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>Garry Newman admits that steam reviews are "painful for us" and Fans "wanted an iteration of Garry's Mod onto the Source Engine. They didn't want an engine and a platform" in new S&Box blogpost. "We cant win that argument". Reassures improvements are coming, But remains confident change was needed.
And look, absolutely no mention of how many people complained about those ugly sausage characters.

https://sbox.game/news/update-26-05-13
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>>738840237
>and Fans "wanted an iteration of Garry's Mod onto the Source Engine
.....but you can basically already do GMod in S&.
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i'm so excited for the newest updated to sausage defenders 2
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>>738840237
or the deluge of ai slop. can't issue quality control and just lets his game be all roblox clones
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Garrybros... did... did we just lose?
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garry already said fuck you to anyone who just wanted garrysmod 2 so it doesn't really matter what he does at this point

no one cares anymore
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>>738840237
GARRY IS AN ASSHOLE
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>>738840276
That's a definition of golems these days, they don't new thing, they want same shit with different coat of painting
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>>738840237
>bitches and whines about reviews
>refuses to ever consider the reason as to why his slop got negative reviews in the first place
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>>738840237
S&Box is weird because it feels like a game that was developed with nothing but contempt for its only possible audience yet the dev is for some reason deeply hurt by the negative reception.
The closest parallel I can draw is the Joker sequel. It's a hate letter to the first installment's fans and when everyone hates it as intended the writers got upset.
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>>738840237
>>738840237
>can't win that argument yet I'll use rhetoric to not honestly define what type of product I wish to sell by describing it as a platform ( generic term ) instead of a simulacre of Roblox, made cheaply by ai using scoundrels and infested with paid cosmetics


kikes/shabby goys/corporate niggers/rightards ruin everything, like how now you need to activate spur.io and shit to post on 4chins so you can be tracked down.
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>>738840276
And it sucks & is a worse, souless version of gmod.
>>738840403
>golems
But enough about Garry's discord.
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>>738840237
>OY VEY STOP RUINING OUR TAX EVASION SCHEME!!! WE NEED TO WRITE OFF MILLIONS IN TAX! YOU FUCKING GOY

no everyone should call it out, its shit it will never replace gmod and their retarded indian discord simps/scammers deserve to suffer.
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So when are Valve releasing the Source 2 editor for people to make games?
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>>738840350
Gaben is just taking the piss at Garry at this point
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>>738840728
When Half Life 3 releases
So June 13th
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>>738840728
Never, its not designed for retards. They haven't even started to make it easy to use like Unity or Unreal engine or have everything documented. Its forever being worked on by a skeleton crew of trannies at Valve's basement.

Remember Valve projects only work when more employees join that group and the people at the top vouch for them to get more support.
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>what if we make Roblox but more expensive, uglier, and harder to run?
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Were the fuck is a good replacement for SFM you fuck?
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>>738840237
alright which of frogs you was this
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>>738840616
meds now
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>>738840237
>Garry still won't admit the sausages are disgusting and a reason people look at the game and instantly recoil.
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>>738840851
good goy
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>>738840842
>280hrs in lawn mowing simulator

guy is autistic and insane.
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garry really put the steam reviews through cluade
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>>738840237
>Around 12% of reviews complained about NFT's. I have no idea what this shit is about. Of course we don't have NFTs or blockchain stuff, and never will.
don't play dumb, you know exactly what they mean
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I'm just here to say hi to the gay niggers in the discord looking at this thread.
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>>738840929
Since you're in their discord, are they still seething at the threads here and on /vg/ if you call out their games as AI slop? And how many of them are shartytrannies?
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>>738840350
S&BOXFAGS BTFO
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>>738840929
he has to cope somehow.
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>>738840237
>>738840350
JBMOD WON
GARRY LOST
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>>738840929
>"Claude, create a bar graph that breaks down all of the negative reviews. Do not include any mention of the sausage characters."
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this is like watching a car crash in ultra slow motion. this is fucking awesome
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>>738840237
Why couldn't he just build from Half Life:Alyx and turn it into gmod 2 like he did for the first with half life?
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Yes ? He just needed to do "garry's mod but source 2, compatible with every source 1 assets peoples made during the 2 last decade"
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>>738840237
i'm just now realizing how much the ugly sausage guys look like rejected gorillaz character designs
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>Around 24% of reviews complained about AI Slop. I think I addressed this before. It's not our intention to encourage games created using AI. It's not our intention to encourage people making shit no effort games. But it's a UGC platform, there is always going to be dog shit. What we need to do is remove obvious trolls, discourage it and make sure it doesn't keep floating to the top. We are developers and this is our platform. Of course we don't want it filled with shit.

