this piece of shit cow

WONT FUCKING DIE

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Sekiro was so easy for me I played with both the demon bell and no Kuro's charm

Now, that DID make it too hard, but the game by default is too easy and only feels proper with no Kuro's charm

>>738847594
>produced and bottled in the USA

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>>738847193
Can't summon spirit ash Mimic or Tiche to solo 95% of the bosses while you stand there and watch?
Can't overlevel to become overpowered?
Can't use 100+ overpowered spells, incantations, items and weapon abilities to cheese and trivialize everything?

Good.

Get filtered Elden DOGSHIT Ring subhuman tourist secondary son of a whore, go back to Elden DOGSHIT Ring where you belong.

>>738847789
Yep, California rice and facility, process and all the stuff set up and overseen by Japanese company though.

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>>738848201
>Can't use 100+ overpowered spells, incantations, items and weapon abilities to cheese and trivialize everything?
You can, they're called Mist Raven and Umbrella.

>>738847276
ahagahahaHAHAHAHA HES DEAD FUCK YOU FUCK YOU PIECE OF SHIT I WILL MAKE STEAKS OUT OF YOU BITCH FUCK YOU

I AM FREE

>>738847193
I'm playing it right now. I don't like the minibosses with a hundred enemies around them.

>>738848201
this is literally the only reason /v/ likes it

>>738848783
/v/ likes to praise it but can't actually beat it

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>>738850216
>/v/ likes to praise it but can't actually beat it
speak for yourself.

>>738851041
absolute kinoma

>>738847193
the only good from soft gaem

peakiro>>>>>ds3=ds1>er>bb>des>ds2

I cheesed saint sword ichiro and the giant demon boss thing.

>>738852898
>and the giant demon boss thing.
How? I hate that dogshit boss.

>>738853275
the gyobu skip, look it up on yt and you'll see

>>738853275
You can make it fall off the cliff.

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>>738847193
>Mikiri into Senpou kicks
>Mist Raven into Spiral Passage
>Anti-air deathblow on a Shichimen

>>738853275
>How? I hate that dogshit boss.
Skill issue + IQ issue.
Demon of Hatred is one of the best bosses FromSoftware has ever made.

>>738853580
He goes against the design of the gameplay by being nigh undeflectable what with his attacks bypassing your block

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>>738847193
I got filtered by the chained ogre. I really did not enjoy fighting it. The fucking jumping kicking was bullshit

>>738853580
it's fine he's optional but it feels so out of place compared to the other bosses in the game

>>738853681
Nigga just Flame Vent his ass on loop.

>>738853640
>He goes against the design of the gameplay by being nigh undeflectable what with his attacks bypassing your block
Clueless + Retarded + low IQ + Skill issue.

You never learned to play Sekiro if you think it is a deflect game. Deflect is only one of the defensive options at your disposable. Demon of Hatred forces the player to use everything, it is the best designed boss in Sekiro, but Inner Father and Inner Isshin are just more kino so I rate them higher.

>>738848493
>>738847276

Congrats op the bull is always a filter for most, it's basically changed ogre 2.0

>>738847193
Actually it was very friendly and using a very large number of parry frames. It also communicates posture differences, and special attacks with a diegetic display easy to assimilate ( movements/inertia, symbols, sounds ).
ALL the game aping sekiro failed to do any of this so it's all die and retry until you learn the parry windows by heart. You don't do anything naturally. It's a disgrace. A big fat shame. The parryslop genre is full of shit.

>>738853704
>but it feels so out of place compared to the other bosses in the game
Because you never mastered Sekiro combat. Only people who understood 90% of the Sekiro combat say what you just said. There was 1 last step which you didn't understand, that is why you came to this conclusion. That missing last step is exactly the defensive option that is very effective vs the Demon of Hatred and that boss fight is designed around it and punishes those who do not use it.

>>738854038
Yeah, it's the uninstall wizard. Defeats 100% of video game bosses.

>>738847193
It's beatable, but too hard for me to bother. Dropped it after owl.

>>738854140
>Yeah, it's the uninstall wizard.
Nope. It is something you have access to right away when you start the game. Observe the Demon of Hatred, what does he do during the boss fight? Is it something you can do too? Yes. Now, apply it.

>>738853681
Are the chained ogres supposed to be europeans? They're blonde and kinda have caucasian features.

>>738854210
Looking cool and doing aura farming? I'm 200 pounds overweight.

>>738854286
No. It is sprinting. Sekiro doesn't have a stamina bar for a reason. Sprinting has become a primary defensive tool in Sekiro and is necessary vs the Demon of Hatred. Try applying sprinting vs that boss, this is the last missing element that the majority of Sekiro players fail to understand and therefore never master the Sekiro combat system.

>>738847193
I abused firecrackers and the umbrella parry.
Did I beat the game?

>>738854445
You beat the game :)

>>738847193
nah, it was tough but not too hard. i very much liked not having to manage quick slots in real time but to be able to access the inventory.
also parry > doge, best souls-like after LoP.

>>738854445
Nope

>>738847193
literal trannies finish it with 1 HP within 2 hours

>>738853704
>but it feels so out of place compared to the other bosses in the game

so did guardian ape, and chained ogre, and blazing bull, and sakura bull...
point is from soft always does this, they make a boss that ignores a core part of the mechanic forcing you to play differently


Chained ogre
>Mostly grabs
>Player is taught that dodging is still perfectly viable defense
>Posture bar doesn't move because of mostly using grab attacks instead of normal deflectable attacks
>Player is taught to whittle down hp instead of focusing the posture bar

Armoured warrior
>Can't damage hp but can't regen posture
>Player figures out you gotta knock him off the bridge
>How? By executing a deathblow near the edge
>Now the player can bring the posture near deathblow
>remember his posture doesn't regen anyways so lure him to the edge then finish off the posture bar

This is why Sekiro is so fucking good

>>738854436
Yeah, sprinting and jumping. I usually don't even deflect once the entire fight when killing him. Just have to know when to run in, run out, and jump.

>>738854436
I thought it was candies because he's doing a little pose like when I eat candies.
Anyway the bull and monkeys already teach you that if you have infinite sprint it's to abuse it.

