Bungie is going to do a "wipe" on Marathon???For those that don't know, wipes reset your progress to 0 and was used as a beta testing tool by tarkov. Why the fuck is a supposedly fully released game doing this?This is LITERALLY the content sunsetting all over again.
>>738867868>resetNo matter what game, this is retarded
I have started a new Factorio game probably 30 times right now. I just started a new game a month ago. The amount of effort and challenge in that game is far greater than Marathon. These people are bitches.
>eat shit and die>t. BungieLmaoRemember: NO REFUNDS
>>738867868Do they reset guest progress as well?
>>738868326Yes. Everything gets deleted.
whales who buy mtx ARE retarded abs WILL do it all again while buying new season stuff
>>738867868every extraction game has seasons you fucking retard.still not going to play this streamerslop genre btw.
>>738867868>We Marathon players LOVE the "hardcore" extraction shooter genre>wait what's a wipe???
>>738867868Extraction shooters need a wipe to avoid the economy getting fucked Destiny style. Are you just pretending to be retarded
>>738867868>muh fair fight>5 rounds later>Sweats: back in purple shield like nothing happened>RMTs: hardly even noticed>cheaters: lol lmao even
>>738868584>economy getting fucked Destiny style>destiny >economy
>>738867868let me preface this by saying fuck extraction shitters, fuck bungle, and fuck you. how does this affect cosmetics?
>>738868584You never played destiny
>>738867868bro just got herebro born in 2026bro always says 'what did i miss?'
So are they going to release season 1 on dvd for offline single player?
>>738868995gone unless bought with real money.
wipes are a normal extraction shooter stuffgeting mad at this is like getting mad your k/d gets "wiped" at the end of a matchyou guys are fucking stupid>>738868995it doesnt
>>738869303>wipes are a normal extraction shooter stuffno. several big games in this space dont do that, including the godfather of them all, Tarkov.
>>738868995Nothing's happening to any cosmetics, it's just quests, armory/stat unlocks and all the gear in your vault
>>738867868I mean no shit? The timing for this has been known since before the game released. Seems kind of pointless since within a few days there will be a huge power gap again but whatever.
>>738867868when I started I really wanted to unlock all the upgrades and get stronger since the game is so brutally difficult. But the more I unlocked the harder the game got, I guess because it matchmade me against other high level people. So after a wipe what incentive do I have to level up? it's just gonna be downhill from day 1
They are also vaulting the playercount
Based retards actually going trough with it.This will 100% kill the very last gaymer dads that were still hanging on.Imagine sweating for weeks to get that glassimage vault or whatever loot and then week later get told you lost everything.
>>738867868>bro but now i can grind the same shit on the same maps all over againNo idea what kind of mindless drones play this slop, probably same as mobas
>Always-Online You deserve to lose everything.
The reason I hated the Stop Killing Games initiative from day one is that it is aimed to protect this kind of predatory videogame business industry.
>>738867868Someone in the room needed to say "How would you feel if all your progress got wiped because the devs wanted new players?" and point out that this creates a perfect offboarding point for people who are kinda getting tired of the game. Devs really need to plan during development how they're going to bring in new players without disrespecting their core base.The literal faggots and soulless suits who are running the AAA industry aren't smart enough for that.
>>738867868Bungie said this long before the game released.
>>738868721Yup. I can't wait for the wipe to kill every casual's appetite for this game. Streamers, NEETs and cheaters are going to be owning Outpost until Cyro opens. After the first week, they'll be running around in legendaries while the casuals will be in green and blues.
>>738869748You are an actual literal retard if you really believe that. I would correct you but it's funnier not to.
>>738867868As far as I know Warframe, a live service game that has been masquerading as a "beta" for 15 years now, still has the disclaimer that they may reset your progress at any time once the full release is out. Imagine the salt if they actually did it
I don't understand why game developers abandoned the bread and butter that was campaign and multiplayer. It could have been great. A short story on why the colony on Tau Ceti was destroyed, a bit of customization for your shell, and then through players into classic multiplayer matches. It's that easy
>>738867868Why do you write like a reddit troll? Are you gay?
