What's the fucking /v/erdict??
>>738860236i saw someone play the first 5 minutes now i want to play it as well
>>738860236It's good, don't listen to cockless seething permavirgin chuds
AI gamemade by AIVoiceacted by AIDesigned by AIEnjoy
>>738860236A fine game to pirate, but don't give them a cent.
>>738861603Sounds actually ok for a game like this.
>>738860236just assume these lazy "devs" all use AI now and don't buy it. no one deserves to make money from anything developed by or with AI.
>>738860236Runs great, looks good.i7-9700k32GB DDR4RTX 2080 Super (8G)2560x1440 w/DLSS PerformanceSettings at Medium with Textures at High and Shaders at UltraSo far solid 60 FPS in starting area and shallows.Tried 3840x2160 w/DLSS Performance but it was dipping below 60 so I bumped the res down.
>>738860236Doesn't come out for another 3 years so who cares?
>>738860236ai lesbian elf movie. don't even bother.
>>738860236More Subnautica/10
waiting for vr support/10
>>738860236Lacks any of the tension the first one had. The leviathans here just do not look intimidating in that kind of way.If you hate co-op it forces it at some points.
>>738860236So /v/,Does this game better than below zero
>>738863987I don't think most of the Leviathans in the original "looked" all that intimidating either, ghosts maybe but even the reaper looked goofy when you got up close to it
>>738860236EARLY accesss. Dumb bitches in your ear like below zero. Not obviously woke, aside from not having white people. The skin select is as white as Tio from Concord, so don't @ me. >>738860507Details or fuck off for being useless..>>738864015Haven't run into the mandatory on land segments, but it's in the same general range. Closer to 1 than below zero, still same general range.
>>738861796AI used for coding is nothing but a fancy auto complete. AI used for art or other assets is a problem though.
>>738861603>luddite accidentally shills for AI
>>738860236we are so back
>>738860236Will they get the bonus $250 million or will they fall short
>>738860236This early access grift should have been outlawed a decade ago. Finish your fucking game you faggots
>game releases today!>early accessdidn't release then did it
>Forced Co-opAh well.
I don't want to play early access. I had a blast(TM) with the first game, but I have a feeling it was because of novelty. I didn't play subzero either.
el goblino.....
>>738865121I have no friends.......
>>738863987>If you hate co-op it forces it at some points.How?
>>738865160Below Zero has a lot of problems but also some environments that I liked better than the original game
>>738865160don't bother with below zero it is supremely shittythey added some buildings from it to the base game because they knew it was so shitty people would rather play 1
>>738860236the game crashes for my favorite vtuber so i dont have an opinion yet
>>738860236is the first game good?
where the fuck is silver
>>738860236I just wanna know if it's as good as subnautica 1 or as good as below zero (i.e. shit)
>>738866740Yeah
>>738866740yes
Does it give the same atmosphere as the first game?Also are the devs still whiny faggots or did they let you have a harpoon gun this time
>>738860236>ChatGypsy fucks you over>You'll have to pay the bonus outWhat did Gookon think they were going to do? Not pay the bonus?
>>738866740One of the best survival games, yeah
>>738866906As much as their reason for it was dumb, not having weapons was a strength of the first game. If anything I take issue with being able to kill leviathans at all even with the prawn suit (well I would take issue with it if there weren't 10 billion reapers in some parts of the map)
>>738860236How much content is there for EA hourwise? Not sure if it's worth to get it.
Devs says co-op is optional. Where the fuck do you guys get the idea that there's forced coop
>>738867318This. I don’t want to get got by another early access game
The graphics have made a huge leap. Everything looks so beautiful.
looks identical to the first game and nothing new or interesting or any meaningful upgrades other than graphics
I’m not checking the archive and I’m not home yet: was anyone here able to use their save from the leaked version, or do I gotta restart?Also my advice to anyone starting today is to make a battery ASAP and take it to the wreckage just north of the lifepod (it’s visible from the lifepod), and put it in the wall to power that place on. You get quick access to biomods and I know it’s not easy to miss but it is possible to play for a while without bothering to do that not knowing what you’re missing out on.
>Early Access
>>738867539How well does it run? I don’t want this game to be another UE5 piece of shit that struggles to reach 30 FPS even on better systems
>>738867684The new vehicle is cool once you get the wings on it and the game feels much better to move around in. Between that and, I don’t know, the entire new fucking map full of new critters I think it warrants playing. The story feels slightly more intrusive than 1 but nowhere near as bad as Below Zero so far. I don’t disagree with anyone not wanting to buy it on account of it being early access but it’s at least not on-track to suck yet
>>738860236same as first game but better graphicsLE HECKIN STREAMERS SAY IT'S GOOD THO!1!!!1!!1!!
