>Slopped and flopped so hard that Capcom is now reconsidering their entire business approach and says they want to diversify with smaller IP's and not just put all their eggs in one basketSay thank you.
>Top 10 Capcom sellers for fiscal 2025>Actually top 13 just so Wilds can be included>Stories 3 didn't even make the listIs MH a washed IP?
>>738874998>Another worldbaby cope threadLmfao
>>738875149New Portable title could salvage it, but unfortunately that's not going to happen for at least another two or three years because we've got to get through the Wilds expansion first (which will no doubt also be shit)
>>738875149how the hell did the resident evil 3 demake sell 2 million in a quarter, even with the discount that's a lot
>11M units sold for a base game>FlopTendies are really desperate
>>738877625Every new RE game they put the games on sales so you have an influx of people buying the old ones at deep discounts. DMC got a massive sales boost from the Netflix show too
that's World 2, baby!
Still not buying Rise, portable tranny
>>738877667It hasn’t sold much since its 10M boom so it quite literally jumped towards the sky then promptly flopped face first in the dirt unlike world and rise
>>738875149Stories 3 isn't on the list because it released in 2026 you fucking retard lol
>>738879617learn what a fiscal year is you fucking retard
>>738874998thank you for flopping MH wilds, maybe we will get more than one new megaman game a decade now
>>738875149How the fuck is DMC5 selling close to RE numbers and still no sequel
I blame the gender neutral gear shop. The one in SF6 isn't helping that game either.
>>738875149Oh shit they did make it a top 13 to get Milds into the list LMAO.>Risebreak did 3 millionBahahaha
>>738875149Why did Wilds sell so badly, they had a lot of good will from world and rise
>>738886332First they Casualize/streamline the game mechanics to appeal to non fansThen the core fans are put off by the changes tell their non fan friends not to buy the game End result: core fans don't buy it, non fans don't buy it There's a tipping point to this bullshit, and i guess it wasn't world, but it was definitely wilds
>>738879617RE Requiem released in 2025?
>>738886332Bad performance is pretty much an immediate death knell for any live service title.
>>738874998>>738875149Go woke go brokeIt's even funnier when you realize monster hunter rise was even more cheap to produce because it was a nintendo exclusive for year so they got paid for the exclusivity, which basically subsidized the development budget
>>738886332Cosmetic DLC spam.Game runs like dogshit for most people (later discovered that this is also because of the way the game checks for DLC)Arguably the easiest title in the series with how neutered difficulty is in the game.Dog ass story that nobody gives a shit about treating Hunters and The Guild as environmentalists.Literally nothing to do for months after a content patch because the grind is too easy.
>>738877667>Game takes 10 times more budget to produce compared to the last entry>Somehow managed to sell less in the same amount of timeTake a guess
>>738875149wilds sold 1.3millons copies so far?! didn't capcom say it sold like crazy or something like that?
>>738877625there's no fucking way, something is weird with these numbers (and it's not wilds lmao)
>>738877625>Most hated D3make>has been a flop for fucking years with no sales increase even at 5 fucking dollars>sells fucking millions out of nowhere in a couple monthsCRAPCOM bots their youtube and twitch streams; they 100% pulled a Disney and bought their own game copies.
>>738874998>make a game where a jeet is front-and-center of the camera for 50% of the first 10-20 hours>it singlehandedly changes the course of a franchise that was surging towards mainstream popularity and relevance while breaking blockbuster sales with every new gameIt's impressive how jeets poison and destroy literally everything they touch and are involved with
>>738874998>let's shit up everything else people ever loved about Capcom just like Monster Hunter when you'd think that was impossible to ever be ruined by casualization, photorealism and leftist moralfag retardation about hot girls or light skin
>>738886332It didn't really sell badly. The launch sales were insanely good. The problem is they dropped off after launch by like 95% and everyone stopped talking about it so sales kept declining. The reason for the massive dropoff is a mix of bad reviews + bad performance issues + Capcom not doing enough to address any of the complaints. Lots of people refunded the game but that doesn't really show in sales metrics either.Wilds kind of took the World formula and didn't really improve any of the exploration that Worlds was known for while making the combat much worse/easier. Contrary to what Capcom were expecting dumbing down the combat for casuals didn't make more people play the game, it just made people finish the game faster and then drop it.
>>738886332Like >>738886604 said. Hardcore/Old fans have been shitting on the changes MH made since World. Hardcore opinions eventually get parroted by casuals who started with World once enough time passes. They still have enough goodwill from FOMO tourists that they sold alot at launch, but nobody is sticking around to please their investor fucks. Despite this, their G rank expansion will probably still sell. Not alot if you look at Iceborne and Sunbreak performance compared to their base game. I'm expecting half the sales of IB/SB percentage wise.None of this matters if Capcom just assumes the fix to this is more movie slop or casualizations in the next portable game or 7th Gen.It will be funny to see what they'll do if they consider Outlanders the portable game for 6th gen.
>>738886332World had huge sales but it's also kind of an outlier which the sales numbers don't account for people who bought it but then hated it and then went on to not buy Rise or Wilds.
>>738877667World was at 12M at this point though
>>738875149>>Top 10 Capcom sellers for fiscal 2025>>Actually top 13 just so Wilds can be includedToppest of kekks
It has the worst map designs ive ever seen, such a chore to explore you just hate it, especially the last two Ok the forest looks visually cool but it still sucksIt’s so bad they created the seikret to navigate in it automatically which is dumb for a game about hunting
>>738890381You know you fucked up when the spinoff game has mostly better map design.
>>738889456>people who bought it but then hated it and then went on to not buy Rise or WildsI feel like you're putting the cart before the horse here. There was a distinctive portion of players who went on to not buy Rise or Wilds because they LIKED World, not because they hated it.
>>738877625its the power of a new entry being glazed so hard by REslop lovers that you can expect even more tourists to your series, if it wasnt all tourists already lel
>>738891012Nope. It was a matter of hype. I knew several people who only bought World but ended hating it and thus never bought the others. They still counted as a sale for World.
>>738889336>Hardcore/Old fans have been shitting on the changes MH made since World. Hardcore opinions eventually get parroted by casuals the only overlap is disliking sekrits, which is just because sekrits suck. Palamutes were popular with casualsIf people were parroting unc takes they wouldnt be praising sunbreak constantly
>11.5 million copies after a year and 3 months = flop that killed the series forever and ever>it took Rise over 2 years to hit that same number but its the best game ever apparentlyThere seems to be some kind of bias going on here...
>>738875149Sooo, Capcom really expected Wilds would be at 20 million by now right?
So just how nuclear is /v/ gonna get when Wilds G-Rank is announced during Summer Game Festival anyways
>>738891448one is still selling while the other's sales dropped off of a cliff.
>>738891510pretty nuclear when they also announce the switch 2 port and snoys have to shift to saying that the game was always bad.
Every time I think of giving wilds a chance I watch footage of the game and completely get the urge to throw up, seriously the gogmazios fight looks like you are really in India surrounded by not only shit on the floor but the boss itself is made of shit, I dont know how the art director could seriously be this bad, I have never seen a uglier capcom game
>>738891654what a casual little bitch you are
>>738886332It sold a metric fuckton of copies in the first month because of that hype. Then everyone realized how shitty it was and sales plummeted and never recovered.
>>738891654The fuck do you expect from Gog? It's whole gdesign gimmick is it's a monster that eats gunpowder and is covered in tar, while invading a volcanic location partly covered in oil.
>>738891510Nobody will care beyond shitposting about how bad Wilds is. The game is really just unsalvageable. Skip the expansion and just try again with a new entry entirely.
>>738892073Remarkably stupid idea.
>>738892313Its only a bad idea because they've already been developing Milds G for at least 3 years. If they fucked up the fundamentals of that then its too late to salvage anything and we may just get a horrible G edition that makes the base game look like the peak.
>>738892556lol, you are not a real person. Skipping an expansion sets a bad precedent and would do more reputational damage than even Wilds itself being bad.
They pandered so insanely hard to fucking casuals and normies they watered down what made the franchise fun in the first place.
>>738883618why is it a bad thing to be able to mix and match male/female sets as you please
>>738877667It sold 10 million in the first month and then like 1 million in the next year. Absolutely atrocious drop off
>>738891515One is a finished game that also had a literal 10 bucks bundle for both the base game AND the expansion, has a Switch version AND can run on a potato.The other is a HR game that require at the very least a mid range PC or worse, a PS5, to run at all, which is the major reason why it gets so much flak especially in here.
>>738891448this board is gonna be buckbroken when they see the upcoming switch 2 sales lmfao
>>738892663They aren't looking at it like that; they are looking at how much time and money has been spent into Milds G and will not cancel it. Crapcom is fucking retarded dude. Also you're a bot something something.
>>738875149Tokudas vision
>>738886840The portable team budgets are way smaller to begin with. World cost more to ADVERTISE alone than Rise did to make and advertise as a whole.
>>738893162This will clearly be changing as they begin developing for Switch 2. Even Nintendo are beginning to take extra long to get games out because they can't totally coast by on such low quality asses anymore.
Bought the game late and I just did Gog today, what a shit fight to end the game on.>Half his attacks one shot, the other half take 90% off your healthbar>First phase it feels like you spend most of the time just chasing his arms around>Second phase is maybe 1 minute of fighting and then just dragging cables>Third phase is mostly shooting him with your slinger>Overall you're not even using your weapon for at least half the fight>Horrible dogshit RNG grind on top of that since all the best equipment is locked behind farming him
>>738893298It's bad but his attacks doing big damage is a necessity since he is slow with only 4 fucking attacks >lasers>tail sweep>body slam>wing dragAnyways the majority agree Gog is shit and ignore him entirely versus 10 stars for farming tickets to make mats for Gog weapons.
>>738893298>First phase it feels like you spend most of the time just chasing his arms aroundThat's Gog and large monster fights in a nutshell. They are never good and that piece of shit has never been a good fight. Not even when he was a massive slow tar covered Magala reskin.
>>738874998Proof that variant monsters carry the franchise. Guardians are shit and don't count.
>>738887881they had that super breedable hebe in that smithing village tho, when I first saw her I wanked it to her 2 times. sex goddess.
>>738875149Is Capcom just going to become the Resident Evil company with a Street Fighter team
>>738894217They're making Onimusha and Pragmata just released. There's definitely going to be another DMC as well.
>worldwhat if we made monster hunter but SHIT and 95% of the hunts have a mandatory 1minute chase >icebornewhat if we fixed everything that made world SHIT>wildswhat if we undid everything in iceborne and made monster hunter world but MORE SHIT
>>738893298It's a siege fight and all siege fights in the history of MH even since Lao are horrid, it's better than the original fight in 4 at least but that's not saying much.>Horrible dogshit RNG grind on top of that since all the best equipment is locked behind farming himBeating him unlocks tarred weapon melding at the melder in Suja, nobody actually fights Gog for tarred weapons when you can just meld shit for those way faster.The only real headache is getting his gems for the armor pieces but once you have that you're gucci, and honestly most of his armor pieces aren't worth getting anyway since UT clownsuits are more efficient on average, at best you'll see two pieces of Gog.3-4 pieces Gog is very comfy for the barrier though.>>738893974Based Maki enjoyer
>>738894564our ancestors bred girls that age... boy am I glad I live in germany and it's legal for me!
i can't believe how dogshit wilds is
Seems the wrong direction to take. Just stop putting so much focus on story and character - Nobody gives a shit. We all know every single character will be gone for the next game so why bother getting attached?
>>738894873Well, they keep bringing back 4's characters. Many of which are in Wilds. Also base Wilds actually is nearly half as long as base World story wise.
>>738874998Unfortunately Wilds didn't really flop but regardless it received enough criticism that Capcom likely will take the franchise at least somewhat back in the direction of its roots
>>738877667/v/ has been calling Rise a flop for its whole lifespan even though it sold nearly 19 million so far.