>>738869637The one-two punch would be something like Arc or another popular live service game that's good for casuals doing a unique event that same weekend to try to poach the Dads of Marathon.
>>738869748
They told you it would reset every season from the very start. Also just spam pinwheel until you get your purple gear back, takes like 3 days tops, this game is not grindy when it comes to gear at all.
>>738870154>they told youTold you where, though? Most gamers are casuals and normalfags and aren't on leddit or reading Steam news posts about a game, or anything. Unless there was a huge banner in Marathon that you can't skip that said 'WE ARE RESETTING YOUR PROGRESS EVERY SEASON', the reset is going to surprise and annoy these people.What they do next will be the interesting part, and my money is on them dropping the game.
>>738869748I hate it because i hate the government and i hate retarded zoomers who cant spoof DNS to run any game they want offline whenever they want. We are not the same.
>>738870014money really, making good campaigns takes time and money, extraction slop is an attempt to keep retards entertained giving them barely any content, by making them just fight each other repeatedly, then removing whatever they get so they keep doing it forever while raking in microtransactions.alas only a very small subset fall for it.amuaingly enough this was their dream with destiny too, the whole vaulting and sunsetting debacle was about them wanting to make stuff unupgradeable so youd have to grind for it over and over and over again, thus removing the need of them to make new stuff, while also allowing them to revamp old content and run it again and again and again. they took their own operant conditioning bullshit too seriously, unlike hamsters and pigeons and the like humans detest doing the same shit over and over, and theres a lot of competition for peoples time, thats also free and far less ugly.
>>738869763Samefag here.Something that a lot of games do some variation of is introducing new gear sets and/or giving seasonal progress buffs for starting fresh (so for example a new character might have a track to get a strong gun). That's obviously less annoying but might actually require effort on the part of the devs.
>>738870292why do you care about normalfags so much
>>738870014That is literally supposed to be Destiny and Bungie couldn't even do that properly.A main campaign that funnels people into hardcore PvE dungeons and raids and PvP trials game modes. That is just too hard for modern Bungie. Look how well they've been managing that game. The studio NEEDS to be shut down.
Part and parcel of living in extraction slop city.
>>738871443If there's a single studio on this planet who's natural audience is busy millennial/gen x dads, it's Bungie.But even leaving that aside, obviously the devs should loudly and frequently remind players of something that major in the game itself. If you think that being reminded that they're going to lose their gear might make them stop playing the game, maybe you should scrap that approach altogether.
>>738871443Because they're the vast majority of people who buy and play games? Especially games from a high profile studio like Bungie. It's who Sony markets to, anon.
>>738868995>how does this affect cosmetics?You keep all of them.
>play game correctly>everything stolenTHANKS BUNGO WHAT A GREAT GENRE
>>738867868Wipes are one of the best things about extraction shooters. Only the dumbest Raid: Shadow Legends type of mobile gamer dunce is scared or bothered by them.
>>738869303I'm not mad about it I'm here to laugh at how the wipe is going to utterly destroy the remaining playerbase.Sub 1k active players incoming.
>>738869748It's amazing that you even have the cognitive ability to breathe, let alone type complete sentences.
>>738868028wrongimagine rust without wipes
>>738870292You really think normalfags are the ones that are going to play Marathon of all things?With the player count it has? You think the game has casuals?Lmfao go outside, man. Get some perspective, holy fuck
>>738870030>troonhoudilate
>>738868584>Destiny>Economy Lmao what? D2 has no economy, this isn't fucking Warframe
>>738874235>you think normalfags are going to play MarathonNo I don't, and the weak interest at the start and dwindling numbers are proof of it. But that's still who Sony marketed the game to and spent millions on trailers, influencer spots, ads, and other shit. Without normalfags or extreme luck, your game cannot make back a AAA budget.
>>738874036Which games are those?
>>738867868>If you were waiting for a fair fight, this is as close as it getsyeah, for like 3 days. Then by that point, all of the sweats are fully geared, while John from accounting, who can only play 1-2 hours a day after coming home from work and taking out the trash, is already behind with no hopes of ever catching up
It's over..