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>>738853469
Mikiri counter and Lightning Reversal Technique are the two of the most badass things FromSoftware has ever made for melee combat. They gave me the same feeling I felt when I first encountered Flying Swallow and Izuna Drop in Ninja Gaiden.

You can tell this game is well-designed and fair because I don't think I died more than three times at any given boss after gitting gud for Lady Butterfly, besides that dogshit Demon of Hatred boss and the awful Monke Gang and motherfucking Owl but that's mostly because his moveset is built mostly around fucking with your patterns.

there should've been a route where you rape owl in the ass and teach him who's the boss

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>>738856823
>didn't experience the Shura ending
faggot.

>>738853681
literally just run in a circle and attack when it whiffs. theres literally not a single thing he can do about it. if you have the fire arm, you even get him to half health for free

>>738857047
Majority of /v/ sucks ass at gaming.

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>>738847193
>beats final boss in 3 tries
>smugly looks at camera and goes "wait, was that it...lol"

>>738857134
Majority of /v/ doesn't play games at all

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>>738847193
>Mate is a Souls enjoyer and apologist
>Gets Sekiro on mega sale last year
>Enjoy! I think you'll find this one quite challenging
>He refunds the game after 70 min
>Mfw

>>738848201
To me Elden Ring was more difficult than Sekiro (and less enjoyable) so much so that I was no longer interested in the games DLC or Elden Ring as a franchise

>>738857292
True, in a way.
Once you've gotten used to the flow of combat in Sekiro, you're unstoppable.
ER has so much bs and random gangbang fights that mechanics and skill goes out the window

>>738857292
>To me Elden Ring was more difficult than Sekiro
HOW?

Elden DOGSHIT Ring is the easiest Souls game I have ever played. So many tools to completely cheese and trivialize 99% of the game.

Everyone rightfully jerks off the gameplay, but I also really like Sekiro because the story isn't some nebulous fucking nonsense and it actually has characters speak in a forthright manner. Kuro making rice balls and the Divine Child giggling when you ask for Rice carries more fucking weigh to it than 99% of the retarded lore the other games have.

>>738853708
>"Nigga, just travel back in time and grab a flamethrower to beat an early miniboss"

>>738858987
The game places an NPC right in front of the arena practically telling you to go back in time and for chump change outright tells you you can get a flame cannon. Why are you more retarded than a 17 year old me who figured this shit out all by himself?

I stand by the belief that Sekiro is the greatest action game ever made. I will not elaborate further.

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>>738847193
It's not that hard but it doesn't really teach players to understand the rhythm of the game
You can't mash, every single R1 needs to be intentional. You R1, then see how the enemy reacted. If they got hit or they blocked you R1 again, if they parried then it's their turn and you need to be ready to parry back.

The parry window is fucking massive, something like half a second. It gets smaller if you mash the parry. As long as you don't mash you'll be fine.

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>>738858936
Everything about Sekiro is peak, Story, Characters, Japanese Voice Acting, World Design, Level Design, Combat and Bosses.

>>738847193
it feels like it at first. but you take breaks, you come back, you slam into the wall a bunch. eventually you'll notice you're getting better and better. the game will also get harder to match but the easier enemies are no longer a challenge. keep with it and you'll win eventually. it's rewarding.
it's a fun rhythm game once you learn to stay aggressive and parry to the correct timing.
HESITATION IS DEFEAT

>>738851041
bravo nolan

>>738854445
Yes. There is no shame in using the tools the game gives you to beat it. It shows you no mercy, no reason not to respond in kind.

>>738859413
all correct. you can still spam the parry button if you're not familiar with a new attack's timing, but the window gets worse and worse as you spam so best not to do this longer than necessary. ideally just parry it properly once you can recognize the attack and when it will hit you

>>738858987
or don't miss 30 years of game design and strafe to the side

>>738856906
it doesn't count. owl showing you his back is way out of character.

>>738858717
Nta, but the game feels like it throws more stupid bullshit at you than Sekiro does which makes it feel harder. But at the same time, it's much easier to cheese Elden Ring, so it kind of balances out in a weird way.

>>738859413
Sekiro basic attacks are way easier to throw out than like the Dark Souls equivalent because you can cancel them into a block. It seems they want you to attack a lot, for the obvious damage and also to fill the enemy's posture meter.

>>738847193
the only thing i hate about this game are the headless
i know there is an item that makes them trivial for the most part but damn i hate them so much

>>738859734
Or simply just jump over his grabs despite the tutorial screen telling you to dodge them.

>>738859873
I used to hate them too because of the Fear mechanic but recommend hopping into a fight with one and practicing the parry timing over and over even if you die. it kinda sucks you gotta farm Divine Confetti for them but ye not so bad after popping one of those

>>738859846
>Sekiro basic attacks are way easier to throw out than like the Dark Souls equivalent because you can cancel them into a block
While technically true this is kind of misleading, you can only do this if the (GIGANTIC) input buffer is empty.

>>738859930
or just dodge to the side.

>>738848201
>what, no summoning?
>no grinding si I can brute force everything?
>no OP wizard build where you can abuse range?
>no secret OP item that cheeses the game I can find using a guide?
>REEEEEEEEEEEEE THIS RHYTHM GAME IS GARBAGE
I'll never forget how Sekiro exposed most /v/ and Fromtards as the casuals they truly are. It's unironically the only From game where you actually have to "git gud" to beat it.

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>getting mikiri counter'd by your dad for the first time

>>738847193
I stopped playing when I wasn’t able to beat Headless because I didn’t want to get the purple umbrella ability for one boss. This was after beating the Shichimen Warrior without the umbrella.

>>738859793
>owl showing you his back is way out of character.
It is very in character, the most effective betrayal comes when you least expect it. Owl thought he had won everything, and he wasn't wrong, he had won everything, Sekiro had sided with him... but Sekiro was no longer there, only SHURA (SHURA took over after Sekiro kills Emma and looks at the horizon and smiles). That is why Owls eye burst with terror and shock when he realizes what has happened. The last time Owl saw Sekiro, it was Sekiro. When he comes back with the severed head of Genichiro, he sees Sekiro and has no reason to think that the Sekiro standing there isn't Sekiro anymore. It is beautiful and subtle story telling that the Japanese produce, a non-Japanese story teller would never be able to produce something like this and the vast majority of westerners or those who are accustomed to western story telling (like you) will never be able to pick up on this nuance.