>>738891448>it took Rise over 2 years to hit that same number but its the best game ever apparentlyThe fuck? /v/ had been calling Rise capcom's biggest financial blunders in history for years.
>>738874998I hope wilds is forgotten and deadI didn't buy it and still outrages me
>Capcom calls Wilds soft sales and did not meet expectations >Huge development cost (300mill estimate including marketing)>Huge time cost>Internet makes fun of Wilds>Wildsissies come in defense calling it a massive success>Capcom had nothing but praise and adoration towards World and Rice; not once have they mentioned them underperforming and infact the opposite>B-B-BUT RISE ONLY DID 8 MILLION IN 1 YEAR (low costs, Nintendo funded it, only available on 1 platform>World of course is its own insane successMan even Capcom Creators who get paid in trinkets have stopped defending Wilds 7 months ago lmao
>>738896178Wilds clearly had a troubled development. Craziest thing to me is how apparently shareholders actually wanted it pushed out several months earlier.
>>738896345They actually gave Capcom 1 extra year of development. No amount of time would have made it a good game because 1) fundamentally flawed and confusing game design2) they were going to cut finished content to drip feed back to us no matter what
>>738896178Acshually rise was 9 million in 1 year
>>738896832Stop man they're already beaten down enough
>>738874998monster hunter has always been a highly niche game world being popular was a fluke of the release time back in the late 2010's because no good games were out. they thought they could repeat the same strat. they failed. monster hunter will never be popular ever again and will go back to being a cozy niche game again thankfully.
>>738874998Meanwhile dragon's troonma 2 barely able to sold 4m and people called it a success?Fuck off retard
>>738897231>world being popular was a flukeExcept Rise was also extremely successful, and Wilds was completely on track to match or even surpass World at first until people actually played it. It failed purely on its own lack of quality.
can g/master rank save wilds?>>738897348dd2 was one of the most disappointing games of the last decade, but children seem to like it
>>738898218It took DD2 years to hit 4 million. Its sales fell off a cliff shortly after launch. People saying dumb shit with no context is the normal defense cope of Mild shills.
Wilds post TUs is the best basegame though.
>>738875508world(shit) literally caused wilds. but you're not ready for that conversation. gu(shit) directly caused rise(which was also shit btw) but you're not ready for that conversation either. 4u lead directly into world but 4u still had a little bit of the old gen dna left in it. people have different tolerances for shonen jank mine ended at 3rd gen. I know for some its FU and thats fine as well. but lets not for one second pretend that gu and onwards wasn't peak casualized normie bait.
>>738898456Knowers know that post dos is when it really started.
>>738898408Its not the best anything, period.
I'm having more fun with GU than this trash
>>738898456GU was by far one of the hardest mainline games they've ever made. Nothing has ever been as over fucking tuned as G-Rank Hyper Silver Rathalos and the Deviants.
>>738898106No game that sells over 10 million copies fails and the only real issue people have with it is that it runs poorly, also because according to Steam most people are stuck with a 3060 and its mobile equivalent.Rise was literally stuck with the same critical reception outside of the performance issue, then Sunbreak came out and lo and behold everyone likes Rise now.
>>738898581Play FU, the game is hard in Low Rank, the same cant be said for the games afterwards.
>>738898408>Look, the pile of shit has sprinkles on it now, please eat it
>>738898581GU aint mainline, it was always billed as an anniversary/greatest hits type thing.
>>738898581Try High Rank EX advanced hypers in Gen without Brave style against Forlorn Arena EX Hyper Metal Raths and all Huntathons.
>>738898601>No game that sells over 10 million copies failsNow there's an actual retarded take
>>738898601Lmao
>>738898535tnksn.>>738898581>put broken shit in game (valor)>now mosnters have to be balanced around itoh no, who could have seen this coming????
i notice no one says WHY the game is shit, just that it is
>>738898770
>>738898770a lot of half baked systems (i dont want to write an essay here), terrible performance (probably one of the worst of any recent game), the focus mode, the map/game is ugly,-- and its not a big deal (given the nature of the game), but the story was beyond badi love mh and i defended it throughout world and rise (1k+ hours for both) and it killed my enthusiasm for the series entirely.world and rise were great but flawed, and wilds should have demonstrated the lessons learned, but it was literally just worse
>>738898770Check the archive for hundreds of thousands people explaining why and a quick Google search. Weak bait.
>>738898950>>738898770i should add... it wasn't entirely unplayable, but it did not improve on what we already had... we waited years for what many consider a downgreade. sidegrade if we're being generous.every fucking release they sabotage the game with something idiotic. im going to die of old age before we a get something truly good
>>738898770>offset>tackle>offset>perfect guard>animation cancel>offset>offset>perfect guard>animation cancel>offset>perfect guard>animation cancel>offset>offsetI'll bite your bait and tell you to your face wilds is shit.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBzHH0I2I8E
>>738899057so what LS could do for years?
>>738898770>i notice no one says WHY the game is shiteverybody has said why constantly for the past yer
>>738875149>Top 13 to include Wilds And in the process includes Rise that's selling more than Wilds.Who's idea was to double down on all the wrong aspects of World?
>90% of complaints are about the story/low rank portion of the game which take a whopping 8-10 hours the first time>combat and action are the best they have have ever been>amazing roster of returning monsters and newcomers, especially post TUs>added the much needed difficulty as well in TUs
>>738899057That looks cool
now THIS is peak MHhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwBXPvYTytM
>>738874998Portable 6th will save monhunTrust in Ichinose
>>738899260So you dont like monster hunter got it.
>>738899140i dont fucking give two flying fucks about ls, they can do whatever the fuck they want. I use gs and hammer. when my gs gameplay is turning into 90% parrying, 5% animation cancelling shit and 5% tackle spamming thats where I start nooticing.>>738899260you literally can't charge head snipe without learning the monster in and out in old gen. stick to wilds. your inner newfag just self exposed.>>738899353wilds is made for you then anon. try it out.
>>738899685Did you play adept or valor GS in GU? or the same parryslop in Rise?
>>738899850>>738899764>>738899685who's delusional here
>>738899850Yeah so you dont like monster hunter got it. No need to keep repeating it.
>>738900006I've been playing MH since Freedom 1 and I clearly like it way more than you do and ever will since I don't shitpost aggressively about Wilds.
>>738900004>steam reviews>80% of them are 3rd worlders who cant run the game on their hardware from 10 years agokekaroo
>>738900004Reminder
>>738900131Yeah bro we get it.
>>738900234every single MH since Tri has been the same, subpar basegame, good expansion/G-rank that makes everyone forget lmao
>>738899764guild in gu. without absolute evasion. you can't pay me enough to ruin my own monster hunter gameplay willingly. dropped rise after 50 hours because I realized I'm not the target audience anymore.>>738899850>headlocking was fucking trivial in oldgenI see you're trolling.>>738900004world and rise babs. wilds players are mostly worldbabs so they're just as delusional.
>>738900317I don't think this is actually true.I feel like a lot of people actually did like base World. The main reason people didn't like it originally was just because it was very different but in hindsight everybody has accepted it.
>>738900639A lot of people liked base World because it was a majority of peoples first MH game. Series "vets" were already screaming how it was the death of real MH
>>738898770I bought it a week ago. It's meh. Walking sections suck ass. Also I don't know if It's paced weirdly but I feel like I just speeded through the monsters into the endgame. Most hunts are easy, even for a casual like me. Areas look pretty boring. The bird mount being on auto run just kinda kills exploration.I just killed Zoh Shia and Seregios but feel like dropping the game at this point.
>>738900853Why'd you buy it? Genuine question.
>>738900714nta but I'd also like to argue most oldfags just dropped the franchise as a whole after world. I know I did
Wilds wonStop coping
>>738900639World had bad performance on release too.
>>738900924It was on sale and I played World and Rise with my friends alot. This game did not capture the same feel, though I'm not too into MH to accurately describe it. Game kinda just petered out. Maybe World just hit different cause it was my first MH.
>>738900853the games first hint of difficulty if 9* monsters and omega, either slog through the game til you get there or quit now
>>738877667Well it’s a question of how much did Capcom spend and how much they made. If the former is too high and the latter too low, you get a flop.
>>738882108As far as I can tell, Capcom's a little loosey goosey when it comes to assigning directors for franchises, so if no one has a vision in mind it kind of sits on the shelf. Mega Man is also like that, but it also has the excuse of not selling a lot of units compared to the more lucrative franchises in Capcom's wheelhouse.
>>738898770Wilds had everything to be the best monster hunter to date but that's not profitable because the current playerbase is made up of people who dislike mh but like world so everything had to be streamlined and any kind of friction removed
>>738898218>Can g/master rank save wilds It made Rise go from one of the worst launch mhs ever to being pretty damn solidSo yes
friendly reminder that wilds AND world has more active players than rise
I didn't read the thread but mainline Monster Hunter has too big of a boomer player base and I think that with Wilds Capcom tried to get more zoom zooms into the playing it. It turns out that the kiddies don't like casual gameplay, uggo characters and forced storyshit everywhere either. Only Sony console owners are into that. Hopefully Capcom learns from this and gives us a good game next. Thanks for asking and reading.
>>738875149Pragmata bros?
>>738901528>It turns out that the kiddies don't like casual gameplay, uggo characters and forced storyshit everywhere either.world sold 40million
>>738901528well it worked out. world was casualized enough to attract the modern monhun audience.
>>738898770The story isn't engaging, nor why people want to play the game, and it's front and center and intrusiveThe Seikret controls like ass compared to the dog in rise, the fact that autorun is so shilled should have been a huge red flag for it as a mechanicVery low amount of monsters in its base rosterSlow dripfeed of content despite the low content at launch, it has an overreliance in farming best in slot artian weapons, charms and decos for retentionThe hunter being buffed yet again makes it so the devs are forced to make absolutely retarded fights if they want to make the game hardLots of dev resources were put into the environment, weather system and world but the benefits are really just not there
>>738901646all of these but the seirkret thing were said about base world lmao
>>738874998I got this game for free with my CPU last year. Haven't really touched it.Is it worth playing now?
>>738901573Flavor of the week
>>738901778I think it's just best to ignore these games until the expansion drops, or at least like 8 months in I know it always was sorta like that, but I feel like I got burnt three times with base world, base rise and base wilds
>>738875149Don't make a bad game and it isn't washed.
>>738901815do you feel like playing a 6.5-7/10 game?
>>738901815if you've never played a monster hunter game before. definitely.
>>738882108DMC always needs a sacrificial bad entry to really come back. DMC2, The missing half of DMC4, DmC. Hopefully the show counts.
>>738901896I mean, 4 was so bad they straight up did not bring it over to west and skipped to 4U entirely
>>738886332MH Wilds is objectively shit and a stain on the Monster Hunter name.
>>738901815its pretty good now that all the updates are in, as long as your PC can actually run it
>>738874998NoThey said ignoring PC performance in favor of borderline legacy platforms completely murdered sales longevity
>>738875149>Risebreak in the top 10 chartoh jesus christ they're going to learn the wrong lesson again. Fucking remaster 3U and 4U game to current gen and pc Capcom you fucking fucks.
>>738902620>learn the wrong lesson again. Fucking remaster 3U and 4U game to current gen and pcits not happening man. I have completely given up.
>>738902620Rise was better than both of those
>>738891943Fucking nonsense apologist answer, we fought him at a fortress in 4
>>738875149>dmc 5 mogs wilds in total sales>nearly matches it in q4, 7 years laterthis really pulls my devil trigger.
>>738901001It IS the best gooner entry I suppose.
>>738898581*absolute evades your post* Huh?
What's the best Elder Dragon fight in the series?