>>738874591don't underestimate how much blasting, jamming, and return to forming John can do in those three days>>738874727Out of context stormcloud posting? Is Tassi replying to the Marathon news post?
>>738870292>its another the singular fag who's just here to argue for the sake of it post
>>738867868So what fucking reason does anyone have to play the game AT ALL for the next three weeks? If anything the wipes should be monthly at this point. Fuck it, weekly wipes every Tuesday. I mean why not?
>>738869829i was playing ranked yesterday and the two other guys matched with me said they hadn't played the game since april and asked for my guidance. people are coming back FOR the wipe, and the player count reflects that, the game is on track to soar back to 20K with the mere promise of a clean slate and new content, i'm not sure how you ppl who think somehow the wipe is bad will cope with it
>>738875138>So what fucking reason does anyone have to play the game AT ALL for the next three weeks?are you dumb?
>>738875138I think some of the achievements are tied to progression, so maybe that? >>738875232It's a valid question. The sweats are the strongest they can possibly be, so if you're not at that level, all you can do is get eaten by them. What incentive is there to be an appetizer for a player who has gear you can't possibly match?
>>738875225>soar>to 20kI love that this piddly amount is now the new high water mark for 'it didn't flop' lmao
>>738874236NTA, 2hu is core 4chan culture just like gachi. Time to go back to r/the_donald where you belong.
>>738875335that is for the pre wipe events, post wipe will see back to 50-60k easy. it will never be a 100k concurrent by the very nature of the beast, but it can comfortably exist as 60k early season 10k late season every season game
>>738867868>Bungie is quietly killing marathon so that they can go back to working on DestinyThey thought we wouldn't notice.
>>738875427>you're ghoulishShillbro! You're back! I can't believe you're still stumping for this stillborn baby of a game. And you've still got a really short fuse and melt down when people criticize it. Doesn't seem healthy, bro.>>738875514>20k is pre-wipe eventsWhat events? We're in the pre wipe period now and it's still losing 15-20% players week to week.>50-60k easyScreenshot this post, someone. >it can comfortably exist with 60k early, 10k lateNot if there's no growth. If it's just the same beaten housewives coming back and the game isn't selling, the very minor MTX sales won't be anywhere near enough to overcome the running cost of the game let alone chip away at regrouping its development costs.
>>738875714the events you'd know about if you followed the game. and like i said, i have first hand experience with people who dropped the game returning yesterday with the mere announcement of those events. this weekend will see more players than the last for the first time and it will only accelerate once actual new content is out.
>>738876003I just checked the official Steam forum for Marathon (on PC, the lead platform) and there's not a single post I saw talking about these events. Or is this some Discord cultist thing where 'that's where the REAL fans are', where they have 400k people in there but can barely break 10k CCU on PC these days?
>>738868584This guy is easily subverted by everything
>>738867868At first, i was against this, but after playing Outpost this last month… if you go in with a free kit, your bum ass is fighting purple shields, there is no avoiding this. And after the knife nerf, there is no way to win against them without grenades. Shit sucks. UN-NERF THE KNIFE YOU COCKSUCKERS.
A new season is coming, where the fuck is everyone?
>>738876591They're waiting for the Flavortown DLC in Season 2.
>>738876578>if you go in with a free kit, your bum ass is fighting purple shields, there is no avoiding this.That'll be outpost one hour after it reopens. It's not going to change shit.
>>738876513that's not even a congizant statement and you didn't use the word subverted correctly at all, you offputting mentally ill goofballare you genuinelyjust on /v/ 16 hours a day just spamming marathon threads, making nonesene strawman points and samefagging??
>>738876578>there is no way to win against thembro I down purple shields with the weak af rook pistol loadout all teh time you just fucking suck
>>738876685The bigger irony is the reset will probably happen while the Dads of Marathon are at work, so it will be only the sweats and neets playing anyway, and they'll pull ahead even faster.
>>738875491>2hu is core 4chan cultureactually moot hated you /jp/ faggots.
>dead game is going to make itself more deadLmao why?
