>want to play a soulful game>look at games released in the last 15 years>have to sift through them for hours to find one game that's remotely soulful >look at games released before 2005 >can literally pick at random and end up with something bursting with soul most of the time This is still insane to me
>>738856151Sovl is the gayest npc dogwhistle this place ever brought into the sekrit klub.>inb4 le heckin sovlless be le unironically i look like this and say this Just say the game has charm or a good art style, you lemming.
>>738856374A third world soul is behind this post
>>738856437>ur brown, seethe, cope, dilate-I dare you to come back with something original that you didn’t lurk and see another anon say to get based (You)s, I’ll wait.
>>738856518I have nothing for you but pity, hopefully one day you can join us in the sun
>>738856657If the “sun”, is the colloquial hivemind, then from my perspective youre stuck in literary Hell.
>>738856657>join us in the sunSo you're brown
>>738856374FPBP
>>738856785That would be you projecting>>738857005Another third world soul
>>738857059I like how you had nothing to say to->>738856706
Imagine not being part of the Sun's hivemind
>>738856151Survivor bias. There were plenty of dogshit games back then
>>738857225>twitter screenshot How do you not see yourself as cancer, lmao.
>>738857264Compared to today, most games were fun. Back then it was like a 50/50 chance of a game being bad. Now it's like a 1/30 chance of a game being good.
>>738857425I give you cancer
it's literally just desaturation and anti-soul gas.
>>738857264No one said that there were no bad games, but games were overwhelmingly soulful to the point even bad games usually had soul Also this >>738857515, I would say even 1/30 is generous for today and that's if you discard all the endless slop
>>738857590I can see that, my buzzword spewing npc.>starts off with Sonic in the OPYou make this too easy.
>>738857739Get sunburnt
>>738856374To me soul means a game cut from its own cloth, which was basically the standard up until ~2008Ever since then it feels like every game from obscure indies to mainstream AAAs is dipping into the same shared pool of several repeating cloths and patterns, there are exceptions but nowhere near numerous enough for anyone to say things are still good
>>738857935Yeah that's true. Started when like half of Gen 7 games had that distinct "UE3 look"
>>738857843Get a dictionary, hard to take the third world insults seriously, when you basically copy what you think will get you called “based” or “kino”.
>>738858180>when you basically copy what you think will get you called “based” or “kino”.You said it, not me
>>738858561I did say it, Mr “heckin soooovl”.
>>738856518>he doesn't deny it
>>738856374Those are basically synonyms? Youd be mad if everyone said charm instead of soul too.
>>738858935I’d be mad if people just said “CHVRM”-“CHVRMLESS” like mindless apes, saying something is charming is just as vague, but it’s the how that implies that it’s more genuine.Saying something is “kino”, now a days could mean it’s shit and only ironically getting praised, or it’s a fucking movie-game.Either way, the point is ad nauseum, appealing to popularity mindsets are reddit both ways. You can’t say “we’re living in Idiocracy”, while also raping discussion like a retard from said movie.
>>738859474Anti fun posting detected
>>738859684>admits it’s all mindless shitposting
>>738859725Saying its good shouldnt frustrate you anon!
>>738859918Just say it’s good, how is it not NPC behavior to adopt everything and everything?
>>738856374Hylic
>>738860091Great art style, an indie rpg that doesn’t take too long to complete or enjoy. (To OP, this is called expressing an option with a sentence, and not buzzwords).
>>738859474You do realise that you could have just asked OP to elaborate instead of just seething over word choice you autist.
>>738856374Meme spouting faggots mad because this post is telling the truth.
>>738856374Who cares how it's said if you understand what they're communicating
>>738856151>play good old games everyone talks about>ignore the rest 95% that are pure shit>"muh old games are too """""soulfull"""""What makes zoomers this "nostalgic" for old games?
>>738857225Why did the CIA killeded metal music
>>738856151That looks like Croc. I know it's not but it looks like it.>games have no soul now.This is just a nonsense anti-fun "old games were better" post. I play a lot of old shit but things aren't good by virtue of being old. That's just nostalgia. Maybe the games weren't better, maybe your life was.
