>play a modern vidya>voice actress is using this "Anime voice"
>>738860469I swear there's this certain voice that actors been using for about a decade now, EVERY FUCKING SINGLE ONE OF THEMit just pisses me offit's like, I don't know how to describe but it goes like this>i'm a passive-aggressive vocal person, and did I tell you that im also a woman?.. it's part of my personalitykind of voice
>>738860752>>738860469they talk like they don't want to raise their voice and wake up their parents and all the gasps, grunts and sighs are so annyoing, i mute the voices of every modern game i play, so unpleasant
>>738860752I thought that was just the way American women talk
>>738860469>playing a Japanese game with the regressive lower talent English dub
>>738860469botw does this a lot and I can’t help but cringe every time I hear them speak, what a shitty fucking VA work they all did
https://youtu.be/ci8dIpNcyEY
>play a modern vidya>instantly recognizes the same 5 californian VAs>immersion ruined
>>738860752I just immediately change the language to whatever language the developers speak when I hear this.>It's only better because you can't understand it!!!And? I could understand it before, and it was giving me physical pain. Also, I have a hard time believing even an amateur JP voice actress could possibly be any worse than the BPD riddled, SSRI guzzling Californian I was listening to a second ago. Xenoblade and Metaphor did it right hiring random stage actors from the UK. Those dubs were infinitely better than anything that fag mafia they call a union gave us.
Spanish dubs have like just 3 voices, Man, Woman and child (performed by Woman)
>>738860469Why do westerners don't get actual children to voice act child characters?I swear to god, every time I hear a child speak, it's some grown ass woman trying her hardest to do the squeakiest voice she can muster. It's especially bad in anime games.I'm sure there are a lot of talented children voice actors. Why can't they hire them?
>>738860469thats because in the american voice acting scene talent doesn't matter, it's being gatekept by a "union" who ensures that only a handful of voice actors ever get jobs, the only way to get in this "union" is to be part of their clique, so you have to be heavily vetted and prostrate yourself before them or you're not getting any work, this allows them to have the entire voice acting scene ideologically captured so they don't allow any heckin problematic voices get roles, and how that talentless idiot yongyea and that weird fat faced asian freak keep getting workthis is also why it feels like the same 5 or so people are doing voice acting work across games and dubbed anime, it's been hijacked by LA faggots who think they're more famous than they are
>>738860469What's funny about this disaster for foid voice actors is that vtumors have shown that you have to be born with the capacity to make cute voices (in the context of english), and the overwhelming majority of the neposhitters who got into their roles simply do not translate to kawaii voice tones which like 80%+ of Japanese women can naturally do.
It's always a horrible sugary sweet voice or deadpan voice.
i mute every game, jap voice acting is shit too, so loud and obnoxious. I want to listen to some Legacy of Kain tier shit
>>738861997inmaculatehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So42r9XTqZEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foJ5p_2L_QE
>play the hottest new capeslop>its yuri shitenthal >switch to JP >experience improves due to hearing an actual actor
>>738860469Donald Trump's ear used to look like that. But not anymore.
>>738861668Because Commiefornia dubs a lot of shit, and they diddle kids there. It's to protect them from the creeps.
>>738860469>this "Anime voice"CONSTRUCTION SITE, NOW!!
Literally any JAV
Anime voice is cringe. Directors like Tomino and Miyazaki are based for discouraging that shit from their anime.
>>738860469>>738860752It is from people learning voice over work from the same people who have all been working since the 4kids days
I thank the lord we have a JAP voice option on every Japanese game by now
>>738861371never even seen BB but i love this video
>>738860752Bryce Papenbrook was probably the worst person they could have casted for Tiz in Bravely Default
>Is English voice acting's only saving grace
>>738860469I hate when a clearly deeper voiced woman speaks in a fake high pitched voice, it sounds terrible and forced. Just find a woman that has a naturally more feminine voice instead of some high T woman pretending to be feminine.Just as bad is when someone that is clearly too old to be playing a kid or a young adult sounds elderly but everybody refers to the character as a kid.
>>738860469American voice actresses cannot act.
>>738862405innit bruv
We were to harsh on Nyanners.
>>738860752Yeah it's the high-pitched cutesy ehehe voice. Fucking hate it too, it's like every single female VA is directed the exact same way.
>>738862497>Hear English>Instantaneous American derangement syndromeAhahah imagine being a britWe may as well rename the language to American
>>738861668Children can't unionize.
>>738862405Making her Welsh made her 10x cuter and more charming
>>738862602Im American, I have no problem with American male voice actors. American women are fucking terrible, infected with upspeak and vocal fry.
>>738860469Listen ESL if you're going to use "this" in this context then you need to include an example of what "this" is
>>738861142Code switching, you arent material enough to hear their real voice.
>>738860469I cant believe things have gotten so bad Eng dubs are accepted because jiggers cant read
>>738861636>It's only better because you can't understand it!!!>Japanese version tries to have English speechI still can't understand it, because I am instantly compelled to gouge out my eardrums.
>>738862497It's really night and day when something is voiced by brits as opposed to american VAs, like the souls games.
>>738861685>it's being gatekept by a "union" who ensures that only a handful of voice actors ever get jobsCan confirm, I have a family member trying to make it in the voicing industry for 15 years now. Here's a little story. He was casted in a official comic dub for a webtoon comic and when the creator wanted to make a fighting game for said characters, he completely ditched my family member (along with other small time VA's) as the Union asked him to. This family member worked hard to be casted as an ORIGINAL CHARACTER, only to passed up by someone who didnt deserve the role, and was only given the role through the union to boost HIS name, not my family members. Fuck the English VA industry, full of snakes and faggots.
>voice actor is audibly acting instead of naturally reading the linescringe and instant pass
>>738862674wayules is never good
>when you listened to /v/ and turned on jap VAIt’s unbearably bad
>>738862881/v/ and /a/ think overacting is cool if it is gibberish
>>73886046999.9% of dubs over the past decade, anime or vidya, have the problem of trying too hard to sound like they're in an anime.>but nip seiyuus do the same thingThere's a difference. The jap VAs are trying to sound like anime characters. The English ones are trying to sound like anime characters while speaking English. That sounds like a "no shit" statement, but think about it. Different languages have different inflections, they make different sounds come from your vocal chords. You can't use the same type of delivery for completely different languages, it sounds incredibly unnatural.Look at any good dub, few there may be, and they don't do that. They still sound like characters, but they're speaking without forcing themselves to fit a mold. Hell, even bad dubs like this one used to get this right by at least having somewhat proper voice casting.How did we downgrade from Saban and 4Kids? I didn't even think it was possible.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbMIJNG_lN8
>>738862881kyaaaaaaaaaaaaa~
>>738862945At least overacting is actually acting, as opposed to some cunt like Monica Rial just talking into a microphone.
>>738862401>knowing voice actors other than david hayter by namecringe
My main hate is when a guy is supposed to be a gruff veteran type, but they hire the usual anime dubslop abortion to do it. They always sound like a nerd forcefully straining to do their own cringe version of Snake.And aren't voice actors supposed to... act? They never hone their craft, they think just saying lines in a voice is enough.I could hardly stomach it my first playthrough of Armored Core 6 and it made me hate the character Walter for reasons unrelated to his in-game actions. Switch to JP immediately if you play AC6.
>>738860469>Japanese female voice actor starts talking using a "baby voice"
>>738863027I hated Bryce's voice so much in that game, it genuinely ruined the experience. Back then, I dont think you could change the language without changing the subs back then so I was double screwed.
>>738862945Euros try to pretend their English voice actors ever measure up to the superior Japanese ones. It’s hilarious how mad they get when reminded they are their rate compared to the japs
>>738861079It's likely that they just can't act out shouting because they don't know how to do so while keeping their voice.Shouting convincingly is one of the best litmus tests for voice actors.
This is why the OOT Remake is going to be complete aids. It should have voice acting like Dark Souls or Legacy of Kain but no they will have to give it the ear rape anime voice shit
>>738861685It feels like the entire industry bows down to a cabal. The same names keep popping up over the years: Alanah Pearce voiced that character in Dispatch despite having less than no talent, her boyfriend voices the protagonist in Saros, even Sarkeesian gets paid racketeering money for Slay the Spire.
>>738862993I guess that's a good way to put it. Older dubs didn't try to sound specifically "anime" they tried to sound like cartoon characters. Usually it fit really well. But most of that was real talent. Slayers voices on their own probably would've fit into most other cartoon characters of the time.
