826774>>738827024I want Kris and Noelle to punch each other and then make out with their bloodied tongues
This is December's design.>blue clothes>black fur>red antlers
>>738830996We are on our last fucking legs
>>738827341Since when does caring about your creation mean unreasonable and stupid?
>>738830996i think it's very possible that dess wore a camouflage jacket remember that she was into milsurp and airsoft
>* You held the crystal up to your eye.>* For some strange reason, no matter how you look...>* You thought you saw thousands crying and raging over picrel
>>738831110She probably wore a lot of things. I mean, we saw the inside of her closet. She had more than one kind of outfit in there.
>>738831296>>738831110My penis literally cannot handle that Dess is both a military LARPer and a pop punker
>>738831415dess is also lesbian for bratty
>>738825718>and convinced himself Deltarune was his peakI'm not worriedDR isn't even as good UT yet despite having 4 times the development time
>>738829352Kris knows how much porn was made of them and we don't even know what Kris canonically has between their legsImagine how much more porn there would be if we knewKris doesn't want that to happen because Kris hates (You)
>>738830965Noelle WILL put her own ThornRing on Kris in Chapter 5 and then comfort them by licking the blood off their finger
>>738819101>>738819694It's meant to be weird that Christmas is in this setting.
>>738831646the ThornCockring...
>>738832180can't wait for ICE-E to be revealed to be nothing but a funny mascot
I wish one of the darkners in chapter 4 that ask all the weird questions also asked "Who's Christ?"
>>738832818He's gonana be a titan
>>738829142what's this supposed to be an allusion to in real life? honestly i thought it was an ACK joke at first
>In the place you see FRIEND for a moment (queen's basement) the music is called DIGITAL ROOTS>In the ch3 shelter game when you enter the shelter and go on your way to fight the entity that spawns FRIENDs the music is called BIT ROOTSWhat is ROOTS?
>>738832862https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSUg0w8iL2w
>>738833081considering the time it came out, probably blumpf
>>738813190Honestly I lost a lot of respect for Toby after he fucked with the rose scene repeatedly due to initial fan reaction.
>>738833081i think he's poking fun at enlightened centrists getting btfo whenever an extremist comes into power
>>738829142>>738833081Not every work of fiction is an allegory.
>>738828026if he doesn't support it, he should call it out. his silence is consent.>Japanese humor and sensibilitiesdon't care
>>738833081Fell For It Again Award
>>738833171https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G8DcaGegM0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMfro9XfU1whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJE21c--duY
>>738833171It's the primordial state of the dark world.Every Dark World needs to be manually constructed into the state it's in when the FUCK gang eventually arrives there.But in Chapter 3, you get to see that this is split up into a sort of main area- The glitz and glamor. Intentional theming. But there are still dusty, dark, "backstage" areas that are more like the space underneath a couch than part of the actual level.You also see this in Chapter 2. And I think the most interesting thing is that you actually see a physical example of why it's called roots- Because for some reason, in a digital-themed world, there are plant roots infesting the deactivated Megaton EX body you find.
>>738834007interestingly there's also an old city down there, in the background of the spamton neo fight
>>738834007>It's the primordial state of the dark world.That's the "Purple Cliffs" though
>>738833171what the fuck do you think a root is?
I just unboughted Undertale and Deltarune from my Steam account.Fuck Toby Fox and his shit theory game.
>>738807469>>738807848
>>738834616I just unboughted YOU.
>>738829130Drake is a Jew, just like Robert.
>>738834430It is called, in Chapter 3, "The couch cliffs", and then immediately described as "the purple worlds". Which is described as "how it was before this was built on top". So I guess you're right.Either way I guess it's an indicator that something has been "covered" and replaced. Because for Chapter 2, it's Spamtonland. Which you also see above ground in the form of an incomplete amusement park. For Chapter 3 it's Mantle, which was replaced by the game Tenna made. Which is still similar to the meaning of roots as, "This is how it originally was."Which makes me wonder how Kris's house fits into it. Since it shows up in the "Roots" part of the prophecy images. Given the way the label of roots has been used already, it seems a little confusing to say Kris's home has been replaced somehow.
