>Fun? Not on my server...
>>738829574pewwwww cht
Just counter with a Battalion buff lol
Why do people whine about scorch shot when stock sniper is a thousand times worse and sniper also has bullshit unlocks?
>>738829632stop being antisniperitic, closerangeyimthis headshot was promised to me 3000 years ago!
>>738829678>random ass /pol/tardisms out of nowheresniper derangement syndrome
>>738829781why are sniper haters like thisyou never saw this discourse in 2012
>>738829678>>738830010You're absolutely fucking retarded.
>>738829678kek sniper mains really do be like
>>738830049>retarded incoherent projectionngmi
>>738829574i really don't understand why people hate this so muchat most you just bounce when you get hit bit the projectile
>>738830010That's just modern 4chan, constant reactionary virtue signalling. If it's not bringing up jews unprompted it's bringing up Indians unprompted or bringing up queers unprompted. If you ever point out how fucking schizofrenic this is, they just accuse you of being triggered. The only way someone can find this unfunny or cringe is if they're a hecking sjw.
>Is objectively the best weapon in the game
>>738829678>not antisnipetic
>Crying about the class that's almost as bad as Spy
>scout: taunt laughing>demo: HUUUURRRAAAAAAAAGGGHHHHHH!!!(audience gasps)>scout: death scream.wav:)
>>738829632A sniper has to be good to be annoying.>>738830164It rarely kills you but getting burned and smacked around by a turtling Pyro who's too far away for you to retaliate is irritating.The fact that he can get EZ phlog charge by doing this is doesn't help either.
>>738830203then why don't compfags use it?
>>738830198liberal jew jeet troon hands typed this post
>>738829574Only f2p pyros use this. Others see it as beneath them and unfun
>>738830338because the retards controlling the comp meta dont want anything that would cause any variance or god forbid cause anything interesting to happen. like how they effectively just class banned heavy by banning all of his unlocks that make him viable
>>738830338Their 6v6 gaynigger format isn't TF2
>>738830338>>738830587>>738830618unironically because compfags are too gooddirect hit is a top notch pubstomper but it's quite bad if you are up against fellow prosalso because kritz isn't as good on it but that's a lesser reason
>>738830587Direct hit is allowed in comp you seething baby
>>738829632the people who bitch the loudest about the ss are usually snipersmy personal issue with the ss is that it completely invalidates the detonator and gives the flare gun a run for its moneyit does too much too well
>>738830475since like 2021ish ive exclusively played dustbowl and exclusively played phlog scorch shot, ive accumulated 14k hours in the game since 2012
>>738830687then why do they ban 80% of the arsenal in the game you retarded monkey
>>738830648well you wouldn't run kritz on the soldier anyway. 8 seconds of guaranteed crits are wasted on a soldier who has at most 4 rockets, combined with his reload speed its fucking aids.Use on demo, he has 8 stickies and 4 pipes. Its practically a war crime, as long as you dont telegraph the kritz to the other team so they jump you the moment you pop.i may or may not be a comp nigger
>>738830587Why do people with no interest in 6v6, who would never watch 6v6 or enter a 6v6 tournament, make raging posts about how their take on how TF2 ought to be played MUST be respected and that compchads are having fun the wrong way?You are being gatekept. Nobody wants you whitelisting weapons that make the meta worse. And the Direct Hit isn't banned in any format
>>738829574>overpowered weapon>nobody uses it
>>738829574Imagine bitching about an optional secondary of the most underpowered class. At least the player who pulls it out is more than W+M1ing.
>>738830820you seething apes whine about anything that dares to change the fragile way you retards play the game then you go about raging and shitting your pants over people rightfully pointing out how retarded that mindset is
>>738830882this nigga doesnt play the game
>*pchoooooo*>*ding* *ding* *ding* *ding* *ding* *ding* *ding* *ding*
>>738830962Have you considered that these rulesets have been developed over years of competitive players who actually play this game competitively? This seems sort of obvious to me, but they iterate on what they find most fun to play and watch.Nothing at all is preventing you from making your own comp league with a silly format. You will never do this because you don't actually care, but compfags do. In my eye that makes their thoroughly tested and iterated rulesets more valid than your theoretical ones.
>>738830338Because it's fun
>>738830795>i may or may not be a comp niggeryour 4 newcomer participation medals dont make you a """comp nigger"""
>Fun? Yes on my server!
>>738830338It has similar time to kill on most ranges. And compfags unironically depend on splash damage, especially to kill meds. Oh, and like anon said, it's shit option with kritz.Also, using a faster rocket messes with their muscle memory pretty bad - airshots, bombing, dealing with scouts, etc. Going back and forth between stock and dh just means embarrassment.There's also way less heavies and sentries in comp so they don't have to depend on it to deal with turtling/tanking like that.
>>738831583no, but my 2 high participation medals and 3 intermediate podium finish medals do, alongside a couple of LAN participation medals and the fact i'm literally a TO for my local twice annual lan events.but you know, keep making assumptions of me, i'm sure you'll get one right eventually
>>738830795>a soldier who has at most 4 rockets
>>738830203only works if you're playing under 20 ping
I main Dragon's Fury and Scorch Shot and no one can stop me
>>738830203imo this should do less damage against buildings.
>>738830338Splash damage has value
>>738832423the fuck you gonna do with kritz while using an airstrike? Rocket jump out of the medic's heal beam and fire standard ahh mid air airstrike rockets?>b-but ill just stand on the ground thennot the point of the airstrike, you might as well just use the liberty launcher or stock at that rate.