>>738861796Why does it fucking matter if devs use ai to offload shitty boring lines of text
>>738863987>Lacks any of the tension the first one had.Anon, thank you for using the correct word here. Tension. Every time I hear some retard redditor say "it was so SCARY" I want to kill someone. What the game had was tension. Tons and tons of it. There was nothing scary about it at all.Disappointing to hear this one doesn't have that.
>>738868419slippery slope. you'll just start excusing everything because it's "boring"
>>738868456>There was nothing scary about it at allI dunno reapers spooked the fuck out of me quite a few times. Ghost leviathans never really did though
>>738864348This is the correct mindset in theory. Problem is that in real-life application there’s simply no way to guarantee AI use was strictly kept to the code. If anyone working on some shit’s willing to use AI in any capacity there’s no telling where they draw the line. This Pandora’s box should never have been opened and as long as a single generative AI frontend exists, society’s dead set on a race to the bottom - just at varying speeds depending on how long it takes to sue or otherwise rescind influence from the techbro and corporate fuckheads responsible for its proliferation.
>>738864348>AI used for art or other assets is a problem though.Why?If I want a picture to hang on my wall, why should I care about the process that created the picture?
>>738868543Sure, but that's a simple jump scare. The bulk of what gets your adrenaline moving was all the slowly creeping around, wondering could go wrong. The deeper dives into wrecks. Maneuvering the cyclops into those super deep canyons (quickly going silent hoping for the reaper to pass you by without attacking). Waiting for the sneak attack by the teleporty dudes.
>>738868419Well some of us liked writing boring text! How’s an honest writer supposed to make a living?
>>738868672why should anyone get paid for something they didn't create? regardless if you "care" or not about how it was made.
>>738868672You have to be kind of retarded not to care about your artwork having any kind of history or intent. And sure, be that way, but the existence of slop makes it harder for legitimate art to stand out or really exist at all for multiple reasons. Real art’s going to be endangered within the next decade and it’ll be a sad day for anyone who’s not a brain dead dilettante. I say this as someone who finds a lot of artists and their art obnoxious
>>738863987>Lacks any of the tension the first one hadYou can thank this studio's CEO for that he basically fired an large portion of the team that made Sub1 right after it came out of Early Access, then proceeded to greenlight Subnauica:Below Zero a game that misses the point so much about what people liked about the first entry that it isn't even funny, i suspect this will be an even bigger clusterfuck.
>>738868854I keep looking at your post, but I don't see an answer to my question.If I want a picture to hang on my wall, why should I care about the process that created the picture?
Hmm, what game should i watch today?
>>738869063how is shroud as famous as he is? that guy is the most boring faggot I have ever seen in my entire life
>>738868940LOL. They said the exact same shit about photography. And there's still the intent of curation. The anon who chose the pic out of an infinite number of AI gens to put on the wall.His wish comes first.
>>738868206Not sure what you’ve got but I have a 7800xt and it runs great out of the box. 60fps and whatever the settings defaulted to with no or at least not obvious visual compromise
Game already sold over a milly, chudcels lose.>>738869167he's good at point and shoot.
>>738869167no clue, i followed him years ago and haven't clicked on his channel since
>>738869174By its nature AI can only ever produce something derivative of a previously realized idea, it can’t truly create in a way that even photography could. At least with photography the artist catches a unique moment in time, or better yet it records some structure that they staged. You’re right, ultimately it’s up to whatever the consumer wants and that’s why we’re ultimately fucked regarding it, but no one needed this fucking slop. Even from a price perspective, people who just wanted to “curate” from a wall of cheap shit could’ve gone to any thrift store and found swathes of pieces for a fistful of dollars. AI is an inferior creator, and worse yet its existence cannibalizes the field’s opportunities to advance not by virtue of being an innovation but by virtue of being cost effective and ultimately benefiting bigwigs who aren’t you so I don’t understand why you defend it beyond trolling for the fuck of it or out of sheer spite for fags like Keith Haring, which desu I’m not gonna pretend isn’t understandable.
>>738864348the code it "writes" is complete gibberish. pajeet tier (at best)
>>738860236Krafton in shamblesCulture war cock goblins in shamblesGameplay>everything wins again
Roughly how many hours of content are in the game right now? Also how is the unfinished content gated?Like does the game let you enter unfinished areas or collect resources and such with no purpose yet? That's one thing I didn't like about Subnautica 1, so much was spoiled by allowing you to explore unfinished areas.
>>738870451>Roughly how many hours of content are in the game right now?People are saying about 8-10 unless you want to build a big decorative baseThis is what you get when you reach the end of their current development
>>738870378What's a Krafton?
>CAN I MAKE A HUGE SEXY SUBMARINE AGAIN?and>CAN I DOCK IT WITH A BADASS BASE I BUILT THIS TIME? (No "park it outside and take a swim" bullshit)Plz answer
>>738867095I mean you can kill leviathans in seconds with stasis rifle and gas pods so it’s not like prawn suit being able to punch and drill them changes much.
