FACT: Shmups are one of the only game genres that are for people with jobs>respects your time (most seesions would be 30-45min MAX)>non-stop action>dense gameplay
>>738819782Too hard
>wagecuck grinds like a monkey even playing games
>>738819782This. I'm employed and these games are most of what I play on weekdays. You can boot them up for an hour and just play, no bullshit.
>>738820254good players dont need to grind though
Where's the evangelion shmup?
I just got the batrider advanced 1cc with the special extend strat! If the thread is still alive in a bit I'll post it and I have a bit to say about how I got it under a week.
Alright the avatarfag is here. Prepare for 300 posts of "organic" conversations about scoring systems and ship types.
>>738819782Rhythm games are much better for that
Why spend time practicing when you can just watch the lunatic 1cc, say, "dam, that looks easy. I bet I could do that". Proceed to tell everyone you know how good you are at shmups, and never, ever play one. That's what I do.
>>738822637OP is the other resident tranny so it was inevitable.
>>738822865I just parrot Jaimers' opinion from his 1cc video to pretend like I'm cultured
>>738823141Your schizo tranny girlfriend moved back to spamming threads on /vr/, can you go back
>>738823141okay I won't post touhou. This is my wife Seiun Sky. She's a horse.
>>738822723
>>738823243No the mods there hate me ;-;
What kind of person goes to an arcade and walks past all the fun stuff like House of the Dead to play some wierd cartoon shooting game full of robots and shit?
"The Treasure game history is a rich tapestry. But, since we're all gonna die, there's one more secret I feel I have to share with you: I did not care for Radiant Silvergun.""What?""Did not care for Radiant Silvergun.""How can you even say that, Anon?""Didn't like it.""Anon, it's like the perfect game!""This is what everyone always said. Whenever they say...""Hiroshi Iuchi, Hitoshi Sakimoto, I mean, you never see, Studio Gonzo!""Fine. Fine. Fine team, did not like the game.""Why not?""Did not... Couldn't get into it.""What didn't you like about it?""It insists upon itself.""What?""It insists upon itself.""What does that even mean?""Because it has a valid point to make, it's insisted!""It takes forever memorizing the scoring route; you spend like six and a half hours on Stage 3... You know, I can't get through, I've never even finished the game. I've never seen the ending.""You've never seen the ending?!""How can you say you don't like it if you haven't even given it a chance?""I agree. It's not really fair.""It's outrageous.""I have tried on three separate occasions to get through it, and I get to Stage 5.""Yeah, it's a great stage. I love that stage.""I have no idea what they're talking about. It's like they're speaking a different lang... You know, that's where I lose interest in it.""You know what, Anon...""They're speaking Japanese!""The language they're speaking is a language of subtlety; something you don't understand.""I love Cotton Boomerang. That is my answer to that statement.""Exactly.""Well, there you go.""Whatever.""I like that game too."
>>738823398No one, that's why most STG devs didn't survive past the 90's, lmao
>>738819782i think shmups are the best & most pure genre but let's be real, you're going to be dedicating a lot of time to actually learn one, even if one play on its own isn't that long.
>>738823640light gun games take more skill than shmups
>>738823398My pizza place had HotD1 and Area 51 Site 4 and the hobby place nearby had Time Crisis 3. Good fucking times.
>>738823879Area 51 is my fucking jam. Played it co op on ps1 for fucking weeks as a kid
>>738823879the zombie minigame in Site 4 gave me nightmares as a kid
Don't you mean fighting games?
>>738824092We have Tekken 3 and street fighter 2 turbo on snes and ps1. I'm not paying for that.
>>738823490>we have silvergun and dodonpachi on saturn. I'm not paying for that.
>>738824072Is that the one where they walked toward you and you'd shoot them back and their limbs fell off?The hospital one scared me the most. Imagine helplessly laying on a carrier in the middle of a room while alien slugs jumped into your chest and you turned into a bloody sack of flesh.
How the FUCK do you even make money off a shmup if everyone keeps beating it with a single quarter??
>>738824391If you claim to be good at shmups and can't figure out fightan games that's a genuine skill issue my guy
>>738820168just play, you'll get better.
>>738819782Why not just play some flash game on newgrounds or some shit? They'll have nearly the same amount of content and depth as your shmups.
>>738824695Just play undertale.
>>738824510Anon "figuring them out" is not the problem. They're easy to figure out, the brownesf favela monkey can. The problem is hundreds, if not thousands are also "figuring them out" and are competing with you to be on top. It's a constant struggle to stay on top of the meta, because if you don't, you will eat shit and fall down the ladder. That's when video games become a second job, and maybe that works for the lazy neets on 4chan and other shitholes, but for people with actual jobs, it's far too much. I actually can't think of another task that is physically and mentally more stressful and taxing than being good at fighting games. Besides, there are only a handful of good fighting games, and I've already moved on from them. You should to.
