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So if Aerith ends up living will die hard ff7 fans chimp out ?
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>>738879419
Buy an ad, spammer
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She's alive though
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She lived in the original game too, retard.
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>>738879520

Huh?
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After teasing it so hard they can't back down now lol
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>>738879596
Oh I see Cloud simply wasn't anime enough in the original
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>SEA/jeets sleep hour
>all FF7 threads die at same time
Can't make this shit up.
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Are there still purists left?
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>>738880068
just keep on with the alteration
>Aerith lives
>so the lifestream refuses to save the world from Meteor because it didn't get its sacrifice
>Aerith plans to kill herself to propitate the lifestream into casting Holy
>Cloud says fuck that and ends up with a brand new final dungeon where he kicks Sephiroth's, Meteor's, and the entire planet's ass to get an ending where nobody needs to be sacrificed
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>>738880390
Surprisingly. I think square expected purists to leave or adopt the new direction too.
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>>738880390

Yeah I see them a lot on the ff7 subreddits
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cloud will die btw
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>>738880737
>>738880734
That's fascinating. How can they still follow the project when it's so different? Or do they expect SE to drop all the new plotlines in p3? Or are they just playing the games to complain
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>>738881016

Many of them say the remake trilogy so far has only deviated from the original plot in minor ways.
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>>738879419
die hard ff7 fans will chimp out regardless of what happens
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>>738881016
Dunno. Hamaguchi still tries to keep them invested by saying "the story won't change too much" and "the emotional beats will be left intact".
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>>738881340

That seems like a blatant lie.
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>>738879419
Wouldn't give a shit, If I wanted to play ff7 exactly as it was I'd just play ff7.
At least there is some new content and deviation
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>>738881192
I can't begin to understand that stance.
Defeating a harbinger of fate is minor? All the whisper trying to keep the story as the OG are minor?
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>>738879419
Actually FF7 lore experts have already deduced that Aerith's death never even mattered to to plot. She actually hardly matters to the story at all. The main character is actually Tifa and the entire story of FF7 is about Cloud and Tifa being a couple in love.

It's important to know how little Aeith's death matters in FF7 before part 3 comes out so that we can be prepared to like it no matter what. If she lives or dies, neither will be bad. It will be good no matter what happens.
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I'm a die hard fan and I stopped giving a shit about the de-makes when they announced that they were going to be split into 3 games.
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>>738881737
Yeah it's autistic sperging to a whole new level. They basically say the story follows all the same beats and the whispers are just minor stuff.
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>>738879419
At this point I don't even care anymore. I'm just awaiting part 3 to see how much they have fucked up the story and how they pretend to come out of the mess they have self-inflicted to their best title, that should have sold like hot cakes and instead is a ridiculous fucking mess.
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>>738880390
What does purist mean? Do they think the remakes are like the original? They’re definitely not. I think they are fun enough though gameplay-wise (not Charley trash though)
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>>738879610
She is DEAD in the original final fantasy 7 and in no moment the story tells you she will return alive again. The story ends with Aerith sacrifice being the one that have prevented Meteor and Holy to fuck up everything. No info is known about what happened to the party. You can only suppose everything went well for them, for RedXII is still alive 500 years after that event.
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>>738881427
Well the first one is true. All of the important plot details are the same while everything around them got butchered.
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>>738882057
People who like the original FF7 are called purists
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>>738882137
I like the original FF7 and think it’s better as a story than the remakes. I started with Remake too.
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>>738881427
As long as they believe it long enough to buy part 3 it's ok to lie to them.
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>>738881427
Why's that? we havent seen aerith death
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How do morons know the "Remake" isn't an actual remake but a sequel
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>>738882950
not know*
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>>738882137
I like the OG, that's why I prefer retrilogy to be a sequel. Saying it's the same as the OG at this point feels like an insult.
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>>738882898

I meant I feel he's lying that part 3 will follow the same plot beats.
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>>738883120
I dont think he's saying otherwise
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>>738879419
Remake is a sequel and its own thing. If you see it like that you can appreciate the new story, the nods at the OG, the new gameplay, etc.
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>>738879419
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>>738883149

"The story won't change much" it already has
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>>738882137
you can like both retard
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>>738883120
He means emotional highlights like northern crater and lifestream sequence will still be present (altered like all the other moments). The rest will be fair game to be changed completely.
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>>738883086

How is it a sequel ?
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>>738879419
If you didn't want Aerith to live and didn't kill Sephiroth for her, you didn't actually beat VII and can't be a true purist.
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>>738881427
If they're stupid enough to believe the story is "unchanged" they deserve to be lied to.
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>>738882898
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What's the point of all the bullshit future memory, whispers, defy fate shit if Cloud still ends miserable?
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It's so weird that this far out from the game's release there are so many vocal critics that have obviously not played the game. I don't know, maybe it is AI eating up seetheposts and regurgitating false info spam.
There is no ambiguity, Aerith is dead/returned to the planet at the end of Rebirth.