>>738875540>so that they can go back to working on DestinyAnother failing game? Warframe is already absorbing most of its players outside of those that don't just drop games all together.
>>738877997timegateframe is just a temporary stop for most of us. once either D2/D3/some other game comes back around we're jumping shit asap.
>>738868028It's fine in Path of Exile. If you hate it you can just keep playing Standard League.
>>738878116>other gameLike Anthem? Marathon was the other game that Bungie hoped would have saved them from the abysmal mess that was D2.>D3Which will fail because Bungie's reputation is effectively in the gutter and is one of the reasons Marathon tanked.
>>738875540What's there even left to salvage out if destiny? They ruined their good will.
>>738878116>once either D2/D3/some other game comes back around we're jumping shit asapYou'd have to love being used and abused at this point if you're willing to go back to Destiny
>>738877928Clearly bungie is trying to pull reddead and hoping sony will just shut marathon down so they can go back to working on destiny 2 it was revealed to me in a dream
>>738878116>timegateframeIs this some new cancer or are you referring to the eidolon day/night thing. Back when I played warframe it didn't do any FOMO or timegate shit except for repeating events like the corpus/grineer battleship
>>738878260>left to salvageNothing they already used their salvage in marathon
>>738878391He might be referring to that or the general crafting timers and grind lockouts and shiet
>>738878391He's referring to crafting take anywhere from a few minutes to a few days which sucks when you first start out.
>>738878391Crafting like weapons taking from 6-24hrs, Warframe parts taking 12hrs each and then 3 days for the full frame craft and etc.
>>738878501>>738878509>>738878565Oh thanks, i'm dumb
>>738878186I used to hate resets on principle but after playing hack & slash seriously I understood the use. These games get boring when you're maxxed
>>738878116Warframe is going to absorb most of them permanently.
DOOMDOOMDOOMDOOMDOOMDOOMDOOMDOOMDOOMDOOM
>>738874727
>>738874727qrd?
There are people who weren't expecting this to happen?
>>738879178>>738879004
>>738878823Just like it was going to absorb all the Destiny 2 content creators before Marathon launched? :)
Thread theme:https://youtu.be/In3SLsHpCSg?si=pQeUySw-gSXkfrYR
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/launch_learning_whatsnextWE WONMARATHON IS GETTING PVE
>>738879319MARATHON BROS WE'RE FUCKING BACK
>>738879178https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMRSNFNSlI4
>>738879349NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS GAME WAS MEANT TO BE MY HARDCORE NICHE EXTRACTION SHOOTER NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I DONT WANT MY GAME TO BE A CAREBEAR HUG SIMULATOR LIKE THAT BLOODY BITCH BASTARD ARC RAIDERS GAME
>>738879448>>738879349>pve "experiment" in the back half of the seasonBungie is so fucking dumb
>>738879420
THE SHORT VERSION (TL;DR) There’s a lot of words ahead, but here’s the gist of it: >With the first season of Marathon we’ve created a strong core community. >We're embarking on a multi-season journey built around growing from the seed of this strong community.>We’re looking to solve some pain points for players:>Making the game less grindy, more rewarding>Making improvements to things like the UI/UX, matchmaking, end game meta, playing as solos/duos, etc.>Smoothing out onboarding>We’re also going to build out more of the core game:>Adding new fun and mind-bending content: new and updated zones, Runner shells, new combatants, weapons, loot, and more>Building systems to make progressing more interesting>We want to build more survival experiences for different moods, like if you want to full sweat or lean back and chill.>Exploring more pure PVP, PVE, and PVP-lite experiences>Continue experimenting with experimental queues to learn more around these experiencesOther highlights:We're bringing back Duos for Season 2 with a rotating Duos queue.We're testing some experiments in Season 2 around PVE and PVP-Lite modes.We’re expanding the max size of your Vault and increasing faction progression rates in Season 2.We’ll talk more about Season 2 content like Night Marsh, the new Cradle progression system, and the Runner shell Sentinel, the week of May 25.
>>738879349>wordswordswords>PVE in 6mo maybeThis is the Marathon version of the Highguard 'we're doing fun experiments! Please don't leave!' panic.Probably too little too late.