>>738847193
Mogged by Stellar blade

>>738860296
You don't need the umbrella for anything, I never use it, I don't even know what it does really, I think it had a bigger parry window but it just seems it'd be awkward to use

>>738860035
>it kinda sucks you gotta farm Divine Confetti
I have 500+ of them in my inventory and never farmed for them.

>>738848201
HOLY BASED

>>738860186
That was so kino. I have so many fond memories of Sekiro.

>>738860510
You don't need it, but it does trivialize those fights. You can pull it out and it absorbs fear attacks like that Shaman guy that throws the purple skull projectiles at you, then you unleash a strong attack back that hits hard depending on how much you absorbed. not necessary but makes the fights cake if you're struggling to parry or don't have the purple gourd
>>738860523
yes yes I do as well, I'm talking early game when you don't have a million of those

>>738860652
>yes yes I do as well, I'm talking early game when you don't have a million of those
I didn't fight them early game lol. Too spooky.

>>738860803
>Too spooky.
That sound they make when they go for the grab is unsettling.

FromSoftware needs to make a survival-horror game, they would BTFO cacpcom and resident evil so easily.

>>738860803
true they are optional. I tried a few times and got my ass kicked, revisited them later in my playthrough along with more items and it wasn't so bad. I think I had to do them all for the achievements, the 2 that are underwater next to each other are the scariest but end up not being that hard since you can move around better

>>738860923
>teleports behind u
>hand up ur ass
>noting personnel, kid
absolutely wild lmao, shocks people at first

>>738847193
A lot easier than Elden Ring. I don't understand people.

>>738860327
>le super pragmatic any means necessary ninja full of schemes would never guard himself against the guy with the mortal blade who managed to kill the sword saint
you're braindead

>>738861013
this is what makes From games interesting imo, that everyone has different bosses and games they find easier or harder. people have different playstyles and sometimes their works can counter you or else it might be an easy fight. in DS3 my friend struggles with Nameless King & Slaveknight Gael which I found a lot easier than Soul of Cinder which he thought was really easy. Sekiro rewards aggressive gameplay and a sense of timing, but I've seen others struggle bad with it

>>738847193
If Sekiro is so good, then where is its sequel huh? Checkmate liberals.

>>738861319
>>738861013
What it comes down to is this:
Fromsoft games are not mechanically difficult, they are obtuse.
The challenge in a Fromsoft game isn't executing the correct plan, it's figuring out what the correct plan is.

If you were to put the invincible/parry windows of a Fromsoft game into any traditional action game that game would be absolutely fucking trivial because the length of all of your defensive options would be triple or quadruple what those games normally give you.

I use umbrella for headless ape.
>aoe terror attack in a confined space
Why not use it? The game was balanced with tools in mind.

>>738859432
>World Design
NGL the game is kinda ugly and samey. Fountainhead is alright but overall it's very drab and washed out. It suffers from DaS3 syndrome quite a bit.

>>738861645
yep agreed. the actual moves you do are really easy, but figuring out when and how to use them is indeed the million dollar question. learning to recognize the difference in a mikiri and a sweep attack while fighting Sword Saint Isshin is the whole challenge, pressing B once isn't exactly hard

>>738847789
Yah I'm sure the rice water in Japan is folded a thousand times

>>738861297
>you're braindead
No, you are braindead and triggered that I exposed your inferior IQ and lack of understanding of the story.

Sekiro sided with Owl in total submission.

Sekiro didn't kill Sword Saint, he killed Isshin who was sick and half dead. You do not fight Sword Saint Isshin in the Shura ending, only in the other endings. You have no idea what you are talking about, just another retard full of pride and ego, I gave you a very insightful explenation, instead of learning from it and improving, you took offense from it and replied like an ungrateful rabid dog.

This is why God hates pride, from pride comes ego and everything that is shitty in this world.

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>>738861534
>If Sekiro is so good, then where is its sequel huh? Checkmate liberals.
SOON(TM)

>Hate Soulslikes
>Love Sekiro
Yeah, I'm Him.

>>738847193
Yea I made this exact thread months ago. Genichiro & Lady Butterfly are good learning curves. It gets easier

>>738861645
Okay but action games are "hard" because they're janky. not being able to lock on or change the camera or having 10 billion enemies on screen attacking all at once with no iframes or whatever doesn't make the game better, it's just plain stupid.

>>738864018
Skill issue + IQ issue.

>>738861319
The only people that have a problem with Sekiro are the ones who never bothered to learn and test the mechanics. I guarantee you they never trained with the undead soldier at camp to master the basics.

I was one of them, I hit a roadblock with Genichiro, then I went back and learned the basics and the game clicked and I started having a blast.
Sekiro has one of the most satisfying gameplay ever.

>>738847193
It's honestly not hard enough.

>>738863000
if you do all the other bosses before those two then they become too easy albeit

>>738861753
nothing wrong with that. I use it if I don't feel like making it harder. other times I want a harder challenge
>>738864197
but did you take the mortal blade to him later?

>>738864156
More like lack-of-skill-in-game-design issue on the side of the developers LMAO
Do you also think being skilled in waxing the balls of faggots is worth pursuing? The irony in accusing someone else of having low IQ.

>>738864382
Of course.
>>738861753
It's been quite a while since I did it but I think the easiest strat is to run around like a manic to avoid attacks and chip away at the alive one since it has a laughable amount of hp.

>>738864430
oh no....here it comes....the two words....I can't stop myself, somebody...hELP!!!!! git gud

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>>738852678
This. I can't beat NG charmless with demon bell. It's too hard. Meanwhile I've done NG+7 very easily before (mostly for all skills achievement)

>>738860186
I enjoyed the face he made when you Mikiri'd him. Probably my favorite fight.