>>738861636>It's only better because you can't understand it!!!People love trotting this out, but when I actually listened to amateur VAs in a different language, I immediately noticed how bad they sounded. And some VAs are multilingual, so I heard their acting in both a foreign language and my own. I found it far better than the typical dub VAs. The impact of directing is also overlooked, and the worst is when the VA is multilingual but the director isn't.
>play game set in future>everyone has california valley accents and cadence
>>738862945Yes, even though I can recognize certain words and lines, I can forgive much in dialogue if I can't speak the tongue. The dramatic voice is much more able to suspend my disbelief when I'm not so keenly aware of the flaws in execution.
>>738860469I always play games with dialogue and porn on mute. I hate voice acting and can only tolerate it in a language I don't understand like Japanese because I can't judge how bad the voice acting is.
it's kinda funny to me that people that are so vehemently against subs use the>you don't understand what they are saying so you can't tell if it's good voice acting or notwhile the entire dub sphere in the current year tries it's hardest to replicate japanese voice acting cadence. i think people just need to realize that sometimes things just sound cooler in one language compared to another.
>>738862254>stupid faggot little cocksucker
>>738863281That is mainly because simul-casting wasn't a thing. Studios actually took time to make genuine effort to create a proper translation of the product. If you ever wonder why dubs of most things are so bad, thats why. Trying to translate (by horrible liberal translators mind you) on top of VAs not having enough time to give a 100% performance is a recipe of disaster.
>>738862945I just like talented people and artists who can actually act. Vs the English ones who aren’t capable or competent enough to deliver a good enough performance in the script they are given. Why is it so hard for the English ones to actually try or put in effort?
>dubfags
EU anon here. Just curious, but why traditional VAs like Jim Cummings, Tom Kenny, April Winchell etc, don't ever seem to do anime dubs? Is it simply because they'd be too expensive to hire?
do burgers even have a real voice acting industry?emphasis on acting
>>738862797damn thats ass, sorry to hear that
>>738860469could be worse
>Dubniggers think they have ever actually "watched" an anime and "played" a jrpg in their life
>>738860469>american anime voice dub>eugh, switch to jp>absolutely generic jp anime voice acting
>play Arkham Knight>the cast is almost entirely Hollywood guys instead of the usual union shits>stellar voice workAmuses me greatly.
>>738863326>highest skin tone available is mexican brown
>>738863513Because the American VA industry is entirely fueled by nepotism. They can put in the minimum effort and still get hired again because some faggots and kikes in California decided only they get to voice act in English.
>>738860469>play a dub>english>they talk like normal human beingsgames with this feel?
>>738862405Can be goodIn xenoblade it's absolute fucking garbage
>>738863716The thread will be deleted soon now
>>738863081>jp onry faggots unironically think this sounds goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElUWPDQ8wDM
I absolutely hate when americans try to imitate the shrill anime girl voiceno 13 year old girl I've ever met sounded like a crying infant.
>>738861079>they talk like they don't want to raise their voice and wake up their parents and all the gaspsThat honestly might be the case. You hear these type of voices with indie animations often because said VAs are currently living with their parents.
>>738863835holy shit taste
>>738863839That's exactly what rapebait should sound like, sodomite.
>>738863763Bloodstained. One of the few games I preferred the english dub or jpn.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSRylVSfxywsounds better tbqh
>>738861668Puberty. If you hire child VAs then you're probably gonna have to recast them if you ever make a sequel because they're not gonna sound the same by the time it comes out.
>>738863839i swear to god you only post this cause you like hearing tataru talkhttps://youtu.be/9j9RqUClHVQ
>>738862254What did Yukari mean by this?https://web.archive.org/web/20240219113753/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vwNdP_5Mak
>>738863580That and the big name anime dub names don't want to share.A lot of the older voice actors were just actors who did voice work on the side, and as such tend to be a lot better overall even now. Given that most of the well known dub actors tend to phone in most of their performances and coast by on name recognition nowadays, a real professional coming in and casually out peforming them would be an embarrassment
>>738862405But then you have to listen to british people speak.
>>738861668What? Japs literally get women to dub children since forever
>>738863835Trvke.>>738863912Dubfags get the rope.
>>738863554>>738863638>>738863835>>738864764
>>738864867Literally me.
>>738860469>Troy Baker voice>THAT YOU PEACH?>Focus M...>YOU'RE THE BOSS PRINCESS>le sigh........>Ok Mario, time to party. HRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAGH
>steve Blum character >you need me to just read the lines again >brrrrrrrAAAAAAAAAWAP>ugh okay >yeah Taco Bell is fine for compensation
>>738864867>implying that this only applies to Japanese games>not European games with American dubs
>>738864867spanish dubs are also better than american dubs
I miss Liam O'Brian and Crispin Freeman
>>738863462Japanese is also just really phonetically pleasing. The whole language being syllables means you can put emphasis on anything in varying tones of voice without sounding off. English is the only other language that competes in how enjoyable it is, but it can't quite do the same thingI think a good example is whenever anime characters shout "usotsuki" versus when a dub character does the same for "liar". If it's a quick yell, then it's fine for both. But if the "ki" is held onto longer for comedic effect, you can't really do the same thing in English. The "ar" is simply not a sound that's normally extended in the language.
>>738860469>voice actress uses uptalk
>>738863835In 2 and X, sure. I don't mind it in 1, even if I don't prefer it.
>>738865363What's uptalk?
>>738860469>play vidya>non-japanese voice acting
>>738864691I said westerners. Japs are kinda different, since a lot their adult women don't need to try a squeaky voice to sound like a child, they're just naturally like thatMeanwhile western adult woman voicing a children is the most forced shit ever
>>738862405>oi bruv? fukken cheezums innit, bloody arse cunt
>kaguya>frieren >dragon ball What else can be added to the shitpost list for dubfags trying to pretend English actors are equals to the JP talent?
>>738865476Uptalk deez nutsHeh, gottem
>>738865476raising the voice at the end of a sentence or sentence fragment, despite it not being a question.
>>738863593No. These union people haven't starred in movies or plays let alone gone to acting school. They just suck a lot of cut cocks until they get a job.
>>738865504More like they actually train to have range and play different characters. Where as English voice actors either use their natural voice or a forced ineffectual imitation of their Japanese lead
This is what good voice acting sounds like.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XLCGIn6_V8
>>738865556I'm not defending grandma Goku even if I dislike most dubs.
>>738860469>play horizon zero dawn>voice actors so fucking shit I considered changing language to anything else and reading the subtitles>realise story is so fucking dogshit too it ends up being one of the few games I skip all cutscenes>inb4 why play a shit gameA friend gave me the game and said it was good. It was not good.
Pffff that ain't shit,for me it's the Starbucks barista or young office lady that does nothing around voice that seems to be more common,it is extremely prominent in Ninja Gaiden 4 English dub and the fucking quirky dialogue elevates it to 100
>>738865747Goku will be retired when she passes away. If Sean died it would be”what a shame, anyway we need someone new”
>>738860469I blame autistic weebs demanding superior nihonjin VA despite not realizing ear splitting high pitched anime voices arent always a good thing.This in turn creates a demand for and popularizes a shitty practice, and then breeds a generation of VAs who think screaming in this tone is good acting.Get actors trained in classical theater. The best VAs ive heard almost always have a background or training in classical theater, even minor ones that arent known and dont come with a huge price tag.
>>738865987Your classical British actors will always be lesser than anime seiyuu. You have to get on load and accept it
>>738865972I don't care how autistic Japanese people are about their actors, Japanese women shouldn't be doing the voices for adult men. Same shit ruined Rurouni Kenshin. Good for them if they like that shit I guess.
>>738860469>playing English dubs of Japanese gamesYou only have yourself to blame.
>>738865987>weebs>dubspick one
>>738860469For me it's annoyingly high pitched voice. I fucking hate Harley Quinn for that.
I just mute the game unless im actually invested in it
I like Ghost in the shell and Yu Yu Hakusho's english dubs, but those are the exceptions that confirm the rule
english voice actors never sound like they are having fun, even in the most generic of generic japanese dubs the voice actors sound like they are enjoying themselves
>>738865987Yes the Japanese voice actors do outperform English voice actors and television actors and theater actors
>>738865315I guess that's why "translator" and "localizer" are two different jobs. It's the latter's responsability to find words that convey the same meaning, without sacrificing intent or tone. In your example, the word "liar" does sound a bit awkward in that context , but imo "lies" serves functionally the same purpose and rolls off the tongue much better.Still, the best option is to simply let people know what words are being said in a foreign language and they'll pick up the rest via context clues.