>>738879349Jesus fucking christ, the chuds unironically won… NOOOOOO I DONT WANT THEM IN THE GAME GO BACK TO DESTINY 2 YOU GAY HOMOS
You can hear how fucking bitter the Valorantcuck sounds writing that blogpost LMAOSony must have spanked his ass good and told him to try and save Marathon
>>738879420Down from 11,500ish PC players at this time last week. We only lost 13% of players this week, brother! I'm literally shaking.
>straight up adding a pve modenot even arc has pure pve, theyll throw in a rat in there from time to time. lmao. this reeks of desperation.
>>738868387>how dare you point out season ends trying to normalize resetting all saved content because other streamerbait games did itYou might be even more retarded.
>Bungie before marathonsharts release: Yeah we have no interest in making anything but a PvP focused game>Bungie after marathonsharts release: Yeah so we're focusing on adding new pve activities for casual gamingHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>738879741Well, I'm a chud, and I love Marathon, so it does seem like I've won.
Here comes a wipey for the big stinky!!!
>>738867868>if you wanted a fair fight this is as close as it getsThat sounds a lot worse than it was likely meant to
Bungie was lucky to dupe Sony into paying billions. They probably can't afford to shut these dumb bitches down for a while.
So... is Marathon saved bros?
>>738880546>>738880635
>>738880546>Tools for nonviolent player interactions in marathonDONT SHOOT IM A FRIENDLY TROONY
>>738880546OH NO NO NO
Why did Bungie only find this out fucking months after the game was already out?THEY HAD THREE FUCKING PLAYTESTSWHY ARE THEY SO REACTIONARY THEY SHPULD HAVE FIGURED THIS SHIT OUT ALREADY SINCE THE FIRST OME
>>738880635No. They're scrambling. They realizing most people want choice. They want to do PVE or PVP when they want to, not at the same time. They misread the market. They thought extraction shooter shit which combines both was the next big thing. Its not. Its extremely niche. Now they're backpedaling trying to put the choice back. The problem is the game might die before the course correct
https://frvr.com/blog/arc-raiders-has-sold-16-million-copies-since-launch/
>>738881534>>738881367Yeah this is the same game director that said PvP was important because extraction shooters are like Lord of the Rings LMAO.This is Bungie in complete panic mode and Sony is probably giving them a year to coursecorrect.
>>738881367Bungie only make changes based on data. This was one of the reasons why being a d2 player was so frustrating.If the community were vocal about something being really unpleasant, bungie would go look at their data and see if players were still engaging despite the complaints and based their changes on that information.
>>738881707>uhhh boys why do we only have 10k peaks after two months?>FUUAAAAAARK TIME TO SAVE THE GAMEUnbelievabky retarded. It omly worked for both Destiny games because they sold a fuckton at launch. Marathon didn't.
>>738881707>Bungie only make changes based on dataThat data was immediate and obvious as far back as the Server Slam.Even if you had doubts, it was completely, undeniably clear by the end of March.The hardcore 3v3 PVP mode was uniformly rejected by anyone except this niche crowd of players. When retards on /v/ can look at your game in a free playtest and say 'Hey, this is going to flop,' you don't need a team of six figure business analyst dickheads looking at charts and data for a month to reach the same conclusion.
>>738881707THEY ALREADY HAD A PLAYTESTTHATS WHAT THE PKAYTEST IS FORTO GATHER DATA THATS WHENT HEY FOUND OUT THEY WERE RETARDED FOR NOT HAVING PROX CHATTHEY FUCKING KNEW THIS SHIT QLREAADDY
>>738878328this
>>738867868Hahahaha.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.Bungie cockgobblers get what they fucking deserve.>mfw didn't buy and didn't play
>>738879241Lmao whoever claimed that? Even Warframe players know most of their CDs are mostly literal whos. >Destiny 2 Content CreatorsEven funnier when the game was a shambling corpse to think there are any worth a damn. Anyone big long since left the game for more profitable ventures.