>>738833957Just got to that part in Undertale. Did I fuck up by saying no?
>>738835581yes
>>738835581NahIt doesn't matter either way
>>738835581You'll know if a dialogue option is important. The game doesn't sneak up on you like that with important shit.
>>738835672cool
>>738833171I hope "Friend" lives up to the hype, as far as I undertand, friend is the one pulling The Knight's strings
>>738835940we have zero idea what friend even isat best there's an implication it has something to do with eram and maybe spamton, not the knight
>>738828026>>738833479>>738829142Is this peak Toby Engine?
unironically the spics won because they managed to have toby's main portrayal (outside of deltarune fans that love him) be a fucking jew
>>738836467>Spics won because (shit only spics will care about)Sure.
>>738836467Nobody cares about what spics are seething at on their spic social media
>>738807469The best thing to do when developing a product with a fanbase like this is to ignore them completely and block off all social media. You don’t want or need to engage with these lunatics in any way whatsoever because the game will sell regardless. Just put your head down and let the paint chip eaters sperg out in their little corners of the internet.
>>738807469Test
>>738829352Kris is a boy, Toby just has a lot of faggot friends and wants to please them
>>738836527>>738836529>the only people that dont like toby/deltarune are spicstoby being an Israeli obsessed with japan is simply his default portrayal, spicseethe or no
>>738836876>toby being an Israeli ... is simply his default portrayal, No. He is a japanophile of course, but so what
>>738836876Nobody said that.It's simply that spics are the only ones that will call Toby a jew and continue to do so despite it not being true.You can go as far as saying he's spiritually a jew, but when they depict him as pure star of David small hat kike they're just being whiny little fags.
>>738807848more like most of the development team has moved on from deltarune lol
>>738837038>You can go as far as saying he's spiritually a jew,No we can't. A jew would have let (((localizers))) all over the world do whatever they wanted as long as he got a slice of the pie.
latinx are seething because he loves japan but doesn't give a shit about latinx shitholesit's almost as if japanese people were the ones who made the games that inspired him to become one of the most recognized indie devs of all time. And learning japan allowed him to meet them and interact with them, even getting hired to compose music for the biggest media franchiseWhat would he get from giving a shit about tacospeak? buying coke from cartels and getting young prostitutes for cents?
>>738837340latinx are massively entitled because the us caters to and glorifies their favela culture toby doesn't give a shit about them so they had a meltdown because they're so used to getting their way
remember the Gooner Hand?
>>738837571They're entitled because they're parasites with a beggar culture, just like indiansThey're uncapable of creating anything of value, so they can't understand the effort of creating things, let alone the idea of recognizing and paying someone else's workSo they just beg and make demands hoping civilized people will pity them
deltarune if it had good art direction
>>738837576that had the unfortunate effect of making people think kris is a gooner instead of just maybe having a replacement hand
>>738837340>game about positivity, love and friendship>falls in love with one of the most unloving, corporate-bootlicking, birthrate-lowering countries on earthwhat causes this utter retardation?
>>738837847I am very sure Kris is a mega gooner. He is exactly the type.
Both sides handled it poorly, Latin America shouldn't have acted as though they deserve an official translation and Toby shouldn't have said anything if he had already decided he wasn't going to do it.
>>738837931Well, for one, it wasn't about "positivity, love, and friendship" so much as how those feelings (and others) can come from games.
>>738837931His games are so heavily inspired by jrpgs, and specifically the Mother games, that I think it walks the line of plagiarism in a few instances. Of course he loves the county that produced them.
>>738837576I'm still caught up on the fact that Dess's guitar pick is some relic that Kris explicitly tried to hide. Like, he could have left it in some dusty back corner nobody would ever find- But he made sure to put it in a secret compartment behind a maze- Which, is kind of bizarre, since you can just skip the entire "maze" portion of it. And the fact that it seems to radiate a pure "REALITY" aura that erased Kris's hand when he tried to catch it.It's like how the glass shards let you see some kind of reality, but it actually exerted some kind of weird force on everything.