>>738856151Things weren't cooler in the 90s/2000s.The economy wasn't better in the 90s/2000s.Houses weren't cheaper in the 90s/2000s.You're just nostalgic.
>>738860851>Things weren't cooler in the 90s/2000s.Yes they were>The economy wasn't better in the 90s/2000s.Yes it was>Houses weren't cheaper in the 90s/2000s.Yes they wereSource: I was alive before the 2008 economic crisis
>>738860808It's the neutral chao garden from Sonic Adventure 2 Battle.
>>738859474you sound exhausting to be around
>>738861210That's what it is. Thanks senpai.>>738861146As a fellow unc I can confirm, all of those things were better. It's just a fact. I remember it and its pretty evident looking at the people who bought houses or made investments at that time. They as a generality are doing a lot better than people who were 14 in 2006. There's nothing wrong with nostalgia. But nostalgia is the enemy of progress. Some new things are good too. That is not to the exclusion of old things being good. Also "soul" is not a measure of artistic validity. It's an ephemeral way of saying "I do/don't like it for reasons I can't articulate."
>>738856374I've come to find people mad about buzzwords are almost always ESLs mad that they have to learn a new wordThis means the gatekeeping is working
>>738861569Anyone who didn't buy a house when the prices crashed is retarded. That was a once in a lifetime opportunity for GenXfags.
>>738861853Absolutely. And it's not an opportunity we're going to get. I wish I wasn't fucking 16 at the time.
>>738862136If you don't waste all your money on ethots and gacha, maybe you could afford one now kiddo
>>738862346I don't spend money on either of those things. I spend it on Monsters and cigarettes like a man. And Percs like once a pay period. Ya know, the essentials.
>>738856374Gaming sucks now because in the era of PSWii60, console makers realized nongamers vastly outnumbered gamers so there was more money to be made by "broadening the net" and pushed for gaming to be a normie thing like movies and music. Basically, the industry started making games for people who dislike games instead of those who do. That's why modern games are largely bereft of soul, and how you end up with retards like this faggot.
>>738862635>Basically, the industry started making games for people who dislike games instead of those who do.That makes so much fucking sense. I literally remember it happening now that you point it out.
>>738856151It’s just the photorealism is so boring. I like video games that look like video games.
>>738856374Soul is hard to define, like it is in many contexts. But usually people know what you mean. Charm is bit different. Your outfit can have charm, but it would be bit different than saying your outfit has "soul". Music can have some charm, but you do recognize if some music has "soul".If you are genuinely unable to tell that apart, then it might mean you lack creative skills or are fundamentally incurious person.Yes, some people spam it too much, but even then you should with basic social skills and internet knowledge to have an idea when someone writes>SOVL>soullessat some random picture, they might not be that serious and in that context it is just a short-hand expression for that "I think that one is better". That is how memes work.At this point I think you are either underage or severely autistic. Nothing wrong with latter of course, but I hope you start to actually talking with people and have some kind of idea what kind of place internet is.
>>738862635The companies sure wanted to expand their audience back then too. We had games like SMB1, tetris that is designed for everyone. Games targetting adults. We had visual novel games. We had consoles that were trying to pretend to be a multimedia device. The games are still the same
>>738856151because "soul" just means "effort" and I'm the only person that realized.>so what?so once upon a time every part of a game required effort.Nowadays you AI the code and buy the assets from a shop and use a premade engine.>soul is more than just thatnope. No, it just means "effort", they're literally the same thing.
>>738863603Kids were going "soul this" "soul that" long before AI
i miss good optimization in gameshow are games only increasing in size when graphics have been stagnant for ages?
>>738863696yeah and it still meant "effort". It never had any other meaning.
>>738861853I wonder how people will feel if the housing prices crash again after they just signed a morgage on a $1,000,000 house.
>>738863796>graphics have been stagnant for ageswhat a delusion
>>738856374>Just say the game has charm or a good art style, you lemming.So you understand what it means but you're still complaining about it?
>>738863892he's rightps4 to ps5 provides no significant graphical upgrade
>>738863892Only genuinly good looking game in the past five years in Crimson Desert. Most modern engines make anything more than a few meters away look like pure dogshit and hide it with fog.>B-BUT LOOK AT THE PATH TRACED CLOSE OF OF THIS FACE-SCANNED CHARACTER MODEL!!Maybe that's useful for interactive movies, but in a real game you're looking into the background half the time.
