Smash is a fighting game. A fighter with players on two sides is definitive fighting game.https://youtu.be/fUYRSb7oBkA.
>person does thing>"LE BROKE LE GAME"clickbait titlealso this whole "OH MY GOD LOW TIER UPSET AAHAHHHHHH" is not a big deal anymore when it has happened countless times by now
•We will all play games together.•We will have perfect games.•MMO is the best genre because of amounts of players and a persistent world; an MMO will be the most played game.•A few devs could make a few mobs and a zone per day and have an MMO of content in a month or two.•"The lowest common denominator" of dumbing down games is made up; people are 99.9% the same, and people will know games for their objective quality eventually.•Quality is objective; this is one of the most important discussions in media.•Motivation (fun) had been solved since 1985. The height of motivation (SDT Theory, pictured) is the height of fun.•Genres can be compared objectively.•Games are art because they're creativity productions.•Console makers, especially Sony and Nintendo, should release games for PC; the PC gaming demographic is 1.5B; if Nintendo sold one (1) $60 game to 10% of the PC gaming demographic (they sold a Switch to 14% of the US), they would make 1-2x their yearly income ($9B); consoles are effectively sold at a loss compared to just selling games (people spend the money, but Nintendo doesn't see all the money like they would with games).
>>738873257It's a pretty fun watch. I would rather have full games, but it's fine.
>>738872920It's actually a party game
>>738873415nobody asked, bot
>>738874201>All different, quality posts.I'm not a bot, and what I posted is worth knowing. If you can't argue the material, why are you even posting?
>>738874167Not a rebuttal.
>>>/vp/
If you have to disable half the mechanics of a game to make it competitive it's not a fighting game it's a party game that you're sucking the fun out of
>>738874167Any game with local multiplayer is a party game. Almost all fighting games are party games by this definition.
>>738872920What IS this GOONSLOP crap, what the HECK?!
>>738874684When I clock in for street fighter - it's no party!
>>738874681Playing without items is more fun than running around trying to pop an orb every minute or two and playing who can get the hammer first. Imagine thinking RNG is competitive and that using a vanilla game feature to make the game more competitive is an argument.
>>738874201>>738873415>>738874541I don't know what you're arguing for or what you want people to see. If this is just you saying that new games are bad and old games are good, you can just say that.
>>738872920BEHOLD, A FIGHTING GAME
>>738875772>What is reading comprehension?You can say you just didn't read the material.>Motivation (fun) has been solved since 1985. The height of motivation (SDT Theory, pictured) is the height of fun.>>738876006That's not a fighter.
>>738873257What's wrong with a clickbait title?
>>738872920What a unique and controversial take. Your torch lights the way, anon.
>>738872920cool, and M2K played Pichu at high level, and DK has seen relatively recent tournament play. Not clicking your shit shill
>>738874684I think I would argue fighting games aren't party games.
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>>738874681Genres cannot be defined by competitive viability. Or does a fighting game suddenly switch genres if a massive game killing bug is discovered? Silliness.The idea that every single optional mechanic must be enabled for a game to have competitive "integrity" is likewise retarded. It's trivially easy to find competitive games where certain stages or characters aren't allowed and optional mechanics aren't enabled. Or do Xrd tournaments need to use that silly MOM mode or w/e where you can slap periods power ups on your characters? Do we need to unban akuma from SF2?
>>738879750A title doesn't change the inherent worth of a video.
>>738872920This is not a hot take lmao. This is as cold as it can get. Smash was just accepted as a fighting game like a decade ago at this point. It was really only when melee was out of Evo for a while that people debated it. It is obviously a fighting game.
>>738873257>le low tiers winning stuff is le boring nowWhen the comp melee meme was "fox dittos on FD every set" for literal decades yeah a character outside of the top 6 doing something is fun and never stops being fun
>>738880495The "worth" of a video is subjective. If a video has a clickbait thumbnail or a clickbait title it's 90% gonna suck. These essays are nothing more than brain rot. Call it content or whatever. It's still a waste of your time.
>>738873257>962k views>not a big deal anymoreFucking freak.