>>738903268White knight Dracula
>>738903268Really most of them fucking suck or have one retarded thing that makes me not want to fight themMalzeno I guess?
>>738902620>Wilds flopped hard>lol let's remake wilds 0.5Wilds sold like shit for all the reasons that people always hated 4u for, retard
>>738903526Primordial Malzeno made me drop the game. Most retarded tryhard anime bullshit in a MH full of it
>>738886332Outside of World, cinematic mainline titles(dos,tri,4u, wilds) always underperformed compaed to pure cocaine gameplay focused portable onesPeople always say how they want more cinematic shit and downtown between hunts, like looking at flying pests in 4u, or being amazed by majestic nature, but really as sales show, on average people just want to hit monster in the head with their pipe instead of listening 20 hours cutscenes about their epic anime monster rival
>>738886332You'll notice that it's sold over 11 million copies in its lifetime, almost all of which were in the original launch window. All of that good will evaporated when the game was casualized slop that looked and ran like absolute dog vomit. The expansion will have to move heaven and earth to get the sentiment out of the toilet.
>>738903653>people always hated 4u fornta, started with 3u and 4u and skipped world and wildwhat the fuck are you talking about? I genuinely want to know. Is it the story?
>>738903653Wilds flopped cause it ran like unfiltered ass but fixing that was the lowest dev priority behind the title updates and retarded fender and ramen collabs, and focus mode was a dumb idea
>>738891012According to achievements, 15% of players never finished prologue in WorldThat's 15% from 30m, aka 4.5mThink about it, and then you have iceborne where only 30% of players hunted master rank monster, and fucking iceborne sales are way more than half of Worldhttps://steamcommunity.com/stats/582010/achievements/Wilds look way more healthy, especially down the roadhttps://steamcommunity.com/stats/2246340/achievements
>>738904085>Wilds flopped cause it ran like unfiltered assSo did World, it couldn't even prepare hunts fast enough on ssd, and on hdd it was impossible to play. And let's not even start with CPU rape it didGames running like shit never hurt sales, because pcfags are masochists who love being shit on
>>738904092Do DLC achievements count everyone who owns the base game or only people who bought the DLC?Never thought about it before nowWe know that basically every MH expansion sells about half of what the main game did even back when it was a re-release and not DLC
>>738903935Nta but I quit 4u after 200 hours because 3DS XL wasn't a great device. 40 minutes in and hands began to ache and my eyes began to bleed etc. It's wasn't a suitable device for action games. 3U was comfy on WiiU.
>>738904187Most of Worlds sales come from post IB, when performance was fine. Just like Wilds is gonna be.
>>738901573Wasn't out in fucking Q4 2025 dumbass.
>>738898770>i notice no one says WHY the game is shitNo flex = not monster hunter.Simple as.
Maybe it's a good game? I wouldn't know.I can't even fucking run it.
>>738904328the more turdworlders like yourself filtered the better imo
Wilds is one of the best base games, you're just bad
Daily reminder that a major contributing factor as to why Wilds turned out to be such a piece of shit, is that it's a literal AI slopware game.https://www.gamespark.jp/article/2025/05/28/153115.html>Corporate mandates AI use>Gut the QA team to save shekels>Let agentic AI hallucinate the QA, bug fixing and supposedly even play the game itself to gather more data to analyze>Rely entirely on this process>Release a buggy mess that runs like shitWhen you learn this little bit of context, it immediately makes sense as to why it took capcom nearly an entire fucking year after release just to even begin putting out basic performance fixes and optimization.They probably had to re-hire actual people for bug fixing and QA, which no doubt involves trying to deal with code that was likely just vibe coded with Claude or some shit.I have no faith in capcom ever producing a good monhun game ever again. The leadership is rotten to the core.
>>738904408trvke, base world and base rise were absolute dogshit compared to wilds
>>738904408Nah I am solid at it and its not very good. Some decent fights at endgame but 95% is pretty awful.
>>738904372Sure, sure.Sorry, just not going to buy it, is all.Pragmata's been really fun though.
>>738904187World ran acceptably to consolefag's nonexistent standards and didn't come out on PC til months laterAnd I can't speak for everyone's issues but the hitches I was getting on PC were fixed when Kulve was added, Wilds they didn't do shit until the final update.
>>738904203I don't blame you. I probably put a thousand hours into monhun on 3ds and went through like 4 circle pads before I got fed up and 3d printed a metal one. Was happy to finally have it on PC, but didn't like World being so tourist friendly.
>>738875149Still playing MH 3 stories. Aside from the gay anime narrative, being a casual turn based MH Game it was made perfectly for me
>>738904476>3DS kiddie calling others touristLMAO
>>738904448Wilds skips a bunch of shitmons like Great Jagras, Great Girros, Great Jaggi (only trannies like those shitmons) and gives us fucking awesome monsters like Rompolo and Xu Wu. If you wanna go fight dinosaurs just play Dino Crisis.>>738904469Which fights are bad according to you?Show your S rank pendants noobs
>FU has transmog nowits time to come back home, white man
>>738904579And I'm right. Get lost fag.
>>738904647how? if possible, link?
>>738904625>Rompopolo>Not a shit monWell now I know you’re full of shit.
>>738904408I like Rise's base game more but I can't imagine how anyone could be saying World's is better:>Overall monster variety: Wilds > World>Flagship fight: Wilds > World>Final boss: Wilds > World>(No) Zorah Magdaros: Wilds >>> World >Collab monster(s): Wilds >>> World>Characters actually have names: Wilds > World
>>738904747>(No) Zorah MagdarosMost dogshit post award goes to
>>738904625>Which fights are bad according to you?I think you mean which are good, list is shorter than the other way around.>Omega Savage>10 star Rey/Ark/Zoh/Jin>9 star Lagi and Seregios>Show me your S rank pendant noobSure but its a slow run since I caught it just before it ended.
>>738886332Bad performance in a heavy grinding game like MH is already a major turn off. No one is comfortable playing a grind game for hours when they can feel their machines screaming for release.
>>738904673only works with FUComplete apparently, but it does in fact work.https://exceen.github.io/mhfu_transmog/
>>738874998>diversify with smaller IP'sisnt that what theyve always done?several of my favorite games are smaller capcom IPs
>>738904747People have memory-holed base World or just didnt play it til Iceborne. That shit was barebones and has way too many roster spots taken on true shitmons. Not to mention the biggest waste of dev time ever in an MH game that is Zorah
>>738904674>he hasn't done the Rompest PopoloNoob outed lmao
>>738904790>buys DLC for a game he hatesHAHHAHAHAHA
>>738898456Rise is the only good MH game.
>>738904747When you realize that 90% of MH players actually started in World and then LARP that they started earlier they get very defensive over their first MH game.
>>738904813eh i thought it would be an in game mod. icba to make a set on the website.
Nargacuga, and Leviathans are very rough ideas litmus tests for overall map design quality. If a game lacks either in a meaningful way that isn't scripted or segmented off in some specific zone then the map probably fucking sucks to traverse and fight in.
>>738904931No I have the DLCunlocker. Dont be silly and stop goalpost moving. Its not a very good game.
>>738904790That's just a list of "which fights are HARD compared to Iceborne Master Rank".Mizu is a good fight.Gore is a great fight.Rath has been remixed and is now pretty good.How the fuck is Jin "stand around and get dabbed on" Dahaad a good fight, but Nu Udra isn't?
>>738904863The fact that Rompest exists in the first place is proof of Rompopolo being a shitmon, same shit as Greatest Jaggi, but Rompest is a pity fight created because nobody wanted to hunt the damn thing
>>738898637Your first game low rank is always hard
>>738905094Wilds was my first game and low rank was a fucking snoozefest.
>>738905070>That's just a list of "which fights are HARD compared to Iceborne Master Rank".I didnt mention IB, why are you so shizo?I didnt mention difficulty either.Gore is fine, Rathalos is fine.
>>738905070How can anyone like wild's mizu?Holy shit, 4u fags are so fucking retarded
>>738905231Whats wrong with it? Its pretty good since it got some of Soulseer's moveset
>>738905259It's slow, boring, and soulseer phase is out of place
>>738905321>and soulseer phase is out of placelol
>>738905321I can tell you didn't play the game. You don't even have the game, right? Too poor to buy it?TU1 was fun as FUCK because noobs who got all haughty about being "good at Monster Hunter" got their shit slapped in by Mizu's lightspeed tail slam.
>>738874998I hate that wilds has some really cool weapon movesets (focus mode aside because fuck that garbage) and they will be stuck in a mediocre game for a long while
the only bad fights in Wilds are Lagi and Gog
>>738886332never buy a game on release, and never ever buy at full price if you know there's going to be a major DLC upgrade bundled with it laterI say that as a full supporter of the series
>>738905410Nta but noobs die to basic monsters in World wearing full Fatatlis. Using horrible players as a metric of good or hard fights is silly.
>>738905604i will always buy a game i want to play on release
>>738905231Mizutsune was not in 4U (thank god)You mean GenfagsMizutsune is objectively a shit monster which only is popular for it's fairly aesthetic weapons
>>738902828You think retard sand people that fuck birds and don't know what weapons are are capable of building a fortress?
>>738905829>4ufag praises worst mizu version because wilds is closest mh game to 4pottery
>>738906179>praises worst mizu versionNo, I hate all mizu versions
Wait, what's wrong with Mizu??
>>738908310Can't talk for everybody but for me it throws my aim off, he's just so spastic I can't enjoy the fight
>>738908310MH4 and world are famous for slowing even fast monsters down for majestic cinematic experience, so when players are forced to fight with monster that isn't designed to be piece of landscape, they have melties
>>738875149an exclusive monster hunter for switch 2 will save the franchise
>>738875149Their back catalogue literally saved their fincial year, this is one of the few good things about digital
>>738910448Wasn't right designed by Japs trying (again) to appeal to Westerners? I don't want to be appealed to, I like MonHun having obvious Japanese strangeness to it.
>>738898770Game runs like shit.Game looks like shit.The first 40 or so hours of the game are completely on rails like it's The Last of Us or some other Sony slop game.The game barely worked for the first month of it's life, crashes, disconnects, the whole shebang.Story is horrible, almost nonsensical, and constantly put front and center.Open world is completely unutilized, half baked and empty.The maps suck.Very little content compared to previous mainline game releases.Half of the weapons feel absolutely horrible if played optimally with mmo nonsense build spend loops (IG, SA, LS).It is not a horrible game, I still had fun playing with friends (aside from the first few days pulling my hair out trying to get it to even work), but it is the worst, most soulless game I have played and a shameful release coming after Sunbreak and Iceborne which both were great and fun imo.
>>738898456TRVKEGU (and frontier) were already going hard into some unrecognizable directionWorld killed monster hunter. Rise and Wilds are humiliation rituals
>>738899057>>738899685>>738900523Based. Based based based based
>>738910448>>738910637Grummz trying to grift from retarded alt righters once again?
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>>738899685>you literally can't charge head snipe without learning the monster inside and outBro it is seriously not that hard and even if you whiff here or there you can roll out of it every time, charged unsheathes are the default playstyle for GS and GS is one of the easiest weapons in old gen along with hammer which has a similar “charge hit on turn roll repeat” playstyle
>>738911656>No mention of 4, game that forced cinematic bullshit and slow walking segments with npc>forced players to do boring ass caravan story if they wanted to play endgameHmmmm, I wonder who could be behidn this post
Yeah wilds was shit. Not gonna lie. Won't buy another Monster Hunter blind.
>>738905065Whats the dlc unlocker?Hope it works in Rise too, they locked the himecut behind a paywall and I'm not giving them a cent for that crime.
>>738911914He got bullied so hard for picrelated, that he deleted his post. But while it was still up, other altright grifters liek asmongoloid and cumdrinker referenced to his tweet to pretend that this is the problem with Wilds. Guess year later, with fans not caring about game anymore and only internet nazis being around to bitch, he attempted round 2.