>>738824817just say you're a casual.
Armed Police Batrider Advanced 1cchttps://youtu.be/qTbELs6hwpEAs said before I used the special extend strategy here. I think it's easier to chain medals into stage 4 than it is to just ignore scoring and fight Discharge raw. You don't really need to worry about rank in this game unless you're vacuuming up power ups for no reason or fighting extra bosses. Medaling isn't very hard once you get used to the idea that a medal can drop off the screen as long as all of them don't drop at once, the chain restores to the highest value medal you last picked up even if it resets. The biggest issue in this game is the bullets are pretty much fucking invisible and enemies with happily throw them out right in your face, so I pretty much try to keep tapping around constantly since everything is aimed. When you're labbing the stages pay attention to where ground enemies are spitting out bullets and try to go underneath or above those areas instead of horizontally because it's really easy to just slam into a bullet that get thrown right into your face. Shorty is great for survival because she eliminates bosses so damn fast compared to everyone else, and her powerful homing shots let you do stuff like sit on top of tanks and sealing them in stage 6 while busting turrets. I used the B type ship because the extra speed helps clutch out medals in bad situations, C is fine too but I don't really think the extra shot damage makes any difference. Normally Discharge is a huge wall but I find him pretty easy with this set up. I've played this game on the past and went into it kinda feeling like I wouldnt like it anymore, but routing out the medaling actually made it a lot of fun. If I went back to this I'd like to try Carpet for scoring or maybe a team and try to tackle extra bosses, but obviously not a good idea for a survival clear.Also as a weird aside, spending some time on psikyo games was surprisingly helpful. I dunno, make of that what you will.Insane falseflagging.
>>738824817RTS is the most mentally taxing genre and rhythm games are the most physically taxing
I've started to play some of the shmups I've had saved in my library, got some from some anon recommendations because I'm fairly blind.I have little to no experience with shmups, unless you count old space invaders. Tried ZeroRanger earlier, furthest I got was boss of stage 2. I'll keep trying.
>>738819782Yes, that is the basis for arcade games.https://youtu.be/HLotRWBw5aE
>>738825104they're connected, not mutually exclusive. in this case rts needs insane decision-making and reflexes while rhythm games is pure execution, both need insane effort and practice
>>738825307Play Crimzon, skip novice mode.
>>738819782I've been playing stage 2 of Mushihimesama. I'm getting better at it, but it feels like the bullets are faster than they should. Playing on a Deck OLED.
>>738825501but that sounds hard for a beginner...
>>738819782Is DFK's Ketsui mode fun? I have barely played DFK
>>738825620Why do you ask instead of trying it?
>>738825679I'm a resident schizo and the thread must reach bump limit
>>738825679Just curious on peoples thoughts on it and DFK in general, I could never get into it compared to other DDP games
>>738824896No one cares for savescummed runs or your AI essay
>>738819782Everyone who doesn't play shmups is enjoying their life, and you come in wanting to make things harder for them? What do you get out of spreading misery?>bro you gotta play Donpachi it's so good broActually, I Don'tpachi
>>738825307Ikaruga has great box art
>>738825620It's fun. The ketsui ship is pretty overpowered though, but that makes it fun. >>738825679Anon is always charming and insightful when he's not shitposting.
>>738825746I like the shmup schizos. You guys talk about the games. Action game schizos are insufferable, and FF schizos are vile.
>>738824896I read all that, and I'm watching your run. Where did you get the gadgets for Batrider? It looks like the M2 ports. Love Battle Garegga, so this is up my alley. What are your thoughts on Ibara?
>>738826518t. shmup schizo talking about music and box art and graphics
The trannies got unbanned
>>738825562Wait till you get to stage 3, that's the real ballbuster. The hard part of stage 2 for me was always the last boss. It's also worth just speed killing the mid boss with a bomb
>>738826634>Where did you get the gadgets for Batrider?Someone here linked me this sitehttps://www.gurt.live/batrider-1cc-guideI had issues getting other versions of the overlay to work properly, but this one worked fine other than an error message you can ignore.>What are your thoughts on Ibara?Dunno, never really played it and don't know much about it.
>>738825768DFK is good, schizos just get mad because of autobombing
>>738826518I agree. Touhou players also display the most depth in knowledge and skill.
>>738826996many are saying this.
>>738825562You'll be dodging stuff in stage 2 without even thinking about it by next week. I would play on something with a bigger screen than a deck tho.
