why would I be excited? I replay it every year on RPCS3 and it works fine

>>738871720
I'm a little excited, I will get it for 10$ eventually

>>738871720
Mgs died after 2
2 was the last mgs game
3, 4 and 5 are not canon
Also fuck 4 for retconning so much from mgs1 and 2

Game?

>>738871720
I played this slog of a movie once, why would I go through it again?

>>738871909
You mean re-watch?

>>738871720
I could just watch it on YouTube.

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>>738871991
>>738872000
>>738872037
>>738872072
Epic meme dudes but seriously the actual game part of MGS4 that's buried under all the movie stuff is excellent, albeit ridiculously short, and you can't get that by watching it. I played through it 10 times the summer it came out, skipping most of the cutscenes on subsequent playthroughs, because I like the gameplay.

>>738871720
MGS4 fucking sucks though? as someone who actually experienced the games launch I can tell you reception was very negative after how much snake eater was praised. The online for MGS4 though was possibly the greatest online game experience in the entire ps3 library. without the online and just the story people are going to be in for a very painful awakening.

>>738871720
I'm happy to play peace walker without having to deal with a ps3 emulator. I didn't finish MGS4, after the boss fight with the moaning lady who has her nipples visible in a skin suit, there is too much filler and dramatic bullshit.

Game?

>>738872390
Video?

>>738871720
MGS4 is woke

>>738872138
It was decent but it was wayyyyyyyyyyyy to short and you only get to play for a very short period of time before bombarded with another hour long cutscene or codex call
The writting was also very very very bad compared to mgs2

I wanna see how this shit is going to even run on a switch 1.

>>738871720
I rather 100% mgs5 copy pasted outpost then watch this dogshit 9hr movie again

>>738872138
Yeah, buried is the right word for it. All 2 hours of the game under nearly 9 hours of movie. I did a playthrough where I literally belly crawled through every section except the mandatory bike ride shit, and it still took less than half the time of the cut scene run time.

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>>738872138
The gameplay is shit too, I don't know how you could play it that many times and not notice everything that's wrong with it

>>738871720
not at all because I played it and peace walker on RPCS3 two years ago

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It will be a mess

>>738871720
would be super hyped in 2012 or so because that's when I got into the series. last one i've beaten was V in 2015 and after that I got burnt out from this franchise. they took way too long to port a fucking ps3 game.

>>738873235
I can't even finish 5. It's just so painfully obvious that it's phoned in.

Not excited at all, /v/ is filled with too many outsider faggots to actually talk about this game. Also not looking forward to youtube being filled with retarded grifters using this game to make jewglebux

>>738873345
>I can't even finish 5.
Kojima couldn't either.

>>738871909
well modding will be possible. no way to tell on what scale (early mods will probably be very simple texture swaps, the devs already showed this is possible by adding new camos) but i'm optimistic there'll be some cool stuff in the years to come.

>>738872138
that's why i'm excited for the PC version, it might be possible to change some of that so you can skip over act 3 for instance and just focus on the good parts. or adding real soldiers bto Shadow Moses.

>>738872360
i'm more excited for PW and 4, i never got to experience the multiplayer at its peak. i can't wait to co-op with the bros and listen to David Bowie.

>>738873525
kekked

>>738871720
kinda sad that all the ps3 jokes/gimmicks will be lost

>>738873687
if that's actually how it goes (and it probably will be), and that one particular Otacon line isn't replaced with "Oh! We appear to have moved to some sort of next generation hardware! My GOD the read and write speeds on these drives! And the capacity?!?" then it'll actually just end up still being better to emulate anyway.

And they'd better not fucking take away Hideo Kojima as a recruit in Peace Walker either

>>738873665
>skip over act 3 for instance and just focus on the good parts
but that's when it goes full key-jingling moviegame

>>738871720
It's a smoking pile of shit.
Even at original release time.

The worst of scripted games of these years.

Only acclaimed because Kojima was seen as a god, not yet as a fraud like today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ4dhwPA6Iw

>>738872605
Switch 1 is literally PS3 level hardware

>>738873946
the only people who see Kojima as "a fraud" are bitter NBGOcels who are still fuming that Venom Snake wasn't Gray Fox or whatever gay little fan theory they had in their heads. everyone else still respects him because they didn't care about the conspiracy theories over MGSV.