>>738903653>4U>wilds 0.5genuine retardation
Imagine running to /v/ because the /vg/ thread made fun of you for your shit tastes.
>>738874998It sold over 11 million, surely that was enough to be profitable.
>>738875149Feels like a crime that RE4 still hasn't outsold even village. Normalfags have fucking shit taste.
>>738901461*on steam, where rise factually sold less than world and wilds
>>738912875It's still amazing that he batted for the fucking handler when Hinoa, Monoto, and Fiorayne were right there.
>>738892748>They pandered so insanely hard to fucking casuals and normies they watered down what made the franchise fun in the first place.kek, I wonder if they'll learn anything from it or continue to chase non-gamers.
I like focus mode but would massively nerf woundsHaving more directional control over your attacks is a good thing and i'm tired of contrarian faggots saying games shouldn't evolve or improve
Is it a hot take to say that Wilds Lagiacrus is a shitmon because it's weak points are it's head and back, which are practically impossible to hit unless you topple it down first?
>>738874998as a fan since FU, wilds is the best base game we got since Tri. Unironically zero misses with the monsters, even fucking rompopolo is peak. Without ever going into cringe zone of dragons and dino -spam too. And literally the first time in the series my weapon (gunlance) is actually playable
>>738894217street fighter is extremely neglected right now.
>>738912875I don't see how this is sopposed to convince me to like tranny looking 'women' in games. What's the egregious sin here?
>>738875149>Wilds 329k>Rise, Sunbreak 800kWell, 329k is more impressive when you take into account that those 329k were copies sold at full price or 10% to 20% off, meanwhile Rise/Sunbreak majority of sales are 50% off or more.The moment they announce G-rank and put a 40% to 50% on Wilds it will sell like hot cakes.
>>738875149>not even 5% as popular as resident evil
>>738914447Bitch has 55 on chest and you are complaining. World rajang had 43 on hands and down to 25 across it's body despite having been 55/45 pre-world.
>>738914535With that logic we should also conclude that world's sales aren't impressive because the majority of them were made when the game was $20 or less.
>>738875149Resident Evil as a franchise is made in a way that encourages people to buy and play the entire series, whether for story or gameplay reasons, so a new sale in one of the games will have a high chance to generate another sale for another title, which makes it an amazing franchise to generate sales.For games like Street Fighter and Monster Hunter, you're only encouraged to buy and play the latest title because the previous games are for the most part rendered obsolete by the latest game.
>>738914350Yeah, monster hunter was famous for being hardcore series that no casual played....Holy shit, what a retarded piece of shit you are.Monster Hunter is good, when pic related is target audience(fu, p3rd, gu, rise)Monster hunter is shit when it targets lonely incels who play in darkness staring at bright screen(dos, tri, 4, world, wilds)Simple as thatIf you want good monster hunter game, you fucking want it to target casual audience like women and kids. otherwise you get fucking garbage like 4u and wilds
>>738874998>diversify with smaller IP's and not just put all their eggs in one basketProbably the best thing that could happen to Monster Hunter. Wilds tried to be the slop that appealed to the masses while feeding just enough crumbs to have the oldfags stick around and it failed to do either.Once Monster Hunter remembers that it's kind of an esoteric clunky piece of shit franchise at heart, it'll be kino again.In ten years when MH7 releases of course.
>>738914661>monster hunter is called hardcore>look inside>literally all it requires is not spamming shitPeople still can't recover from the damage ps3 era did to western AAA gamer's minds
I quit right after mizu was added, i know gog and lagi are back but who else got added?
>>738914690>release literally the same game with the same monsters, same weapons, same animations for everything>it must have failed because they did not appeal to oldfags
>>738914749Retards and underage altright incels like this>>738914690 call everything hardcore, especially because grifters promote it. We had people calling vanilla wow hardcore, when entire point of game was to target housewives, and blizzard were proud of it.
I'm not going to grace either of you with a reply because you're quite clearly mentally ill. Smell ya later
>>738914850You'll pathetically bump thread in 20 minutes anyway, just like you did many times since it was made
>>738914819what qualifies as hardcore?nta
>>738914937Usually games where target audience are gamers who are good with genre.In last two decades, I can't name a single time when it was a good thing. On bright note, not a single monster hunter game tried it, because even mainline directors aren't THAT retarded
>>738904747You couldn't even refight Zoh Shia without a title update.
>>738915150bitch those are always online coop games since the first one. And you literally couldn't access half the game's content without servers running in that one. World and Wilds are fucking saints compared to how series used to be about online requirements.
Didn't rise launch without any elder dragons besides narwa?>>738904747
>>738877625It was being sold on steam for like 3 quid or so
>>738915347Event quests and updates after release didn't add entirely new monsters until World. Rise did the same thing by making Allmother an update fight, but you could at least fight Ibushi and Narwa's base forms when the game came out. Wilds was so unfinished the FINAL BOSS was not repeatable. Monster Hunter had a monster you could only fight once.
>>738915508yes they did. White fatalis in 4U was a download quest. Fatalis in base 1 was event quest like Kulve and Safi are.
>>738915624I thought you got Fatalis in 1 by beating all the town quests? I completely forgot about White Fatalis being an event quest in 4U, though.
>>738899357the style system is so fun, it should've become a staple of the franchise
>>738904747Meanwhile>Music: World > Wilds>Map: World > Wilds>Village: World > Wilds>Tracking: World > Wilds>Palico: World > Wilds>Optional quest: World > Wilds>Ecology: World > Wilds>Player housing: World > Wilds>Characters: World > Wilds>Shitty unnecessary combat gimmick: World > WildsBear in mind a lot of these things were already bad in World compared to previous games, they were just even worse in Wilds
CAPCOM HIRE MEA monster hunter game but mechs. But that's not all you take the part break system and flip it on its head. If you want a giant robots plasma beam you have to NOT destroy it in the fight to get a better chance at salvaging it.
>>738917129>>Shitty unnecessary combat gimmick: World > WildsHell no. Clutch claw is single worst thing ever invented. Wounds are overpowered but cool idea that make sense at least, they aren't as egregious on 9* quests. I'll give you the rest though, except in combat Palico (World has terrible AI) and maybe not Ecology.
>>738904747>Characters actually have namesYour point would be stronger if you didn't tack on this Faggot shit at the end
>>738917129>>Characters: World > WildsI hated every single asshole in world, even more than 4u characters, while in wilds they are just annoying, with only kid hitting same lows as caravan and research fleet
>>738912875So aside from you outing yourself as a retard for saying Asmongold the Roach King himself is alt-right, Grummz is stupid for defending the retard handler when the reasonable handler was everything she should've been, and was in the same game no less.
>>738905950the developers choose the locations present in the game.
>>738915101so a hardcore game is one targeted at hardcore gamers, it's not that the game itself is somehow hardcore, it's about the audience for it.okay, thinking about it that way, it's a bit roundabout, but it's a good definition. in the first place, if you were to try to attempt to figure what hardcore gaming is, you'd have a lot of trouble. i had been thinking about it that way before, so it was a little confusing, gaming is a leisure activity, how can it be hardcore? but it's not the game being hardcore, it's about being enjoyed by hardcore types.and yeah no monhun games tried it, the games are published by capcom, this a not a publisher that has products targeting hardcore gamers, therefore they do not make hardcore games.
>>738917761what's that other game next to it
>>738886332>a lot of good will>from World>and Riseahahahahahaha, made my day
>>738888767>it didn’t sell really badly >goes on to describe how it sold really badly
>>738904747>Characters actually have namesshe has a name, your mc just never asked her what it was
>>738891510I like how you can see this loser cooking up le heckin revenge fantasies how they they point out wilds is trash that flopped
>>738914535Wilds was literally in the steam summer sale after launch at half off this was only several months after release
>>738917642Reeks of a bot post, focus mode exists
>>738891510/v/ won't. wilds is shit and can't be saved, hopefully b team saves us
>>73888876795% of people who bought wilds were buying their first monster hunter game.the real reason most people dropped it is because there are better games now. if wilds was released ten years ago it would be extremely popular. meanwhile monster hunter has barely changed at all, it's basically nostalgia kibble for boomers at this point
>>738918484This is cope, wilds is awful as a video game. It has focus mode instead of being an actual game it’s essentially auto play mobile slop
>>738918547>focus mode badprior to focus mode, the best way to aim slightly to the left was to sheathe your weapon and walk for a short distancethe game has issues with its control scheme, it needs a total rework, focus mode was just a bandaid. capcom is in a shitty position where their core audience won't let them keep up with innovations, meanwhile new players (understandably) think the controls that haven't changed in 99 years are clunky and bad, it is a lose lose situation. no wonder they didn't invest heavily into DLC for it, leadership is probably already aware of these problems and is trying to quietly sunset the franchise because there's no way forward
>>738914187it was a bad faith post to begin with, Olivia is some tertiary character and the design isn't even that bad. Might as well complain about the fat black shop woman in Tri.Grummz had a good run in like the first year, after that he posted shit he had no understanding off
>>738918863>prior to focus mode, the best way to aim slightly to the left was to sheathe your weapon and walk for a short distanceThat is not true.Monster hunter did not have an “issue” with its control scheme. It’s the exact opposite. It’s basically the only action game with controls so robust it held up to fucking handheld controls. It’s a series that sold tens and tens of millions, it wasn’t some niche 1 mil series. It’s a normal ass game with above average controls. If you found any fault, you are simply horrendous at video games. Well luckily for you, you’ll always be stuck in your shit body with shit hand eye coordination and decaying, smooth brain matter. So you’ll always be able to see everyone else shitting on wilds phone controls and by extension, you, until you kill yourself
>>738918863>capcom’s best selling game ever has controls that make it hard for new players to get it “No”
>>738919032I don't know about that bit about the handheld controls. People getting claw hand from how you had to hold the controller to control the camera while still being able to actually fight wasn't exactly what I'd call user friendly controls, or even ergonomic ones.
>>738919031>Grummz had a good run in like the first yearNoEven during nostarious shitfest decade ago he had worst takes in history of humanity
>>738919132>People getting claw hand from how you had to hold the controller to control the camera while still being able to actually fightThis is not unique to monster hunter you absolute retard. It’s any game with right stick analog camera controls and face buttons that have action commands (a fuck load of them).
>>738874998>>738875149PS5 barrier proved too strong...
>>738919032>the controls don't have an "issue" [sic] >because the controls are robust>the series sold many copies, therefore the controls are averageall you did is make up your own retarded definition of control issue. just arguing semanticsnaturally, you missed the entire point when you went off on an autistic rant about, i shit you not, "monster hunter akchually has good controls if we define that word in this specific way"
focus mode removes depth from the game because you no longer have to take controlling your character into accountit's part of what made MH combat deeply satisfying and focus mode makes it FUCKING BORING
>>738918438Focus mode isnt intrusive like claw wasYou can play without it Meanwhile playing without claw meant missing a ton of damage from headbangs and a lot of the hit zones were basically unusable without tenderizing
>>738919615>focus mode removes depth from the game because you no longer have to take controlling your character into accountDoes focus mode dodge attacks for me?
>>738919217Well retard you can't say Monster Hunter had good controls when the controls were unfriendly to actual human hands when in use. That means they weren't particularly good if you couldn't hold the controller in a manner that didn't cause actual physical pain to operate.
>>738919217>our game's controls lead to hand cramps and potentially cause permanent physical injury >but other old boomer games also do this>therefore nothing is wrongyou are retarded. nta
>playing greatsword in mh worldin real life, when i throw a dart i can change the direction at the last moment. when i throw a punch, i can pull it at the last moment. when i thrust a spear, i can change all sorts of motions and even at the last moment adjust it up to ten degrees. when i dance, i can rotate almost halfway every time i take a step.but in monster hunter, once i begin an animation, i have to finish or quit out of the entire combo to adjust my direction. why did devs decide to make it like this?