>>738864942
What's the problem? Too much chip damage? I done my first charmless run (not NG) and it was for sure harder but it was still the same where once you mastered the boss it didn't really matter if they could slap you for 99% of your hp or not
I suppose that could change with instakills but it always felt like you were either always playing catchup getting instant punished for healing or you were just absolutely whooping ass on the boss
Emma wouldnt give me a fucking chance to breath but once I just kept attacking to not give her the chance i used basically no heals

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>>738854905
>>738854941
You can literally deflect beast bosses physical attack. Fucking hell you can even deflect the shit that the ape is throwing you. Anything physical with no symbol can be deflected.
Or use the umbrella.
Yeah sprinting is valid too, but anyone saying demon of hatred is a bad boss never actually beat it. Once you beat demon of hatred you can never forget how and will starting to enjoy fighting it everytime.

I hate this demon of hatred slander. Whoever do that should go kill themselves.

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>>738847193
Alright folks who's your favourite regular respawning enemy in this game?

>>738864651
I was there when this phrase was used ironically and then when the insufferable pcfags started coming around in the threads with the prepare to die version it started being used seriously.
Pcfags are a cancer that ruins everything it touches.

>struggle with the game somewhat every time I tried it before
>get an idea
>lower music volume to 1
>play better, currently finishing up a NG+ run after getting Shura ending

>>738864430
>More like lack-of-skill-in-game-design issue on the side of the developers LMAO
Cope. You suck ass at the games, that is all.
>Do you also think being skilled in waxing the balls of faggots is worth pursuing? The irony in accusing someone else of having low IQ.
False comparison fallacy + repressed homosexual tendencies + projecting.

Sekiro isn't even hard

>>738862804
Christ you're genuinely retarded.

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>>738848201
>mentions elden ring out of nowhere
kek. still mindbroken in 2k26 award

>>738865724
What's hard?

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>>738865759
this dih

>>738865708
>Cope. You suck ass at the games, that is all.
I don't even play them.
The comparison is very apt. You're the one coping here kek. I raised criticism of bad game design and you brought ad hominem after ad hominem.
Your posts are embarrassing.

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>>738865587
These purple niggas.

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>>738865180
>Too much chip damage?
yeah and in NG you doesn't really have any luxury of high health pool and unlocked skills and upgraded prosthetic.
Deflecting mid jump
prosthetic mid jump
heck even jumping attack, probably
are all skills that you needed to unlock
And you're fucked in NG for not having it.
Fist time lady butterfly fucked me up since my health is so short that any chipped damage will kill me instantly. And Shuriken is scarce too with limited paperthing since it's an early NG.

>>738865881
>I don't even play them.
pre-emptive pride and ego protection + past filtered traumatic experience.
>The comparison is very apt. You're the one coping here kek.
Sad "n-no u" cope.
>I raised criticism of bad game design
You can't criticize, you are not qualified. You suck ass at the games. Game design good.
>and you brought ad hominem after ad hominem.
Nope, facts and facts is what I brought.
>Your posts are embarrassing.
Seethe.

won't reply until I am back later.

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Best FROM

>>738847193
Is it harder than Stellar blade?(On hard)

>>738866401
I have 1k hours on ER ur wrong it's mid

>>738865935
same

except the miniboss version in the reservoir

fuck him

>>738866190
literally should've just stop reading it the moment he said he didn't play.

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>>738865587
These guys are truly peak enemies

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I beat Isshin for the first time about a week ago, I even had 4 healing gourds left and didn't touch any rice, fine snow etc.
Sekiro is the best fromsoft game since Dark Souls 1, maybe the best they've ever made. Pure skill, casual shitters have been seething since it came out but Sekiro is just perfect.

>>738867771
my sekiro doesn't do that

>>738868205
skill issue
I just ran passed them everytime

>>738868181
It's mid

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I did not care for the tengu outfit.

>>738847594
>im goot at gaem bekaus i alredid spent 100ous ont it
no fucking shit faggot

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>>738868181
BASED.
>>738866858
>>738868275
Elden DOGSHIT Ring casual, normalfag, tourist detected.

>>738867771
thank god there was an easy way to farm these niggas for those fucking drops

>>738868476
>farm these niggas for those fucking drops
what drops?

>die
>get revived
>die again
>get revived again
babby tier game

>>738847193
I've been wanting to play this game for years but steam will never sell it for $5

>>738868475
KYS ER schizo

>>738868614
there are conditions for the 2nd revival THOUGH

>>738866190
>You can't criticize, you are not qualified
Retarded mentality, literally ab auctoritate fallacy.
I suck at the games but I also don't play them? Which one is it?
You've done nothing but cry and moan like a pathetic faggot.

I'll wait until you're done waxing faggots ballsacks.
>>738867109
>NOOOO YOU CANOT TALK ABOUT THINGS YOU'VE SEEN YOU'VE NOT REALLY EXPERIENCED THEM
I have no intention of playing shit.

>>738868562
I cant really remember, I think it was scrap iron. took awhile though

Finding out you can punish sweeps with High Monk and build a shitload posture, albiet at a risk, just made combat 2 times more fun for me

>>738867771
What attack is that?

>>738864268
I did lady before gyobo, she was fun, but I saved genichiro for last. beating the corrupt monk illusion at attack power 3 was very hard for me, I perfected all of her moves eventually. shirahagi was also extremely annoying because there was very little space for errors. genichiro took me some tries, I could bruteforce it to phase 3 but didn't. I only used one healing during the first 2 phases, phase 3 is easy when you master the jump-attack counter for lightning. I can't beat his version in the memory thou, one mistake and he destroys me, hits like a truck, and I think he's much more aggressive with grabs, super combo and shooting arrows. I think I'll beat his memory version eventually, it's fantastic for training.

>>738847193
I really had no issue with the ogre or the cow. Owl on the other hand.........

>>738851041
Honestly the most satisfying "nuthin personnel" ever.