I hate the radio dispatch lady "Focus, M" voice common in AAA games the most.
>launch etrian odyssey: le millenom girl>cutscene plays>the same four american voice actors doing the same four voices with zero skill appear>close etrian odyssey: le millenom girl
>>738860469subhuman taste
>>738865987It’s been known for years that classically trained actors and actresses are better. It’s the self-taught e-celeb VAs whose only exposure to media is anime that are the problem. Even then however, there’s a fundamental problem that more “moe” style anime and female performances especially don’t translate well into English. It leads to the female English VAs doing baby voices because the loud and high pitched voices you see in a lot of CGDCT anime only sound right in Japanese.
>>738866163You misunderstand.
>>738863040>I could hardly stomach it my first playthrough of Armored Core 6 and it made me hate the character Walter for reasons unrelated to his in-game actions. Switch to JP immediately if you play AC6.What the fuck... I'm at around N2 Japanese atm and even back when I couldn't understand shit I was always going for the JP audio but AC6 is the one piece of media where I prefer the EN dub and to this day is my only exception. I also want to add they nailed the voice direction for every souls game and most of the voice actor picks are excellent but since those don't come with a JP audio they're not exactly valid comparisons (though I have a feeling I'd keep them in EN even if they came with JP dubs) with the only exception being Sekiro, I truly believe anyone that played it in EN is a legit subhuman- not only it's comically over the top (thinking of Gyobu here) but who the fuck wants to hear english in a Japanese setting?AC6 though is fantastic, don't see what you could hate about it unless you can't understand the JP side and as a result it sounds more mysterious to your ears. I am gonna give you that Walter does sound better in JP and other stuff here and there like Snail's scream is probably better executed in the og but I find Ayre and Carla incredibly basic bitch-y in JP (you could make the argument she's basic in EN too and I wouldn't disagree but Carla is way different) and Michigan sounds like the JP version of a tryhard american potrayed in this very thread, the EN version has far more personality. Even Snail despite having the better scream, for the most part is mostly like a passive aggressive twink instead of the arrogant corpo overlord that he comes out as in the EN dub.If you prefer the JP audio is one thing but calling the EN version bad is just travesty.
>Erm, EMNGLISH DUB? Yikes.The Japanese dialog in Evangelion gave me permanent hearing damage. Fuck (You), 98% of Japanese voice acting is just high-pitched shrill screaming.
>>738861668They did this for kingdom hearts. The voice actor grew up and his voice changed between entries. That's the risk.
>>738866418calling evangelions voice acting bad is definitely a take of all time
I only play games for the voice acting. The most recent games with good voice acting I can think of are FF Tactics, Expedition 33 and Indiana Jones and the Great Circle.Anime games almost always have horrible voice acting.
>>738866373>It leads to the female English VAs doing baby voices because the loud and high pitched voices you see in a lot of CGDCT anime only sound right in Japanese.that's because moeshit is pure, unadulterated autism that "people" only watch because it's in another language which hides the cringe
>>738866425Nobody complained about Harry Potter growing up. The fans grow with their game/movie heroes. 30 year old men were not the Kingdom Hearts target audience.
I find it funny every time this debate comes up because dubfags have to learn to cope that they have the inferior opinion and lesser taste in performances. It’s like they actually believed anyone here watches anime “ironically” or as a joke
Japanese is a sincerely annoying sounding language.
>>738866425>>738864254So we HAVE TO be stuck with adult women doing a stupidly forced voice? Just because "oh no, the child will grow up one day and won't be able to do the same voice". That's not really a good argument for having absolutely dogshit voice acting.Also, if you're doing future sequels then figure it the fuck out. "The child will grow up one day so we won't hire them" is such a retarded fucking argument of the "why live when you'll die one day" tier.
>>738866668No, you are suooosed to switch to the Jo actors and get the better performance
>>738866479Oh and I forgot about Hades.
>>738862405>another loser fooled by british accentsWell, explain this. Why did this cunt retire at 30 and was unable to get work leading up to that?
>>738866475>Take of all timeGo back.
>>738866795faggot, you need to go back. you are literally on the website created to talk about evangelion
>Certainly is one of the takes of all timeGo. Back.
>>738866836Japanese voice acting sounds good because you don't know what they're saying. All the emotions are completely fucked in anime, I don't know if it's because Japanese people don't show emotions at all in real life. You're just used to the voices because you have heard them when you were a child.
>>738860469It's annoying. They're trying to sound like "anime" characters instead of acting. Rather than fully getting into character and believing what they're saying. A lot of the new ones are also trying or are told to emulate all those old funimation voices. The golden standard to me should be the DMC trio. They get fully into character and play it straight. And they pull off the what most US VAs fail at which is yelling. They sell their screams and grunts really well. And it's no coincidence that all three have worked on Power Rangers.https://youtu.be/CSBRP5S7rsI?https://youtu.be/S3vxTVmso7c?https://youtu.be/hS9mXAkHPQs?I really wish we got more insight into the VA directors for a lot of these games. Because ultimately they're the ones signing off on all the garbage.
I have a similar issue to western animated porn where the girl is getting destroyed and its the most mundane mmh or ahh like she's having a spa day.
>>738866215I think sometimes English VAs sound like they’re having too much fun. They don’t know how to be subtle or to tone their voices down. They all have to scream every line like they’re Goku. The female VAs aren’t any better, since they all have that ASMR roleplay voice that tries too hard to sound cute or seductive.>>738866513Can’t argue with that. Language barriers do wonders at masking horrific writing, or at least make said horrific writing more palatable to listen to.>>738866630Only if it’s being screamed shounen anime style. It’s the softest sounding Asian language, which makes it the easiest on the ears of the bunch — it’s like the French of Asia.
>>738866768Because she stopped looking like pedobait to hollywood jews and me too halted pay for play deals.
>>738867001>Japanese voice acting sounds good because you don't know what they're sayingthis is just not true and has never been true, you can recognize good voice acting without understanding the langauge. this goes for every fucking language on the planet. literally shit spouted by pseuds that want to feel better about themselves for being insecure about being monolingual
>play shitty Japanese game>all their characters act like ADHD, cootsy wootsy children.>Surprise Pikachu face when English dubers all voice act like fucking retards.Stop playing bad games.
>>738866795Cringe, sweaty. Be a better man. :3
>>738866768because the combine harveyster got ousted and she was known for being insufferable to work with.
>>738864691anon they have infrastructure for this voice shit. Its literally next level voice acting. Not just some person you picked up from the street
>>738867083The point is that dumb fuckers like you will hear a British accent and think it's good acting because "muh thaeaeaeaetre," allowing her and Sean Bean to be in movies when they have no fucking business being in them.>>738867142And a shitty actress.
>>738867027That or they just start talking and cursing like it's League match for no reason.
>>738862401I liked english Ringabel
>>738867001It sounds good because they are the pinnacle, premier example of voice acting and every other region is desperate to catch up due to the constant mogging
>>738867197don't ask questions if you won't like the answers. Just state your opinion and go from there, rather than trying this gay little theatre
>>738862401i genuinely cannot take tiz seriously in the english dub cause i just think of makoto and nagito
>play the sims>this grou is frenchey!>Coom coom calouw la coom coom calouw.>Hey gahbadachia!
>>738867289Japanese voice acting is terrible.
>character has a cool voice in the sub>give him a dumb gimmick voice in the dub>somehow still nails serious momentsI don't know how they made a Joe Pesci impression into a real perfomance, but they found a way. If only they used the japanese OST.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ONnnQVlOqc
>>738866479>I only play games for the voice acting
>play Crimson Desert>random fucking quest NPCs have better voice acting than actual named characters in american dubbed gamesIt's fucking unreal, I cannot believe it
>>738867001this line of defense doesn't even make sense cause it never considers fake languages
>>738867326>actually spelled it with "re"You're not American, and therefore you don't count.
>>738867416Says who? Third rate British theater actors struggling to catch up?
>>738867041French is the gayest sounding language in human history.
>>738860469>play modern vidya>hear basedllenial western female>day ruined
>>738867437I'm an actor. I think playing games is mostly a waste of time and voice acting is the only reason I do it. Sorry.
>>738867416Nobody has ever been able to explain this opinion without stating conplete falsehoods. I know enough japanese to understand verbage choices and such snd still think its better.