>>738919812I can in fact say monster hunter had good controls because it is in fact true. It’s so true that it’s basically the only complex action game that was capable of benign enjoyed on handheld systems.
>>738919528>monster hunter actually has good controlsThis is objectively true, at least. Prior to wilds, where it now has bad controls.
>>738920068You can't actually do any of those things
>>738919821This post kind of sums up why wilds had such poor sales. Their defense of focus mode annihilating the core gameplay and turning into babby phone shit, is, I kid you not >um ackshully you’ll permanently cripple yourself otherwise
>>738919790Focus mode does help dodge attacks for you, you never need to take into account the direction your hunter is facing, which means you can always take the path of least resistance when avoiding attacks
>>738920329What part of wilds controls badly?>well I can move and aim freely instead of being animation lockedSo it objectively controls well, flawlessly even, and you're upset that it controls flawlessly
>>738920503If focus mode was good it would be an industry staple. It’s not. It only is….in literal phone games
>>738920405if it's those four, i personally can do all of them.
>>738920503You’ve never played monster hunter pre milds I see
>>738920545>If focus mode was good it would be an industry stapleWether or not a mechanic is good is independent of the amount of games that use it. What a profoundly moronic idea for you to even think, let alone share with the world.
>>738920406>Their defense of focus mode... isyou are hallucinating. capcom has never made any comments like this, not in any interview or blog. you are actually just making things up out of thin air, unbelievable
>>738920592Not an argument. Try again or shut the fuck up.
>>738920717>not an argument True, you do not have one, likely due to the lack of experience with the series
>>738914447No because you always have access to hit head, chest back legs.
>>738920762nta but he is saying your comment was an irrelevant non sequitur. and i agree. i would also say that it is likely to be wrong as well, at best it is conjecture
>>738920545In case you havent noticed a lot of games have lock-on
>>738920762>his "argument" is the saddest "no u" attempt in history I accept your concession.
>>738920858locking on is cheating.you can't lock on in real life
>>738920762Yes I haveMoreover if wilds controlled badly you could point to where the controls are weak instead of just being different than old titles. You cant, because the controls are objectively smoother and better
>>738920669No, it’s not. The basic analog control scheme that monster hunter now uses is an example. Same is the basic control scheme of using face or bumpers for attack (opposed to MH1’s horrible analog attack controls).If a certain control scheme works. It will get used. Like the basic analog control scheme. Left stick for movement, right for the camera. If focus was actually good, it would have been implemented years and years ago. After all, it’s basically a shooter controls with reticle aiming. But the thing is, this isn’t actually suited for third person action combat (or melee combat in general, such as Bethesda games having poor combat). You see, when shooters balance the ability to aim with a reticle, like focus mode, they have to actually take it into account. This is typically by having very small weak points (such as a human sized head) and including hordes of enemies. The exact opposite of monster hunter wilds. >but monster hunter has gunners Exactly, it doesn’t need to be applied to the melee weapons as well. And what has been a long standing criticism towards gunning? That it’s ez mode barely playing actual monster hunter. Focus mode basically makes everything a gunner weapon.
>>738904790What the fuck even is this color palette>mmm yeah baby all washed out gray>sometimes it's all washed out brown too!
nazis caused wilds to flop. it has>brown people culture>pro-environmental messaging>women who are not doormats
>>738920865Concession posting in 2026? About the biggest self own you can possibly exhibit, what’s next you’re going to hit me with a gamer rage comic or smug anime girl
>>738921023>desperately trying to regain some faceyou did a retarded thing and got called out.just leave gracefully instead of pathetically trying to save your ego
>>738920934>where the controls are weakThe entire core gameplay, to accommodate focus mode. Longsword for instance cannot micro adjust between swings like in every single game going all the way back from its original introduction. In order to make the same micro adjustments, you now need to use focus mode. You have to press more buttons to do the same thing that has always worked.The definition of clunky and bad controls.
>>738921078Homie you fucking concession posted in 2026. >regain faceThat would be retards like you still seething everyone thinks milds is dogshit a year later. Your game flopped and slopped
what is focus mode
>>738920968>No, it’s notYes, it is. I'm literally not even gonna read the rest of your retard screed because it all stems from your initial stupid misconception, therefore your entire argument is stupid.
>>738920968>But the thing is, this isn’t actually suited for third person action combatObjectively is given how smoothly it works in MH wilds
I can’t wait to play Rise 2
>>738921149Basically reticle aiming, where you can freely turn your character like it’s a shooter, where it’s main mechanic outside of controlling like a shooter is it put your reticle over the glowing red circles and press button for cool thing, very phone coded
>>738921149Slow down time and hit the glowing weak spot for massive damage
>>738921145>everyone who calls me retarded is the same guypathetically trying to save your ego part 2: imaginary persecution
>>738921182But it does not work smoothly, kind of why wilds sold like shit and more people would rather play world. Like did you even see ops image? Wild flopped lmao
>>738886604This is also what killed ubisoft. I think game studios ignore how influential the core is when it comes to taste making. If you focus test in isolation the npc may love it but once you preface it with enthusiast criticism they switch. Also wilds was a shit stream game because it was full of long, boring cutscenes so all the zoomers didn't want it.
>REEEEEEEEEE YOU CAN'T USE THAT WORD THIS YEARImagine melting down this hard because you couldn't provide an argument lmfaoJust be less stupid from now on, dipshit.
>>738921256Homie you don’t fool anyone.Wilds is hated by everyone, it sold like shit, Occam’s razor suggests there isn’t multiple “people” defending fucking monster hunter wilds. What do you think that ffxv guy is multiple people too? You’re a schizophrenic lolcow
>>738921321Now he’s fucking vagueposting he’s so mad. Could try not posting decade’s old memes if you don’t want to get made fun of
>>738886604You missed the fucked up multiplayer. Non-fans would have been onboard if they could friendslop the game, but Wilds made everything about playing through the story actively hostile to multiplayer.
>>738921149Aiming mode from ranged weapon, but for melee weapons.
>>738921286>Wilds sold like shit because of its controls and not because it was a broken buggy mess with a shitty story and no endgameOK retard.
>>738921180See>>738920968This post is true
>>738921431That’s mostly irrelevant, world also ran like shit on release, and forever for base ps4 (its best selling system). Base ps4 world struggles to even hit 30 fps let alone maintain it.No, the actual fundamental problem with wilds, is that it’s gameplay is shit
>people making fun of me are defending WildsLMFAO delusional retard, no wonder you can't produce a cogent argument.We're just making fun of you, moron. Wilds makes me physically ill. Get a new cope.
>>738921185will there ever be a monster hunter game where they just throw you into it and let you hunt monsters?i tried playing rise after world, it was a really harsh experience.maybe i didn't notice the tutorials in the first monster hunter game i played, but, when i played rise it felt like i was being handheld for hours and hours. tutorial hell.it didn't help that the multiplayer is completely dead.
>>738921535Vagueposting graduated into vagueposting with an all caps LMFAO>you’ll never be this mad Of course wilds makes you ill, you get this heated defending it
>>738921456Yeah, I saw it. It's wrong. Try again but without being a retard this time.
>>738921598Holy seethe, you can’t make an effort post because you’re an ESL incel
>>738921574What? You can hop in the gathering hub minutes after creating a save in Rise.
>>738921574It takes all of 5 minutes to get to the Gathering hall in Rise and start playing online with friends, what the fuck are you talking about? The singleplayer village quests are not for multiplayer.
>>738921598See>>738920968You’re supposed to read it
>>738921286But it did work smoothly, so smoothly that boomers constantly seethe about just how well it worksIf focus mode actually didnt work well you just wouldnt use it and nothing would change
>>738921646Your argument is shit, bud. Make a good argument and you won't have to be angry about getting called out for your shitty arguments. It's literally that easy.
>>738921701See>>738921180I'm not reading it because the initial premise is stupid, therefore the entire argument is stupid. I'm not reading a stupid argument. Make a non-stupid one.
>>738921702>if focus mode didn’t work wellWilds would have sold like shit, which is what happened.>wouldn’t use it an nothing would changeSee, that’s flat out incorrect. >>738921089Is an example, you cannot actually control your hunter the way you always have. You actually have less control over your character in wilds, unless you use focus mode. You have to use the new mode to control like the old one that’s just indefensible game design.Now, it’s true, this isn’t actually a result of focus mode. It’s just a result of wilds being poorly made. They could have focus mode and still allow weapons to retain their ability to micro adjust, but that’s not milds. But of course, you didn’t know that, because you never played the series prior to milds
>>738921702Careful, the GS janny will delete your post and send you a warning or ban you
>>738921739>argument You do not know what an argument See>>738920968This is not an argument. It is an explanation for why focus does not work. Are you saying that shooters don’t often have small weak points like human heads? Are you saying that dual analog controls, one for camera, one for movement, isn’t common? You’re not saying anything, you’re not presenting any objective facts, you’re not presenting an argument either.You’re just seething like a retarded bitch because reality itself is oppressive to you. Like a tranny. It’s not an “argument” that you’re actually a man, or that you’re a loser who will kill themselves. It simply “is”. And you can’t even come back with a based effort post, because you are an ESL loser living in a shithole.
>>738875149>milds is so ass it didn’t hit top ten bahahahahaha
>>738922107>Capcom proceeds every quarter of 2026 to move their ranking to top 15 then top 20 to keep Milds displayedLol
>>738921826You can still micro adjust without focus modeAnd even without focus mode they made a lot of weapons flow better. Like shortcuts to charging your shield on CB or easier to morph slash on SwaxeAgain, the game objectively controls better than ever before.
If Wilds fans love it so much I say we bar them from buying any future titles only people we refused to buy get to play the next entry in the series. Wilds lovers get to play their favorite brown worshiping game forever.
>>738921980I don't have to present an argument you dumb fuck, I'm not the one trying to prove anything. You're the one trying to prove that focus mode is bad because not enough developers use it. That's an argument that you made that you are now trying to disavow because you've finally realized how fucking stupid it is. Congratulations, your brain grew three sizes today. One day it may actually fill your entire skull.
>>738877667basic measure of success>reach a limit, next milestone is achieving something bigger and surpassing said limittoddler measure of success>big number look big, must be a success
>>738922240>I sayNo one cares what you say redditfrog posting retard.
>>738921826>you cannot actually control your hunter the way you always have. You actually have less control over your character in wilds, unless you use focus mode.I would post webms to prove you wrong but you already deleted three of my posts including one that already did that so I'll refrain from wasting time
>>738922246>i don’t have You don’t have much of anything really, probably why you’re an incel who will kill themselves. Bonus points for being an ESL thirdie
>>738922204>You can still micro adjust without focus modeNo, you can’t. You can hard hold left stick 90 degrees between swings after an LS draw slash and you will not get the small 5 degree or some adjustment that you had in prior games. The worst part is it’s not even consistent. I note “after draw slash” because for some reason you can actually make giant adjustments without focus with draw slash, even being able to turn 180 degrees, when you could not have done so prior. The control system just fucking sucks. You have less control most of the time without focus but then on some random attacks they give you 360 degree adjustment.
>>738922313No, you could not.
>>738921346my first post was >>738920857 and then later >>738921078 and >>738921256 . the other posts are different people. i am not the guy you were arguing about wilds with, at no point did i ever say i was: you imagined this entirely, it is a fiction that you believe is reality.the real situation here is that multiple people are saying you are a stupid retard, over and over again.you also even made a mistake using occam's razor (lol lmao). sasuga retard-kun
>>738922753>multiple quote chain >iSeething lolcow
Whats the appeal of buying early to get on the train and play multiplayer with others when multiplayers turns the game into Eldern Ring + mimic tear + summons. Its just too fucking easy if you re not a girl or a kid. Also they re kinda copypasting instead of growing their formula which can get stale since fighting different monsters kindof becomes the same thingtheres so much to do. just like pokemon or any successful brand they will do literally nothing until people buy less and less, cope by adidng trannies and gyas in the game, blame the market and nothing will get better ever
>leave monster hunter... to me.