>>738853681
Nigga just run away lol like just move away when he does that lmao

>>738869082
I probably died to the bull more times than to both Owls combined, stupid fucking cow

>>738868765
>Retarded mentality
High IQ mentality.
>literally ab auctoritate fallacy.
That isn't a "fallacy", it is a fact. Those who are not qualified have nothing of value to say, their criticism is not criticism, it is biased worthless trash.
>I suck at the games but I also don't play them? Which one is it?
Both.
>You've done nothing but cry and moan like a pathetic faggot.
I am not the one who started crying about Action games, you are.

>>738869340
For me it was the katana guy before Genichiro who does 2 attacks real quick, how I managed to make it that far without understanding the basics of combat I don't know but beating him was when it finally clicked for me

>>738869340
Skill issue + IQ issue.

Solution: GitGud.
How? Unlock camera, use pierce attack to damage HP more.

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>>738869164
No this is.

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>>738847193
No it's not.
Try to play a real hard game like pic related.
Took me nearly six hours to get through the first stage and god knows how many deaths. The game even starts taunting you and telling you to switch to easy if you die too many times.

Sekiro is fucking easy compared to this.

Demon of Hatred is so far and away the best boss in the game. The one boss where positioning actually matters

You can refight bosses anytime you want but I wish there was a way to refight minibosses like Juzou or O'Rin without looping through the whole game again.

>>738847276
I was filtered by it because I didn't knew you can simply RUN while holding DODGE.
After I realized that, it became one of the easiest boss.

>>738847193
Dodge for beast type enemies, parry for human type enemies. Learn the difference between an enemy guarding your attacks and the enemy parrying you. Keep attacking even when the enemy is guarding but when you get parried, you parry their next attack and then go back to attack spamming. Follow this advice and the game will "click" for you.

>>738869340
The bull is just straight up a shit bossfight with it running all over the place and you just stabbing it in the ass

>>738869014
I have never successfully countered his lightning in his third phase but I just manage to beat him anyway

I also did lady before gyobu the first time I played but like climbing a steep mountain. It's much better if you leave her for later. Gyobu and some other bosses are much easier at that point

>>738869641
>on charmless, the flame umbrella no longer blocks his flame
I get you should still take chip damage from a poor block on charmless--thats what it's all about. But never understand why the demon of hatred had this effect to where even on a perfect block with the flame umbrella, you still take flame damage against him. It only manifests as a problem against him, as well, and no other enemy. Basically on normal mode, flame umbrella is clutch as fuck against the demon of hatred while on charmless its 100% pointless and waste of emblems.

Still a good fight, though.

>>738869641
>Demon of Hatred is so far and away the best boss in the game. The one boss where positioning actually matters
Giga Based. You have mastered Sekiro combat and understand all its elements, congratulations.

With that said, Inner Father and Inner Isshin are still more KINO.

>firecrackers
>ichimonji
There I just beat the bull for you.

>>738869340
the bull staggers with thrust attacks on it's head. This is probably the canon way to beat it

>>738869692
>I didn't knew you can simply RUN while holding DODGE.
Elden DOGSHIT Ring and its consequences have been a disaster for the FromSoftware community and Souls community.

>>738847193
>dlc never ever
>sequel about china never ever
mods fill the void a bit, but in general they are too over the top

>>738868920
high monk

>>738847594
This, and it's fucking vile.

>>738869965
You can also parry the bull as well. The sakura bull near the end of the game, you can sneak up on him from behind and throw firecrackers which scares him into hitting a wall and immediately exposing himself to a killing blow. In the current Steam build last I check this was kind of glitchy to where the bull freeze mid-animation but there's a way to force him past that.

>>738869489
the trick is to press counter when you see the glint of his sword, but it's so freaking fast you must have a great response time. what I did instead was I held the counter button, and when I saw a glint, I double-tapped it fast, and it worked, half of his posture was gone. repeat a few times and he's dead.

>>738869340
for bull I just stood at the center of the arena and let him come to me, you just have to learn deflect timing, you can then punish him with double ichimonji. using firecrackers is actually a much harder strategy imo because he will punish you eventually.

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>hey lets make all these cool tools to help out against different enemies and bosses
>but lets make them limited (only by time/boring farming) so if you are struggling they are actively fighting against you
>lets do this in the series where we give you respawning health potions because the previous reasons are stupid
I could name 3+ solutions that would all be better for everyone easily, but they stuck with the one that turns the game into winmore if you actually know what you are doing, and punishes people who aren't sure about prosthetics

>>738853275
To the left of where you start, there is a tower that you can climb onto, and from there to the wall. Walk along the wall near the edge of the precipice, and the boss will fall off. Much faster than fighting it the intended way.
There's always a phantom nearby showing exactly where to jump from.

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I wish I could have experienced the Guardian Ape's second phase blind, but I already knew about it sadly.

Game is absolute kino on so many levels.
Luv Isshin, both of of his bossfights are fun and challenging.

>>738870241
the tell is the glint of his sword*
it's so fucking fast like you said that the trick is actually learning the timing, emma and isshin use the same move and that glint throws you off every time
unless you learn the timing from the glint?

>>738870241
firecrackers is retarded because you have to disable lockon or risk whiffing because he will stand up and the lockon will focus on his face up high. Fromsoft coding at its finest

>>738870263
The most egregious is having to use confetti (a finite resource) to fight apparitions. That's why most people only defeat all apparitions in the first playthrough. They suck and give shit rewards.

>>738870263
>I could name 3+ solutions that would all be better for everyone easily, but they stuck with the one that turns the game into winmore if you actually know what you are doing, and punishes people who aren't sure about prosthetics
That is GOD TIER game design. Bad players should be punished, good players should be rewarded. Glad FromSoftware brought back this Demon's Souls element for Sekiro.

Prosthetic tools should be limited.

>>738862256
Lol

>>738870429
What are you talking about? In NG+ cycles you have so much money and you can just buy 500+ confettis.

>>738855439
What's the deal with Genichiro's combo and not being able to deflect all the hits consistently

>>738870517
So replenishing mana in the later souls games was a huge mistake too?
>>738870429
Yeah that's actually the culmination of it all, because you get spiritfall which is just emblems and the n00bz finally beating them aren't going to use them for forementioned reasons

>>738870598
>and not being able to deflect all the hits consistently
If you time it properly, you can.