Runs like shit in 4k
>>738864429>ludditeDoes throwing that buzzword around make your double digit IQ brain feel warm and fuzzy?
>>738862870>Runs great, looks good.>2560x1440 w/DLSS Performance>w/DLSS PerformanceLOL.>So far solid 60 FPS in starting area and shallows.>60fpsLMAO
>>738860236Is it good or not?I won’t spend money on it until i get a better idea and I really don’t want to watch some weirdo let’s player
>>738870556Thanks, I think I'd rather hold off until it's further along.
>>738861603I am!
>>738864348>AI used for art is a problem b-because I am trans!ok
>>738871085just watch a stream and make your own opinion. seems much of the same but better graphics.
>>738868940Drawtard, I dont give a fuck about your legitimate artGet a real job faggot
>>738871421Ew. But if nobody answers me then I guess I’ll have to
>>738861674only correct answer ITT
>>738871421>seems much of the same but better graphics.Ironically that's what sequels used to beI 100%'d on Subnautica well after it hit 1.0, so I'll probably do the same for S2But playing it now? Nah, I'm good
>>738871453I don’t draw art for a living or even draw, chill out
>>738861603>>738861796>>738864348HOLY REDDIT OPINION >LE AI IS BAAAD PROTEST AI PROTEC ZE ARTISTSfucking kys faggots
>Early accessHow barebones is it?
>>738871621are you indian or paki?
>>738871684whiter than you'll ever behow deep into your HRT journey are you xis?
The first game was a masterpiece. I played it with my pants full of shit because I was scared. Took me 50 hours to finish it. I hope the second one will come close.
>>738870757I mean I'm not a fan of that either
Silver? Sir, just a little silver...
>>738861603I don't have anything against using AI to speed up development.
>>738864348>AI used for art or other assets is a problem though.Why?
>>738867318>>738867478>>738870451Wait, like literally years. >>738870018Rehashed arguments the art world itself rejected, with Andy Warholl, and pop art. The automation and replication is a deliberate feature here. Also thanks for the idea. I have a friend with an MFA i need to troll, and I am going to get him a Keith Haring lithograph that I will mislabel as a Jean-Michel Basquiat. That's way better than the Kinkaide I was going to get him.
I kinda like it.Spent 3 hours, and next session I play, I will start base building.Solid so far, and good use of 30 bucks.Performance is ok on a 4080 Super with 4k output (DLSS at 1080p internal resolution) I get 90 FPS on high.
>>738870556Jesus christ, after all these years they only have half a game. And these fuckers are using AI too. Lazy fucks. All the guys who made subnautica 1 good are gone and the cancer is left.
>Bare bones Pseudo-Beta >Devs say it will be three years before the game is finishedWhat exactly were these fags working on for the last 5 years since Below Zero came out?
>>738863987>forced coopProve it then.Devs specifically stated coop is optional and the game can be done 100% solo and that it wasn't developped with coop in mind (like requiring 2 players to perform action)
>>738868135This. Never buying an early access game ever again.
>>738872852The purple haired whales were having HR meetings about how racist the world was instead of working on the game.
>>738872692>All the guys who made subnautica 1 good are gone and the cancer is left.This is why you should never have loyalty to a brandJust because it's the same company as a game you loved does not mean it's the same people behind that company
>>738873316Yellow paint? Really? Yawn.
>>738872646Lampooning shit being a legitimized genre doesn’t really justify the blatant consequences of generative AI but I like your style anon, please do that it’s funny as shit to think about. Holy fuck do I hate Keith Haring
Game looks amazing and as a pleasant surprise it seems to run quite well, considering it's a UE5 game.I'm still in the starting zone but I'm not seeing how this one's lacking tension as other anons have said in this thread. I haven't encountered any leviathans yet but native predators seem much more aggressive, a lot of the early game kit that you kind of take for granted if you played the first game aren't immediately accessible, you start being basically poisoned by the water and can't even eat the native fauna until you've explored some.Best part imo is the creature design, everything I've seen so far looks a lot less goofy than the creatures from 4546B.Overall first impressions are good. Feels a lot more like the first game in tone than Below Zero, which is good.
>UE5anybody tried running it with the UEVR mod for VR?
IGN has spoken - this game is 30% worse than Mixtape
>>738874140I’m genuinely too much of a pussy for that. I barely managed to finish Subnautica 1
>>738874198When did they start reviewing fucking early access games? How is this allowed
>>7388682651 was amazing. It's a shame you can't enjoy explorationkino. there's nothing like it, and I've never played another survival crafting game before or after it.