>>738826826>The hard part of stage 2 for me was always the last boss. It's also worth just speed killing the mid boss with a bombI'm at a point where it's 50/50 as to whether I lose a life at the stage 2 end boss. But I'd like to reach a point where I can consistenly kill him without losing a life.I'm able to comfortably dodge his right-to-left bullet sweep. I'm able to clear the mid-boss without bombing.
>>738826996>1 missWhat did you die on
>>738827315Not my run, but he apparently died on Remilia's last non with the aimed bubbles.
>>738826996>best nu/v/ shmup player is some random troonhou guyummm bros, how do we cope with this?
>>738827609all roads lead back to to*ho*
2hu players have an entire board but they just HAVE to post in the shmup threads
>>738828108that board is almost entirely 3dpd shit and vtubers (3dpd shit with a filter)
>instead of continuing to reply to himself about "playing" shmups the tranny instantly seethes
>>738823771
>>738828226not everyone that you disagree with is the same person. if you think only an avatarfag thinks that touhou games aren't well-made like the actual professionally made ones then you are stupid. it's like a ryukishi07 vn and a nitroplus one
>>738827275Thanks, it feels easier with S-Power than W-Power. Like Mushi's about getting into the gaps between bullets instead of reacting to the bullets themselves, and the extra speed makes it easier to get to those gaps.
>>738823398>house of the deadthe new one is expensive and not as good
>>738829259I just want the last game to be released where we see Thornton as the Devil.
>>738829013>Like Mushi's about getting into the gaps between bulletsPerfect mindset to have. Make sure you have super shot set up.
Ketsui is way too hard for someone with a job (me)i 1ccd 1ALL but even attempting the get into the 2nd loop is a nightmare
>>738829416no>>738829447stop samefagging tranny
>>738829492wtf man, why do i always get called a tranny and samefag in these threads? i just wrote that because of OP is talking about people with jobs
>>738829492Based, now give me a kiss dear
>>738829584Touhou poster throwing a tantrum trying to derail all discussion.
>>738829742>everyone who doesn't like me is a 2poo poster
these threads are so fucking gay
>>738820317Great Co op with your gf/bf too.
>>738825562Last week I 1cc mushihimesama for the first time ever. Which means I've now 1cc two shmups, it and ikaruga.>>738825307When you try out dodonpachi start with 1.5 to get used to the game. But once you're used to it switch to black label. I recently did that with my partner and black label is so much more fun than the base game. It's fucking amazing.
>>738829870Haven't you been stalking this dude for literal months claiming they couldn't "shitclear batrider on NORMAL"? What went wrong here lol
>>738830272will do. It's very confusing starting these shmups, especially ones that have years of work on them, and there's so many different modes and choices to pick between, even ship types and whatnot.
>>738830272>>738830326KEK nice samefag>>738830289no
>>738830326I think espaluga 2 and esp ra de Psi are caves most complicated shmups. They're very fun, especially esp ra de, but definitely complicated. I love most of espaluga 2, especially that cool ass sound effect you get at every stage clear, but I hate the final part of the final boss. It's awful and takes forever.
>>738829492>>738829870>>738830432I can't even hate on this schizo. This schizo is the CUTEST. 4chan wouldn't be dying if the schizos were cute and charming like this one.
>>738830519>esp ra deHow would you rank it compared to Hellsinker? Feels like esp ra de is the father of hellsinker.
>>738830519>>738830534>>738830562>>738830654lol, all me btw
>>738819782No wonder touhou is so popular in japan.
see >>738829908
>>738830562I haven't played hell sinker. I like esp ra de because the shield laser gameplay is fucking cool. I like how you make power ups instead of having to get them randomly and they feel just good to collect. Great stages and bosses and no shitty parts (like espaluga 2 has). And the aesthetics are neat it's like a vertical scrolling sin and punishment.
>>738830740>ohhhh noooooo i got outed as a troon
https://youtu.be/LqN5D1kVkYM
>>738819782KetsuiPachi was so much fucking fun.
>>738830826No man can be this based
>>738830654Where was this attitude when /vr/ and /vg/ kicked your ass out?
>>738830729Next to his foot, is that a Kamen Rider transformation belt?
>>738819782hello msx
>>738824896Does this game have the best roster out of any shmup? It's like a fighting game roster, almost no game gives you as many cool characters to play as.
>>738825307Ginga Force is decent for "modern" style gamers because you can grind levels to get more lives, similar to ZeroRanger, as well as unlock stronger weapons. The game is played through a stage select instead of one long run so you don't have to commit to a full 40 minute playthrough.
>>738831791My favorite ship rosters are in psikyo games, I feel those have the best genuine variety. Having stuff like boss triggers being tied to ships is insanely cool though.