>>738838073I seen people dunk on Toby's statement to promote their own indie games.
>>738837931>implying Undertale was about any of thatUT is existentialist and meta-narrative to the max. You could say that the pacifist route is thematically about the power of the will and friendship but it’s pretty clear the Genocide route was where Toby really wanted to explore his more personal, more sensible, most profound ideas. The game is constantly filling you with this sense of dread through its score on the Geno route, purposefully being a grindy shitfest to complete so you really ask yourself “Was it worth it to kill some time?”. And it all masterfully boils down in the Sans fight which has no doubt gone down as one of the most incredible most cathartic conclusion to an RPG of all time.
>>738837931>work bad>not having kids badlmao latinx really can't stop proving the stereotypes right
>>738830996I think there is a fan dess like that already
>>738839239why the fuck do i always get the most schizo insults in replies, i just ask normal-ass questions
>>738839512You got the answer already in the post you're replying to, at least try learning english before coming here
>>738839512Its a shit thread almost every reply is shit
>>738819101>Deltarune has "Christmas", so Jesus Christ was real>Deltarune has "Teddy Bears" which were named after Teddy Roosevelt, so Roosevelt was realDeepest! Lore!
>how could a game developer love the country that produced the best games but hate a country where everyone pirates games?we're gonna need all spanish speakers to combine their brainpower and figure this out
>>738807469Why do you tards torture yourselves by constantly waiting? Just stop thinking about Deltarune and do something else until the next chapter drops.
>>738839923/thread/boardeventhough at least those posting and getting pics do get something from the constant back and forth
>>738839762はい
>>738825819I managed to learn the language when I was 8 just through SA1 and 2. You are weak and raped and Toby should be far more explicitly racist against Latinx sissies like you.
>>738836467>>738836876>Anime is Epstein Israel diddy blood shit wey Japon es cagada now let me vote for Claudia SheinbaumOnly 0 IQ Latinxes think like this.
>>738826774I've always loved this image set and the ambiguity in Kris' words especially "HER". Is he talking about Carol the distant ice queen mayor? Maybe he's talking about Dess reminding Noelle of the negative traits she had to get under Noelle's skin.
How can people call Toby Israeli/Jew when Undertale & Deltarune aren't even translated to Hebrew?
>>738836467That's just delusional. Toby's portrayal by latams rely on the Annoying Dog avatar to make it clear it's even him. The normies who are into Deltarune would see the average Toby Jew meme and assume that's the exception.Real fans know his true avatar is FRIEND
i saw this image blowing up on twitter a few days agopeople actually think toby's been kidnapped or something lmaoand you know it's still funny that his last bluesky post was related to the LATAM drama so in other words there is a possibility the LATAM kidnapped toby themselves just saying(that or he just really doesn't wanna spoil chapter 5)
>>738841380>(that or he just really doesn't wanna spoil chapter 5)that and he got realized he got too comfortable with his online presence these past couple of years. the latam drama definitely reminded him to stick by his original decision to keep his internet presence to the bare minimum.
>>738841380twitter really is just like 4Chan where i can meme something into existence with enough shitposting huh
>>738829565>>738829690Spics are based for trolling Toby about being a faggot doe
Probably the Chapter 5 announcement will happen at the Xbox event with the launch of the game in that console.
>>738842350>release next chapter on rapidly dying console since people's interest in Deltarune is rapidly dying over timeit's poetic, really.
>>738809564He will take on the mantle of KING OF ERO GAMES and make Nude Alert.
>>738842350Yeah that’s exactly what I’ve been thinking considering Toby still hasn’t released deltarune on Xbox yetThe Xbox fans are probably praying that deltarune comes to Xbox with chapter 5 in fact (well 1 of them definitely)
>>738843232Actually now that I think about it I’ve never really seen anyone on twitter talk about this really considering all they bet on are Nintendo directs
>>738843232If Toby releases the game on Xbox One, I will actually buy the game full price yet againDon't mind going through the whole thing like 3rd time
>>738819435Spics don't deserve anything nice.
My beautiful wife that I adore.