>>738874271>When did they start reviewing fucking early access games?When every game started to release in Early Access so they can deflect criticism and get an influx of cash from gamers
>>738874198Damn, it might actually be good then
>>738866740I'm playing the first game right now, and I find it incredible, like the best and most immersive game I've ever played.That said I'm kinda skeptical about the necessity of having a sequel, and I'll proably not buy it
>>738868728Not really
>>738874220I did Sub1 with its enhanced VR mod several times. Its great and one of those titles I frequently recommend for newcomers as a show title
>>738860236should I buy this if i like fun
Progression looks intersting and promising with some "skills" to aquire and equip. Biomes access seem to be tied to that kind of finds, and not only dive depth.Air bladder is actually pretty useful now that you can't make an O2 tank that easily, I've yet to find one of the missing ressource, and it's probably going to be deeper. Also it's movement tech since you can use it to rise 10m above the water if you had a rapid ascent.I've been to the edge of the safe shallows, and the depth coming 100+m deep look great and as impressive as they did in the first game.Make sure you have proper gamma so that dark parts are actually dark.Graphics are good, runs decent.
>>738874889What do you consider fun? I mean, at the end of the day, it's a survival crafting game. If you don't like the genre in the first place, it's not gonna change your mind on it.
>>738874889I guess it’s fun but the way you asked it makes me wanna recommend downloading OpenGOAL and playing Jan & Daxter
I've yet to see how co-op is forced.
>>738874889>should I buy this if i like funBuy Subnautica 1, it's on sale for 75% offIt's an amazing game, it's actually finished, and gives you 90% of the same game experience as Subnautica 2
>>738872856>the devs saidNot him but, you think devs don't lie?
I've seen a tiny bit of gameplay and I REALLY hope it's just somewhat front loaded with audiologs, because I couldn't stand that shit constantly breaking my immersion in below zero. The non linearity of the story in that game was also pretty awful and I basically ruined it for me by finding parts in the "wrong" order.Going to wait until it's out of EA regardless, same as I did with the first game.
>almost 450k playerswhat the fuck, how?
>>738860236Is it possible to play multiplayer in pirate version?
>>738860236holy pogchamps is this THE trending game of the month all chungus millionare streamers are paid to play (i donoed 20dollars im theyr best friend)???!?!!? me and my discord groomers are playing this to pretend like were epic streamers my childhood heroes!
>>738872852Moonbreaker, which died pretty quick. Which is a shame because it had some potential. Really detailed miniature painting, Brandon Sanderson as story consultant, but mostly pvp and gameplay needed a little more to it because it was structured as a hero shooter but tabletop, rather than a commander with generic role units.
>>738872852unironically AI side projects
>>738868560yeah yeah heard this all before with things like industral revolution and machines replacing workers in factories and all that shit. Nothing but a laod of bullshit in everyway. Times change, new tech needs time to devlop properly. Crying over AI is not going to get it to go away. It's a tool to be used and it only gets better as people learn how to use it better.
>>738863987I feel like part of the reason why the first was so impactful, for me anyways, was playing the game not knowing that leviathans exist and then seeing the reaper by the destroyed ship and being like "oh shit". Knowing that leviathans exist now is a genie that can't be put back into the bottle. That's why I'm trying to avoid spoilers for this game and waiting to play it until it's actually done. I know leviathans exist but I at least want to be surprised by them when I first see them. I'm probably going to have to go total blackout on Subnautica 2 content including threads like this.
>>738875653Nigger this isn’t ten dudes being replaced by one factory line. The scale of it is massive, and worse yet it’s commingling with globalism’s peak demolishing domestic job markets with overseas outsourcing - and the spirit of Capitalism has always been for the cheapest but reasonably performant resource to prevail but you know what? Indians are stinky, they live like bugs, I don’t want to accept the world having to meet them at their level. AI is ruinous and again, it’s not succeeding because it inherently works, it’s succeeding because big tech is forcing it to work by guzzling billions of dollars to prop up half finished data centers, straight up lying, and borrowing time because everyone got sold on the idea so hard that it just *has to work.* I don’t like consuming AI slop, I don’t like reading articles regurgitated by it or some 3rd worlder writing for Pennie’s on the dollar. We’re all stuck in this race to the bottom but I don’t have to defend this affront to mankind and sooner or later you’re going to be like me:
the meviathans in the first one aren't really scary, absolutely not scary desu, except for some gay streamers who need to entertain their audiences with fake reactions.The real scary shit is when you're buffed to the max with upgrades and submarines, and go to some previously unrealistic depth, and then you start thinking, "what if this was real, what if I was really into that submarine and any tiny material failure could send me into real terror and death, while all looks so comfy inside that sub right now"Then you look around through the window and notice how everything is silent and even the local underwater fauna avoid those depthsThis is how real phobias set in
why did they switch to unreal engine if the graphics, models and animations are virtually the same as the first game?