>>738874034
>Cell being beaten by an Android

>>738871720
I love MGS4 but I'm more excited for Peace Walker :)

>>738874092
Peace Walker is very good but stripping the online component from it is like removing a whole third of the game in this case

It's been 10+ years so I guess I'll play it, I remember the gameplay being really cool and ambitious but man the cutscenes.

>>738874034
Sure but Vol 1 was entirely locked to 30 fps and needed the power of the switch 2 to get it to 60

>>738874194
it was pretty novel back then

>>738874056
I don't give a fuck about your moon weebo theory.
I talk only about gameplay and amount of cutscene.

MGS3 was his last good game and they were already really too much cutscenes.

>>738874034
if anything it should run better with the advances in technology even if the hardware is the same scale

>>738874092
same, modding for it is gonna be easier i think, especially given the lower fidelity textures so i'm excited to see what people are talking about

>>738874186
wdym the online is still in. they confirmed it. in fact the servers they used for the HD collection of PW are still up, it was Peer 2 Peer so it cost nothing to host, it's probably going to be the exact same servers for this version too.

>>738874186
the online isn't stripped though, it's already been confirmed online play is included

>>738874348
huh so they did.
why the FUCK is MGS4's left out then

>>738874295
Death Strandings are actually good

>>738871720
I’m here to revisit Peace Walker again mainly. But I’ll probably revisit MGS4 too.

Everyone who hasn't played it has already watched it on YouTube.

>>738871720
I'm gonna have to do the fucking non-lethal bike section on extreme for a third time.

>>738874632
the gameplay is the best Metal Gear has ever been
Isn't there VR shit in the MGS4 engine? If not what the fuck happened there?

>>738871720
Maybe with a keyboard and mouse, I can finally finish PW. I played MGS1-4 fine with a controller, but I sucked complete ass at PW's shooting mechanics

>Giving money to a company that doesn't even make games anymore

>>738874748
>parroting same journo lies 10 years later

I'm reserving my excitement till we see some footage from non-konami sources. the first collection was and still is pretty fucked. I'm mostly interested in peacewalker and how they handle it. MGS4 is largely playable on RPCS3 now and I fear that given konami's track record they're going to just bundle a copy of RPCS3 with the ISO or some shit like they do with JNES and their "NES collections".

>>738874952

>the first collection was and still is pretty fucked

define fucked

>>738871720
its gonna be some forced 720p 30 fps bullshit isnt it

>>738872138
except for act 3

>>738871720
>We are three months away for this game to be freed from the PS3, how excited are you?
I'm not excited at all. I quite frankly detest this game.

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i'm buying two copies
one for my PC, the other for my switch 2
already pre-ordered the PC version. pre-orders for the physical editions finally went up online where i'm from a few days ago. sadly, only for the PS5 and OG switch only. so i might have to wait a bit for the switch 2 version.

it sucks that the steelbook is exclusive to europe only

>>738874952
it was shit on release but they've done a lot to improve the first collection since then, even fixing issues that existed going back to the original release of the HD collection, volume 2 could be the same but at least they don't dump it and abandon it

>>738874482
Why does it seem like Konami always had such a massive hateboner for 4's online specifically anyway? It got shutdown after only like 3 years and if you buy the anniversary, legacy or digital versions for the ps3 the data for the online is removed entirely from the disc. You can still play peace walker and portable ops online.

>>738875180
some of those HD collection bugs were fixed on release, really the main problem was (and still is) shit xbox 360 compressed audio. Hopefully that furry GOD will convert bespoke PS2 audio into new versions, perchance...

>>738875212
because it was, from day -1 filled to the abso-fucking-lute BRIM with hackers. The ranks were completely fucked and while they didn't care much about the west, westerners were joining jap lobbies and that pissed them off, so they killed it.

>>738871720
"freed from ps3" aka made available to normies who never cared for the game in the first place

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Imagine if it came with Metal Gear Online :(

>>738875212
Sorry 4fag, Survivechads get all the servers!
foxhunt was added to delta post launch so maybe they'll port it later

>>738875905
has anyone ever even gotten a chance to play fox hunt
at least we still have SaveMGOnline

>>738871720
I'm more excited for PW than 4 desu

>>738875905
survive surprisingly still has a decent JP playerbase, it's kinda crazy there's like 1000~ people who are on during JP hours doing the dailies. I liked survive too, despite it's problems.

>>738877896
that's fair since there is way more actual video game to PW

>>738872874
>removed limb damage system
>removed shooting radios
Yep, it's shit.