>>738842350Nips dont care about Xbox so he doesn’t care either
>>738826774>rapid slap bass intensifies
this thread is low energy 20somethings
>>738830591There was a theory called the oblivion theory that followed up this exact logic but it got completely BTFO by Chapters 3 and 4 and its creator became a FRIENDfag.
>>738839923I have nothing better to do
>>738829690It worked though, they did get theater releases in brazil after that.
>>738847473But Xbox care and they will pay Toby for it, imagine paying for a port of a gamemaker game.
>>738847473If he doesn’t care then why is Undertale on Xbox?
>>738830080He wasn't, that anon was speaking hard facts.
>>738846931This but with the other two humans.
It's a little sad how we became much less schizophrenic after 3 & 4 dropped.
>>738837107>paid to sit around and do nothing for weeks at a time while Toby runs "quality assurance" (larps as japanese apart of another collab or rewrites plot/character dialogue repeatedly)I couldn't see them leaving such an easy gig
>>738849510This but with the other human.
>>738807469I thought Delta rune released and is finished? Is his game still not fucking done?
>>738849987Lol no. There's at least 3 chapters left.
>>738842350Toby doesn't care about the Xbox. He's a tendie.
>>738825440Her sister's name was December Holiday. She's likely been researching online for any information about her missing sister. Queen just misinterpreted it and though Noelle really really likes Christmas.
>>738849987he's taking too long
>>738837340Toby cannot be a wholesome polite whimsical internet dog who likes everyone the same and a japanese supremacist simultaneously. His current persona exists in contradiction.
Bro, how are we going to survive another 3 months with no news? I'm fucking dying over here
>>738830152>this shit is like if both the fans AND the story of undertale itself decided to focus on 5 human characters instead of the monsters that make up the bulk of the gameplayThis is a good thing THOUGH.
>>738831435Dess just knew both Asriel and Kris are horny for lizards.
>>738833081Whatever political figure you dislike.
>>738833171The underground of Hometown which is a town spanning Dark World.
>>738835581No, Sans says the same thing no matter what. I can't think of any important dialogue choices in Undertale in general honestly.
>>738835995FRIEND and the Knight have the same laugh but that's their only canon connection.
>>738840876t. epstein's yurincel disciple
Looking back, LATAM expecting Toby to fix their fucking entire barbaric unreliable postal system was hilarious.
are you guys furries in the sense you want to have sex with anthros
why does Toby hate black Ralsei? I want my mystery nigga back
In all seriousness, how is this thing actually going to be beaten in the game? It already surpasses everything below Omega Flowey in terms of in-universe power.
>>738836467That was already the case by Tobyhaters, they're obsessed with thinking he's a jew, all it does is proving that antisemitism became normalfag tier recently.
>>738854426With the classic videogame power of "Boss is less powerful the second time you fight it".
>>738854472>That was already the case by TobyhatersMaybe here, not widespread on twitter with a bunch of fanart. The only image i've seen portraying Toby as a jew, in the past decade, is the Austin vs. Toby one, and even then, the poster was promptly BTFO'd.
>>738837931Nippon makes most of the "power of friendship" games. Of course he's going to love them, the ending of Undertale is basically like one of an anime with the MC getting superpowerful thanks to love.
>>738854426Not really. The Fun Gang manages to take out a good chunk of its health in the chapter 3 fight and they're only getting stronger with time.
>>738826774>>738841023We need to know when this was made exactly but for a moment I thought the her was referring to Chara unironically.
>>738856068The Knight was holding back to stall us until Undyne arrived. Once Kris gives the signal, it stops fucking around and insta-downs the party.
>>738841023>>738856221its obviously dess retard
>>738855903I meant here, yes. Like I said it only means antisemitism is normalfag tier edge nowadays.
>>738856635Carol makes more sense than Dess, Noelle loves her sister.
>>738856784chalk it up to bad characterization then
>>738839923Because we love waiting and posting the same things over and over.>>738841380The dog is simply sleeping and will wake up in a few months.>>738851606You learn to deal with the WAIT and let it become part of you.
