"indie" is short for "independent"examples of indie:>Valve(self developed and self published)>Rockstar Games(self developed and self published)>Larian Studios(self developed and self published)>Toby Fox(self developed and self published)examples of poor:>Youstop saying "indie" when you want to say "poor"
independent means independent person if the game was made by more than 1 guy it's NOT indietrvke/threadfpbp
>>738860628based
>>738860504Indie is a short for India
>>738860504Ahh yes GTA 5 my favorite indie game
>>738860692But that's not shorter?
>>738860504>Larian Studios(self developed and self published)Tencent funded.
>>738860692and independent is long for india
>>738860628um, you cannot /thread your own post, newfag-kun...
>>738860892>he doesn't know
>>738860892that's the joke lad
>>738860504Rockstar is owned by take 2
>>738860504>ValveNot a dev, publisher, not indie>RockstarTake two>LarianTencent>TrannyOkYou are a fucking retard
>>738861351You don't know shit
>>738860504somehow people have taken indie to mean small studio that makes low budget games when we already have designations for budgetsA, AA and AAA are budget designations, indie doesn't fit into that at all basically there's no agreed upon definition of indie
>>738861520>while they are a subsidiaryIndie means independent.
>>738861617>basically there's no agreed upon definition of indieThe word really is short for independent.
>>738860504Nintendo independently developed smb, Capcom developed ffi fuck ""real"" indies
>>738861351>Valve>Not a devexcept for Half-Life, Left 4 Dead, Alien Swarm, Team Fortress, Portal, Counter-Strike & Ricochet
>>738861872>Except for 20 year old gamesSo not a dev
>>738860504>Rockstar Games(self developed and self published)Rockstar Games is owned by Take Two Interactive. Which part of "owned by another corporation" screams independent to you?
>>738861789yes but that's not how people use that term
>>738861938Deadlock isn't even out yet, that's a Valve game. In before "that game sucks you're a tranny waaah"
>>738861938>your dev license expires after X amount of time based retard also, they're literally developing Deadlock right now
>>738862073Terms still have established definitions.
>>738862092If internal dev teams count as the company then every publisher without a parent company is an indie by this retards metricsAlso Deadlock is not out yet, indeedAlso also it is goodAlso also also you are still a tranny
>>738860504>look at popular "indie" games>they're all published by an "indie" publisher>said "indie" publishers are all multimillion/billion dollar companies with ties to even bigger companies>also have huge marketing budgets and access to resources that most people couldn't even dream of>massively popular and regarded as an "indie gem made by a small poor team" (of 40-100 people from one of the richest cities in the world with a budget of millions of dollars)>look at actual indie games>made by like 4 guys>a budget of $30 and a case of beer>no marketing beyond a YouTube video and a Twitter post>ignored by everyone at best, people trying to actively ruin them at worstHuh.
>>738862325Huh? Is your assertion that indies are literally just solo or a couple of developer outfits that publish and fund their own games without any corporate structure above them?I don't even disagree with that, but that's not the argument you were making.Also, I suspect you're actually the tranny. People love to project their own identity in my experience, there's no way for you to know me well enough to assert what my gender identity is.
>>738860504Rockstar games aren't self published Take 2 who also owns 2k is their publisher.I bet you sure feel foolish for posting wrong information on the internet.
>>738862703YesWe are in a fucking thread, if you didn't notice, thus we are talking about what the faggot op proposedAlso no, (You) are the tranny very clearly, you literally tope>gender identityRemember to dilate before it gets infected
>>738860504Anyone who only sells their game on a digital storefront is published by that storefront.Publishing from the latin publicare: "To make public" and digital storefronts like Valve make these games public. The modern "Publisher" is really just a polite fiction to drape over a rightsholder and investor unless they actually publish something on infrastructure that they host themselves.>>738861872>Lists a bunch of examples where Valve approached the developers of an existing product and bought them out
>>738862941That's a tope? By the way, for me to be a tranny you literally have to accept and then assert gender identity being valid. If I'm a dude who pretends to be a woman and you do not accept gender identity, then I am simply a man not a tranny. Or vice versa for that matter.I don't accept gender identity as a valid identity that you can have, it's just mental illness and sophistry. (which you apparently suffer from.)I will never call you a tranny outside of asserting that you're projecting your own identity.
>>738860504"independent" is short for "independent developers" as in persons, it doesn't mean self developing and self publishing studios with hundreds of employees
>>738863202Half-Life is theirs tho, also not Valve's problem others sold out to them.They still further developed their games(within Valve).
>>738863675>Gender identity
>>738862073The "way people use it" is a literal marketing grift coined to sell Fez. A random browser game or freeware is rarely called indie by someone looking up "free browser games" because it doesn't profit a grifter releasing the newest Fez(Trademark) that is then co-opted by companies, stuff follows.
>>738861203>>738861351>>738862891Rockstar Games' games are published by Rockstar Games, not by Take 2
If you are contracted to make a game for a third party you immediately lose "indie" status and can only get it back by starting a new company
>>738860504>he thinks words to define genres are literalDoes a strategy genre imply games not in it have no strategy? Does the shooter genre imply games that aren't shooters have no shooting?Indie just means a game was more of a passion project developed with a smaller team and little to no external oversight from publishers or investors.
>>738861617Indie means "not AAA company" which implies a higher level of independence in what they are doing.