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>>738871720
Mneh it's ok I guess...
When I think about the lengthy cutscenes and the brain melting cringe story, I get less and less excited

>>738871720
>no mgo2

fuck Konami :)

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>>738871720
This is one of those games that you are excited to replay until you remember chapter 3 and 4.

I have never played it and still plan on never playing it. :3

>>738871720
This movie is already uploaded to youtube

>>738874482
>>738875212
i think it's because it's very niche and wouldn't last long, and it would impact SaveMGO. if it were brought back and part of some paid deal Konami might be compelled to DMCA SaveMGO. this is honestly better in the end, who knows maybe somoene will figure out a way to mod the MC collection to have the online.

the whole "PS3 cell architecture" dependency thing is a meme and a myth, Metal Gear Arcade was on the same engine and that ran on cabinets running Windows, and they had a 360 prototype of the game as well, so everything can be backported in theory.

>>738874952
they recognized the flaws with the first one and said they took more time with this collection to avoid those problems, so we'll see what happens.

>>738875019
MGS1 had a lot of control issues, MGS2 and MGS3 had a lot of texture and audio bugs. it was worse than emulation, objectively.

>>738877896
Peace Walker is legit dog shit

>never had a chance to play this one since no ps3
>finally have a pc strong enough to emulate
>hear this one had too many cutscenes
>look up full walkthrough
>11.5 hours
>look up "all cutscenes" video
>9 hours
no way it is that bad what the fuck

>>738879080
wrong

>>738879106
no that's right. It's 2 hours of gameplay if you know exactly what you're doing.

>>738879106
Kojima has always wanted MGS to be a movie series, and to make movies, but no publishing company would touch him with a 5000 foot pole. So he did it with games instead. His teams have always been incredibly talented individuals and for all the things I dislike about him, he is clearly an effective and motivating team lead.

>>738879106
that's basically speedrunning+watching all cutscenes. a first time playthrough can take a lot longer depending on your autism. mine took me about 30-40 hours not including replays for unlocks or ranks.

Why the FUCK does it not include Portable Ops?

>>738879598
it has peacewalker
portable ops is a junker slopmess only useful for the online play which is pointless in 2026 because no one would play it, just like no one played it back then.

>>738879662
Portable Ops is better than Peace Walker because it's Peace Walker without all the superfluous bullshit

>>738879598
no psp emulator, gomennasorry

>>738879598
they're probably saving it for Master Collection 3: The Kitchen Sink which will include AC!D, MGS Mobile and everything else they didn't release yet

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>>738879106
You can easily spend about 20 hours playing the game

Yes there are too many cutscenes and the gameplay doesn't have as much time to breathe as it theoretically should. The later acts change up from the battlefield stealth formula and double down on cutscenes and it leaves the extremely good and well paced opening acts feeling even more load bearing than they should

MGO2 has the endless gameplay expression that the campaign only lets you taste in bursts. If a new MGS game played like MGS4 did but had larger scale environments to traverse like MGSV it would be the best paced MGS game ever

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>>738871720
I have a bad feeling when it comes to konami
I'm gonna wait a bit, let them sort out the bugs.

>>738879801
>MGS VR disc is better than MGS1
ok

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>>738871909
>why would I be excited? I replay it every year on RPCS3 and it works fine

>>738871720
Why the FUCK are they not separate launchers. The games being considered DLC feels so wrong.

>>738881002
This is so close to my setup it's uncanny

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the cover art they did for the physical copy is atrocious
why didn't they just stick with the shinkawa art like they did with vol. 1

>>738881209
less gaem

>>738881107
They split 'em today

>>738881209
i also just noticed the "day one" edition
christ, i fucking hate it when publishers do that. makes me just want to wait for the reprint without that horrible eyesore

>>738881307
you can print your own covers you know
even for games you only have digitally

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>>738871720
>>738881209
>master collection
>2 games

>>738881402
two games that have been anticipated on other platforms for like 20 years anon. I don't blame them.

>>738880696
At least as far as gameplay goes, yes

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>>738881279
>They split 'em today
Nah, they are still DLC, at least on the Steam store.

Lukashenko lookin' ass

>>738881714
They're working on it >>738873234

>>738881402
3 games, actually, and unlike Vol. 1, the MGS4 port is made from scratch.