>>738867552English is. Why do you think we Americans mock people who speak it?
>>738867476Christ man, all this over nobody playing ball with whatever script you had in your head?Just type it out here, I won't judge what you were expecting.
>>738860469me when Laura Bailey is the female protagonist and Troy Baker or Yuri Lowenthal is the male protagonist
>>738867597Even if you don't understand the language>subtitle gives you the gist of what they're saying>you can hear emotion in words you don't actually understand>>738867635>non-American seething because he got called out for being poor
>>738867416Based. I can tolerate the male voices, but the female ones make me want to rip their vocal chords out and shove them up their sweet juicy cheeks.
>>738867001Acting is acting regardless of language. I enjoy Genshin in chinese while I don't find the performances nearly as good in Honkai Star rail despite many VAs being shared.
>>738867647Troy has some crazy range though.
>>738860752That's what happened when the only "training" these new people have is just what they listened to growing up.
i could not imagine any english voice actor ever reaching the levels of the voice acting in umineko
>>738866768Her work dried up because she was known for one extremely famous role, let the ego from that success go to her head and then burned her bridges.>>738867197British actors get such a good rep because a lot of them worked in theatre, and also many GOAT actors like Christopher Lee came from the UK.
>Uhmm... 'murrica Nope, French is.
>>738867597Watching anime with subs doesn't teach any meaningful amount of Japanese, you weeaboo faggot.
>>738867687Japanese acting is over acting. They used to have Kurosawa directing films and now they have jackshit.
>>738866479>FF TacticsThat's because they didn't hire the usual cabal of NA VAs and went for UK.
>>738866425Kingdom Hearts is an anamoly, it takes a half to two decades to release a game. Of course that shit would happen. On top of the story and setting that emphasizes on being eternally youths
>>738867687I don't know how else to put it, but the excessive amount of "h" sounds in Chinese feels like gravel on my ears. Completely put me off of interacting with anything originally made in that language.
>>738867805Miike is what Kurosawa wanted to be.
>>738867704He still sounds like a dub actor trying emulate a better performance to me.
>>738867565What the fuck are you doing in /v/ then?And why the hell would you play videogames for the voice acting when english voiceacting is a cabal of underpaid amateur dogshit in 99% of the cases?The best VAs are either dead or don't work on anything anymore.
>>738867805>over actingYeah yeah sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci8dIpNcyEYJapanese voice acting sounds like this too.
>UK schizo still pretending they are on the same level as premium seiyuu They’ll never measure up to their Japanese betters friend
>>738867762Some English voice actors from the UK, possible. Anywhere else no, America? Big kek no.
>>738866425Yes, but the character also got older so it made sense to sound like he went through puberty. You don't want to cast a kid as Bart Simpson and have him not age in 30 years. It works fine if you only want one project with that character at that age.
>>738867849I used to hate listening until I got used to it. Same for JP.
>>738866768She was difficulty to work with and by most accounts didn't really enjoy acting, so she quit
>>738865972They didn't retire Dragon Ball when its creator died, they replaced Bulma and they WILL replace Granny Goku with her approved understudy she is hiding.
>>738867795Correct thats why I took japanese language in college you doublefaggot
>>738867921>t. only ever watched action shounen series and never progressed into better genre
>>738867901>The best VAs are either dead or don't work on anything anymore.Except my wife.
>>738868012THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO SAY
i remember when dubfags didn't exist on 4chan
>>738862797Friendly reminder that all the union heads that are gatekeeping jobs and pulling this shit were scabs back in the 90's-00's.
>>738867901>The best VAs are either dead or don't work on anything anymore.Or got pushed out by the stupid special union club.
>>738868030Post some
>>738868110>nerd can readokay nerd
>>738867936he's right though, UK actors do tend to be better
>>738861079this is true because western society has made it if you raise your voice, you are assaulting someone or people ask if you are okay all the time.You have to go to church and sing in the choir in order to develop the chops.
>>738868110I can remember when they did
>>738868129SoLRomcom Mecha I grew out of Japanese capeshit around the same time I grew out of western capeshit at about 12 years old
>>738862129Teen Titans Robin voice actor is great as Robin, but shit at everything else... Because he's just doing his Robin voice.
>>738861636This is a mindset that is just as immature as always using dubs.
>playing with EN dub
>>738868235Hmm maybe passingly equal to below par compared to JP voice actors
>>738860469Is this a natural voice that girls actually have or do vtubers and voice actors drop the Alvin and the Chipmunks voice and talk like a regular person when the cameras are off? It feels way too fake, I don't even think actual little girls speak like that.
>>738866768No Big Harv; No jobs.
>>738868304It’s the same thing when Jennifer hale Steve Blum mark meer and Nolan north got memed to the point where people thought they sounded good
>>738868435It's fake for a lot of them. Listen to the average twitch streamer and hear how they play up their voice.
>>738868452That shows she was just a cock sleeve, and not an actress.
>>738860469The original japanese directors tell the dub people they have to sound like that. As close to the japanese VA as possible. Either way, I don't do dubbed in JRPGs if possible. There's always an option to switch in the options.
>>738868542>Jennifer haleI think her Bastila voice is great
>>738868041>tfw BioWare were originally planning to make Tali bisexual, but they didn’t because her VA refused to do lesbian scenesShe’d get cancelled for this if the game came out today.
>play a game released in 90s to early 00s>instantly treated to iconic voice actingwhat went so wrong
>>738868624lol based dyke blocker
>>738868571>The original japanese directors tell the dub people they have to sound like thatBrother the issue is that they usually never interact with the original JP director. A lot of the time they work through a 3rd party dub studio with a director who's just doing a 9-5..
>>738868665they needed the job, now the cabal is guaranteed the job
>>7388623094kids has better voice acting than this shit era of anime dubs
>>738868571>The original japanese directors tell the dub people they have to sound like that.what lmfao? this does not happen what so ever
>>738868665English dubs for Japanese games the 90s and 2000s were even worse than they are now. Nowadays, we’re complaining about everyone sounding the same and having no nuance in the performance, but most 90s and 2000s performances were Tommy Wiseau-tier. Kingdom Hearts was one of the rare exceptions were the dub was way better than the Jap audio, but that’s only because they hired Hollywood A-listers and Disney VAs.
>>738868542They are capable of doing good voices.Meer in particular has great range when he's allowed. The problem is a combo of directors saying>do the X voice!or the actor just phoning it in and the director being too much of a doormat.
>>738868924>they are capable Have yet to see proof
>>738860752They're all copying Monica Rial.
>>738862401I thought he was perfectly fine
>>738860469>playing weebfag trash to begin withcouldn't be me
>>738862405it CAN be good but honestly outside of some standouts it is so hard to take seriously>oi i'm gonna kick your fanny, guv
>>738862771An American voices Iron Eye in Elden Ring: Nightreign and he does perfectly fine. Most english language games are voiced by americans because brits sound fucking goofy. Which to be fair, games like Fable take advantage of this.
>>738868624>>738868041
>>738869081Monica Rial getting casted as Bulma was such a blight on this industry.
>>738869163I grew out of western games about 20 years ago.
>>738869379Monica Rial, Jessica Calvello, Tara Strong, Cam Clarke, and all that other garbage need to be launched into the sun.
>>738869612>tara strong Yuck
>>738860469>male voices sound so forced it feels like the VA just trying so hard to sound "cool">female voice sound so grating it comes out as cringe>Pax Armata's commander's voices for some reason sound like a jeet that constantly got shoved into the lockerwho the fuck directed this game's VA?
>>738864867This guy would be a better VA then the unionized assholes from LA.
>suh-WHORE-eegood god, what happened to Atlus dubs post P5?
what's up with the tourists here
>>738869764Take me back to the BF3+4 and earlier.
>>738866397AC6 doesn't show human faces. Without any faces, the voice actors do not have to match lips in a scene. This makes it a whole lot easier to do and say what they want to capture a character.