>>738861853only a few of the mortgage holders went defunct, i was stuck in an area where they got bailed out so just held onto empty houses until prices went back up.
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>>738864061>ps4 to ps5 provides no significant graphical upgradeThey provided a downgrade. Downgrades are not stagnation.
>>738864295>RE Engine, Unreal Engine 5 and Red Engine all look like shit, but a single gook studio made a good engine to flip their MMO assets, so graphics haven't stagnated!
>>738858618Be more clueless
>entire industry crashed at some point>a big chunk of games and even consoles were DOAYou millennials are only aware of successful games and consoles.
>>738860851You were never anything other than clinically retarded. You're just deluded.
>>738860851This, quality of life in 2026 is better than 30 years ago.
>>738864960Explain how without sounding stupid.
>>738857674Did someone make a dragon quarter video essay recently or something? Why is it suddenly being shilled everywhere. I didn't want it to be another F&H situation but if I must start saying it's actually bad then my hand will be forced...
>>738864960not for Iranians
>>738865117Of course it was better for you when youre a turd worlder
>>738863501SMB1 and Tetris don't insult people's intelligence
>>738865117anyone can make a game and put it on steamthat alone is worth all the other shit, I don't give a single fuck about AAA gaming, the fact that everyone can put something together and make a living out of it is huge, even if a lot of it is garbage
>>738864652>entire industryAmericans thinking they are the center of the world again, not surprising
>>738860851Please don't tell me you are doing this for free>>738861146This
>>738865181>>738865313I said without sounding stupid
>>738856374>"Focus, M"If you don't recognize soul in older games and think it's just merely charm or artstyle you missed the point. It's almost always taking risks, usually financially, to make features or design choices that clearly doesn't have (proven) mass appeal, but rather is chosen out of artistic freedom or simply personal preference of the creator(s).
>>738865152Dragon Quarter is literally just>what if Fear & Hunger except an actual good gameYou should be thankful people are waking up to it.
>>738865313So now it's just 100000 lone scammers instead of a few big companies with predatory practices, how nice
>>738865454I accept your concession.
>>738865385It's a jewish attempt to control the narrative. Of course, that's stopped working. Emperor has no clothes.
>>738865546Never conceded. I accept your lunacy.
>>738856151What about games between 2005 and 2011? You realize 2005 was 21 years ago, and not 15, right?
>>738863603Soulless was a thing WELL before the advent of AI. Look at the 343i Halo games. Not ONE(1) has as much soul (even stylistically) as even the least soulful bungie game. Not one comes within a country mile of the vision that pic related has.
>>738865454>>738865526>So now it's just 100000 lone scammers instead of a few big companies with predatory practices, how niceit's easy to avoid a lone scam unless you are actually retarded or buy games solely on what your dick tells youAAA gaming not having a monopoly on the entire industry is a good thing you fucking moron>>738865454you will never understand what is it to be given the tools to create all the cool shit you want and make a living out of it, it's an invaluable resource to have, if you had ever made anything in your life, you'd understand
>>738865562>stopped workingIt hasn't.I will concede that you can talk more openly about the ruling class without getting hyper nuked in silence. But most people's routines haven't changed.Even in more edge groups they very rarely get to the full root of the issue, let alone act on it, let alone in a substantial manner.
I just liked the soul chart shitposts that came out of the 40 different corruptions of sovl.
>>738865884>furry bait>soul
>>738865484Every time people "wake up" to something the thing in question takes on the form of a cheap commodified whore Also that comparison is superficial, Dragon Quarter is literally just a good JRPG and fear and hunger is more of an adventure/puzzle game. The limited saves aren't applied in the same way between them either, not even close. Even the "muh vibes" are different, F&H relies almost entirely on its gore shock value to get by
>>738865763It has. You have no idea what's coming.