We are witnessing Cloud's schizophrenic and unreliable POV. I actually like what they are cooking with regards to cloud, I think we are going to get a big drawn out reveal in the third part. The big twist of the original will be an epic moment where supposed OGheads get to see the unaltered death scene of Aerith.
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>>738889484
Proof, or is it just your headcanon?
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>>738887842
Why is the fire behind the glass if he has just thrown the molotov?
Was the store already on fire and he's just adding more fire?
Is he retarded?
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>>738889868
Better question is will he still like it if he's completely wrong (yes)
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>>738889868
She dies at the end of the game, they mourn her and move in. It is very clear cut
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>>738890057

AI slop shit
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>>738889868
See >>738888176
Also another proof is the 2 Aeriths in the ending. The Aerith that Cloud is imagining wants to stay behind to pray to stop meteor, but Cloud himself is going to cause meteor.
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>>738879419
The OG purists and turn-based browncels will chimp out no matter what Square Enix does.

That said, I don't think we would be able to save her in Remake Part 3, but they might hint that it is possible in a potential sequel.
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>>738890445
Interesting the Aerith at the start is not affected by the wind but the Aerith at the end is.
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>>738890445
In fact, Cloud was meteor all along
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>>738890515
They would hate it no matter what SE does, but thankfully there are people like you and me who will love it no matter what SE does. So at least it balances out.
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>>738890515

I could see that. They certainly are trying to milk the shit out of ffVII
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The Rebirth writing is good, the OG 3rd disc was bad (story-wise) and AC and DoC were horrific.
I hope that they commit to the narrative changes without chickening out too much and then retcon the old sequels.
Despite the autistic flailing of critics, Rebirth scaled back on a lot of the bold changes, it was a very faithful adaptation of the original story with the only weirdness being the Tifa death fake-out where they have rearranged later massive plot-points. The Zack arc was a parallel and inconsequential story at this point

The OG is one of my all time favourite games but the new series can improve the story which definitely had a weaker second half. I don't care about the opinions of bandwagon faggots that keep spamming my feed with video essays on Remake.
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>>738890445
Did you miss different worlds are created when a pivotal decision is made? They made it obvious.
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>>738890882
The end of remake was exciting. I was looking forward to the unknown journey. Then they did exactly the oppositte. I still loved it. I think if part 3 does everything I hope it doesnt I'll end up loving it too.
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How does the 'everything will be the same' camp explain this?
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>>738890932
Those are only in Zack's lifestream worlds. Even in Remake's ending they straight away show the terrier Stamp. Plus there are no alternate Cloud and party, but in Zack's worlds everyone have their alternate versions, even Zack himself.
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>>738891193
It also happened when Cloud blocked the sword
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I'm honestly just really interested in how it will end. I'm not sure what would be funnier/worse, a massively different ending or if they caved and made it end the exact same way because something something FATE something DESTINY
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>>738891193
Just like in the OG!
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>>738891261
No there's no alternate Cloud, party or even a different Stamp.
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>>738891474
The rainbow effect is there, do you need everything spelled out?
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>>738891023
I'm almost certain that the Remake series is going to end on the same point with the whispers and alt lifestream timeline only existing to flesh out Sephiroth's motivations and have a clearer explanation of the meteor resolution, they are loose ends that will tie themselves up.
Either way, I'm sure it will be fine. I'm not so emotionally attached that I need to see a 1:1 remake of the OG. If we are being completely honest, aside from having a cool character design and theme, Sephiroth/Jenova was a weak antagonist.

It'd be funny if they just blatantly changed the ending and called part 3 Reboot. The people who like it will love it and the people who hate it will hate it, they've already made up their minds 15 years ago.
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>>738879419
cait sith goes by cait now?
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mod to kill aeris in the flower church
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>>738879419
Aerisdies .com was my regular hentai site for years and years.
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Is it true many "purist" are just falseflagging Tifags? Why do they want to keep everything the same when Cloud rejects Tifa at the end of the OG, and in AC, and in DC?
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>>738891680
But where are the alternate Cloud, party and Stamp? Who buried Aerith?
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>>738890882
They aren't going to change shit, because they don't have to. SE will just continue to expand the lore and add new content while keeping the plot almost exactly the same. In the end, Sephiroth will be "defeated", we will see Aerith again in some very emotional cutscenes and that will be it for the main game.

We will almost certainly get some DLC that lead directly up to, and possibly even partially into, Advent Children. Then they will move on to full production of Final Fantasy XVII, while fans beg for a sequel to Advent Children where we can save Aerith - and guess what? They are going to make that game in a few years as well. And they will also finally reveal who Cloud's canon love interest is (it is obviously Aerith).