>>738867868they announced the resets before the game even launched, this "feature" was popularized by tarkov since they didn't have any content and needed to rebalance shit every few months, as always triple A niggers learn the worst things from other devs
>>738868584>avoid the economy getting fucked Destiny stylegood job showing you never even looked up what destiny is lmao
PredictionWhen Season 2 starts it'll hit 20k to 25k highs again. But will not last more than a month before dropping down to where it is now.
>>738870154>Also just spam pinwheel until you get your purple gear backyou can't just spam pinwheel to get all your passive abilities back, dumb animefaggot, all your contracts are also resetimagine needing to go garbage fetch quests all over just to not have asthma and run out of stamina after a small jog
>>738869748EAT MY ASS. EAT MY ENTIRE ASS. I DROP THE MASK ENTIRELY
>>738886370>it'll hit 20k to 25k highs againI'm really dreading this happening because if it does the board will be lousy with paid shill and ironic shitposters making /v/ lost posts over and over, just like the first few hours of release.
>>738869350Tarkov literally does wipes
>>738879349Nice, I'll play it at 50% off on GMG, which comes out to $10, and since there will be bots, I'll be able to keep playing even if there aren't many people online
>>738886672>Tarkov literally does wipesNot since 1.0. They are optional prestige things now. No more mandatory wipes for everyone. It is opt-in.
>>738867868>Imagine losing half your players less than two months after launch>in a game as a service that will be with us for yearssad
>>738868584Why not just make a better economy :^)
>>738870509>yeah, bro, just like, spoof your DNS like>I know computer terms Retard.
>>738875295In the ancient times people played video games for enjoyment. I can understand not immediately associating Marathon with enjoyment, but your zoomed up brain should still be able to make the connection anyway.
>>738886942anon... i think your lenght of service thought might be a bit optimistic...
>>738886370That'll happen regardless. Did you not see the Mixtape shills over the past week?
>>738890268Whoops, meant for >>738886515
>Get 20 minutes a day to play video games (40 if all chores done for 7 days in a row).>All of the small amount of progress you made with the boys is gone.Talk about hating your audience.
>>738871443you'd prefer trannies???
>>738886370a month? lmfao
>>738890316I saw, but I'm not surprised. When you're a nepo baby with Larry Ellison as your dad, you're going to get a ton of cash to use for shilling.Fat lot of good it did them though with barely breaking 3k CCU on Steam.
>>738891559Too optimistic I guess
>>738868584>Are you pretending to be retardedAre you on 4chan? You have your answer.
>>738886370>20k to 25k highs againnah, more like 15k
So /v/ is just gonna act like retarded gorillas just to have a hate thread? OP a gigantic faggot, as ALWAYS.
>>738870060Aww sweaty didn't you hear? Arc is moving to two (2) updates total per year. They got their bag and went into maintenance mode.
>>738886428Realistically, you should be better at the game and so you'll progress the factions faster. But you didn't play the game and are complaining about a game you don't play...
>>738894489Yeah I saw, and I don't get this Marathon shill line of 'now Arc is dead because Embark said they're doing two large updates a year instead of a handful of small ones.'
>>738879178That number can't possibly be right, is this worldwide?
>>738867868GuysGuys imagine if youImagine if youGet thisDesigned a game that was well balanced when you launched itAnd didn't need patchesSomething people loved playing and played for decades because it was designed to be funNot designed to be updatedSomething likeI dunnoHaloThat'd be crazy
>>738868584a lot of people >>738868868>>738874249>>738886336>>738887165Upset by this post not knowing that Destiny DOES have an economy, just not one that trades between players. Usually Bungie just let's this shit rot so it is nice to see they are trying to be proactive with Marathon, in some way. What Destiny 2 ended up with for almost its entire life was the old dedicated playerbase having quite literally impossible to spend amount of currency while new/more casual players being permanently poor.They've all just outed themselves as not having played Destiny.
>>738896773>Halo>balanced
>>738868584>entire point of the genre is to collect more powerful shit from each run>you don't even get to keep any of it
>>738879230anons are pretending, this was known and people made threads complaining about it before the game was even released
>>738900185Compared to any Bungie game that came afterward? Yes.Halo's bad guns aren't even unusable for the most part. There are some outliers, but you can usually find some application for any weapon in the game.