>>738865745>ou will never understand what is it to be given the tools to create all the cool shit you want and make a living out of itYou're clinically retarded. Prove me wrong. You won't
>>738865745>AAA gaming not having a monopoly on the entire industry is a good thing you fucking moronThat's what it was supposed to be in practice but indie devs proved that they can't be trusted because they have devolved into AAA tier or worse. What you're really talking about materialized most earnestly in the 2000s freeware scene. Making a living out of shitting in a bag and selling it to people who don't know any better isn't something to be celebrated
>>738865941I'll believe it when I see it.
>>738866257
>>738865562>Of course, that's stopped working. LOL no wonder people are this easily controlled
>>738866558You say this like the people aren't beyond your control now.
>>738856151Realism and its consequences have been a disaster for the video game market.
I prefer low poly high res textures to the inverse desu
>>738856374You deserve a punch on the diaphragm
>>738863603>>738863858Soul mostly requires effort but effort is not a guarantee of soul
Old games are really special because you can tell everyone involved knew they had to give it their all, nowadays laziness and corner cutting is celebrated, this random ass obscure old Japanese games has more effort put into it than most celebrated indie darlings people call passion projects like Hollow Knight or Rain World
>>738856374Aside from correctly denoting the phenomenon of empty remakes made by people who don’t get video games, the SOVL meme was the last nail in the coffin for 4chan. It’s total pearl-clutching black church shit. Wouldn’t expect less from an anime website.
>>738869483Holy fucking shit that character design is goddamn awful. I can't speak to if it has soul but it absolutely looks like shit. >>738869787>Aside from correctly denoting the phenomenon of empty remakes made by people who don’t get video games, the SOVL meme was the last nail in the coffin for 4chan. It’s total pearl-clutching black church shit. Wouldn’t expect less from an anime website.Facts. Black church shit is nail on the head.
>>738856151Red Dead Redemption 2Nier AutomataBalatroYakuza 7Astro BotPlenty of good new games if you know where to look.
>>738869483HK is a bit overrated but it's not a bad game at all.
>>738870921I'm not saying it's bad, I'm saying it's a game composed out of trends of its time with lazy cut corners in every creative decision, you can have fun with it but it's not the soulful work of passion people claim it to be
>>738870750>Holy fucking shit that character design is goddamn awful. I can't speak to if it has soul but it absolutely looks like shit.It's just the art style To me the fact that it's not trying to be a universally appealing watered down anime style is what makes it soulful and unique, you can tell it's the creators' own creative voice rather than them borrowing a popular trendy voice they know will sell, which makes me want to hear them out more because it signals they have things to say
>>738856151>>can literally pick at random and end up with something bursting with soul most of the timeYeah, that's called hindsight biasWhere are you "picking them at random" from?Blogs, vods, review aggregators and rankers, right?You are not picking them out of a gamespot magazine from 2005. If you did that, you'd still get all the shit shovelware.You just benefit from the process of time shuffleing the shit shovelware off the stage.There's just as much soul now as there ever was
>>738873391Nope, literally at random, even shovelware had soul that indiefags can't even dream of
>>738856151I felt this way randomly installing NFS 2 and 3 today and was shocked at how good it was out of the box. Having a burger now before resuming.
>>738873519Too true.Most indiefags suffer from a /tech/ related cancer where they have zero sense for aesthetics because they trained themselves to somehow not care about what that stuff looks like anymore unless it is a technical achievement. So things like randomly mashing together paid assets without seeing what is wrong with that becomes way too common.
Soul just means "algorithm is *not* my personality". People who detest soul generally cannot grasp a person liking something on their own, without external input. They're either STEM brained and cannot handle ambiguity, or normie-brained and refuse to participate in anything without a discussion space attached to it.These types genuinely get upset if you like something that is both pleasant and unpopular. It's like the kind of person that gets mad when they found out you did something completely uninvolved with virtue signaling, like made some salad dressing or played some golf or something. They cannot fathom something not being systematically tied to something else.
>>738856151that looks like shit though
>>738873153>To me the fact that it's not trying to be a universally appealing watered down anime style is what makes it soulful and unique, you can tell it's the creators' own creative voice rather than them borrowing a popular trendy voice they know will sell, which makes me want to hear them out more because it signals they have things to sayFair enough.
>>738874173based
>>738856151so... liminal