>>738870645
>So replenishing mana in the later souls games was a huge mistake too?
IDK, I don't use magic.

>>738870598
Him and the giraffe guys I find it easier to spam for some reason, I don't know if they made the hits and recovery sync up on purpose or something but whenever I actually try to time it I get hit

>>738870263
the tools are too OP if you could just spam them all the time. DSP finished isshin by spamming axe lol

I wish you could equip more than one combat art at a time. Forward R1+L1, netual R1+L1, and a backwards R1+L1. The biggest issue is that when you take the time to learn the combat arts, you realize that there are actually a lot of good ones that extend the gameplay in fun ways, but you're only limited to one at a time, and so you find yourself often pausing just to swap out combat arts quite often (or you just don't change the combat art and stop engaging with the system because you get sick of having to swap them out)

>>738869923
>I have never successfully countered his lightning in his third phase but I just manage to beat him anyway
the thing with this move is that you just have to observe him and time your jump accordingly. it's very, very easy to pull off (compared to reading mikiri swipes/thrusts) and they give you A LOT of time to press the attack button, you are basically invincible the whole time you're in the air. you will only get punished if you panic and jump too early and encounter the lightning while on the ground.
>It's much better if you leave her for later
I used hirata memory to somewhat master the game mechanics. lady is very fun and her combos are easy to deflect and learn. even the illusion attack on phase 2 is easy to counter if you use the environment correctly. purple samurai in the bamboo area was much harder to beat at that stage.

>>738870941
you basically jump, hold parry and then attack before hitting the ground right? Haven't played in a while

>>738870941
>>738869923
Use neutral mist raven into it's air attack, it's the perfect for lightning reversal. On new game + when you learn sakura dance, that is also perfect for lightning reversal and only costs 1 emblem.

>>738870912
Being able to equip more combat arts is a good improvement that FromSoftware should implement in Sekiro 2.

>>738870769
That would work into my first fix which would be to always spawn with a set amount of emblems, like 1/4 or 1/5th of your max
And your running into the problem where if that strategy works, people who know it aren't going to run out of spirit emblems because the fight is easier, so it turns into winmore again

sekiro had artificial
i dropped the game because chained ogre was impossible at 30fps

now I've completed the game twice convincingly at 144fps

>>738870912
this sucks, but there is a mod that adds a skill wheel

>>738871076
jump and press attack before you land, that's it. you will stun him for a few seconds.

>>738871175
artificial prosthetics

>>738871076
Yeah you don't have to time it but if you do it comes out quicker I think, I think some damage goes through either way like with most elemental attacks, I've never had any trouble pulling it off and it makes their third phases basically freebies because you can just wait for it, even the Inner version just makes you do it twice

>>738847193
really? i found it easier and more fun than soulsslop

>>738868562
Scrap iron and magnetite and adamntite

As well as guaranteed yellow candies the ones that help with posture, those don't really do much imo they last way shorter compared to the other candles

>>738871175
>i dropped the game because chained ogre was impossible at 30fps
FromSoftware games are unironically much more difficulty at 30FPS.

>>738871670
I never had to farm any of that, I only had to farm some fire upgrade drop from the red flamethrower barrel samurais to get the final prostethic upgrades for the achievement.

>>738854445
a shinobi knows the difference between honor and victory, you did well.

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alright gaymers what's your favorite prosthetic tool/upgrade?

>>738847594
>smoking pipe
Quit the disgusting habit anon

Youre not a hobbit, and its repulsive in 2026

>>738872352
Any shuriken + follow up slash is too goddamn useful, keeping posture damage up and not actually letting them get any funny ideas as you get up to them, and sometimes they don't even block the follow up
i went through a new playthrough thinking I was gonna get some good use out of the other prosthetics but damn if shurikens aren't ol reliable

>>738872352
Mist Raven, Flame Vent and Axe.

>>738872352
I need to play with more tools that aren't just the safe shurikens and firecrackers. The Lazulite axe is fun as hell.

>>738872352
Shuriken of course.

>>738872352
Flame vent + living force + floating passage is probably one of the most damaging combos in the whole game for just 3 emblems. You can buff with candy, as well. And if you want to just burn some emblems, go into spiral cloud passage instead of floating passage (which is free).

>>738872736
mist raven is shit tbqh

Imagine being such a fucking lobotomite that you need 144fps to beat a Chained Ogre. It's not 'artificial difficulty,' you just have the reaction time of a fucking tectonic plate. Go back to Elden Ring and summon your boyfriend Mimic Tear so you can hold hands while Malenia peggs both of you. Hesitation is defeat, but being a retard is terminal.

>>738872352
GOATED choice right there

Spiral spear
>Damages hp and posture
>Chip damages thru blocking enemies
>Costs 1 emblem
>Can be charged forward for multiple hits(still only 1 emblem cost)
>Can get immediately only requiring shuriken to be upgraded
>Insane range
>Can fuck multiple enemies up better than the cleaver type btw

Only has owl and owl father as it's weakness, literally everything else that's not him is fucked by the spiraling spear, goated prosthetic

>>738872827
The flame version costs too much emblems, but the 2 emblem is a safe way to make a boss trade their health for a combo which then opens them up to posture build up. It's great for charmless when there's that one enemy combo you can't perfect parry 100% so for only 2 emblems you get a decent hit on them while not taking damage yourself. Outside of that, it's also the best way to do a lightning reversal before sakura dance.

>>738872827
My brother in Christ it's the single most OP tool in the entire game. Nothing can beat getting behind of a boss, it guarantees 2 hits if not more. Shit's a GODSEND in Charmless runs to the point where I have to stop using it to have fun.

>>738872352
I felt all the tools were pointless, especially since they consume resources. I beat it all through parrying and occasional sword attacks.

Took me 75 hours to beat, and I did all the bosses. I don't know if that's slow, average, or fast, and I don't care.

>>738848201
>Sekiro thread
>Randomly throws an autistic tantrum about Elden Ring less than five posts in

Ahahaha, imagine being this fucking obsessed
Elden GOD Ring lives in your head rent free 24/7

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>>738865587
Ministry guys. No competition. Its pure joy to fight them. God, I love this game!