>>738875427Answer the questions you butthurt tranny.
>>738900713>Halo's bad guns aren't even unusable for the most partI mean if you consider the matchup between the Halo 1 pistol and the Halo 1 plasma rifle - with theoretical kill times of 0.6 and 1.98 respectively I think most people would consider the balancing there to be quite fucking insane. They probably had a fair variation on kill time by Halo Reach but goddamn Halo 1-3 were just insane. >>738875427No one gives a fuck if a reset on Marathon changes the dynamics of the game because the only dynamics people are interest in seeing from it is its twitching corpse and flagging player count.
>>738901119Just circle strafe with the plasma rifle. It slows both movement and turn speed when you hit something with it.
>>738868028no it actually makes sense if you consider their work ethic is next to nothingthey don't have to work as hard on new content if you're poor every three months
>>738901407Sure, I strafe and dodge your shots that have travel time and I bean you 3 times with my hitscan pistol and kill you.
>>738867868i will continue to do nothing
>>738900321It's because these games are pvp by nature, and that letting the general playerbase become stronger and stronger will make it borderline impossible to get into
death to bungie
>>738894542motherfucking tranny I completed all contracts in 100 hours doesn't mean ill do i again
>>738879349>>738879698Doomer xisters... What happened?
do they really think they're going to attract more people than they're going to alienate?
>>738867868Bungiefags are used to this. They're programmed goycattle.In destiny 2 they would regularly delete DLC that is ~2 years old. Yes thats right, paid $30 for a expansion? GONE,DELETED, YOU CAN NEVER PLAY IT AGAINAnd they praise bungie for it
>>738876653I'd actually consider getting it for that.
>>738904812The contracts will be replaced with new ones.
>>738907525There aren't that many players left to alienate. Might as well give it a shot.
>>738867868as everyone knows they are just full copying tarkov without understanding why tarkov does it. Completely braindead company
>>738867868Does tarkov not wipe? What do the people with 1000s of hours do? Dunk on new players with no gear till they ragequit the game?
>>738908278Tarkov only did a wipe once and it was for the release when it went out of beta
>>738908278They used to have forced wipes before the release version, this was because it was the testing phase but because every extraction shooter is based on tarkov they just copied this.
>>738908410So they didn't copy tarkov? tarkov has had no wipes on release
>>738868387One i play doesn't take all your shit at the end of them
>>738908539>they didnt copy tarkov because tarkov stopped doing it
>>738879349>PvE mode but with PvP>PvE mode but it's a huge co-op raid with other playerswhy don't they just let me shoot robots and do my contracts? I don't want to deal with other players, they're all retarded.
>>738879349too little too latei want a campaign not a shitty whatever this is
>>738886942>>738867868Should i buy? is it a dead franchise?
>>738910784>should I buy one of the biggest flops of the decade thats going to shut down very soonretarded or baiting?
>>738910784buy now and scalp when engoodening starts
>>738887165There's no way to keep the economy interesting without wipesI don't find necessary to loot blue or even some purple salvage now, I sold a lot of shit at usury rates to clear my vault. Wipes are needed to make looting stuff and running low level content interesting again
>>738910935But if it closes that dramatically they'll hand out refunds like Concord anyway.
>>738911310Retarded it is then
>>738910935>biggest flo-ACKyour stupid
>>738909524thisI'm not touching this trash again until we get solo PvE
>>738910784>is it a dead franchise?Not anymore.>>738910935So true, sis. 2 more weeks.
>>738867868>trusting bungeeUhhhh lol?
>>738911353Even sony is calling it a gigantic flop you stupid retard, you subhuman shills are the only ones insisting this is a success. Nice 88k players by the way, had less players than veilguard which was a studio closing flop. There are more people playing a farm simulator than your dogturdBet you were shilling concord even up until they announced its closure too
>>738911434>>738911338>>738910935>Sony>failing>everNot how it works buddy.
>>738911485Take it up to your owners then.