>used to be a megaweeb>prefer JP voice acting over EN>finally go out of my way to learn japanese, properly with classes and voice coaches and shit>watch anime after>mfw realizing its literally the same as overacted EN dubs just japaneselearning japanese is a fucking mistake dont do it
>play rivals in japanese>sounds like a cool anime instead of just a marvel quipfestthat's all there is to it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07QQncy8yVMname me ONE english actor that can talk to herself as 3 different characters off the cuff and be convincing NO ONE in america can do this type of shit, because America doesn't tale voice acting seriouslyin japan voice actors are as respected as any hollywood actor, they usually dub the same hollywood actor in every moviethey have full time voice acting schools where senior actors teach multiple different classes all about voice actingsenior actors also personally train understudies to fill it for them if they can't do the job anymorethey do drills with their voice every day to keep their chops, they use their voice like a musician uses their instrument, or like a singer does, they take it very very seriously and are extremely professional and put 110% into every single performance whether it's for a high budget production or some random direct to dvd hentaithey have no shame or hangups about their work, meanwhile american faggots are embarrassed to voice cartoon characters and think everything is offensive, as if American multimedia culture and even anime itself wasn't built off the back of fucking walt disney cartoonsthere are some genuinely good voice actors in america, but they aren't dubbing video games and anime, and the very very few that do cannot overcome how fucking dogshit the industry for it in this country is
>Modern californian white women voiceI turn the game off and demand a refund when I see this. I haven't been satisfied with a AAA purchase since Elden Ring.
>>738869612what the fuck is wrong with cam clarke? He is barely in anything mainstream anyway
>>738869612Cam Clark and Tara Strong are interesting choices considering that their most iconic roles have nothing to do with anime (Cam’s being Liquid Snake and Tara’s being either Harley Quinn or Twilight Sparkle depending on who you ask). As such, I don’t really think of them as anime VAs.
>>738870098Tara Strong
>>738870120>Modern californian white women voice>on a ebony model npc
>>738870098Another difference that's undervalued is that a lot of JP VAs can sing. With many anime having characters songs and endings sung by said VAs. Goes hand in hand with how UK VAs have experience singing in theater.
>>738860752Its gotten to the point where I don't even consider it acting. It's more of an imitation of what they think voices are supposed to be. Why are most of them in the soprano range? Where are the mezzo girls at?
>>738870293I wish more directing info was public. Because you have lot of cases like Matt Mercer where they all just make him try to sound like Troy Baker.
>>738862201whom?
>>738870235A lot of Tara Strong’s roles are very similar. She’s always typecast as either kooky, eccentric girls, kids or bimbos. Her role as Twilight in MLP is a rare exception where she broke typecasting, and she’s taking up multiple spaces on that grid.
>>738870278>Californians can be btfo'd by just putting up a "must be able to sing" requirement
>Brit VAs are no goodHere is proof that you're wrong.4 minutes, still images, and an amazing VA set the scene and atmosphere for you to delve into the Elden Ring.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BnZhJg91RQ
>>738870293>Where are the mezzo girlsI feel like a lot of “respectable” actresses who actually have range and variety go into movies, TV and theatre. It seems to me like English dub actresses are just former cam girls and ASMR creators who are all doing the same voice. I actually feel like people don’t talk enough about how alot of female VAs nowadays only have experience from ASMR roleplays that lonely people get off to at night.
>>738860469I once made the mistake of playing Torchlight: Infinite (which actually has nothing at all to do with Torchlight, they just slapped the name on there for branding purposes), and it had you paired up with a character who looked like a grown ass woman, but had a voice that sounded more suited for a talking cat.
>>738860752They have the same voices, they always have that sarcastic forced voice over.
>>738866768>Said no to the jews, secretly got blacklisted.This is what happens when you breakaway or be independent from them.
>>738865476Not much, how about you?
>>738864691Don't compare the shit show that is westoid voice acting with Japan
>After two days of recording high-intensity battle shouts, Kiefer Sutherland told Gary Oldman, "Man, I haven't shouted this much since I was married".
>>738861371But this is the "male" anime voice and while we don't like it we only focus on the females.
>>738860469I always play with dubs. The fact that it makes weeb trannies shit and piss themselves for some weird reason is just a little bonus for me.
>>738860469>They should actually do my *suave* casanova deep voice mmhhh yeah~
>>738861663Spanish as in what spanish? There are 3 spanish dubs.
>>738871625I think the mistake Youtubers do with voice acting is that they don't have the "acting" part of voice acting. Yong Yea does it too, he thinks just because he can mimick a deep voice that it's magically somehow acting.
MORE games need LESS voice actingall full voice acting does is make your game 10 times more expensive!!just hire VAs to do a handful of grunts like morrowind/fire emblem and the rest be text!!!or do banjo-kazooie noises! they even work in other languages like chulip!!!!!!!!!! FUCK
>>7388688174kids at least had variety in their vocal performances. They gave us southern accent King Dedede so they're okay in my book
>>738868542>Steve Blumokay but it was really funny when they put his voice in Neon White
>>738869980vidya truly were peak when women and SJWs didn't invade the development teamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDauDMppn6chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Qpu0YaiLE
>>738862674>o're y'ur rd'ex!It should have been me that married her.
>>738870098>name me ONE english actor that can talk to herself as 3 different characters off the cuff and be convincingseth mcfarlane
>>738861636>>It's only better because you can't understand it!!!was always a bullshit argument, voice acting (and acting in general) are about emotion, you can tell when someone is just phoning it in regardless of what language they're speaking.
>>738863213>SFEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN
>>738860469https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us9pbwNmKeI
>>738871843Maybe you want then my "yehhh what's up doc?" reddit style.
>>738860752Why don't anime English dubs get theater actors to voice act for their English dubs? I will never understand this as it would make English dubs be viewed in a positive light if they did.
>>738870235this jewess is so hot. those tits grace my dreams.shes super nice too.
>>738872335Because the same dub actors have control on who gets casted and who doesn't. They wouldn't let that money go to actual talent.
>>738872335They're all friends with each other. They're probably furious with how Jennifer English and Ben Starr have all the attention now.
>>738860469Not as egregious as shriveling, nasal le kawaii animu voice v-tubers use and people listen to those bitches for hours on end. I don't understand how can simps watch an animated avatar of what is most likely a hambeast behind it everyday, let alone give money to them.
>your friend is making a video game>asks you to voice act in it>play like half of the characters in the game>get a BAFTA award for best actor
>>738861663Hey, sometimes it works.....or at least it did 30 years agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vig-nlKn_dghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcMWWaIvg08
>>738872335They did this for FFXII and everyone said they talk like fart sniffing fags
>>738873301FFXII was way ahead of its time, but unfortunately, a lot of FF fans hated it because it wasn’t weeb enough.
>>738860469>the Anime voiceI hate that I know exactly what this sounds like and it's fucking awful. Why can't English voice actors just talk in a normal voice like they do in other games such as GTA, Witcher, BG3, etc?
>>738872949The best part being that Jennifer English and Ben Starr are theatre actors who also happen to love vidya. Ben Starr in particular is a massive FF fanboy, so it was probably a dream for him to get to voice in both an FF game AND an FF spiritual successor.
>>738862101this sounds just as overacted and cringe as anime voiceswhy do people pretend this is somehow good?
>>738873523Jennifer got into games only after she was in them few years ago. Ben plays a lot of games. I like them both though.
>>738872335They used to. The first Evangelion English dub from 1996 used theatre actors and then Netflix redubbed it with typical C-list LA clique anime dub actors.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_l1pZPMcYoTbh I've begun miss US Southern dubs where they got people off the street.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzDmRlkwN6Y
>>738873410A couple reasons:1. Weebs are so used to it that “normal” acting feels weird to them.2. These actors are all self-taught and mimic other English dubs of anime.3. Modern anime tends to have very exaggerated body language, so they have to be at least a bit hammy and campy for it to fit.
>>738864867
>>738873656Netflix has to redub everything because they don't own the rights to the dubs. Their redubs are fucking awful though. I saw them once redub like 100 episodes of a show with like 7 actors.
>>738863835Nah, the voices put Xenoblade on the map.
>>738870549https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbYYUTLOfm8This guy was great too. Not even mad they made him Irish
My argument for not needing to understand the language to understand if the voice acting is good or not is Hollow Knight and Silksong. It’s just gibberish and it’s excellent. There’s a wide range of voices and personalities despite the actors not being allowed to say anything more comprehensible than “Benny Frank”.
>>738870126>hasn't watched the Ocean Akira dub>hasn't played Rise of the Dragon on Sega CD
>>738870098>NO ONE in america can do this type of shitCharlie Adler literally did this in nearly every episode of Cow and Chicken. He voiced the protagonists Cow and Chicken and the antagonist, The Red Guy, and most episodes have scenes where the three characters interact with each other exclusively.
>>738874068The words do not actually matter in dialogue. People say things they do not mean all the time.