>>738819782but mork said he would grind ketsui for 14 hours all night long then show up to work late and sleepwalking through meetings so that's why he had to quit
>>738832176>grind ketsui for 14 hours all night longmental illness is required for that
>>738832138Never heard of that, sounds cool. The most I've seen is bosses having different dialogue versus different characters/ships, which is the bare minimum you could do really.
>>738832734>Never heard of thatStrikers 1 and 2, Sengoku Blade, and Gunbird 2 in particular have really unique rosters that can change how the games are played, and are fun to play as too.
>>738824896How would you compare playing a solo ship vs picking 3 different ones? Is the latter just outright harder, especially due to being able to fight more secret bosses? I'm assuming it's more for the novelty of facing said bosses.
>Touhou 15 is so cool and unique. I like how the grazing is so different and Reisen has shields for bombs.If a Touhoufag legitimately posted this they'd be laughed at. This is the depth of these avatarnigger samefag """discussions""".
>>738830826>Tranime
>>738833298Tranny general
why do touhoutroons so desperately want to hang out with us cool shmup boys despite us repeatedly telling them we don't like them?
>uslol
>>738832859Always meant to pick up Psykio games on steam but they recently all got delisted. Luckily they're back now under a new publisher I think but that also means that the steep discounts the games used to get for being on the store for years already aren't gonna happen any time soon. Yes I know I can emulate, but I like having the games purchased, gives me more incentive to try to beat them legit.
>>738833224bro the only real gameplay discussion was "i should go in between the bullets" lol.
In a world of interesting and unique games, shmuptards choose to play the most samey genre ever invented.
>play crimzon clover switch version in handheld mode>tiny ass joycon buttons left painful circular imprints on my fingers ...
>>738834026>shmuptards choose to play the most samey genre ever invented.when i was new to shmups (as in, only played touhou) i do remember saying 'once you play one of them, youve played them all', but really, it's because touhou never changes. other shmups play differently.
>>738834026https://streamable.com/cmmyksThis is pretty fun and unique
is jaimers natty
>>738833224I haven't played Touhou 15, and the Touhou games I did play were all so much alike I felt like I'd seen enough. I guess I could say something about grazing or shields. Avatarposting, like you're doing, is not great, but it's a thread about shmups and people are talking about shmups. That's good enough.
>>738833020The only reason I could ever see to play a team is to enable secret bosses, and some ships (honestly most) are much weaker than others. So it would be a significant additional challenge for the purpose of score.
>>738834993he just has shmup autism
>>738830057>"your gf/bf"hahahahaaaaa....... yeaaaaaaa..............
>>738834993He's Dutch, so yes
>>738833870Being able to visualize lanes instead of trying to aimlessly dodge bullets one at a time is super important.
reminder: if you do not buy Reignite, no other CAVE shmups will be ported to PC, in addition to Ubusuna never releasing
>>738837160I have a feeling it will do just fine. Which is to say a ton of people will buy it then not play it until years later.
Metal Slug at HEYhttps://www.youtube.com/live/O9kq7XzTMO0
>>738836490wow deep shit bro. the shittiest touhou normal player figured that out 30 years ago.
>>738834993Probably, he's kinda mid at like everything
>>738835149You're not talking about shmups. You're reading off a wiki about shottypes. Picrel is what you do when someone actually discusses shmups.
>>738819782Aren't you an unemployed britfag tho?Do you still post hula hoop videos on youtube?
>>738825307Natsuki Chronicles is the game that made the genre click for me, showing the bullet trajectory is great for noobs
>>738839063Nice ban evasion retard
>>738839213answer the question >>738839138
is there a way to play this game without feeling like you're sliding on ice?
Do flash games count?
>>738839063I think you've confused me with someone else who recited information without any editorializing.Specifically talking about the two things mentioned: Grazing typically isn't a very fun mechanic. I want to get as far away from bullets as possible, not stay pretty close to them but not too close. Shikigami no Shiro is another game that heavily relies on grazing, and I hated it there where I'd want to ride a single bullet all the way across the screen because it was just so much better than not intentionally grazing.It's definitely weird to have a resource for shields. ESP Galuda has something kind of similar where you have a button that puts a shield up, but that still ends in an attack. It feels more like panic bombing where you use an attack specifically because it's invincible to something that would probably have hit you.
>>738839219I didn't get banned. Not sorry if you or your avatarnigger buddy did.
>>738839138as the OP, i am employed and made this thread on my phone while at work. im also not british and dont post hula hoop videos, take your meds
>>738839242Not that guy but I'll answer: sure.
>>738839287yes
>>738819782I generally ignore shmups. Shit genre with unusually good art to bait people into playing them. Only shmup minigames like in No More Heroes are tolerable.