>>738873381
that's pretty slow my dude. The important thing is that you did not hesitate even once

I love that half the plot is just "The Shogun wants to gangrape the Ashina province with his soldiers, but Isshin is too fucking strong let's wait for him to die"

>>738847193
But enough about my dick.

>>738873625
The plan worked too

>>738873381
>75 hours
Goddamn even my 1st playthru back in 2019 wasn't that long, probably 30hrs tops it's a short game

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>>738873498
It is not random, it is very logical. Sekiro and Elden DOGSHIT Ring are the polar opposite design philosophies of FromSoftware.

If you truly love Sekiro, you will hate Elden DOGSHIT Ring.
If you turly love Elden DOGSHIT Ring, you will hate Sekiro.

Armored Core VI Fires of Rubicon > Sekiro > Bloodborne > DaS2 > DaS:PTDE > DeS (2009) > DaS3 > Nightreign > Shit > Elden DOGSHIT Ring.

>>738873381
I appreciate your honesty about it. Yeah, it's no wonder someone who thought the tools were pointless took more than twice as long to beat it at normal. Most anons would just hide that fact, say the tools were all shit, and refuse to explain further.

>>738873625
one fucking man held back the entirety of the tokugawa shogunate through sheer aura alone, for like what? 20 years? isshins was HIM

>>738873810
>>738874050
The funniest part is even with in-game mechanics, it's entirely true. Isshin wins even as a dying old man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqNSyD1TfGU

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>>738847193
What's the best regular enemy to "train" on? I've been fighting the samurai in the castle, they've got a decently varied moveset and drop confetti which is also helpful.

>>738874240
>What's the best regular enemy to "train" on?
Those Sword wielding white monkies, they genuinely terrify me sometimes and I have 100%'d Sekiro.

>>738865664
it's good advice though unironically

>>738874240
They're really good. So are the Senpou monks, because they'll gang up on you and drop sugars a lot.

>>738874196
I'm actually surprised by that. The dual katana shogun troops are a fucking menace.

>>738873961
nta but I truly love Elden Rang and Sekiro though

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i used cheats to beat sekiro and haven't touched the game since
would have tried the same with elden ring if not for the online ban risk
but then i found out how fucking long the game is and gave up entirely

>>738874240
They all kind of require a little different approach or reward using one combat art over another or something. These guys are good on training mikiri counters.

>>738874412
>responding sincerely to the Elden Dogshit Ring poster

>>738874373
Isshin... is STRONG.

>>738874412
>nta but I truly love Elden Rang and Sekiro though
That is simply not possible, you are lying to yourself.

>>738848201
>make demon of hatred fall the cliff by jumping on the tower + run to the edge
>spam L1
>Double Ichimonji jump

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>>738874412
Same, although Sekiro is better

Sekiro > Elden Ring = Blooborne > DS III > DS I > DS II

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>>738873961
Unparalleled autism
Imagine being such a spastic that you react like this whenever Elden Ring is mentioned

What I like about the game is that you can bypass a lot of things just going stealth or running, it makes sense really. Wolf is a Shinobi first, he does everything to win

>>738873126
I loved the spear but i never recovered from the mental damage of getting mikirid so i stopped using it and keep the shurikens

>>738874240
before genichiro, there are 2 enemies near old grave idol to train mikiri, one spear guy and one sword guy on the bridge. ninja in hirata memory and also one near mibu village in the water canyon. not sure about mid/late game. I'm playing it right now.

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Ah, Ashina. That shithole somewhere in fictional Japan, with its fine locale of
>Precarious land that needs ninja reflexes and a grappling hook to traverse
>Intangible, headless ghosts that have a literal anal fisting attack, complete with a shit spray coming out of wolf's ass
>several giant fucking snakes at least half a mile long
>a zombie village
>obligatory fromsoft poison swamps
>monkeys with alcohol addiction wielding swords and guns
>some fish guy that can just make an entire forest a misty hellworld by playing a flute
>bandits every 100 feet, even an enormous estate like Hirata isn't safe
>an "economy" that consists of a few guys in tents selling pot metal and gourds
>a twenty foot tall gorilla and his girlfriend, both will poop on you
Surely, the Interior Ministry wanted more than THAT?

>>738875068
Sounds better than most of sengoku era Japan

>>738875068
>Surely, the Interior Ministry wanted more than THAT?
ashina was a like a stubborn runaway rebellious kid they simply wanted what used to be theirs back

I wish FromSoft took notes from this game and made every character as charming as the ones in Sekiro. The Elden Ring NPCs are such forgettable dogshit in comparison.

>>738869397
>High IQ mentality.
I take it you're gigaboosted.
>That isn't a "fallacy", it is a fact. Those who are not qualified have nothing of value to say, their criticism is not criticism, it is biased worthless trash.
Go back to school, ignoramus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority
>Both.
Logically impossible.
>I am not the one who started crying about Action games, you are.
No crying. I listed the most notable designs flaws with your beloved games and YOU started crying, using ad hominems.

The facts are no lock on, shitty camera, enemy spam with no iframes etc. This is not crying.
Keep coping and seething for everyone to see.

>>738847594
>i feel the need to signal that i fell for the liquid jew to my anonymous mongolian basket weaving bros online
grim. grim fucking shit

>>738875068
You forgot the monks that will fill you with bugs

>>738873557
>>738873895
>>738874014
I've never had good dexterity (comes with autism). But I'm reading my time is not super slow for a completionist playthrough, and I did a completionist run.

If you can complete a Sekiro 100% run in 30 hours, you actually are quite an elite gamer.

>>738871175
I finished the game on base PS4 without problems. Second time I did Inner Genichiro several times on Steam Deck. You are the problem.

>>738875952
>I've never had good dexterity (comes with autism).
Literally me. Sekiro was far and away the hardest fromsoft game for me because it's so fucking fast. I do alright with hard-ass games if there's patterns I can memorize and exploit, like Megaman or Binding of Isaac.
Still beat Sekiro because it's fun as hell, took me longer than most but I did it.