>>738922563>you can actually make giant adjustments without focus with draw slash, even being able to turn 180 degrees, when you could not have done so priorThanks for confirming again the game controls much better
>>738874998I hate wilds so much it gives me actual fear about the future of the series.Good thing all the competition is dead.Wild Hearts snuffed outToukiden doneGod Eater gonePhantasy Star goneSoul Sacrifice deadFreedom Wars deadRagnarok odyssey deadVindictus deadRaiderZ deadetcMonster Hunter fans were so smart and smug about there series being so good, they refused to play any other game in the genre. Now we're left with this shit.Imagine a world where Wild Hearts kept getting updates or God Eater wasn't passed off as kusoge or Phantasy Star wasn't dropped by people after NGS. We could be enjoying so many Hunting games.
>>738903670>Great Lance/ Gun Lance>get every single defensive decoration there is >laugh as his OHKO attacks do chip damage to me with my shield upSure, the clear speed sucks compared to meta damage builds but at least I completed the fucking hunt
>>738921680>>738921649when i last played, there were five (5) multiplayer rooms online. that was around this time last year. i didn't say that the servers were kill. of course if you bring your friends then as long as the server is not shut down you can play with them. but if you don't supply the players you aren't playing mp. that's what i mean.
>>738923406notice something in common? all those games are shit. maybe there's a reason all these games don't take off? maybe, just maybe, it's a shit genre? it's practically more of a graveyard than CRPGs(PS was all right)
>>738923630All of them are shit, so only one must remain until that is shit. Then we all jerk off until we kill ourselves.
>>738923458This is how we know Wilds was slop: this guy should have timed out
>>738923406>Good thing all the competition is dead.That's not a good thing at all, it just creates the Pokemon problem where one franchise dominates its genre no matter how shitty and low effort it becomes
>>738923121That makes it worse actually.Only people with no skill want this.
>>738923630> Soul Sacrifice sucksthis is new to me, I've had it in my top 10 since I played through it.Delta is better than most MH games.
>>738875149Resident Evil Chads eating good
>>738923758
>>738923803I wish I liked the new RE games. Even the remakes of the classics are eh.I liked the remake for Gamecube back then but other than that I feel like the series has gotten less horror over time. I will however give props to RE7 in VR. That is an experience everyone should have. I think it's sadly still restricted to PSVR however.
>>738919327I am a Switch fag, but I think that was Capcom blaming their shit game on the Ps5, despite it having a PC release.Still, I find hilarious that Snoys seethed so much about that statement that they miss translated the Nintendo's President Q&A to include the word barrier kek
>>738923406monster hunter was proto crafting survival before people got the pattern right. use the dino bone to make the weapon to kill the bigger dino to unlock the recipe to make...the stuff about combos was not really what most people were there for. they wanted outfits and weapons and the hunting part was just part of the grind, the point of it was never the action because the combat sucks, it's about equipment autism
>>738874998Portable Team will save the franchise. Again.
>>738923992>Portable team somehow has to build off of and improve this shitty genI'm so glad someone still believes in miracles
they should make monster hunter a live service game
>>738924094We've had Frontier and Online.There's also the upcoming phone game.
>>738923992The same people who thought turning Rise into a shitty tower defense game and then linking it hard to it's end game was a good idea? Lmao fuck off.
>>738924204will phone games save monster hunter?
>>738924240Do you think Monster Hunter Now saved the series?
They should keep focus mode as part of Lance's kit but remove it for everyone else.
>>738924232>turning Rise into a shitty tower defense game and then linking it hard to it's end game was a good idea?That never happened unless somehow you were a faggy rampage weapon user
>>738924339Focus mode should include an auto scrolling feed of japanese MH tiktoks.
>>738922563So first you say you can't micro but now you admit you can actually micro, just in different places compared to previous games, the truth is Wilds simply nerfed the directional adjustments for some strings while relaxing some other strings, which (ironically) means on average weapons actually have MORE commitment than they did in the past outside of Focus Mode.The truth of the matter is that Wilds lets you micro MORE than previous entries did especially thanks to Focus Mode, which is why you and the rest of your pathetic kind are actually bitching and do so in every single thread you make, changing how some parts of a moveset work because of an entirely new paradigm and control system is not only fair game but logical game design, it's the same reason why monsters are way more mobile and aggressive than previous games, do you also bitch and moan about post 4 RE games not having tank controls?Also how come you conveniently gloss over on how all weapons in Wilds got new positional adjustments with built in sidesteps and direction based combos?Are you gonna ban me for "trolling" now after exposing you a second time? I already made multiple screenshots of that by the way, to preemptively embarrass you in any future thread you try to pull this bullshit again and delete other people's posts, do you want me to whip out PPSSPP to show you how FU actually plays?I can do that as well, you can keep deleting my posts and I will keep posting actual facts.
>>738922240Who the fuck posts like this? Why are Wilds haters so deranged and cringe? It's sad...
>>738924376>P-please ignore how important Rampage Tickets were before SunbreakDo all the people that suck off Rise so fucking hard actually ever play it?
>>738922240This is actual cringe. Saw that reply and like yikiesboy out here being crimgo in 2026
>>738924476NTA but I literally ignored rampages and rampage weapons for the entity of Rise while >m-muh metafags were stewing in their own shit grinding them over and over again.
>>738924616you needed Rampage tickets for several non-Rampage weapon trees, plus a lot of layered armor setsyou just completely ignore all that, huh?
>>738924476I love Rise because I wasn't a meta bitchboy like you and never did more rampages than necessary per savefiles.I also waited for the steam port when the game had a beefier endgame, you know, with AT monsters and Valstrax.
>>738924616I did rampages because it was easier than do apex fights 10 times
>>738924407>No response to thishmmm, for how active the "focus mode BAD!!!!" shitters are, they sure went quiet all of a sudden...
>>738924929So hang on, you can just judge Rise post TU's and use that as your frame of reference, while everyone else in this thread just judges Wilds as it launched? Why is that?
>>738922261so by this measure then, Rise was a catastrophic failure because it was getting outsold by World for most of it's life
>>738924958Focus mode not good
>>738925132so address this >>738924407
>>738925162Not involved in yalls affairs; I just dont care for focus and hope it doesnt return.
>>738924958If you ever get your posts deleted and get a "trolling" warning for writing down and posting proof of actual facts in future MH threads just now it's the butthurt GS trannyjanny here>>738900006>>738900294>>738900523that shits his pants whenever he's exposed as a total fucking fraud
>>738924407>the truth is Wilds simply nerfed the directional adjustments They didn’t just “nerf”. They outright removed.>The truth of the matter is that Wilds lets you micro MOREThis is not true, you just admitted as such and you are contradicting yourself >especially thanks to Focus ModeYou literally disprove your own point.Wilds literally removed the ability to make micro adjustments without focus mode, and now you have to use focus mode to make adjustments that you could already have done prior to focus existing.This is what I have stated numerous times. Focus is objectively a bad control scheme, you are now pressing more buttons and having more controller real estate set…to do something you were already capable of doing. I like how you seemed to recognize this horrific contradiction so you then spent the rest of the post on utterly inane and unrelated strawmans. No one ever mentioned resident evil. I am not your boogeyman.
>>738925290That's pretty funny but I get banned on /mhg/ for talking about the game while others post porn. It is nice to have a janny on our side for once that understands the core of the series.
>>738925006I do not own the Mario handheld and even if I did I wouldn't have played Rise on it because it is a worst experience graphic wise.
>>738925290I once got banned for posting princess maker screenshots as not video games related
>>738924958>an entire novel explaining why focus is bad in this thread alone >after wilds has been out for over a year and why it has constantly been demonstrated why focus is bad >after wilds keeps failing to retain players due to its busted core gameplay >huh looks like no one can say focus is le bad wilds homies, focus is cooked, your game is cooked, if focus was good people would play milds
>>738874998I liked the new perfect dodge bowfaggotry. It is quite fun and you can aurafarm with a bow in your hand and perfectly dodge a one shit cart mon attack. Counters were also fun
>>738924476Rampage weapons were NEVER meta, and grinding narwa for melding mats was way more common.None of it mattered once TU1 dropped only one month later. You're trying to incorrectly describe an incredibly tiny moment in the entirety of Rise's lifespan.
>>738923121Being able to have perfect control at all times leads to a bad game. Rocket league is an example of how constraints to mobility and directions lead to good gameplay. Rocket league couldn’t exist if you could fully decelerate and turn on a dime.
>>738898581Nigga just valor dodge, adept evade or use absolute arts, there, you are literally invencible and have no reason NOT to be in felyne heroics 24/7
>>738925530>an entire novel explaining why focus is bad in this thread alone >after wilds has been out for over a year and why it has constantly been demonstrated why focus is bad see the problem is this almost all completely false, except for allowing more control in melee combatof course, the devs cranked up monster movement and aggression to compensate, which hilariously leads to shitters (probably like you) crying about "M-MUH FAKE DIFFICULTY" and pretending Omega and AT Ark are just "shit fights that aren't even REAL MH" to make themselves feel better
>>738925579>None of it mattered once TU1 dropped only one month later. You're trying to incorrectly describe an incredibly tiny moment in the entirety of Rise's lifespan.You mean like everyone who cries about how easy Wilds was?
>>738898859The ugly shota is shit, yes
>>738925725It is not false. It is true, hence why wilds is widely regarded a bad game that sold poorly and why you’re going insane
>>738925579Correct - rampage were side grades at best for a couple of weapons at launch and were extremely easy to get and make. For 3 weeks Narwa was farmed and Narga was best for most weapons and elemental was Zin/Almu/Barioth/Ibushi. TU1 and onward gave us Tigrex and Chammy meta for some weapons and buffed Narga even more. We also received Apexes outside Rampage etc etc. The people saying it was tower defense endgame for a year literally did not play the game lmao.
>>738925725>omega >AT ArkNice self own, no human being played this shit. Wilds lost 99.9% of its players in a fucking month.
>>738925813couldn't beat Savage Omega huh
>>738874998Say, I'm a newbie in the franchise. I only ever played Monster and Rise, and even so I never really got past high rank. Not because I got filtered or anything, I just stopped playing. What game would you recommend me to play?
>>738874998I hope you realize when Capcom sees the no legs numbers of Wilds, they dont think "what we did wrong?" but the opposite "We did so good that we reached our cap of current expected buyers, we better shake things so we can reach a new audience!"
>>738925867World, and if you liked it then Wilds after
>>738925290LMAO the tranny janny is malding
>>738908692I'm telling you there's no mizutsune in 4
>>738925384>to do something you were already capable of doing. are you claiming you could move as freely without focus mode as you can with?>no butso its not what you could already do then
>>738925860I did not buy milds, because there was a beta
>>738925790It took well over half a year before anything even remotely resembling a challenge was added to wilds. Rise was content complete in only 2 months on the switch and the PC, PS4, and XBox versions all launched with everything.
>>738925928>are you [retarded strawman]Yikes, you’re so fucked up when the basic format of your posts are wrong. You can’t make the micro adjustments that have always existed without focus mode.
>>738926000>content completeit didn't even launch with a fucking ending, holy shit you guys go to bat for Rise way too fucking hard
>>738925867Portable 3rd and then Rise.