>>738839316Yeah you did, you post the same boring schizo shit every day. It's easy to tell. And if you didn't get banned mods need to do their job better if they want this board to survive into the next year.
>>738839478>same boring schizoso you
>>738839309>filtered by grazing>i didn't have funhahahahaha holy shit. i'll use that next time i'm shit at something.
>>738839625NTA but any game where grazing is the primary mechanic is gunna be insanely boring by necessity. Can't have genuinely fun patterns if they're designed to be grazed.
>NTA
>>738839687you think psyvariar 2 is boring?
>>738839625I don't find RTS, chess, rhythm games, fighting games, light gun shooters, gacha, Candy Crush, RPGs, or Touhou fun at all. That's why I "play" shmups.
>>738824519nta butThat's the thing about these kind of games, I'm really not the kind of player that improves much by playing them over and over.Even if I *COULD* get really good at them by playing them over and over, I do not have nearly the patience for do to so and would rather just play something from a different genre in which the default assumption of the gameplay loop doesn't involve seeing the game over screen every three minutes.
>>738819782Regular old shmups are fun. But once you enter bullet hell territory, you have shown you no longer respect me, you only see me as a monkey to dance around on your playing field. I refuse to play your sick mind games.
>>738839925If you shy away from practice you'll wind up realizing down the road you don't even like video games and were just mindlessly consuming like aktane
>>738839868for me it's vampire survivors and stardew valley
>>738834103arcade ojisans are gigabased
>>738840051It's AI, samefag
The bullet hell vs non bullet hell schism is funny because all of these games employ the exact same tactic when they want to shit on the player: limit the amount of space they can move around in.
>>738839845Extremely
>>738839925You forgot your avatar lol
a reminder that all the antiposting is just the same 2 schizos responding to themselvesin the normal threads where they got banned there were none of them
>>738819782I'm a NEET and despite can play any time unironically playing Shmups seems optimal around 2 hours per day.
>>738839252By not playing it on an emulator which is notorious for introducing input lag, probably.
"Repetition" is a part of all real games. In modern "games" the whole thing is just a tutorial from start to finish instead, the game ends before you get to even play it for real. I'd rather play 20 minutes of a real game for 20 hours than a 20 hour long tutorial that ends when the credits roll.
>>738840080You mean you're AI.
>>738840725Once I have my route down and smell blood in the water there is no way I can stop at 2 hours, I have to forcibly peel myself away.
>>738840914shut up oniifag
i started working on my own shmup based on arrange b of dfk, im mainly an artist though.
>>738839440You will fit in gatcha games
>>738840080>tfw can't tell itwhere's the slop sign?
>>738839252It plays good on the actual ps2. As long as your ps2 can read cds cause it's a cd game not a dvd one. Great game and great soundtrack but the final couple stages are super hard. Actually I take that back pretty much the whole game is brutal. I think level 2 ends with a friggin boss rush... Usually devs save that kinda shit for later but treasure goes all out. I wish Konami gave a shit about it and ported it off the ps2 onto the pc and switch but alas.
>>738840087dadsmhups are harder than most bullet hells but dadshmups are bad because... popular?
>>738841370I don't find them fun. That's why I shitpost about shmups like a tranny instead.
>>738842029>dadsmhupsYou mean like Sengoku Ace
>>738819782Autism grinding to even play the game is not respecting your time you fucking faggot.
>>738819782I bought 2 shmups today, but really, I just wanted to post >thispic.
>>738842656Perhaps try playing them
>>738842706I will. Later today.That being said, Sine Mora is my fav shmup.
>>738842656How is Batsugun Switch ver?Are you female?
>>738819782I'm.not transgender sorry. I also don't consider spending 30 mins a day on aimlab a videogame.
>>738842029>dadshmups are badno one said that. take your meds
Not enough fuel to keep it until bump limit. We are so over.
>>738845403What did you expect? One third of these threads is thr avatarfag talking to himself and/or seething, and another third is Anons mocking him
>>738843457>Are you female?Women don't buy giant figures of Cloud and Tifa.
live
>>738837160ubusuna is never releasing regardless tbf
I have had the entire EOSD album playing on repeat in my head for at least 2 weeks now. It doesn't matter how much I play, in fact playing seems to make it worse. I literally can not make it stop. I try to listen to the album on youtube to make it go away and it just makes me remember even more of the music for next time... It's been over an hour since I woke up and the entire fucking time I've had the stage 2 boss music just fucking GOING in my head it won't STOP aaagggghhhhhhhhhhhhttps://youtu.be/zWss-16N4tg?si=7u0yjOpY-clsk_xb
>>738819782I'm (sadly) employedShmups and rhythm games are my default genre when I don't know what to play and want to play for an hour or twoShmups are even fine for when I work from home (even if in that case I kinda prefer other genres where pausing and coming back 5 minutes later isn't the exact same as dying)Started playing this one the other day, it's not groundbreaking but I dig the aesthetic and the levels and bosses patterns are nice (It's a bit on the easier side, you have some purposefully unavoidable bs that is meant for you to use your "delete everything" button, but I don't mind it)
>>738853594somethng about the newer style of bullets in games like the one u posted and Danmaku Unlimited 2 just turns me off. For no particular reason it just feels harder to dodge.