>>738854219
yeah. theyre portuguese same as the bridge robertoooooo guy (even though he speaks japanese for some reason)

Favorite level? For me, it's Fountainhead palace.

thats not the issue, its too linear in its approaches, very boring on replay if it werent for the neat atmosphere and characters. stealth also just sucks ass

>>738876069
HK: Silksong was worse than Sekiro for me. I almost wanted to rage quit, but I did beat Act 3, and even did the Passing of the Age achievement (Jesus fucking Christ, I feel that was worse than the Path of Pain). Took me like 110 hours beat it.

But now I feel like I can do anything, if only I don't quit. Quite a transformative game.

>>738876103
>he speaks japanese for some reason
usually a good idea when your going to a foreign country to look for someone

>>738875791
>Go back to school, ignoramus.
School doesn't improve your IQ, it is mostly genetic.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority
Being qualified doesn't mean you have authority. Those who have authority aren't always qualified. You are low IQ.
>Logically impossible.
Logically very possible and the case with you: You suck at action games, that is why you avoid playing them. Instead you randomly start complaining about them.
>I listed the most notable designs flaws
No, you didn't. That is not a design flaw, you just suck ass at the game.

>The facts are no lock on
Good. Lock on is not needed.
>shitty camera
No such a thing. Camera control is a gameplay skill, you suck ass at it.
>enemy spam with no iframes etc.
The game gives you tools to deal with multiple enemies. Skill issue + IQ issue.
>This is not crying.
It is. You suck ass.

>>738876326
Oh absolutely, that game was cock and ball torture. Sekiro only ever really had me "stuck" on Blazing Bull, Genichiro, Guardian Ape, Owl, and Isshin.
Silksong? I swear that was about every other boss. Moorwing filtered me. Widow filtered me. Carmelita filtered me. Last Judge filtered me. Coral Tower filtered me. High Halls gauntlet filtered me. The Pinmaster filtered me. Lace 2 filtered me. Seth filtered me. Groal filtered me. The final boss filtered me. Still beat it, but sheesh. I think that's about my difficulty limit for vidya.

Fromsoft fell off HARD after Bloodborne.
>Dark Souls 3
>Sekiro
>Elden Ring
>Nightflop
Dissapointment after dissapointment.

>>738857226
/v/ isn't ready to admit that dsp is actually better at games than the average than most 4channelers

>>738875068
The Shogunate MUST grow rarger.

>>738875068
Hirata is not even connected to Ashina.

>>738876561
Ignorance and stupidity are not the same thing.
You're right, school wouldn't help in your case.

I'm not even gonna bother with the rest when the premise is this.

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>>738876746
Elden RIng was kino thoughever you had to be there in 2022.

>>738877152
The map shows it's in the same area though I guess it could be independent, I always got the feeling they were a noble family or whatever the japanese equivalent is in service to Ashina, Isshin knew Owl and Owl knew them somehow

>>738877305
>Ignorance and stupidity are not the same thing.
Those things have little do with IQ, you don't even understand what IQ is.
>I'm not even gonna bother with the rest when the premise is this.
You got refuted, accept it and move on with your life.

>>738847193
It's probably the easiest of them all other than maybe Dark Souls 1 because everything moves in slow motion. You're not playing it properly, parry literally everything.

>>738875874
>liquid jew
Are you referring to alcohol? Because alcohol is a fundamental part of European cultures and has been for hundreds if not thousands of years. To be anti alcohol is to be anti white, and thus jewish

>>738848201
but sekiro is way easier than Elden Ring. Malenia alone solos that entire game’s difficulty

>>738878373
Malenia and Demon of hatred were in the wrong games. It's funny, they would've been significantly easier swapped around into the other game.

>>738878373
If Elden Ring had a deflect button, Malenia would die like the rest.

>>738878373
>Malenia alone solos that entire game’s difficulty
Delusional Elden DOGSHIT Ring subhuman, Malenia is piss easy with all the cheese and overpowered tools you have in Elden DOGSHIT Ring.

>>738878595
>Demon of hatred were in the wrong games.
Another low IQ subhuman son of a whore talking nonsense. Demon of Hatred is perfectly designed for Sekiro combat system.

>>738877613
>stupidty has little to do with IQ
The gift that keeps on giving.

>>738878595
DoH was the final fuck you to anyone who thought they could beat the game by just spamming the parry button, people like me. probably the most frustrating fight alonside the radahn dlc fight.
>>738878652
theres a mod ive seen in youtube, seems fun.
>>738878891
Well i didnt use any of that and it was hard man

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>>738848201
BBBBBased

>>738847193
It's really not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tso8u4OJLuI

>>738858717
They're mostly talking about Shadows of the Erdtree. It's the first Fromsoftware DLC to come out and actually REDUCE people's opinion of the game overall. Also it's been long enough that people are starting to talk about Elden Ring's actual problems now that people are going back and replaying older Souls games.

>>738879223
You can absolutely parry the DoH to death, you just need the umbrella to avoid chip damage from a couple of attacks.

>>738878994
>The gift that keeps on giving.
You don't understand what IQ is and never will, only high IQ people understand.

>>738879661
>It's the first Fromsoftware DLC to come out and actually REDUCE people's opinion of the game overall
Don't equate mentally ill shazamtroons with normal people

>>738879223
>Well i didnt use any of that and it was hard man
I didn't use any of that either and she was easy. All you have to do is figure how to dodge and run during waterfowl dance.

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>>738874474
i mean sometimes the conversation goes in a funni direction
>>738874516
habeeb it
>>738874770
agreed. I think I put DS1 before DS3 but depends on mood, otherwise my list is the same as yours

>>738879661
>They're mostly talking about Shadows of the Erdtree.
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Shadow of Nerdtree made Elden DOGSHIT Ring even EASIER with all the busted weapons they added.

WTF are you mentally ill Elden DOGSHIT Ring normalfags smoking???

Elden DOGSHIT Ring is the EASIEST Souls game by FAR.

fuck i should play sekiro again, i dont remember much about the routes