>>738925910>just realized I wrote "Monster and Rise" instead of "World and Rise"Goddamn I hate being a dyslexic retard, sorry anonsI played World and Rise, and I quite liked them. I don't think my PC can run Wilds so that'll have to wait until I get an upgrade. I asked the question thinking mostly about older titles
>>738925725>more control = good See>>738925657Rocket league would be destroyed as a game if you had “”””more control””””.
>>738925290Possibly fake but this would not surprise me at all it’d explain why some fags are allowed to just doompost and samefag 24/7
>3, swimming is bad!>4, mounting is bad!>World, healing while walking and camp restocking is bad!>Rise, wirebugs are bad!>Wilds, focus mode is bad!I got to hand it to the MH team, they kept making new gimmicks with each new game despite the push back against them because of the "old good, new bad" mentality. But then again without them each game would be the exact same as each other, which could arguably makes them more boring.
>>738926130Oh older titles? Then yeah what >>738926121said and start with P3rd, maybe GU if you want a game that has 10,000 quests or whatever
>>738926183>trying to lump in focus with added mechanics Focus is a control scheme overhaul. It’s not the same and will never be accepted the same way no one likes analog attack controls in 1
>>738926092Wilds didnt launch with a final boss, hub or arena and had to wait for TU1
>>738926135>comparing Monster Hunter, of all fucking games to Rocket Leaguethis is like comparing apples to, I dunno, farm tractors
>>738875149They've milked the IP til it's bone dry. It was never even good enough for this level of overexposure. And even with the overexposure, they were too stupid to make the slam dunk move of porting Diary to modern platforms and bringing it to the west when it would do numbers with the Animal Crossing/Pokopia/Tomodachi audience.
>>738926183Clutch claw is the worst offender and it was added in Iceborne.Maybe they'll one up CC in the wilds G rank.
>>738926034You can though, as the webm without focus mode showed
>>738925384>They didn’t just “nerf”. They outright removed.They outright removed what?Here's a clip from World LS by the way, using the same exact moves.Go ahead and tell me what was removed in Wilds.>This is not trueIt is true, which is why you keep desperately samefagging and making shit up, how long until you will delete my other posts out of shame? I'm screenshotting everything as we speak fyi, go ahead and try to do it again.>Wilds literally removed the ability to make micro adjustments without focus modeThey LITERALLY added more micro adjustments you stupid retard, shit like S&S can now sidestep in multiple directions whenever during your normal string, Hammer can selectively charge golf swings whenever, CB has new directional fade slash in axe mode and so on, NONE of which involve focus mode, focus mode only gives you MORE micro on top of that because you know, monsters actually move around now instead of staying still to eat your draw charge slash.>Focus is objectively a bad control scheme, you are now pressing more buttons and having more controller real estate set…to do something you were already capable of doing.No, you're pressing ONE button (either one time as a switch or holding the button as much as you like) to swap between entirely different aiming systems, one of which allows you to do even more things you actually weren't able to do in previous games, which is why you turn around and bitch about the game being "too easy" now because outside of having access to entirely new options you can also actually aim more precisely, which apparently removes the """"""""""commitment""""""""""" your dumb troglodyte ass NEEDED by YOUR OWN ADMISSION to headlock dumb fucking animatronics that could only turn 90° at a time.You are a terminal liar and a fucking clown and samefagging and banning people like me for standing up to your insane reactionary bullshit with no basis in reality won't save you from being a fucking clown.
>>738926092Are you retarded?Do you have any reading comprehension at all?
>>738926183It is the inevitable fate of any 20+ year running franchise to be INFESTED with autists that hate change.>see also: Pokemon players complaining you don’t have to switch a Pokemon in and out for it to gain exp
>>738926393>>738926416He double posted with his phone and pc, pathetic
>>7389262988 Star Arkveld was the final boss of HR, Wounded Hollow was in at the start (unless you mean the actual Arena mode, then yeah that's true)More importantly though was that the story actually got ended properly before needing any TUs, unlike Rise where you watched Narwa fall into the ground and everyone just sorta, shrugged their shoulders lol
>>738926416I have never once used the word commitment, is this a bot?
>>738926092Yes yes, we knowPlaying and liking Rise today is forbidden because allmother wasn't in the game for 2 months on one version of the game 5 years ago.
>>738926545Flagship are not the final boss and have never been. You are reaching. Zoh shia is the boss and did not have gear at launch, hub did not exist, arena did not exist and the fucking canteen didnt exist at launch. Crucial series staples were not there at release.
>>738926294Wirebug was also a movement and attack overhaul, you can't play the game without engaging with that mechanic, what's your point?Assuming focus mode will even stay on the next game, people would just move on to hating the next new gimmick.
>>738875149what is ltd?
>>738926416In wilds you cannot make the 5 degree micro adjustment between the basic LS swings**unless you use focus Which is precisely the problem with wilds as a whole. It has bad core gameplay. Adjustments that were possible for literal decades now cannot be done unless you use the new feature. The definition of bad designI do like how the last half of your post devolved into pure saturated seethe though. You can never force 2+2 to equal 5.
>>738926472Nothing screams Monster Hunter more than hopping on my seikret, beelining toward the boss while grabbing free healing along the way.And check this : the cat talks!
>>738926667I’m nta what is the point of harping on about this the monster and hub got added quickly and I was just killing shit for fun and crown hunting in the interim. It was a lot worse in Rise, no layered armor so everyone looked the same, final boss armor was non functional because the mixed set gimmick wasn’t in yet either. And launch Rise was way easier there wasn’t even a Gore Magala equivalent.
>>738926826>please note that it's okay when Rise did it
>>738926712Nope. Wirebugs are one aspect of the game. It’s a singular feature. It also, can be ignored. It is not an all encapsulating control scheme like focus mode is. Focus is not a mere gimmick, it is the bedrock of every single aspect of gameplay. Which is why wilds turned out so fucking bad, why it fails to outsell rise of all things, why it fails to retain players The core gameplay is bad, because the foundation (focus), is bad.
>>738926853>irrelevant babblingGo talk to someone else in this thread
>>738926857I had to control the dog instead of watching netflix on my phone. If I took the dog at all.
>>738926667you killed Arkvled, Nata realizes he was a giant dumbass and moves to his stump for the rest of eternity as some kind of penance and the rest Guild celebrates your victory.What exactly were the consequences of watching Narwa fall into the ground? What was resolved before Allmother?
>>738898859If they only make this character a little blond girl guys would be bending over backwards to defend this game.
>>738926853>quicklyIt took 2-3 months. In that same time frame Rise had ALL of its extra content fully rolled out, not just allmother.
>>738926894>Nope. Wirebugs are one aspect of the game. It’s a singular feature. It also, can be ignoredholy fuck, what the shit am I readinglike even if you never used a Wirebug for movement, like every single weapon had so many moves tied to Wirebugs as part of like their basic kitlike are you telling me you never once used, I dunno fucking HELM BREAKER on LS for example lmao
>>738926924It’s irrelevant babbling to compare the games launch states in a discussion about the launch states but somehow it’s relevant to cry about the release state of a game that came out over a year ago in the first place lmao
>>738914010>people more interested in a new game over a soulless cash grab demakeyeah, it's a real shocker
>>738927085You can’t even wyvern dive on IG without bugs. This thread is enlightening, it really is just one dude openly trying to control the discourse around these games isn’t it?
>>738927090Wilds did not launch with a canteen, arena, final boss gear or hub. Rise did not have allmother at launch. You arent arguing anything. >>738926962>More irrelevant babblingGo talk to >>738926853
>>738927085>>738927141SnS needed Wirebugs to do Metsu, SA needs them to use the ZSD Follow Up, Bow needed them for like half it's fucking moveset...Ever feel like you are the only one in these fucking threads that actually played World, Rise and Wilds?
>>738926894You can ignore using focus mode the same way you can ignore using wirebugs.
The casual appeal of Worlds was that a high-tier unattainable property "bent the knee" to the masses. Members of the imperial core love that shit, when other cultures bow to them willingly.But they're also completely used to being wandered to. They have a constant stream of movies and games and TV shows all racing to the bottom to provide a second of cheap entertainment. When Wilds was done in the actual westslop style, instead of being a proud, exotic property that was momentarily debating itself, that lost the interest of the westerners. Not only because there are a million works of that nature constantly competing for attention in the imperial core, but because no foreigner should dare attempt to replicate the SUBTLETIES AND NUANCES of TRVE western works like GoW and TLoU. It's both a natural reaction to the formula not being very novel, and a class reaction to foreigners attempting to genuinely supplant western institutions.
>>738927085I did in fact use helm breaker, no one said that. Wirebugs are simply not an all encompassing aspect of the gameplay, like focus is. You can samefag all you want but it’s just true. It’s a mere gameplay element.Not the actual, fundamental, control scheme.
Things that can't be ignored and players are forced to interact with, even if they don't really want>swimming>4 mounting, magical stones>crutch claw>ChocoboThings that can easily be ignored>cat companions>Styles and hunter arts>Wirebugs>Focus mode
>>738927328No you cannot because wilds nerfed the base hunter ability to micro correct
>>738926809>In wilds you cannot make the 5 degree micro adjustment between the basic LS swings*You quite literally can, as you can see (again) herehttps://streamable.com/cmoj71posted in full resolution even so you can't weasel out, 9 swings to rotate 90° from the starting position, do the math, I can do this all day retard.And yes, I -AM- mad that subhuman schizo liars like you are not only censoring people but are trying to convince others that they're the holy gatekeepers of the franchise while you admit you hate anything past the 3DS and keep lying about games you either are too stupid to play or do not even play.You're the reason 4chan became fucking unusable and we can't have good threads about anything anymore, you are the fucking cancer that has been killing this place for over 15 fucking years and I wish I could fucking strangle you from all over the internet.Go ahead and delete my posts to save face like you did before, I dare you.
>>738927390It is futile.Swimming is merely one aspect of gameplay. It is not all encompassing like focus mode is. This is your only defense, trying to deflect to other games.
>>738925006Big difference is people kept playing Rise long enough to experience the TUs, but everybody dropped Wilds before the first TU ever came out and never looked back.
>>738924376nta but you are required to do more than just one of those "shitty tower defenses" to beat the story they are designed around co-op and multiplayer with randoms is dead (always has been).
>>738927379>Wirebugs are simply not an all encompassing aspect of the gameplaythis is objectively false, and it's super easy to prove once you look at how many weapons end game builds were all about using Wirebugs as much as fucking possible, especially in Sunbreak (almost all of them)
>>738927468>schizophrenic rambling And the projection on top of it, you got caught laying and are now backpedaling hard
>>738927539Two. You are required to do exactly two.
>>738927569do you not realize he never once used focus mode in this post >>738924407? is that what's going on here? Or did you actually realize that was the case and are just trying to do whatever you can to change the subject?
>>738927569Oh yeah, I got caught "laying" with your mom alrightThanks for showing everyone how you're literally denying reality again you stupid fuck
>>738927568>objectively false Wirebugs are something you have access to, using your controls. They are not the control scheme itself.This is objective fact. It’s a mere gameplay element. It is a very important one, that is true. But it is not the actual, fundamental, foundation of gameplay. That being the actual fucking control scheme
>>738927052I am pretty sure you are getting PC release schedule confused with Switch, it definitely took longer to get everything in Rise and there was less of it
>>738927638>>738927641>he>everyoneHe’s double posting again, schizo lolcow
>>738925290actual greatsword gameplay is a lot like that in worlddoes focus mode fix this in wilds? i didn't play it because i saw brown people
>>738927642This is semantic hair splitting to an extreme degree, your damage would be lower in Rise not using wirebugs than it would be in Wilds refusing to focus mode
>>738927693Yeah, so about thatalso stop changing the subject (again)
>>738925006By the time rise launched on PC it sold 8 million units. I'll be generous and hazard a guess that it was at around 4-6 million by the time TU1 rolled out, meaning that about 1/4-1/2 of the total Rise playerbase ever actually experienced the game in its 1.0 state.On the flipside, Wilds was confirmed to have moved 10 million units before it's first TU. That's almost the entire current playerbase having experience with 1.0 wilds. It shouldn't be surprising that a lot of judgments will be made regarding its launch state due to the massively frontloaded sales and weak legs.