I'm tired of WAITing bros
>>738857017You did it last year, you're gonna do it this year
>>738857039These threads have just been particularly stale recently, which is crazy because it's been 3 months, 3 months without a single piece of news on Chapter 5, and yet these threads always end up reaching bump limit and being the fastest on the board.Now imagine how crazy it'll be when Chapter 5 comes out, /v/ is gonna be nothing but DT for a week.
>>738819101… because Toby wanted to make a bunch of Christmas jokes with the holidays and it’s hard to do that with Not!Christmas. They’re not even Christian but apart of some weird angel cult so that raises more questions
why does nobody talk about this scene>Toriel doesn't want to even utter Carol's name>Or Rudy is distancing himself from Carol>implying Carol is supporting his private investigation
>>738857017You must learn to enjoy the WAIT. It must became part of your nature. >>738857186Yeah, it's kinda crazy since we've literally talked about the same things nonstop but yet there's somehow daily threads still.
>>738856068I wouldn't call 20% of its health a big chunk
>>738857540You're part of the problem, avatarfag
>>738857656>slightly saucy doeOr dragon, or a cloud, or tasque manager
>>738857543It's a decent chunk for some noobs who weren't really taking it seriously at that point.
>>738857608>>738857656It's been awhile since you showed up, schizo shartyfag. I thought you were filtering all images with human characters.
>le inexistent shartyfag bogeyman That doesn't exist, what does exist and what we do see is a blatant avatarfag
>>738857716>Every character is okay to post except for humans. If you post humans you're my eternal thread nemesis boogeymanI still don't get your mental illness.
>>738857967You already used a literal signature to tell everyone you exist and it's you. You are the one who acts like a shartyfag towards anything human in these games.https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/737735059/#q737826009
>>738823670It’s been several months with no new content. Even if you are excited what’s there’s to talk after all these threads “man ain’t it wacky how kris raped noelle” “man I can’t stop getting uncontrollable erections when ever i see children” “guys trust me this thread I’ll definitely prove my theory is correct”. People are here due to autism and habit not because anything interesting is happening
>>738858004nothing wrong with posting humans, but avatarfagging while adding nothing to the discussion and using it as a cover to show everyone how much of a pedophilic retard you are is just low-quality horseshit.
>>738858160>loli is le badShartyfag schizo... plus you never say anything when loli Susie or Noelle are posted so it is indeed about humans, not avatarfagging or being a "pedo"
>>738858247>n-no uconcession accepted
>>738857512Toriel is such a bitch for this. Rudy goes out of his way to get out while terribly sick, and Toriel doesn't even give him any courtesy. Refuses to call his wife "Carol" and even splashes him with water for a joke. What the hell is wrong with her?
>nearly day old threadDamn. Anything interesting happening while I was gone
>>738858293YWNBAJ or get these threads to /vg/. Undertale won, you lost.
>>738858378You don't have to come begging for my attention, I already accepted your concession
>>738837931>falls in love with one of the most unloving, corporate-bootlicking, birthrate-lowering countries on earthYou’ve just described every single developed nation
>>738854426The same way Frisk beat Asriel. Via determination and the power of love. Although I'm almost certain she isn't going to be the final boss anyways. Toby never lets us fight them before the endgame
>>738858338Toriel is a bitch in general
>>738856068And then it immediately oneshots the entire party right after that, a feat that only Omega Flowey claimed for years in the UTDR universe until Deltarune Chapter 3. Dealt 4 DIGITS of damage to Tenna, something we've only seen elsewhere with a lvl 1 Frisk doing betrayal kills. It was humoring the Fun Gang. I'm not sure how The Knight gets taken down in a fight without a special "Kills The Roaring Knight" device or if it sandbags.
>738858404This is ironic because you always bark wherever someone posts a human lol
>>738857186Banny Janny is gonna have quite the handful on his hands
>>738858697>>738858404>>738858378>>738858293>>738858247can you morons shut up and stop being more annoying than you already are>>738858340absolutely fucking nothing. we're not getting a newsletter this month.
>>738858340No. Although threads in general are lasting around a day now.