>>738911485You're brown
>>738911540>765 millionsThat's like 2 Concords lmaoYet another Sony L
>>738911540is this enough to finish negro and DEI once and for all? the male gaze and fanservice are coming back?
>>738911658lol nothe DEI will continue until morale improves
>>738911658Nobody at Snoy has identified the problem yet, so at least 12+ years of this slop ahead
steam charts gonna be a bloodbath on that day
>>738879319I’m studying the marathon cum back. Somebody post the chart.
>>738911658Sony are still going ahead with Horizons Hunters Gathering. So, not for Sony at least. MAYBE when Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet burns up on re-entry, something will click.
>>738869993>Imagine the salt if they actually did itsalt would be an understatement. That agreement won't save their ass from over 6 million registered losers threatening lawsuits.
>>738869993interesting. i never knew that about Warframe. there's no 'early access' warning on the Steam page tho... how do they get away with that?
>>738868584That's why good ones encourage players to prestige. Forcibly deleting player's progress without their consent is weird.
>>738912914To be honest I've been clean of Warframe for 5 years so I don't know what the situation is now, but for most of its lifespan this was the case. They've been treating it like a live service game but it's still technically a "beta" and most if not all of the playerbase has agreed to terms that say their accounts can be wiped in the event of a full release
So mask off?Bungie is just admitting that this game is early access slop that'll take another fucking year to reach the full vision? Apparently?
>>738911485I mean..there is only so much money you can laundering via Jewish accountant firms lolSony lost $5 billion dollars and counting on bungie hahaha that's like 4% of their global value. That's not a good thing.
THE FLOOR HAS BEEN FOUND. NOWHERE BUT UP.
>>738867868>and was used as a beta testing tool by tarkovHow fucking behind the curve do you have to be to still be bringing up Tarkov? Let alone thinking that wipes are only for betas.
Why not just copy Path of Exile's League mechanics?>All the exciting shit will be on the PVP server>On wipe day, PVP char is converted to PVE and you will be given a list of stuff to keep or discard>Content of previous seasons are added to Old PVE charactersMaybe add in a PVP server for the PVE enjoyers
>>738913446Okay but what's that but in retardspeak? They consider the whole studio, their games and everything a loss already? Is that it? How come the game isn't shut down already then?
>>738867868Bro, wipes are what put games like Path of exile on the map. Its the best thing you can have in games where the economy enters hyperinflation and everything loses value.
>>738913446>>738914138Jesus fucking Christ on a stick.
>>738886428>you can't just spam pinwheel to get all your passive abilities back, dumb animefaggotYou really can. Especially since ranks drown you in materials, especially once you start hitting VIP. And they are adding more and more pitty systems with random salvage crates.
>never ending grind is entertainment for amerimutt
>>738901504How american of them.
>>738874195depends, wiping used goods maps of old builds are obviously good but there's a reason most wipe actual tech progress by a month or two at least
>>738867868>Deleting destiny content>Wiping Marathon progresslmao what the fuck is going on with bungie
lol, what the fuck, if they ever do this in Space Marine 2, I would instantly uninstall>oh, let me just wipe hours of progress from your account for no reason at all>fast forward a month>GEE WHY ARE WE LOSING PLAYERS, ITS A MISTERY
>>738914938if you like the game what's the problem with playing it again? sounds like you didn't really enjoy it the first time and got skinner boxed
>>738913446i have read the report and i didnt know what "we have written off 100% of bungies assets except goodwill" meanthow can they have 1.3 billion in "goodwill"?
>>738915548To be fair, in a Skinner box you could in theory at least hoard the reward. This game is objectively worse than a Skinner box.
>>738867868they should be busy wiping the asses of the jeet retards that shat this fuckin steaming pile of “game” out
yeah so anyway. F2P when? not gonna bother reinstalling windows for the privilege of paying €40 i can spend on something else just for the fuckin game to die in a year
>>738880546Everybody shoots on sight except some rooks
>>738910784>Should i buy?no>is it a dead franchise?it's a dead company
>>738914138That's an ESL retard the studio is still worth almost $3bil and nothing is affected except the feelings of Snoy execs