>>738847894Uh yeah they do, why would a man buy a matching pair of their personal favorite ship or whatever? That's legit vagina haver activity, no way that's someone with a penis and if it is they need to reconsider their life choices
>>738837160My precious Muchi Muchi Pork...
>>738855791It's kinda messed up 1.01 is locked behind an Xbox 360 game
>>738841492Not the guy who posted it but I don't know the guy's immediate reaction and just vibe of how he's moving looks weirdAlso, the name of the file just looks like a promptBut if I'm wrong feel free to let me know where the video's from and/or who that guy is
>>738856586Dude there's no way that's AI generated, how is AI gunna perfectly replicate games
>>738819782>Shmups are one of the only game genres that are for people with jobsYeah bro, I want to stress even more after working
>>738856586its real but i can't tell if he got hit or glitched the screen by pushing the joystick too hard.
>>738857101I used yandex and found the original vid on Russian TikTok>CHto tvorit etot yaponskiy dedushka>>738857429It seems like short circuit from moving the joystick too hard
>>738857126>unc getting stressed from video gamesembarrassing
>>738856586It's definitely not AI, the video was posted by a Japanese twitter user in 2019 https://x.com/de_rosa91/status/1194555227430518789
What is a good one for beginners? I'm thinking about buying Mushihime sama as my first STG
>>738858398Welp, my badThank you for looking it upI'm guess I'm fucked and will end up as one of those old people that thinks that AI stuff is real lmao
>>738858527play blue wish ressurection plus. It's free, and still one of my favorite games. Haven't played in 10 years and I got to the final stage and remembered almost all the hidden score things on the map. Great soundtrack too.https://xxgameroom.itch.io/blue-wish-resurrection-plus
>>738858527That's a decent start. It's designed to have a bunch of difficulty options so anyone can get into it. Deathsmiles does something similar.
Have any of you actually gotten a 1CC in an arcade before? I’ve only done it once and it was on the original Virtua Fighter when I was a kid. Got top of the leaderboard too.
>>738859692Only the first loop. Back then I didn't know the multi loop challenge stuff so after cleared the first loop I usually let it game over.
>>738859692There's an arcade somewhat nearby that has DOJ but I'm worried I'll job hard and I usually play on keyboard
>>738857126how do shmups make you stressed lmfao
>>738861262You're lucky to even have that
>>738857429The entire cabinet reset.
>>738862453What's his problem? Just do it again :)
>>738861293I really enjoyed hellsinker, although I only beat it with minogame. I should give it another go .
>>738862980He's likely sad the cab is dying, the score for that stage is pretty average and he died once already.
>>738857682Stop being russian
>>738864172Yandex is better than tineye a lot of the time.
I just got a switch 2. I also have a switch. Are there any shmups which run better on the switch w?
>>738865525Switch ports of shooters always have the most input lag.
>>738842825Yiff in hell, furfag! No but seriously I hated that game trying to shove story into a SHMUP.
>>738857907>>738861280you guys clearly have never been on LNN or WR pace if you claim to never get stressed
>>738865525the Switch is a children's tablet toy with 100ms of input lag, no sane person plays shmup on a switch
>>738839287I remember playing a lil flash game called Polarity which was basically a shitty Ikaruga clone. There's barely any gameplay of it on youtube but it's on flashpoint.https://youtu.be/57ab91Erdls?si=ecRWxpg7iBXhKpHz
>>738867062There's also a neat Ikaruga demo that's a recreation of the first boss fight.
>>738865783You can put story in a shmup just don't put it right in the levels. Have a "downtime" section between stages where you can talk to your crew or get exposition or whatever.
>>738867062>>738867147Flash Games... Soul...
>>738867669Naw there needs to be zero downtime in shmups. Just tell it through the stages in the background as you play like mahou or rayforce or gunbird.
>>738867669>>738868362the actual answer to this is to have a story mode and an arcade mode
>>738868362>zero downtime in shmupsSay it with me now: GAMEPLAY DENSITY™
>>738869068I have never read even a single line of dialogue in a video game
>>738869068boomer mentality of keeping shmups barebones story wise due to arcade limitations is so lame. just let people skip the story if they dont want it but you really could make a shmup that feels more triumphant if the player can engage with a narrative
>>738869546I think ESP Ra.De. has a pretty cool story that is clear to see.