this guy completely lost any ground he had to stand on here

"bro, of course there's going to be shit content in our game, we made it designed to have shit content and allow that shit content to remain because all of our effort went into making a platform where we can make big money instead of making an actual enjoyable experience, we want to be like roblox and have zero responsibility"

completely fucking pathetic. the absolute state of modern developers
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>>738840237
Here's an easy pivot, just change the fucking menu to something other than some fucking netflix choose your slop garbage, make it 100x easier to just ->press start->choose the map you want->choose if you want it to be single or multiplayer->game loads by default into a normal ass sandbox mode ALA Gmod
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>>738840237
>Italian brainrot
:/
>american brainrot
:O
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>>738841070
oh my god fucking god his fucking TOOTH embedded into the dashboard
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I JUST BOUGHT MORE HATS IN THE GARRYVERSE
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s&vestors.... my Cardboard Crowns....
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>>738841129
NOW GETTING SAUSAGE BUCKS WITH GARRYS VERSE.
GOT VIRTUAL HATS ALL ACROSS THE GLOBE (globe)
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>>738841126
The guy breaking both his arms by locking them straight out on the steering wheel just before impact is much much worse
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>>738841087
>What we need to do is remove obvious trolls
>Gmod but they can censor you
Why would I buy that ?
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>>738841141
neck tattoo went from $700 to $250
i am never going to financially recover from this
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>>738841106
>Posted Indomonkey brainrot
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>>738841203
good
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>>738841203
Someone still paid $250 for it what the fuck
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>>738840237
Wrong. Gamers love Roblox. S&Box's problem is a presentation problem. Gamers hate sausage men and a few other presentation factors.
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>>738841162
LUIGI NO
WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL YOUR LAND IN THE METAVERSE LUIGI? IT'S GONE. IT'S ALL GONE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GONNA HAPPEN TO ALL YOUR HATS LUIGI
THINK
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>>738840237
People say for years
>All we want is better Garrys mod and also the sausage models are ugly
>Gary is like "Nu uh i know better"
Game releases
>People are mad because they didnt get Gmod2 and the sausage models look ugly
>Gary: "How could this happen to me :("
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>>738841203
>yes, I'm willing to pay $362 bucks for a neck tattoo for my ugly sausage man
Maybe we proles deserve to be poor
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>>738840237
i dont understand why clientside prediction isn't in there out of the box
i havent tried it but i assume most of the shooting games feel like complete shit because of that
the biggest draw sbox could have over roblox is it provides an actually polished engine where the developers have stake in the games themselves being fun to play vs roblox where its all just parent robbing slot machine
to just say "no a latency-resistant network model would be too much work. do it yourself" shoots a lot of stuff in the head before it can even be made

i do think there is room for developers to make a name for themselves right now building some really cool stuff in sbox, but im busy right now working on another game. sbox can cook for another year before i buy in
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>>738841162
HOW WE'RE SUPPOSE TO GET DAH MEATBALLS WITH NO MONEY, LUIGI? EATIN SPAGHETTI PLAIN WITH NO SAUCE FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES IS YOUR PLAN FOR THE BOTH OF US? WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH YOU?