>>738870145>Cam’s being Liquid SnakeYes, that's Cam's most well known role. Liquid Snake. That's his most iconic role. That's the one.
>>738870098Troy Baker was Batman and Joker in thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFyosJG_15M
>>738874339What else would the "L" stand for if not "Liquid"?
>>738874420Sue "Lightning."
>>738860752https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci8dIpNcyEY
I am hiding this thread because the image of the bleeding ear is gross. Have a good day.
>>738874046>This guy was great too. Not even mad they made him IrishReminds me of the Vindictus remake. Since the game is loosely based on Celtic mythology they made everyone in the alpha play test Irish. Really strange considering most Korean to English dubs I've heard sound almost like a computer generated American English voice robotically reading the script.
>>738861685>that weird fat faced asian freakProZD, right?
>>738860469Here's a good video if anyone wants.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdAfcr9WIcQA nice 11 minute listen as to why English dubs fucking sucktl;dw they're trained wrong
>>738874838>11 minutesShorten it by 10 minutes and 54 seconds and I'll watch.
>>738874912English voiceovers are done mostly by a Los Angeles clique who like to dumb down performances to be more "realistic" and they all circlejerk each other into thinking their bland performances are actually really good. Outside listeners think it sucks, because it does.
>>738874838The first lesson I ever took the teacher said that I had to learn how to speak properly without accent. Now that accent is the reason I get hired.
>>738875039But is it because those voice actors suck, or because they're being forced to do things that are inhumane and cruel to expect of voice actors? I'd bet on the former.
>>738860469>play modern vidya>pick japanese dubfeels good
>>738875107>inhumane and cruel to expect of voice actorsIf I'm paying some schmuck $200 an hour to read some paper, I'm gonna expect some emotional effort, not some smarmy pedestal elitism like they know better than the director
>>738862319>I thank the lord we have a JAP voice option on every Japanese game by nowstill malding that Bamco didn't added it to the Switch/PS version of the new Everybody's Golf
>>738860469>Switch to English >It's actually an improvement
>>738864867unironically, Brazilian and spanish dubs are better than english dubs. They also have more VAs than America do btw.
>>738875298Name 3
>>738875428Golden BoyDragonballJackie Chan
If something is dubbed then most of the time it will be bad. The original language is how it's meant to sound.
>>738860469>play a modern vidya>using vtubers as voice ""actors""Never refunded a game so fast before
>>738875298Metal Gear Solid is so good. But only the first Solid game.
>>738860469>watch nu-porn>porn actress does the ahegao face
>>738860469>see vtuber tranny thumbnail on twitch or some shit>1m viewers>click>"AIIIIIIEEEEEEE" *literal sonic weapon blasts through my head phones*>Instantly take headphones off, edges of vision become dark - ears bleeding>cough blood, suddenly my dick shrinks into my groin and I lose ten inches of height>hands move on their own, opens Amazon and orders skirts and thigh-high socksWhy is the CIA doing this?
>>738875214That's the point. Western VAs are bitches, and they're not very good to begin with.
SPEENLEEEESEN TO MEEE
Most voice directors now are voice actors from the 00's. And they will hire their friends. But think about it this way, would you rather hire your friend who you know can deliver or hire someone completely new who may be terrible.
>>738875214>$200 an hourMaybe adopt the German model; pay €50 for turning up then €1 per line. Scales with the scope of the job.
>>738875573That's what you get for watching western failed prostitutes on Twitch. My pure, filthy jomon whore could never.
>>738863835XB1's fine. Main cast and the badguys did good at least. The dubs for the rest of the series are trash though.
>>738875850Hate the Americans coopting this. It was alright before Dawntrail
i hate english anime voice so fucking much but have no problem with japanese anime voice
>>738875551Kenzie Reeves going cross eyed is the sexiest thing ever.
>>738874515thanks, I was waiting for it to get posted
>>738874515spot on
>>738860469It only works in Japanese, never in English, they should just speak in a cute and bubbly voice instead not the retarded "uwuuu I'm so cuuuute and kawaaiiii" shit, leave that to the Japanese dub, it doesn't sound natural with an English voice actor when its clear they are just pushing for to mimic something that doesn't come naturally. That's why I always play in Jap-Dub over cringe English.
>>738877020>uwuuu I'm so cuuuute and kawaaiiiihttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/LlN_TAqBTGc
I don't know if "anachronistic" is the correct word to use but I'll just use it to say thatcalling it 'anime voice' is a bit anachronistic, seeing as how the root issue with anime voice is a sort of intonation bastardized from English theater. Anime timbres usually suck, for sure, but it's an extra rotten cherry on top.English theatrical intonation is in itself usually fine (when its done by the English), but you can hear its bastardization as far back as the 1940s in things like American films.Lots of people here are familiar with TV shows from the Star Trek franchise.I'd just point to things like Star Trek, TNG, DS9, and VOY as exemplars of the sort of 'anime voice' that people are complaining about. The Doctor on VOY is particularly egregious.
>>738877184https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YthM-hM-2-0its fucking real man, its cringe. (indie b-slop but still, the Japanese dub has zero of these quality issues.)
>>738877302>the musicTinfins is real.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoShDwTNbnM
>>738877020It's because the culture is too different. Dubs shouldn't really exist or they should be just for little kid's shows where they cannot read.War is the reason why stuff still gets dubbed today.
>>738873094in my humble yet righteous opinionvtumer are better at voice acting then every single one of those hack faggots so called actress
>>738860469>play a modern vidya>hear a soft Scottish/Welsh/Irish/British female voice
>>738871943More games need gibberish voice acting, though when I think of that kind of style my mind usually thinks of games like E.Y.E Divine Cybermancy or 40K: Mechanicushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orMQM0Lajc0
>>738876008>just alrightAll the villains were phenomenal, plus some outliers like count Edmont or Feo Ul. Can't think of a single good DT performance
>>738877371True, dubs are never good just like other forms of conversions, its like Live Action, some shit just doesn't look visually appealing in Live Action when its supposed to be overtly dramatic and stylized which is the selling point. Usogui is an example of this, no amount of money can make the ridiculous gambles and violence work on a silver screen or home cinema, its all about prolonged tension of the gambles and that only works in serialized formats for example.
>>738875428Golden BoyExcel SagaHellsing
It feels like english speaking VAs and mostly american ones don't care that much about end result. Like often times they don't even pretend to make an effort and make their voice sound better, it's always just normal. Where's the acting part in voice acting?
>>738877962>Excel SagaFuck you. Jessica Calvello needs to be burned at the stake. Mitsuishi Kotono is pure sex.
>>738861242I genuinely have no idea how people play nip games with eng dubs. Persona 4 for instance has really established seiyuus like Horie Yui, Kugimiya Rie, Koshimizu Ami, Ishizuka Unsho, etc etc. Then you switch to English and it's terrible literally whos + Troy Baker.
>>738878249Nah the OG VA is goated and nails how annoying excel isThey're both good though so maybe that was a bad example
>>738878274I hate listening to a language I can't understand, subbed or not. It's not a movie.
>>738878274I really like Troy, but I understand why people hate him. I just can't do it because he was a massive influence on me becoming an actor.
>>738873301The dub itself was fine, the issue was that squeenix was adamant on releasing the game on PS2, so they had to compress the audio in order to fit the game in a 4.7GB DVD. Mind you that we had dual layer DVDs already with double the capacity, but that would cost them like 0.00001 cents more per copy, which apparently would financially ruin them.
>>738878376The Japanese female voice is just so much more pleasant on the ear than the California Millenial Vocal Fry.
>>738877769my n'wha
>>738877769Wish there were more authentic Scottish voices in media.Got this in my YT recs, the woman on the right is hothttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGbZ0wwBmgE
>>738875298I get youtube recommendations for kaguya dub pretty often, tried to listen one or two times and it was a slightly different but mostly the usual american style of voice acting and by saying american style I mean normal voice but people were praising it in the title and comments. I guess it's because english is their primal language so they don't really care or didn't even try to listen jp voice because why would they? Like some normal guys who don't even watch anime but someone recommended them to watch kaguya and they enjoy it.If it's not obvious enough jp voice is like 10 times better in comparison. I want to say it's not because of good voices but effort but that's not true, it's a combination of both because only the best VAs who consistently perform at the top of their abilities can have so many roles in different shows. There's no reason to hire "someone" other than the top dog but somehow it doesn't work in american VA industry. Where's the competition where quality beats quantity?