>>738867669Even a fake loading screen with a description of the boss and the area would do so much.
>>738869546Have you actually tried any of the shmups that tell cool stories through gameplay
Thoughts on Senjin Aleste?]I think it's kind of a weird game, I feel like it's absolutely hard as balls and there are loads of boss patterns that I just absolutely cannot dodge but ultimately the game is fairly "easy" because it gives you fuck tons of invulnerability windows and as long as they're decently spaced out you can take like 20+ hits in a run.
>>738857126Do you like your job? Would suck if all you're time and energy went into a shitty job. If you're coming home too burnt out to do anything you're passionate about, sounds like you have a bigger problem than video games. I couldn't live like that.
>dude let's put our stgs on the switch and other zoomer home consoles instead of steam this makes total sense
>>738872089It's actually great so ofc M2 didn't fucking port it anywhere.
>>738873229At least it's easy to run on PC even if the "emulator" it needs is complete dog shit
>>738869546gradius v and einhander's stories raped the shit out of every cutscene vomit rpg out there
>>738872089I ""1cc'd"" it on Casual with 5000 deaths but it's legal as long as you don't lose all 4 ships in a short span. I'm very interested in its scoring system in the higher difficulties because apparently the complexity ramps up but the emulator's input lag fucking kills me. I didn't realize how bad it was until I played lagless games on shmupmame.This game NEEDS a PC port.
>>738871310Name them (vertical only)
>>738874309Try rayforce
>>738871310you cannot convey a deep and meaningful story through gameplay alone
>>738875058if you dont think killing aliens and robots is a deep and meaningful story then get out of my fucking website you transgender freak
>>738874303It feels great on PC for me, do you have a gsync/freesync monitor? If not, try forcing vsync off in GPU settings for the exe.From what I understand about the scoring system, there are 4 medal tiers and you go up to tier 2 at 500 medal counter and then tier 3 at 750 I think, but that's as high as it goes. Medals only drop when you're in power up, they cancel off killed enemy bullets kind of like espgaluda. If you kill an enemy point blank it'll drop the next tier of medals instead, which means you can only get tier 4 medals from point blanking with your counter at tier 3. Your medal counter gets halved when you exit power up and outside of power up it slowly drains. There also seems to be a rank system in the top right which adds a scoring multiplier but getting hit probably reduces or zeroes it.I'm working on a translation for it, I have no idea where I'd post the files though since this is all pirate shit for a still currently available game
>>738875058You honestly can, the struggle of completing the game is the story, which is why a theme often found in shmups is resolve and self-sacrifice. Plots are a dime a dozen, a well told story is what's rare and valuable, and in that regard I'd take a boring plot told well over wacky wiki bait told badly. The primary aesthetic in games is gameplay.
>>738875213I have a regular monitor but I'll try changing GPU level vsync settings for the game. I kinda gave up on it after failing to find anything vsync/latency related in the configs
>>738873229Another tragic thing, there are actually english versions of a bunch of the data in the files, but they all still have the Japanese text. That means early on there were probably plans to release this internationally but they fell through.I think it'll probably get a console release eventually, they probably didn't want to release it for home systems too soon since it's an arcade first game and needs to have its run there. It's been like 5 years though so if it's happening it'll probably be soon.
>>738854749I'm akshually "shipping" Cloud and Yuffie.
>>738875314the only game that has been able to do this impactfully is Ikaruga
>>738875836I think Hellsinker does it too, perhaps even better
>>738873229Should've bought the Aleste Collection.
>>738824817Thank you for confirming that either you don't actually play fighting games or youre the kind of person who looks up the current tierlist and only plays S ranks>Besides, there are only a handful of good fighting gamesThere are as many good fighting games as there are shmups, perhaps broaden your horizons before talking about things you clearly know little about
>>738873035Shmups are a japanese-centric genre and the Switch is the only platform that matters in Japan.
>hardly any cutscenes>no shitty dialoges>99% of the game is gameplayi agree
>>738876364>There are as many good fighting gamesNTA but no there definitely isnt
>shmups>grindsyou missed the mmorpg thread
Goddammit, can we stop letting these threads slide out? We're supposed to represent the last pockets of good discussion on /v/. This is a horrible look for us, and it's only emboldening the casuals if we can't keep this thread afloat.
>>738875058Can you imagine what an apple looks like if you close your eyes? Or is it just black.
Is Steam the best way to play Ikaruga these days?
>>738819782are there dating sim shmups?