>>738927614you don't need to say you agree, i already know i'm right (that's why i submitted a post)
>>738927803>he’s claiming he doesn’t know what double posting is Homie you have your phone and pc, you’re already admitting to ban evading
>>738927539You can solo rampages really easily though, just hit the gong and summon my wife.
>>738927803He will never do that because he's already been exposed multiple times.Screenshotting all of this for future reference by the way, and whenever I'll be around to see your sorry ass trying to shitpost like this again I will remind people of what you are, GS Janny, you'll never live this down.
>>738927775>This is semantic hair splitting to an extreme degreeThis is LITERALLY what you are doing. You’re trying to equate a control scheme to a singular gameplay element, and failing
>>738927871You really don't have answer huh? The dude showed you 100% proof that you can still micro LS moves without Focus Mode, and instead of acknowledging you were wrong you start this bizarre schizoid metldown that has lasted several hours.
>>738924407>which (ironically) means on average weapons actually have MORE commitment than they did in the pastno they don't>outside of Focus Mode.don't be outside focus mode>but then it's not like my childhood memories>but i already invested 6 million hours into previous games, why is it different?these are personal problems for (You) and you need to work them out on your own. other people don't have issues the way you do
>>738927878>GONG>yoooOOOOOooooquintessential monster hunter rise
>>738927937Bro what is your fucking point? This difference doesn’t matter to actual gameplay, nobody who played Rise is not using the wirebugs like nobody who played Wilds is not using focus mode, they are both integral to the game design and you’re just drawing an arbitrary line in the sand
>>738927642>But it is not the actual, fundamental, foundation of gameplayactually dealing enough damage to knock Inflicted/Risen Monsters out of their Special Enrage is a pretty big foundation of Sunbreaks gameplay, good fucking luck doing that without ever using Wirebugs lmao
The truth is for MH game design they come up with a gimmick then build the entire game around it. When they come up with monsters they use GS and build the movesets around it and other weapons fall where they may.
>>738925052you're a retarded faggot toddler if you think Rise was slated against World, that's like saying the Corolla is a failure because it doesn't sell as much as a Camry, an apples to oranges argument that might make sense to your peanut sized, Wilds-enjoying brain, but not to me or anyone with basic reasoning skills, and I say all of this as someone who skipped rise and think it's garbage.
>>738927937no, he is pointing out (correctly) that wirebugs are a core part of the weapon. meanwhile, you are doing the equivalent of saying you don't need press the Y button to beat the game.
>>738928238rise is good tho
>>738928050The point has been made a million times.The control scheme is the foundation of how a game…plays. You can have other additional gameplay aspects, even ones that most see as a miss “swimming, mounting, claw, etc” but it can still be fine if the actual core gameplay experience is good.With wilds having its fundamental gameplay built upon its control scheme (focus), being bad, the whole gameplay experience is bad as a result. Hence the shit sales, shit reception, and you seething like a bitch
>>738928210i believe it
>>738928378except that unless you play IG (which does need to be in Focus like, 100% of the time for some odd reason) you can just NOT use focus mode lol
>>738928120>>738928323Gameplay mechanics are something that happen on top of a games base control scheme.You can do infinite mental gymnastics and samefag all you want, but anomaly investigation red bubbles aren’t a control scheme. Swimming has its own control scheme, but it isn’t the control scheme itself, merely a subset of the overall game (and I do want to point out, a big reason why people dislike swimming is SURPRISE THE CONTROL SCHEME IS USES IS BAD)Like, lolcow schizo, clutch claw is not a control scheme. Focus is a control scheme.
>>738928447You can not actually avoid focus mode, as the entire game is built upon it, being part of the games actual control scheme.Probably why no one plays milds and why it sucks
>>738928503are you implying the base control scheme for Wilds just... stops working outside of Focus mode? And you are the one calling ME a lolcow schizoid?!
>>738928238>Risebreak sold over 30 million>Wilds hit a wall and stopped selling while being the golden child with all the budget and marketing and propped as the flagship entry to a new generation>Mildsissies claim Rise is a flop because even though its catching up to World sales at an insane pace outselling it every quarter for over 2 years - it is actually a failure.
>>738927986>micro ls movesYou don’t even understand what’s being said and think resetting to neutral is the same as an in combo micro adjustment. It is a subtle distinction so I don’t blame you but it’s pretty irrelevant to even discuss something with someone, when they don’t even know what is being discussed. Because they are a newfaggot who started with wilds.
>>738928378even with the best controls to date, wilds still can't keep up with modern gaming innovations. they're weighed down by fundamentally still being a monster hunter style game.people just don't want to type combos, it's not the 80s, that kind of brainless thing isn't popular anymore. you want to work on tactics, positioning, environment, equipment, coordination, all of these are much more interesting and engaging than pressing a b a b up down to make fireworks.
>>738928041Monster Hunter if it was made by the Japanese
>>738928610Essentially yes, wilds does “stop working”. It’s why no one plays the game. It’s bad
>>738928578I can easily beat 100% of Wilds story mode (and probably post game, actually) without ever using Focus. I mained LS and outside of like, extending the range on Roundslashes and aiming for wounds I never actually use it.I cannot say the same about Rise and avoiding Wirebugs, seeing as how Wirebugs are needed to do Helm Breakers and Serene Pose.
>>7389286174u fags are retarded, what else is new
>>738928610What he’s trying to say is>wirebug moves are attacks while focus mode works for everything But he’s an autistic retard and knows nobody cares about this difference which is why he’s resorting to salesfagging and steamchart posting, which I guess is actively facilitated by jannies now
>>738928729except that's wrong, see >>738924407 and address it now
>>738928578You literally can avoid it completely, unlike clutch claw and wirebugs. Way to out yourself.
>>738928737Of course you can, wilds is a bad game. It uses focus as its foundation after all
>>738928824>utterly failing at reading comprehension 0/10
>>738928901>no argumentI accept your concession, for the second time this thread :)
>>738928831beats having BINGBINGWAHOOO bugs as a core foundation
>>738928639LS TAwiki tranny reporting; I see what you're getting at and it affects alot of my runs.
>>738928503>everyone who says i am wrong is the same guymeds, schizo
I…I can’t handle this control scheme…I’m going back to 3dsSigned~The six fingered man
>>738927614and that is Two more times then World forces you into using Focus Mode kek
>>738929130You are forced to use focus a few times to get through the tutorial tho.
>>738929130World doesn't have focus mode.But since you brought up world, it forces you into the shitty zorah siege at least as many times as rampage does in rise.
>>738928975But it does not, because bingbugs are just one gameplay facet. Not an actual fundamental control scheme.Lol. Samefag harder lolcow
>>738929165you are wrong. you never need to use focus mode in World because that mechanic is from Wilds:)nta
>>738929213beat Risebreak without ever using them then
>>738928954Do you still call things amazeballs?
>>738928503>a big reason why people dislike swimming is SURPRISE THE CONTROL SCHEME IS USES IS BADPeople disliked swimming because the entire combat paradigm was bad to its core, the movesets themselves sucked ass and it wasn't even relevant for the vast majority of the monster roster, which is why Gobul in particular was completely memory holed from the series while even fucking Plesioth got brought back. The control scheme had nothing to do with anything just like how nobody complains about Focus Mode's controls, nobody's falling for your revisionist bullshit
>>738929253>replying to the schizo
>>738929270>because the entire combat paradigm was bad to its coreBecause it had to facilitate what anonThe base control scheme. Kind of like how wilds combat is bad to its core
>>738929270>nobody complains about Focus Mode's controlsbut people are always talking about focus mode in monster hunter wilds threadsthey are saying it's bad or somethingi didn't play wilds, but, isn't it just target locks that every other game figured out already? what took monster hunter so long
>>738929463It’s not like lock on it’s more like a shooter with aiming except baby mode
>>738929270>wilds fag calling anyone else revisionist Remember wildsissies said it was going to outsell world and rise combined?
>>738877625For the chubby kinkster/pawg mods
>>738929446It had to facilitate nothing, retard, it was a forced, half baked gimmick for three or four monsters in a game that also removed multiple weapons to add insult to injury.Controls have nothing to do with anything especially when it comes to focus mode which is also leaps and bounds better than swimming when it comes to controls in particular.>>738929463It's literally just LBG/HBG/Bow's aiming mode but for blademasters.
>>738929628>it had to facilitate nothing It had to facilitate the control concessions that come with having an entirely new axis of movement. Jesus Christ you can’t stick a SINGLE POINT. All of it is utterly insane, delusional, garbage
>>738929446>wilds combat is bad to its corewhy post your (unpopular) opinion?anon above already explained in detail that the combat is the best of any of the monster hunter games to date. the main issue wilds has is this: although the game is better, other games are even better still, it just couldn't compete in 2025.
>>738929712Anon his point is that despite changing the control scheme that isn’t the reason people hated swimming, it was the half assed and unbalanced movesets you had underwater
>>738929712>It had to facilitate the control concessions that come with having an entirely new axis of movement.Which had nothing to do with the controls themselves you fucking idiot, the controls were fine, underwater combat at its core was bad because, AGAIN>Anything outside of Lance had dogshit underwater movesets that made it a massive chore because the movesets themselves were poorly designed>90% of the mons didn't even go underwater so it was just a matter of suffering through the horrid underwater phases of Royal Ludroth/Gobul/Lagi/Ceadeus which nobody fucking liked for the aforementioned issue>They gutted multiple weapons out of the game for thatControls or a third axis have NOTHING to do with ANYTHING
>>738929550twinstick movement and camera aim has been around for a long time, though? is it just that they added a little reticle? that hardly seems like something to generate this much drama>>738929628i never played LBG, playing melee seems the right way to play monster hunter (for me)
>>738929712anon are you stupid, serious question
>>738930025MH boomers are very scared of anything changing in a 20 year old series
Post hammer
>>738930025>is it just that they added a little reticle?It's not really the reticle, Focus Mode adds some additional moves and also gives you a much wider range of aim adjustment on your core moveset, and yeah it more or less is twinstick moveset as again, it is literally just the gunners' aim mode but for blademasters.
>>738900523you know you can play valor style like guild right? in fact, it was meant to be played that way, the strong charge while in valor mode does as much damage as the strong charge in guild but you dont have to do set ups to get to it and you get an alternate gap closer if you press A before releasing charge (does 10% less damage tho). If you werent a poser you would've said you played striker with no arts for the real old school experience, or you could just use the real dogshit hunter arts like the other generic arts not named readiness or the gs exclusive ones but you probably think moonbreaker, brimstone slash and ground slash are overpowered, they are not (lions maw is just ok)regardless of how much of a fake you are regarding GU, I do agree that GreatSword in wilds is just a glorified fat LongSword with all the counter bullshit. I really would like for the devs to at least give the option of having the strong charge/hit&run playstyle back but those retards refuse to let greatsword be the way it used to be
>>738929847>his KWAB
>>738930025The main thing is that focus mode can be utilized in the middle of attacks as well to adjust your aim slightly so with GS and hammers charged hits that means some of the aiming is happening mid attack rather than purely before. But monsters are faster in Wilds to account for this. So there is no longer the >run behind monster, charge up, release on 2nd 90 degree turn to face youPlaystyle and GS is way harder because it has to actively counter attacks and Mae judgement calls on when to tackle, wide slash, etc
>you didnt beat it if you used arts>you didnt beat it if you didnt use guild style>you didnt beat it if you used mantles>>>i see the soultard community has infected MH