>>738880994>Le everything is subjective.No, it's not. Fun was solved in 1985, and skill expression is one of the most motivational notions. A title has little to no effect on this.
The best genres are>MMO.>Survival Crafting (PvP).>RTS.
>>738881379The title is a pretty good indication on what the video will be like. Structure, editing and stupid voiceover / webcam shit. Its been done to death. THere is no creativity here. As long as its trendy and abides to the rules it will show up in our feeds. Its just fast food. Especially if its related to videogames. Useless facts and hype reactions.
>>738882154Just admit that the title doesn't affect the quality of the video. For those interested in increasing their choices and experiences (everybody), a Luigi winning streak with gameplay is novel.
>>738882272I've never watched a single video of this cunt. The only time ive had to endure him is when hes on comms. So fucking infuriating. Just screaming nonsense. The usual melee hype man. No, I wont watch his shit. And I definitely wont approve of his useless cashgrab videos.
>>738872920>>738874167The consensus is Smash is a platform fighter.
>>738879685Define a party game, then. Smash is a party game. Mario Kart is a party game. Bomberman is a party game. Mario Party is a party game. Guitar Hero is a party game. They play nothing alike. All it says is that it's a game that's fun to play with someone else. Are fighting games not fun to play with someone else?
>>738883245By that definition, fighting games are party games. Any game with multiplayer is a party game.
>>738873257There was a time on this board where you couldn't mention Melee without someone posting that confidently ignorant Kermit rant about how it's a "solved" game
>>738874681Why does the game give me the option to disable these mechanics if I want to take it seriously then? Why are stages like Battlefield even in the game?
>>738883738Yes. "Party Game" is the same as saying "Single-Player Game". It doesn't say anything about how the game itself plays, just that you can have fun with it in multiplayer. Saying Smash is not a fighting game but rather a party game is retarded and avoids describing the game. It's like saying Clair Obscur is not really an RPG, it's a singleplayer game. "Platform Fighter" is a much better way to describe it.
>>738885702I would define party game as something that usually doesn't have another genre, at least not definitively. Mario Party. Maybe even Guitar Hero.
>>738872920>Smash is a fighting game. A fighter with players on two sides is definitive fighting game.It's a king of the hill game, win condition is getting the opponent out of bounds not koed on stage.
>>738885902It's just a different health bar.
>>738884626Anon, don't you know? RNG is skill.
>>738872920behold... players on two sides fighting
>>738873257>also this whole "OH MY GOD LOW TIER UPSET AAHAHHHHHH" is not a big deal anymore when it has happened countless times by nowdid you not see BobbyBigBalls' donkey kong spergout?
>>738888774That's obviously not what that means, and that's not a "fighter" anyway. Face it, OP has a good definition.
>>738872920Fighting game is broad and malleable like any of the overarching genre titles. Why the blacks at the FGC can't seem to accept that is a mystery to me. You don't see Quake fags deny that Halo is a shooter or an arena shooter even no matter how much they shit on the series.
>>738882272>Just admit that the title doesn't affect the quality of the videoIf it's clickbait then I'd argue it does.
I started playing melee competitively and branched into 3rd strike and now I'm one of the best players in my regionI would rape everyone here
>>738872920>calling it smashFuck off retarded zoomer scum
>>738874167>>738883738A lot of fighting games are party games, Mortal Kombat, FighterZ, and even Blazblue
>>738892832Truth Nuke
>>738891838>Why the blacks at the FGC can't seem to accept that is a mystery to me.It is a delusion of grandeur. FGC has a lot of blacks and a lot of blacks have an inferiority complex, once you argue Smash is a fighting game, the nigger that believes it's not has already convinced themselves that they have already one, believing that you are asking for their acceptance into the FGC, which they have some role in, because they think video game genres are a personality trait. It is impossible that you refer to Smash as a fighting game because it's a reasonable way to categorize your game, but instead, they believe you are shoving your game into their circle, in all fairness, EVO shouldn't have ever had multiple smash games at evo, but again, considering smash a fighting game is not the same as demanding it should be at EVO
>>738872920Sakurai is a lying fraud that hasn't made a good game in years. The fact that he went mainstream is concrete evidence of this.