>>738877796It's just some faggotron baiting to get bumps to keep the thread alive
>>738877957Any version of Ikaruga that isn't the PAL version on the Gamecube is good.
>>738878052No, Anon, that's a good thing. These threads are only ever a net positive for 4chan. Their contents don't matter (so long as it hasn't been derailed by 2hu and other bad fanbases), just the fact that they're bumped means that 4chan hasn't been completely compromised, and that's exactly what we need right now.
>>738878104what if I want to feel like I'm finally playing the Gamecube I never had as a teen?
>>738878279who needs organic posting when we have a few schizos on different timezones amirite sister
Is it a shmup? Or is it for chumps
>>738868664Based response DESU. Turbo autists get their no interruption shooting and real people get a story.
>>738878576I don't see why you'd want to play Ikaruga on a Gamecube controller but official adapters for GC to Switch exist.
>>738878576it's not even a gaycube game to begin with.
>>738877796I don't know what to play :|
>>738878937this unless you have the arcade cab and PCB you've never played the game
>>738878765It's kind of its own thing
>>738878937i thought it was a gamecube/console exclusive shmup lmao was it really in arcade?
Should I bother with Guwange or just play better games?
>>738819782>>respects your time (most seesions would be 30-45min MAX)You know modern games have save functions so you can respect your own time as you wish, right?
>>738819782Actually not.... you have to grind them a lot to get good. For the harder games only playing one credit a day isn't really going to cut it.
>>738879084Huh? If you already started routing it then 1cc it. It's not that big of a commitment and it's plenty fun.
>>738879075Radiant Silvergun and Ikaruga (aka Radiant Silvergun 2 in early development) were arcade games first and foremost. The arcade releases used Sega Titan and Sega Naomi though which were basically just a Saturn and Dreamcast as far as hardware was concerned.
>stage 1 is open fields, airstrips, lots of tanks and AA guns>stage 2 is mountains, with bigger guns and lasers>stage 3 is a swamp, more and bigger bullets come at you>stage 4 is in the clouds, you fight big aircrafts as you travel along a massive aircraft under you, The head of that big ship is the stage boss>stage 5 is a factory, You are completely surrounded and massive lasers and missiles come from everywhere, the mid boss is the first boss>Come back and clear the game without using a continue!>You do. Your enemy is now God. Environmental storytelling is peak I don't need more.
>>738879272I'm considering downloading it while I wait for my copy of ESP Ra.De.
>>738879264>only playing one credit a day>"most seesions would be 30-45min MAX"That's either more than one credit, or you're already clearing the game in the case of most shmups. Yes I'm a petty autistic retard how did you know
>>738868362>>738869068>People parroting Mork's video essay without understanding it. The whole point of the gameplay density argument is that your game shouldn't be padded with useless fluff that exists only to prolong the play time. In this instance having an optional story exposition between levels isn't taking away your gameplay density, you would have the option to skip it entirely by just going straight to the next level, it only exists if you personally want to get more information on the story. If you wanted it to diminish your gameplay density then the story segments would be unskippable cutscenes during the levels themselves where you have to sit and watch people talk just to pad the run time.
one time I went to a furry convention and its arcade had ikaruga on a cab with the stick set to 4-way and it had like a quarter second of input lag
>>738879740Sounds like a mighty big cope
>>738879820>one time I went to a furry convention
>>738879960I've been to like 20 it was just this one that had the fucked ikaruga setupOne of them has real PCB Mushi Futari BL on an immaculately maintained astro city
>>738880039>I've been to like 20
>>738879923Sounds like a lot of HOOPLAH
>>738880159?????
poser threadi hate mork so much
>>738880039MUSHY FUTANARI?!?
>>738819782A session might only take 30 mins but you need 500 sessions to work up the skill to finish one.
>>738824415The hundreds of quarters that "everyone" spends getting to the point where they can 1CC.
>>738824415>How the FUCK do you even make money off a shmup if [thing that is not actually happening]hmmAlso even once people can consistently 1cc most of them will keep playing for score
>>738880224>i hate mork so muchElaborate
>>738880224whats you Ketsui 2ALL score?
>>738859692Yeah I got one in NostradamusIt was an ez clear>>738861262Definitely worth it to go for it. It validates all your retroarch settings. You can go from the cab to the emulator and know what feels right. Also if you cant get it on cab but you can get it on keyboard all your clears will feel fraudulent
>>738824415They don't. That's why they went extinct. Every play at my local shmup cab is a quarter for 20+ minutes. The rhythm games are 50 cents for a song or two.
>>738881264For me it's the bongo rhythm titles
>>738842003>I think level 2 ends with a friggin boss rushFucking Big Core MK IV, favorite boss fight in ALL of Gradius and in my top 5 shmup bosses of all time.