>>738862405Shitish accents are the worst part of dubs.
>>738878598Starmer is a wanker! Starmer is a wanker! He's a leftist communist, a kike to the boot! Kick him out with his paki crew too!
>using this anime voice>esl complaining about english dubsShut the fuck up.
Original voices are always better.https://files.catbox.moe/uhj3qn.mp4
>>738877769Most Scottish women don’t have soft voices.t. Scot
>>738878954>THE NOOZLE!>THE NOOZLE AT THE END OF THE HOOSE!
>>738870278>That Yakuza guy got clowned on so hard they hired a second guy to do the songs for him.
>>738878772ESLs aren't bound by their first language so it's opinion that's based on quality of voice acting and has nothing to do with the language itself, there's no bias.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-IGmtChxoE
>>738878249apthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QyioMu3jvg
>>738878954That's why you go up north towards Inverness, you filthy lowlander
>>738878772>you must love our dub and the way we localize our content (which affects your content) or else you are ESL trash and needs to be erased!Fuck you man, get your priorities straight: nobody enjoys the English dub, you see other cultures enjoy watching the in the original voice over with subs that are accurate not some made up fan fiction made maliciously to push some queer agenda. You are the subversive ESL kike nigger from Commiefornia who wants everyone else to enjoy your kool-aid: It doesn't fly outside of your safe bubble and gated community, you will be found out and you will find out nobody respects your kind.
>>738878954Head up to the Shetlands/ Orkneys. They've got very soft voices. Glasgow lasses have very harsh accents, still absolutely would a red headed pale skinned lass no matter how harsh her accent, literally my dream girl.
>>738860469KYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>738861636>that fag mafia they call a union gave us.They call it a guild, and it's a guild, not a union.
>>738875107it’s because they suck, and also their genetics suck (voices sound bad)>t. I had dinner with a good voice actor one time
>>738879064fucking kek, I loved this video toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3gABQ1cWhM>OII NIGGA-AHH
>>738870079>used to be a megaweeb>prefer JP voice acting over EN>finally go out of my way to learn japanese, properly with classes and voice coaches and shit>watch anime after>mfw realizing its literally better than EN dubs learning japanese is a great thing, do it
>>738879225It's got Guild in the name and it is a guild but those in it will keep gaslighting folk otherwise
>>738879225Its not a guild if it monopolizes and prioritizes politics over quality of work and providing job opportunities for all. Unions are leftist scum like those that gatekeep jobs for non-Union members. Guilds are based and Trad right wing approved, Unions are leftist cancer and deserve to be destroyed.
>>738879461>n-no u
>>738877769The funniest thing about Scots is realizing midway through a sentence that they're speaking English.
>>738874838tl;drhe's saying that american (LA) voice actors (who also do every single dub) are a bunch of faggot mafia who brainwashed young upcoming talents to be as faggots as them (act like you are
>>738860469>watch english dub anime with normalfag cousins one time>all the female characters sound the samewtf is this
>>738861242>friend convinces me to try an anime gacha game>I automatically set voices to Japanese because the american VA:s are so inept at sounding anime-esque>Tell him I like a certain character's voice>he says he doesn't get it>Say that it's because I'm using JP voices and recognize a talented famous VA>says he prefers english voices>ask him why>"because I'm american and I like understanding what I'm hearing!"lol'd>tell him that JP voice actors are more serious about their art and often do a better, more consistent job, while english (with the help of localizers) constantly bastardize the creator's intent>tell him that JP VA also do a better job at sounding like the character they play as>"I don't care, they sound too young and squeaky">tell him that the english VA voicing a child character sounds like a 35 yo smoker>he agrees but says he's fine with it>calls me a weaboo>literally got called a weaboo by a guy playing and recommending an anime game to me
I wish they'd stop using English dubs for every single trailer. Anytime there's a "world reveal" or something for a Japanese game I can't even fully enjoy it.(They should actually stop using "dubtitles" too and knock $10 off the price of the game, where anyone who really wants to play JRPGs voiced by literal trannies from California can purchase it as DLC. Instead of increasing the price and size of the game for unnecessary garbage)
>>738879616Racist Lorry Driver detected
>>738879769The worst is when the women sound like valley girls.>like, I TOTALLY think you're like the cutest, Koshiro!>*gum smacks*
>>738879705yep and he's not wrong, same with the fucking dragonbaby translation group as well as their parent group and that one that had the "yaks" name, they are all promoting hacktivists to do jobs to destroy the industry.
>>738879705It's also a circle jerking clique that doesn't try to match the original VAs but think they know better.
>>738879887>Lorry>lorry>fucking lorry>LORRYLearn to speak American.
>>738879887you should've have just said "based middle class, working class appreciator detected." no need to twist words.
>>738879962Americans are the root of the problem with the modern world
There's this overly breathy voice that most English """"voice actors"""" do that pisses me off once I started noticing it. I think Grace from RE9 talks in it a little bit, but it's a lot more prevalent in games that were originally in Japanese and dubbed in English.
>en dub>actually uses various actors from around the world to represent different regional accents in game lore>doesnt exist in other languages
>>738879819The casual is a curious and confusing creature.
canada had some great anime voice actors at one time. ocean studios dubbing comes to mind.
>>738879043>play as a Japanese Chad>this gook faggot's low t, high e voice comes outI get only subhumans would play Yakuza dubbed, but genuinely what went into making this casting decision?
>>738869612>Cam ClarkeDude's fucking old and has been voice acting since the 80s.>>738874238>the Ocean Akira dubYou mean the Steamline dub? Ocean never dubbed Akira, they were barely doing VA work in the 80s.>Rise of the Dragon on Sega CDProbably the most obscure thing he's ever done, far from mainstream.
>>738879043>hired a second guy to do the songs for himI never heard about this but of course Sega would do this rather than replace the guy lmao
>>738880260A lot of voice actors are getting work because of how many subscribers they have. The only people who deny this are the people getting hired for subs.
>>738880221yeah, although disco elysium was shit, they did a good job with coaching and picking their VAstheir next game looks really rough on that department tobedesu
>>738880398I was really sad to hear that he has AIDS, but he seems to be doing good despite it.
>>738879962>he doesn't knowPlay more games
>>738880472>A lot of voice actors are getting work because of how many subscribers they haveIt's the same shit for the very own movie actors hollywood keeps hiring, we literally have zendaya in almost all movies for the sole reason she has a lot of followers on instagram.
>>738880584>look it up>it's realDamn, I knew he was a fag, but I guess it's not surprising.
>>738880398It wasn't Streamline either. Kodansha themselves outsourced it to Wally Burr's studio that did Transformers, GI Joe, etc. Streamline only distributed the dub in the US.
>>738877769>>738860469>play a modern vidya>stereotypical FAT black woman is talking to you while throwing SHUGA in every other line
>>738879819Yeah you should've given up when you started preaching how serious the Japanese are in art. Look at who you're saying that to. The guy uses EN dubs. Care for art has never occurred in people like that
>>738880091We are the world. Everything outside is muff cabbage.>>738880586WRYYYYYYYYYYY
>>738880785https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxHohtWoQso
>>738875428Cromartie High SchoolYu Yu HakushoMad Bull 34https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqX3Gi3BIlQ
>>738880802Yeah I'm aware, people just call it the Streamline dub for convenience. Funny thing is that Carl Macek himself admitted the dub was shit on at least two occasions, once in 2010 right before he died, and another in 1991 at a con.https://youtu.be/5CpSfrXxHmc?si=cLfSvVIVuz8IU6r3&t=1466
>>738881082>Mad Bull 34Those Manga UK dubs are trashy but I always enjoy them. You should watch the UK dub of Kekko Kamen.https://archive.org/details/kekko-kamen-uk-dub-3-4
>>738862405>>738865551>>738869181https://youtu.be/ForAbhIWuBI
>>738879819>literally got called a weaboo by a guy playing and recommending an anime game to mecurrent year gachatroons has zero self awareness lol
>>738874515Entered this thread for this
>>738881040I really like Cam, he seems like a good guy.
>>738868817It's true. Their New Yorkers were superior to the Texans and Californians we're stuck with now.
>>738881370Manga UK dubs were honestly kino, though Kekka Kamen wasn't Manga, it was East2West.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILQ_pvI4AGI
>>738862401Speaking of Bravely Default, the voice for the kids in the mines was terrible.