>>738871909
You either lying or you have settled for a half assed experience on the ps3 emulator. MGS 4 on RPCS3 is still in "In game" status, meaning that it has issues.

Why do people praise these games so much? I've only played MGSV on PC, but often see people praising the older titles. There's always a MGS game in the top 10 of those "best games of all time" lists online.

When I look at gameplay vids, it looks like shit. Like you're walking in a linear jungle to knock some guard from behind. Doesn't look interesting/challenging to me. Even the UE5 slop remake looks boring as hell.

What makes these non-MGSV games so highly praised? Is it nostalgia? Were they just ahead of their time back then, and you've kept good memories from them?

>>738881962
MGSV is the worst one anon. It's a beta for Death Stranding, not a Metal Gear game.

>>738881962
It's the 2deep4u story, homoeroticism, japanese """""humor"""""" and star wars prequels quotes. in other words it's reddit.

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>>738881962
Play Metal Gear Solid to completion, you fucking new troon.

Once you've managed that, then play Metal Gear Solid 2. If your zoomer ass can manage to get to the end and don't think that shit was tight, then stop playing MGS and never look back. If you thought that shit was tight, then play MGS3. If you get to the end and feel something in your throat, then and only then can you dare to touch the kino that is MGS4.

>>738882668
based

>>738874482
The multiplayer of 4 was based on a central server, that's not the case there
>>738878040
That's because the games not by Kojimbo are more played in Japan, as he has less of a "personality cult" there. I Saw a survey showing all these games had better reputations and sales in that country, with some games being far less controversial than in the United States

>>738882949
that is not an excuse anon
fans run that game right now, it works great. fo free.

>>738881939
what's the 3rd?

>>738883107
the game boy game

>>738883107
like previous anon said, ac!d, portable ops, mobile games etc

>>738883148
i thoguht they covered this somewhere already

>>738883184
Nyeh, the first collection had the two Famicom games as extras

>>738883158
what? the guy I'm replying to said the collection had 3 games, and I was asking what it had in addition to 4 and PW
>>738883148
Ghost Babel? that's something I guess

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>>738883254
how are we overlooking this

>>738882668
The screenshots of MGS1 look too bad for me. Low res textures and models too polygonal. It's a bit too dated for me. After checking, I realized the UE5 slop remake was of MGS3... not even the first game. And now they're gonna release a MGS2 remake, without the first one?

>>738874230
I still want an explanation for this.
The nvidia shield ports of MGS2/3 that came out some years before the Switch ports used the same hardware as the Switch but ran at 60FPS.

>>738883803
nintendo bloatware

>>738883669
well MGS4 is out of the picture for you anyway cuz parts of the game are a fever dream with MGS1 graphics anyway

>>738871720
>mgs4
I only care about Peace Walker and not that movie.

Mgs4 has some fantastic gameplay, really just wish they'd let you play with it more.
I think Peacewalker is the real winner here though. If we get some good and proper online support, this is gonna be amazing. I'm so excited to tackle the MH missions with my bros.

Let me guess, its going to locked to the original resolution and framerate, and references to licensed content will be cut.

>>738877793
>has anyone ever even gotten a chance to play fox hunt
It wasn't that good and died pretty quickly. PS lasted the longest with about a couple months, PC lasted about two weeks and XB dead on arrival.

Its not worth $60 or whatever for 4 and Peace Walker. It would have needed either all the PSP games or Twin Snakes to get me in at full price.

>>738874482
>why the FUCK is MGS4's left out then
Same reason they didn't revive MGO1 with Master Collection Vol. 1 or remake it for MGS Delta. Konami are retarded.

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>>738881259
That didn't stop them before

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>>738879106
That would be someone running the game knowing exactly what they're doing. Your first time will obviously take longer.

>>738871720
Has anything of the non-PS3 version of MGS4 been shown? If not, I bet it's FUCKED. I bet it's all sorts of fucked and shitted.

>>738886630
The actual reason is because MGS4's single-player content is the main draw, unlike Peace Walker.
The online would be dead in a month and Konami knows it, that's why they didn't bother.

>>738881209
Did he do cover art for those two games?

>>738887136
there was some blurry screenshots from a japanese guidebook sample that already showed that ps3 in the nomad has been replaced with a giant kerotan

>>738887318
Oh man, that probably means Otacon's lame-ass codec call about the game being on a Blu-ray disc will be gone.

>>738887715
Well technically the physical edition will be on blu-ray so it still works.