>>738858827It's literally just one schizo, we had a few threads without him so I was trolling him for a bit.
>>738857512My ultimate theory is that Toriel is covered for Kris (but isn't in on any of kris's plans, she merely covered for kris's involvement on what happened to dess)
>>738858925I don't appreciate the avatarfagging either
>>738858972Good thing it isn't avatarfagging to post non-furry characters.
>>738859038It's textbook avatarfagging tho
>>738859076Maybe you can try to apply to be a janny to get people banned, then. But until them it isn't.
>>738857512It's simple. Toriel dislikes Carol because she incentives Asgore’s schizophrenia and thus doesn't want to say her name.
>>738858925Then take that shit to discord and stop being a gay faggot trying to defend imaginary honor bloating the thread with bullshit>>738858972and you need to learn how to filter twitter screencaps you complete homosexual
thoughts on the theory that the fountains you see in the background of some dark world areas that don't seem to align with the location of that dark world's fountain are actually the shelter DW viewed from a distance, and that the shelter DW is also the fountain that "appeared" in Ralsei's ch1 exposition?
>>738858340our singular humanfag and our singular anti-humanfag are fighting... again. i mean what did you expect short of us getting a new drawfag or the fabled newsletter dropping its just going to be more of the same until chapter 5 happens
>>738854426It won't be "beaten"It will be "PURIFIED"
>>738859408There's no hard evidence of that which sticks out to me. The whole "Darkners petrify in worlds they don't belong in" falls flat if the Shelter dark world and whatever other dark world takes place in the same space.
>>738859570maybe we'll "beat" it on weird route
>>738859351I wasn't really defending le honor, just making fun of him but I will just ignore him then. He already seems to have got nuked.>>738859443(You) are a self-admitted humanfag too.
>>738842350didn't undertale on xbox get removed from sale for some reason?
>>738854426toby doesn't give a shit about power levels, you should have realised this by now
>>738859408Bullshit. It's just Toby being inconsistent as always.
>>738809564i'd honestly prefer toby to just quit game development if his next game is just going to be regular indie garbage. not to say deltarune is that, but if he doesn't have any ideas, he should just stop.
>>738851606>He thinks it will only be 3 monthsDELTARUNEISWAITING
>>738858671Again, it will be beaten like Asriel us, we will suddenly get a burst of determination and become stronger than it and beat it with the power of love and friendship and light >>738859570. Plus the party is getting stronger by the game so it's less of an asspull as Frisk in LV 1 tanking GOHD Asriel and refusing to die.
a gacha thread died for this
>>738859934This is canon.
>>738858378The avatarfag is blatantly a janny's pet, anon.
>>738859123>ITS NOT AVATARFAGGING BECAUSE I SAY SOheard it all before, retard
>>738857512Toriel doesn't like Carol because she's enabling Asgore's delusional behavior while financially exploiting him, and they probably never really got along in general.Rudy makes a token effort to stick up for his wife because she's his wife, and seems supportive of Asgore's delusional investigation because of course he would be. Toriel doesn't hold it against him because she sympathizes with him and they both know he's not in charge here.>>738858338They're friends, retard. Rudy is almost as close to Toriel as he is to Asgore. Tenna's flashback showed he kept visiting her and the kids even after the divorce, he was the last to stop coming.
>>738848990>A 6 year old late port that didn't come until after he started working on Deltarune is "caring"delusional
>>738857543Well in a franchise built on the idea that a 1% chance of victory equals a 100% chance given enough retries, 20% is a lot.
>>738842350lol
>>738859875>he thinks the knight is the final bosslollmao
>>738860695No, I don't. I said it in another post but I'm very certain the Knight isn't the final boss at all.