>>738881819https://youtu.be/o2Q6AwrGUkQ
>>738875298>>738875465>>738877962>>738881082
>>738882345Golden Boy's kino, you're just a humorless nigger.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITRsqFdMF3k
>>738872335The original Xenoblade used theatre and tv actors, and they also had a voice director who knew what he was doing and showed the cast the cutscenes in Japanese so they knew what the mood of the scene was.
>>738879819You sound like a complete fag.
>>738882345YYH in Japanese is dogshit and you know it you fucking queer.
>>738874394>>738874239>>738872157>>738870235notice how these are all people who work exclusively on high budget american productions? none of these type of people dub games or anime because it pays like SHIT and has dogshit working conditions consuming dubbed japanese media is listening to literal dropouts of the industry who can't do any better to move up to better paying workwhy do you think the dubbing industry is so incestuous and terrible
>>738860752Isn't that just because the voice acting nepotists only hire each other? Every female voice in english dubbed game is going to have the same names>Cherami Leigh>Erica Lindbeck>Wendee Lee>Cristina Vee>Erica Mendez>Melissa Fahn>Cassandre Lee Morris>Carrie Keranen>Kira Buckland
RTS voice actors and Souls game english voices being theater actors still show me that english voice acting isn't completely gone but the massive endeavor to dub heavily japanese-coded games like Yakuza and then the necessity to hire a bunch of literal who's off of twitter for GACHA GAME DUBS expose how fucking non-existent the western dubbing scene is compared to Japan's actual voice acting industry.
>>738882863>English Only Nigger telling others what is dogshit.lol.
>>738882863I agree with some superior dubs over subs like Cromartie but nah, YYH plays in Japanese for me.I don't give a fuck about how funny you think it sounds, Kuwabara saying YOUR-A-MESHI is dumb as fuck.
>>738882785I don't care, I won't shut up about Japanese VA:s being betterI will admit that the west has come a long way in professional voice acting and tend to take asian media more seriously these days, but a lot of them still have innate disdain for anime games, especially women voice actors. You can practically hear it in their voice that they're just doing it for money.Meanwhile, they interviewed Wuthering Waves' Aemeath's Japanese voice actor and she was so in to the role that she literally asked the devs if she could improvise certain parts and give life to the character to make her sound more emotional and familial when speaking with the protagonist,This kind creative liberty is generally reserved for shitty localizers who don't ask for permission and who then forward their shitty edits to the american voice actors who often don't care about the character they're acting or the lines they're speaking.I'm sure if you asked any one of them what their favorite acting role was, they'd never say it was from an anime game
>>738883524>play a game with english voice actors>AND LO, THE ELF KING DICKLIPS OF QUEERSHIRE MADE THE BOLD CLAIM THAT THE MALES OF HIS RACE WERE THE GREATEST COCKSUCKERS IN ALL THE LAND>BUT THIS ANGERED THE ORC WARLORD HAIRBOTTOM OF FAGGENFELL DEEP>WARS RAGED ACROSS ALL THE GLORY HOLES IN THE LAND, WHERE NOT A COCK REMAINED UNSUCKITH>VERILY>PERCHANCE
DEATH TO ALL DUBS. ADAB (ALL DUBS ARE BASTARDS)
>>738883630>the west has come a long way in professional voice actingI'm pretty sure it's gotten worse.*Britbongs notwithstanding (usually)
>>738883630>but a lot of them still have innate disdain for anime games, especially women voice actors. You can practically hear it in their voice that they're just doing it for money.Western women more or less condemn moe and that alone makes the difference in delivery STAGGERING. Cute for the sake of being cute basically becomes an insult and veers to pedophilia because these VAs are probably the same type of people who cry about character ages.
Why doesn't Donald Trump's ear have any sign of an injury after the assassination attempt?
>>738883707Play Souls games in englishBut play Sekiro in japanese
>>738883873Or just play Pragmata.
>>738883907Nah, Pragmata in English has that anime cadence as well.
>>738883907I'm not really interested in Pragmata.
>>738877807>>738871943Nintendo games especially were better off when they just relied on gibberish for most voices.
>>738883980I didn't say play it in English. I just said play it.
>>738884052Stuff like The Sims using gibberish was weirdly unique and charming.
>>738883980Pragmata sucks nigger dicks on so many levels.
>>738884204It's the only decent game released this year. Maybe even in the last 5 years.
>new starfox remake has dogshit voice acting>japanese is way better (situation normal) >the cutscenes are animated to match the dogshit dubWHYWHY WOULD THEY DO THIS
>>738884182they wanted the game to use a language that wasn't "off-putting" to any one culture so they made Simlish. Its not gibberish, its a con-lang even if its not quite fully developed.
Why not actually post times that english dub actually elevated a game?
>>738875465Dragonball's dub got censored to shit btwLots of dialogue got rewritten
>>738884256they wanted to market to the global audiences and western glazing furries who only care about English and realistic animal-like characters they want to fuck because they are gay like that. The frog got the most fucked over by the art direction thoughbeit, its not even properly amphibian looking and just looks like a plastic funko-pop skin on it. Starfox and Sonic are more popular in west than Japan.
>>738884338Okay. Here's a list of those times:
>>738884338Why don't you?
>>738860469>using EN VA's
>>738884338>>738884413I like Metal Gear Solid and Silent Hill 2
>>738884338Mostly Capcom stuff for me, like Devil May Cry.
>>738884338FFXII had a fantastic dub and I will die on this hill.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjYDhjBgc78
>>738883595https://youtu.be/Blh5wXhy_pkThis scene is still peak though
>>738860469I don't understand the "anime dub actor" voice. It would sound 10 times better if they just did the normal voices. Voice acting exists in places outside of Japan, and even if they still wouldn't be as good as the Japan voice actors they'd still be significantly better than what they are now.
>>738884593Gideon Emery as Balthier was based
>>738884345Didn't they release a version of it without censorship though?
>>738860752It's all because of Cristina Vee. That voice stems from her, lol.
>>738884593Sounds a lot like >>738874515
>>738884708Ghibli films have top tier voice acting in english though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=658aukjP5G0
>>738860469The voice acting for Varyana in Diablo 4 is so cringe I refuse to use her as a mercenary
>>738861663Blasphemous spanish dub is top tier.
>>738884707ENG Kuwabara sounds too retarded for me.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo7R-JDHFTY
>>738884338
>>738861242My biggest issue with playing in Japanese is that "onii-chaaan!" voice that's like taking a fucking chainsaw to the ears. I fucking hate it more than any voice used by English VAs.
>>738884906She sounds like she smoked Lucky Strikes since the stone age.
>>738860469https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci8dIpNcyEY"anime" voice actors are pure cancer
>>738884338better yet, a japanese game where the English voice over is the actual original, and fucking GOODhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_dswoq1cEM
>>738885213Too bad that actress went wacko
>>738883817Yep, that's my point.They don't have the same openness to anime and most, whether it's out of ignorance or disdain, it doesn't matter.It's unprofessional and I guarantee if they weren't under NDA's or agreements to not shittalk their employers/products, they'd be seething on social media constantly about how "perv coded" or "cringe" the dialogue is that they've been "forced" to voice act
>>738885213>English voice over is the originalthat's not a dub retard. plenty of jap games have good english voice acting when it's the original audio.
>>738860752Its the Laura Bailey voice that you're describing. https://youtu.be/bEhbzMTwSIM?t=29
>>738884842shame ghibli films are so shitits 1/10 writing with 9/10 visuals ( the -1 is for same face art style)Hayao Miyazaki is ether senile or something, why they allow him to even write the movies? fucker cant string together 2 coherent scenes
I need moar Richard Ridingshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDEpJylRAsk
>>738885994Well I like them.
>>738872335This is why Ghibli gets good dubs, because they get actually good actors (Patrick Stewart, Mark Hamill, Christian Bale etc.) to do their movies, while also avoiding picking people just because they're celebrities.
>>738886127Meanwhile, Jada Pinkett in Princess Mononoke.
>>738884338Sometimes overacting has its place when you want to make something intentionally cheesy but not overly tongue in cheek.
>>738885994Miyazaki is Lovecraftesque, as he just shits his dreams and visions onto pages to mixed results. It's always interesting, but might not necessarily be good.
>>738886120i dontonlyt so much visual porn you can watch before it gets boring, and at some point i ask "wait, why is the plot so fucking shit?"
>>738865556Cowboy BebopCromartie High SchoolPanty and Stocking
>>738886913>not fapping to every word Megumi saysNIGGA YOU GAY