WE AIN'T EATIN THE SAUSAGE PEOPLE LUIGI
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>>738841141
>>738841203
SELL SELL SELL PUT IT ALL IN SWAG CHAINS NOW!
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>>738840929
Garry should just re-open the fagpunch forums so he can feel important again to a bunch of asslicking teenagers.
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>>738840237
What's the merit of S&Box outside of Garry's mod gameplay.
If you want a game dev engine there's Unity, if you want a toy version of that there's Roblox, what niche does S&Box fulfill?
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Where is JB Mod when we need it??
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>>738841336
He's not used to criticism that isn't immediately banned by his jannies.
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>>738841017
>J&Box is released to spite Garry and it does better for a gmod sequal than Shartbox
kino redemption arc
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>>738841575
Imagine, NEXT GEN LEAFBLOWER PHYSICS
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>>738841141
bros, if s&box doesn't succeed... the (((investors))) and game devs won't be able to make any shekels. /v/ is literally trying to kill the game
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>>738841389
It's a last resort for people wanting the Source 2 SDK. The improved Hammer and easy netcode would theoretically make a renaissance in multiplayer mods, Garry just took it too far by pretending to be Roblox.
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sorry garry, had to refund the game.
will rebuy it once you fix all of the shit and remove the sausage characters
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IT'S NOT FUNNY I INVESTED MY LIFE SAVINGS INTO GARRYCOIN
PLEASE PLAY THE SEQUEL TO TTT
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It's important to recognize Garry's Mod succeeded despite Garry not because of him
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PLEASE I'M BEGGING YOU SOMEONE MAKE A GAME WORTH PLAYING SO MY INVESTMENT PAYS OFF
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do we buy the dip?
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why did they decide to make a fanboy and chum chum game long after the show fucked off from nick
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I seriously wanna see QnA from Garry and him answering why he chose this fugly character design
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>>738842269
It was ahead of its time, clearly
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>>738840237
>and Fans "wanted an iteration of Garry's Mod onto the Source Engine. They didn't want an engine and a platform"
Yeah no shit nobody wanted Roblox in Source 2. People don't even really want Roblox as it exists now, it's just gathered too much momentum over like 18 fucking years to stop now, even with all of that game's original appeal effectively being gone and replaced with a soulless live service cash mine.
What the fuck made you think it was a good idea to make a game mimicking something like that but with none of the existing playerbase or established culture and momentum? How fucking dumb do you have to be, Garry?
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>>738840237
>absolutely no mention of how many people complained about those ugly sausage characters.
What's wrong with them? They just look like ed edd and eddy characters to me. Ill take that over more generic designs ngl
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>>738842383
>t. garry
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All these posts blaming the sausage people honestly feels like some kind of reverse marketing strategy from Garry so he can add whatever models come out of HLX later and go LOOK SEE WE FIXED THE PROBLEM or some shit. No character designs could possibly salvage the way S&box works at a base level because the entire fucking core is rancid dogshit nobody wanted.
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>>738841738
Literally financial terrorism
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>>738842414
Generic humanoids and he just showed corpo troonslop design
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>>738842432
>he can add whatever models come out of HLX later and go LOOK SEE WE FIXED THE PROBLEM
I wouldn't be surprised if it's the case. It explains the rather muted release. The moment that game is out with all the assets, I'd reckon Garry will ramp up the "engoodening" narrative for S&Box to ride the bandwagon.
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>>738842383
it'd be 100x better if they looked like ed edd and eddy characters
they look like you did the minimal steps possible to turn the round default unity pill player hitbox into a humanoid
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>>738842586
but how is he going to make them marketable and make tons of real money cosmetics for them?
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>>738840237
>we need nft minions
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>>738842414
>so i went out of my way to make completely unappealing disgusting characters instead
fucking mongoloid
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>>738842414
If he went with mob face or stylized anime-ish humans, he would present a fair argument
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>>738842657
BONGoloid, that explains his shit taste in character development much better
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>>738840929
You realize sentiment classification has been a thing for over a decade, right? You don't need "Claude" or "ChatGPT" for that, you uneducated low IQ brown normie, kill yourself
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>>738842414
I agree with him
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You fannies won't be laughing once the next hit game is created with S&box. The game is worth millions of pounds on the steam market and will skyrocket once the game catches on.