>>738830203It's hard going back to stock when you actually use this thing for awhile.
it's really not that bad
>>738829632>Why do people whine about scorch shotbecause they're snipers or scuntspower classes don't like the scorch shot but they have enough hp to fight through afterburn and survive a bit of bouncing around
>>738829574Stop posting about this ancient fucking game please
>>738830338splash to suppress corners is better than trying to direct shit
>>738832667so long as the wrangler exists, there should be weapons to fuck buildings over very efficiently
>>738834169/v/ stands for valorant no cap frfr bruh
>>738829632What if I complain about both? Just because sniper is bullshit doesn't mean I can't also hate the scorch shot.
>>738829574>soldierfags complaining when other classes get to play as retarded as them.OH NOOOOO A WEAPON COUNTERED BY A DISPENSER WHAT WILL I DO???
>>738833108retard it only has 10% less damage it's the best rocket launcher you suck
>>738829632Get scratched by it once and you'll die to explosives in one hit. Snipers are only strong when you don't have map knowledge.
>>738829781longnosed hands typed this post
>>738834521Wrong.>Removed soldiers biggest weakness of only 4 shots making him now worth ubering >Can burst down sentries in a single volley>Can burst down overhealed heavies in a single volley and then 1 rocket>versatile can be used basically by itself you dont need a secondary with it atleast one that does>basically infinite ammo as long as you can keep killing your targets and picking up boxes during an uber push which lets you unload all of your 20 fucking rockets at the enemy team.>Gunboats turn you into the movement king you can zoom across the map almost effortlessly with a little practice>pyros cannot come out unscathed using this you're going to hit them with ATLEAST 2 of theseits by far the most UNHINGED weapon in the game from a PURE potential outlook anybody not fucking using this is because they dont fucking know.
>>738829781We have always been antisniperitic on /v/. You can take your tourist ass back.
>>738830203nah splash is too good to trade, especially on crockets. If it was a 1v1 fox only game sure, but you are hitting 3+ targets constantly.
>>738835085ur not doing 450 dmg in 4 rockets dumb ass
>>738835185The burst is still insane though. the point is that the weapon is a wall breaker. and lets soldier do absurdly stupid shit. in the range hes very effective in.
>>738835185>rockets have max damage of 112>112 * 4 > 450retarded fat lardass
>>738829781>t. seething sni
>>738832625Same It just comboes that well with the dragons fury
>best mobility in the game, best health in the game with no downsides (like heavy), best DPS in the game with best splash damage hitting everything you aim at, literally no counterVery balanced thank you so muh valve.
>>738836398its only like that because they need to nerf these things. these things are actually crutches that allow soldier to do all his retarded faggot lowskill harebrained shit and anybody who tells you otherwise is basically lowballing on purpose or dont know. I remember the week the Item server went down soldier play dropped atleast 50 percent because people really need these fucking things.
>>738836561every class needs to work their ASS off to deal even 1/4th of the damage soldier does in a few seconds (add here random crtirockets too). It's insane.
>>738836398>start playing again after years of not playing>mostly doing poorly as a result of being so rusty>switch to soldier>instantly start topscoring It literally is just that easy to play soldier
>>738836398Isn't Soldier literally only 3 percentage points faster than Heavy
>>738835489>>738835558>insane burst>1/2 the shots miss the target completely
>>738835085>>Removed soldiers biggest weakness of only 4 shotsAnd letting him miss all his shit because this weapon is designed for melee - short range.>>Can burst down sentries in a single volleyIf you try to approach from a range you can't gain any ground due to pushback and all your rockets miss. This scenario is only useful for turtling engies that are right around corners, and you could just shoot near the sentry to kill the engi, you know, IF you could aim.>>Can burst down overhealed heavies in a single volley and then 1 rocketIm-fucking-plying you can approach an overhealed heavy. It's still not enough damage unless you're close enough to crawl up inside his ass, which is only gonna happen with friendly hoovies. Not only because of his dps, but also because even if you get ubered his minigun just pushes you away, it's not a sentry that autotargets the closest target(med).Also, it's not a single volley if you have to add another shot after, and he's still receiving heals during your reload, which you naturally ignore.>>versatile can be used basically by itself you dont need a secondary with it atleast one that doesDamage, I presume? This is the gunboats argument, right?>>basically infinite ammo as long as you can keep killing your targets and picking up boxes during an uber push which lets you unload all of your 20 fucking rockets at the enemy team.It has the same ammo as any other launcher. If anything, it's less effective ammo because you're going to miss thanks to the rng spread, and stock has 4+20 while beggars has just 20. You're also not dumping 20 rockets in 8 seconds of uber.>>Gunboats turn you into the movement king you can zoom across the map almost effortlessly with a little practiceBombing with it is fun but ultimately not useful.>>pyros cannot come out unscathed using this you're going to hit them with ATLEAST 2 of theseProvided you manage to hit him, lol. And provided he's not gonna back up once he sees you loading your trashbag.
>>738830203direct hit + buff banner has been my play-style for like 800 hours
>>738829574pewwwDINGDINGDINGDING
>>738831156>*pchoooooo*fug :-DDDD
>needs complete knowledge of the game to reach max potential
>>738836561Gunboats are bad, but the hardcoded self damage reduction is even worse. There's a reason any time you approach a soldier in close range he's just going to jump to gain a massive advantage due to his rocket jump self damage reduction.Rocket jumps should do full self damage if they're damaging an enemy. Gunboats actually do this by default, but it should happen any time a dumbass soldier decides to blow himself up in close range instead of switching to melee or a secondary. Maybe some of them would discover the shotgun if they kill themselves one too many times.