>>738860050>>738860116>ban evasion
>>738860136honestly, toriel turns out to be such a shitty woman and i hate how she threats asgore. just think of this>be asgore>lose job of a police chief in some nonsensical event that probably includes daughter of family your family is (STILL IS) friends with>holidays never turned on you, instead offering you help and support>MEANWHILE>YOUR WIFE DIVORCED YOU>TOOK THE KIDS>TOOK THE HOUSE>MAKES THE MOST BITCH-CUNT FACES LIKE SHE'S ON TURBO PERIODS EACH TIME YOU GET MENTIONED>GETS BONED BY A SKELETON FROM ANOTHER GAME>>738858671DESEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERVED
>>738861047Toriel does look worse but I will still reserve my judgement to when we get to hear the full story of why the divorce happened.
>>738860050Calm to fuck down mate. the biggest sin the humanfag has committed is being cringe with his fuck buddies and in that regard you have far surpassed him in the obnoxious department while also giving said humanbros an excuse to play the victim. Unironically go outside
>>738809564He's gonna be 40-something by the time the game is done and he's already sitting on a giant pile of money. I could see him just doing collabs and composing gigs for the rest of his life.
>>738861047Toriel has not made a clean case for herself but I do want to see what happened with Asgore and the police thing from a closer PoV. Depending on what went down it could've been an understandable oopsie or a massive fuck up like locking Dess inside the Shelter
>>738813190past traumatoby met epstein through hussie
>>738861412Arguing with him is pointless, I just assume he says humanfags are janny pets because he gets constantly nuked while they don't.
>>738861412>>738861597>samefagging>>738861046I'm not the retard that got nuked. Report me if you wish
>>738861047Honestly wouldent put it pass Toriel being the main issue for everything related to dess. I imagine dess was a holigan to the point it started pissing Toriel off that Asgore did nothing to them as the cheif of police because they were the mayors daugter. And mainly going off the code fuckery in the mantel game,Toriel likely fucked over Dess and then let Asgore handle the blame.
>>738861047The whole town thinks Asgore is crazy, probably because he saw some supernatural bullshit with whatever happened to Dess but he couldn't prove it to anyone.It doesn't seem like the Holidays or anyone else personally blames Asgore for what happened to Dess, but he lost credibility in the eyes of the town. Carol was presumably still Mayor at the time and she would have been the one to fire him.It's not like Toriel just kicked him out either, it was clearly a process with the family not being able to survive the aftermath of Asgore losing his job and Kris being traumatized.Asgore is more of a victim of circumstance this time, but even now:>* This time for sure... Tori will finally see.>* ... see what really happened.>* ... that I just wanted to... protect everyone..."I just wanted to protect everyone" means "I did SOMETHING and fucked up big time, but I need people to understand WHY I did it"We'll see what happens in Chapter 5
I loved Undertale but for some reason I have zero interest in whatever Deltarune is
>>738807469He's busy learning Portuguese to really fuck with the spics
>>738862509>it's not Portuguese, but EsperantoImagine the seethe.
>>738849939Wow that's so very based and humanpilled. Farm asthetic is underrated.
>>738862469Probably because it's an episodic game that's still unfinished unlike Undertale.
>>738862509But half of the people complaining were also huezillians.
>>738862281I really do wonder what the fuck Asgore even did that would "protect everyone" when nobody seems to even give a shit about him.
>>738859786It's actually going to come out this May
>>738807469He's keeping his mouth shut for a while because he's hoping people forget about the localization thing since it exposed his greatest character flaw to the world. There's still fuckers talking about it on twitter so idk if that will work.
>>738866526fuck off spic
>>738849749>paid to sit around and do nothing for weeksYour career stagnates, your skills as programmer/artist stagnate... but of course to worthless neet who earns 0 a month it must be paradise.
>>738859786This anon knows ball.>>738866416This anon is completely delusional.
>>738866596I'm just describing the actual situation. I thought it had blown over too but I was looking through undertale/deltarune twitter yesterday and it's still being actively discussed and memed about.
>>738859570>concept stolen from OFFfuck off, toby. You ruined dedan's theme, now you also want to rob OFF from its gimmick.
>>738866146My money is on "saved Kris from the Shelter and sealed the door behind them, not realizing Dess was still in there"
>>738867021This feels unlikely because it would mostly just be an accident that Asgore would regret, not something he still feels strongly about today.
Tranny game for trannies
Rape game for rapists.