Screencap this. No, my uncle doesn't work for Square Enix, these are just educated guesses.
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>>738892026
Buried Aerith? What are you talking about? And why would you need everyone to show up and look at the camera to say this is another timeline when the same mechanic of split timelines is shown?
Morons like you is the reason subtle storytelling is dying.
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>>738892212
Here. Who buried Aerith here if not Cloud?
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Aerith will be saved, non believers will cry
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>>738891973
Delusional headcanons drive their actions.
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>>738892376
That's Cloud talking with the Aerith he saved from the timeline he created when he blocked the sword.
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>>738891973

That's the running theory with Aerith fans.
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>>738892634
But why is everyone there?
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>>738892125
>save Aerith DLC
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>>738892670
It's what makes sense considering we know he created another timeline. Of course, in the timeline where she died he is delusional about her death.
Also, what's your running theory that you pass as fact?
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>>738892783
Cloud is part of both timelines. He talks with the Aerith he saved in both. He doesn't realize Aerith died in one because he's full schizo.
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I wonder, what does the party see when Cloud is flirting with Aerith at the end? To they see him talk to the air and just... let him?
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>>738892934

I'm saying Tifa fags dislike the idea Aerith surviving. I think you're responding to the wrong post
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>>738893075
Yes you already claimed this, there are two timelines with 2 Aeriths but only 1 Cloud and party. But the question is who buried the dead Aerith by the lake?
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>>738893136

They probably are preparing the straight jacket off screen. Part 3 will be trying to escape the psych ward before cloud gets a lobotomy.
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>>738893323
I think so, meant to respond to the anon who said there were no different timelines.
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>>738893136
If they do notice he's delulu it's pretty shit they say nothing. Tifa just stares at him like he lost his marbles and gets on the ship.
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>>738893136
They already got in the plane.
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>>738893347
the timeline were Aerith died will obviously be the "bad" timeline of the OG, where Cloud places her in the water. Probably.
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>>738893783
So because there's only 1 Cloud and 1 party, so this one Cloud goes from seeing Aerith opening her eyes just after the Sephiroth battle, to burying Aerith, to talking to Aerith again immediately after the burial?
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>>738879419
I don't think I'd care what it does, it's not the same game anymore regardless.
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>>738879419
If Aerith ends up living, one of the Tifags might actually attack Square Enix HQ. That's how deranged these people are.
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>>738895026

Then I hope it happens. I need a good chimpout to watch.
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>>738895026
if she stays dead will part 3 flop just like part 2?
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>>738895196
Part 3 is going to flop no matter what just because that's how trilogies work, and Rebirth had extremely poor sales.

Square Enix can possibly salvage it if they release a day 1 complete edition priced under $90. They way they can get everyone who was maybe on the fence because now they're getting a good deal with all the games, and then Square Enix can go around and count that are 3 separate sales - 1 for each of the games. Square Enix is retarded though so they're not going to do that.
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>>738895363
So who will burn down SE buildung if nobody buys the game?
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>>738895363

Wasn't that because a lot didn't have a ps5 still? I remember it topping the steam charts for a while.
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>>738895482
No one? I think there will only be riots if Aerith lives. If Aerith stays dead, I think Aerithfags will accept that as just how the game goes, and they'll be glad they got to spend more time with ghost Aerith from Advent Children.

>>738895485
XVI sold more copies than Rebirth did while having half the budget and not being carried by the the Final Fantasy VII IP.
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>>738895196
>>738895363
>if I just spam that Rebirth flopped in ever VIIR thread, then it will magically come true
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>>738895650
Remake is a sequel to OG but not to AC.
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>>738896503
Rebirth is like the only game that Square Enix has never released sales numbers for, anon. At some point you need to stop living in your delusion and face reality.
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>>738896569

Then how do you know that FF 16 sold more than 7 if they've never released sales numbers??
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>>738895650
Will Zack also be revived together with Aerith?
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>>738896881
All third party sites indicate that XVI sold more than Rebirth (while having half the budget), except Steam, where Rebirth sold a tiny bit more. There's also the fact that if Square Enix were proud of Rebirth's sales they would have said something about it.
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>>738897134

Source ?
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>>738897114
I don't think either of them are going to be revived.
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>Look at crossdressing Link and Cloud porn (again)
>Think this might be the time to admit it
>"Wait a minute. Twinks don't look like that."
>mfw I go back to not being gay

It's that shrimple. If you think twinks IRL are attractive, you are gay.
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>>738897226

You clearly have some sexual issues to work through. Seek therapy.
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>>738898103
>Me working through the issues when I see my wife Cloud with HRT titties
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>>738897134
>XVI sold more than Rebirth
The fact that I am seeing Rebirth threads on a daily basis still indicates that it has significance and is a grower.
Very few modern games have this kind of interest and retention.
Rebirth will continue to get sales, getting a big boom of sales along once the 3rd installment comes out. It will also continue to get sold in trilogy bundles. Remake, the first installment has sold like hotcakes and had a similar cycle with porting sales booms and anticipation of sequel sales.
16 had a legacy that lasted about a year, it's done. The remake trilogy will print money for a decade. It also revives their biggest merch machine which is the FF7 franchise.

Trust the plan.
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>>738898210

Plus it's already selling well on the switch 2 and it's not even out for another month.
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>>738898210
>The fact that I am seeing Rebirth threads on a daily basis still indicates that it has significance and is a grower.
Anon, the same people have been having the same conversations for 30 years. The same few anons make multiple VII threads every single day. We only have one XVI schizo and he's actually a Remake schizo who makes XVI threads just to samefag shitpost in them. XVI just doesn't have a Barry who samefags XVI threads and makes multiple threads per day.
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>>738898185

Aerith was teaching Cloud how to dress like a woman. Guess she probably connected him to a support group to start the process.
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