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>>738842976
fortunately, that will never happen
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GARRY IS A STUPID NIGGER!
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>>738843019
Actually I just asked chatgpt to create a game that will be the next flavour of the month, you should buy now while the prices are low!
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>>738840403
Hey man, how's the discord going? You should take a break from the internet if it's making you this mad.
>>738840237
A lot of this could have been avoided if he hadn't started out pretending like it was Gmod 2. Like no shit people are upset it's not Gmod 2. This retard spent years saying it was and then tried to pretend like he never said it after the fact.
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>>738840237
I think Garrrrrry mistakenly thought that it was genuinely his merit that made gmod successful, rather than him just being the first person to get lucky with connecting a popular form of gameplay with a popular property. Then he tried to play at being la creatividad with the sequel and promptly fucked it all up, when he should've been humble and just done actual gmod 2.
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Such ugly characters
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>>738842976
I am waiting for the next skibidi toilet
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>>738841162
kek
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>people would rather buy a half life citizen head poking out of a toilet than ever consider buying merch of the sausage people
good
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>>738843337
Honesty, it looks like he understands this, but he hoped the status of gmod, his name and source 2 would be enough to kickstart his roblox-like platform
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>>738843617
im learning more things about garry posting in these threads, no wonder that fucker is hated so much
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>>738842657
The article's even worse because he clearly recognised that HL2 basically achieved the stuff about realism as opposed to Fortnite's safe, sanitised designs, and then he goes full on retard and makes fanboy and chumchum
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>>738841198
you don't trust garry, his employees and discord troons moderators to do a good job at moderating the platform?
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>>738840237
Wow, it's almost like hot dog enjoyers just want a hot dog, not a shitty generic burger!
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OBLIGATORY THREAD EXPLANATION OF SAUSAGE PEOPLE WERE SO THERE WOULDNT BE PORNO MODS
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I really wish Garry wasn't a fucking bajillionaire from Rust. Maybe if he was poorer, he would've had his head out of his ass when making this game.
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>>738840237
Maybe source 2 is a good engine, maybe not. It doesn' matter. There's more commonly used and free and properly monetizeable and more documented engines and people are just going to use them instead in hopes of making that big indie that'll allow them to quit the job that makes them want to kill themselves.
The only way sandbox would've worked was as a novelty gmod2 on the off chance it attracted enough of the source engine tranny autist side of gmod who like making maps for fun (cause the other half would never follow them cause they are third worlders who like gmod cause you can play it on a potato for near free)
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>new thing bad
How to we end this contrarian hipster pandemic?
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>>738844429
why are romanians so mentally ill and why do they think they are better than the other immigrants?
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>>738840237
We told you at every turn Gary. If you can squeeze a net profit out of this, then I guess the entire experience wouldn't be a waste.
Also where water physics
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>>738840237
I understand wanting a distinct and recognisable visual look to a product that you make which is a tool that you a promoting to help others make things of their own.

The idea behind it is logically sound but that mark needs to be either be visually appealing or so banal that people are willing to incorporate that in to their own projects, These repugnant sausage people are the complete opposite of that.
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>Gamble in game with the AI slop casino games
>Gamble with steambucks on the cosmetics market
>Gamble with real money by investing time to earn a slice of the playfund
This game has it all
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>>738843958
is that the real reason? aren't the facepunch devs like, le epic conservative maga chuds?
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>>738840616
Garry is a leftist who threw a hissyfit about le nazis rp’ing on gmod, thoughever
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>>738844678
The other thing is that maybe Garry just doesn't want to put in any work to replacing them. I dunno how much work went into those sausagemen, and how deeply they are incorporated into s&box (as in, skeleton, animation, cosmetics or whatever else), but I guess it might be a non-trivial amount of work.
On some level, to me the sausagemen seem like a cherry on top of s&box's failings, rather than the root cause. Don't think having more aesthetically pleasing characters would help with the issues I've seen developers reporting on.
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>>738844760
wokes and chuds are both moralfags.
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>>738844842
both are just fags

something something horseshoe theory



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