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>>738871909
Lmao, no you don't. You need a specific build to even run MGS3 and you need a beefy machine to run it at a steady 30fps. Considering the high percentage that you're Brazilian, I sincerely doubt you have the hardware.

>>738871720
I only care about PW and Ghost babel tbqh

>>738871986
Omg stfu drk nobody cares

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>>738883669
I absolutely despise stupid fucking children who refuse to do anything except run their ignorant mouths.

>>738886627
i'm inclined to agree it's really only diehard fans who are gonna buy this at launch. but in the future it'll go on sale, PW is worth $30 at least for the amount of content i has and how much you can get out of it. and that's without any potential modding.

>>738888540
he's so whiny and annoying now

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>>738887202
Far more players are interested in replaying MGO2 than PW's online

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>Act 1 is somewhat linear but has lots of branching paths you can take where getting from A to B can go very different on eahc playthrough
>Act 2 has lots of open areas that feel somewhat sandboxy and worth exploring
>Act 3 is even more sandboxy if you're not a berk and actually use your Octocamo to explore the area
>Act 4 is a bit of a nostalgia fest but the new controls make it feel fresh, especially the Crying Wolf battle. It also has a fun Kaiju fight at the end
>Act 5 is very short and challenging to ghost and has an immensely satisfying final boss to the whole series

And lastly
>the story is actually good and works as a send off for the series and the dumb shit that makes no sense about the ending works emotionally and everyone these days is pretending that they weren't choked up the entire time

What's frustrating about 4 isn't that it's bad, it's that it's so good that not having MGO with it is torture.

>>738888749
no they aren't, if they were SaveMGO would have thousands of players. the mega autists who know the game backwards and forwards alienate out all the casuals who drop the game because who wants to get endlessly raped by super experienced players for hours.

also a Konami run version would be terrible and get shut down anyway. SaveMGO isn't going anywhere for now.

>>738889184
i think the main flaw with the story was its need to definitively end everything, so a ton of characters are there who don't need to be and get melodramatic sendoffs that aren't earned, like Vamp and Naomi.

>>738889258
You can still play the PW online with SaveMGO like projects and it's not even doing a tenth of SaveMGO's numbers. The reason people bring up SaveMGO is because most people care about MGO2, not PW. That said yeah Konami isn't going to run it.

>>738889184
4 is great but the content isn't well presented. There IS enough content for one game but you have to actually replay the game to experience it. Compare it to MGS1, which had actually less content than 4 but made the player replay some areas (like 2 also did) and padded it out.

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Fundamentally unserious game

>>738888690
>Troons of the Patriots

>>738890336
kek

>>738887136
Autistic comparison "every remake is a demake" anon here. It seemed fine in the trailer. Didn't notice anything notably fucked up.

>>738879106
If you know what you're doing every MGS game can be finished in 5 hours or less without cutscene time
You don't even really need to be that good

>>738871720
nah, never understood the love for the game. It exists to over explain and ruin the mysticism of the series, particularly 2 and for what? literally everything was because of nano machines. on top of that the plot is super retarded, intensely verbose, etc. it's kojima at his worst

>>738883669
The added a high res mode to the master collection version a few months ago the removes the weird dithering that causes the pixels to shift when the camera moves. It looks a lot better and that game itself holds up. Just play it dude.

>>738891495
All it ruined was the patriots identity. And yeah that's a big deal. But people whining that Vamp was actually tech instead of a vampire are stupid, this doesn't matter at all.

>>738887294
There's Shinkawa art used for the PAL release of MGS4 but PW never had his art on the box

>>738873665
>well modding will be possible. no way to tell on what scale
With AI coding pretty sure we are going to get some really interesting tools made by the community.

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>>738891594
Better than NTSC, but not as good as the MGS1/2/3 covers.

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Am I the only one who loves Old Snake here

>>738892701
Old Snake is the most attractive old man ever.

>>738871720
Im looking forward to skipping as many cutscnes and codec calls in MGS4 as I can and then finally playing Peace Walker for the first time.
>just emulate it
the PSP version is unplayable and the HD version isnt on PC yet

>>738893480
>the PSP version is unplayable
how so?

>>738871720
You can already watch it on youtube. Looking forward to some piss walker coop though.

>>738895830
>shitty resolution
>30fps at best
>PSP controls (no second analog stick)

>>738871720
Hope they get the licenses for the guns.