PVP PLAYERS ARE FURIOUS>n Season 2, we will be experimenting with two modes, one at the beginning of the season and one towards the middle/latter half of the season. The experimental mode at the beginning of the season will focus more on PVE, but with a light touch of PVP. The second experimental mode will be a PVE-only mode that’s focused on crews being tasked with completing objectives together and making some progress across matches. pvp sweats (the 6k players that play this game) often say PVE will be the downfall of Marathon, and they'll quit the game if they add a PVE only mode
Just add a fucking single player story focused roguelike mode it's not hard
>players dropping>LETS ADD PVEThe final bandaid. Shutdown soon
>>738880632Cringe
Will it be playable offline?Marathon's art design seems amazing but i'm not buying (or even playing a f2p) a game that's got an always-online requirement where it becomes unplayable once the official servers go downIf the PVE mode is playable offline or they add a LAN mode, i'll buy it
we did it pvebros we saved marathon
>>73888119111k active players is much more cringe
In other words, the experimental Weenie Hut Jr playlists are far more popular than the actual game. PVE Marathon wouldn't last a month, who the fuck would want to fight these roblox men when there are already dozens of co-op shooters to choose from?
now all we need is single player marathon mod and the cycle is complete
>>738881652roblox is very popular
>>738881297>Will it be playable offline?Are you joking? This is bungle we're talking about. They've been repeatedly smacking their head full speed against the live service scam wall for twelve years- have entirely devoted themselves to it at the expense of everything else. If you said 'offline mode' in their campus, they'd probably look at you as though you said something foreign- or a slur.
>>738880274shitterbros we're eating good
>>738880274probably a good idea
>trying to save dying game beginssee ya next month when they announce layoffs
>>738880274Not touching it without full offline support.
>>738880274I kind of think a PVE would help, but I'm not sure Marathon has the basic general appeal to bring in the PVE players.
>>738880632The game should have had a full blown story campaign from the start. That is a core thing that Bungie is known for, it makes no sense that they would skip and ignore that. Especially since it makes even less sense to have the game be a Marathon sequel/reboot without it.
desu ignoring the fact that all the pve enemies are just reskinned destiny enemies. The AI is quite good and they are very aggressive, Some of the best moments in the beta for me were with the robots. Marathon was always a pve game anyway
>marathon failing>follows in the exact footsteps of tarkovretards
Fyi tarkov has pve and it's more than 2x as popular as PvP.Turns out no one cares about fagstraction "skill" and no one likes you no life macro rats
i'd have tried marathon without much hesitation if even 1 of my friends was interested but, somehow, that group of FotM enjoying normalfags completely skipped it. didn't even try the demo/beta
>>738883105Pve is popular in tarkov because niggita refuses to deal with cheaters since they are his biggest source of income
>>738880274The game should have been cooperative PVE from the start. In fact that's what it felt like it originally was before someone, probably some stupid executive, thought it should be an extraction shooter instead. PVP should have been an optional mode
>>738883143it's the artstyle. It's both the best thing about it and the reason it's dying horrifically, it's anti-mainstream.
>>738883329so just like marathon then
Wait… I thought this was an extremely difficult hardcore extraction shooter for hardcore players?What happened?
>>738883689Turns out there is about only 8k people that exist in the whole gaming world
>>738883689Turns out school shooters aren't a profitable enough audience to support a game
>>738883689It's not difficult or hardcore. Only retards who have never played Tarkov would think so. It's piss easy and ultra casual. There are absolutely zero stakes.
>>738880274Why do PvP sweats always get so upset when something like this happens? Do they really just enjoy seal clubbing that much? Don't you want people that actually fight back and want to be there?
Can't wait for the dark souls RED MAN BAD style posts about the sweats not being able to prey on incoming PVE babies and how they're killing the game or whatever.
>>738884331Its often two reasons. One, they're afraid if PVE gets catered to then PVP wont be in future updates. Two, they like being king of their little hill. If the game gets more popular there's a higher chance someone better than them will come along and knock them off their pedestal
>>738883143Sounds like your friends have better taste than you
>>738883689players are running out and they're scraping the remnants with modes that aren't going to require matchmaking
>>738881297>>738882682Why do uncs care so much about this? It's a $30 game. If you get a lot of enjoyment out of it now, who cares if it's inaccessible in a decade? You'll probably have dementia then anyway.
>>738883397From what I understood and what some sources claim the origonal idea for the game was supposed to be closer to The Division where you play a campaign that was largley PvE but once you completed the Obj or killed the boss players had the option to either all leave together or betray each other and still each others loot.
>>738880274>pve+minor pvp at the start of the seasonTsk...>pve-only towards middle/latter halfWell, alright...I've been playing GZW and PVE there is just fun, though AI is pretty stupid. They actually released a patch today that's meant to make them harder, but I didn't really notice the difference.But I have to thank Marathon for introducing me to it, game's fun for me. Last innajungle FPS I played was probably Crysis and Far Cry 3(?), it's somewhat refreshing, feels like there's not that many of those nowadays.
>>738884331beacically that, they enjoy pwning noobs . If you move the noobs to pve then they have to fight sweats and they hate losing
>>738885339Go back to Roblox, you little fucking retard. No wonder you zoomers are broke as hell, you're open to getting fucked by any and everyone.I buy games, I don't rent them until publishers decide it's beneficial for them to close them down.Now do the floss and fuck off.
>>738880274Weren't the non-player enemies the worst part of that game?
>>738880274>Re-designing their entire gameThey failed from the get-go, fucking idiots.
>>738885578>I buy gamesDo you use steam? Because you're not buying games there.
>>738885676I mean, didn't this exact thing also happen with Destiny 1?
>>738885468>beacicallywhy did I type that like that
>>738885753Destiny 2 also dropped the ball hard for the first year, enough that activision giving over developers is what gave us the best destiny 2 content
>>738885687You don't understand what 'always online' design is, you zoomer windbag?It takes 5 seconds to copy-paste a crack over backed-up files to completely remove any DRM and enable permanent, full offline support without the need for internet access, as all the files are accessible on the user side.Paying for always online games is the ultimate gaming faggotry. But for people like you, raised thinking it's OK to be left holding the bag again and again, it's prolly not controversial at all.
>>738880274Neat>onlineGay
>>738885578jfc bro are you literally 50 or some shit what a rotten negative attitude literally go touch grass and chill dude wtf
They really should just cut their losses and abandon this shit.
>>738886027You need to be 13 to browse this website.
>>738885753>>738885921I mean, I guess there is your hope on turning shit around. Like, as someone that neither has intense hate or nostalgiac love for Bungie, I can't help but be a little surprised with the insane love Destiny has and how so many people are saying "Destiny 1 was their last good game" or "They should've abadonned Marathon to keep working on Destiny 2/ make Destiny 3".Because, I was here when Destiny launched and I DISTINCTLY remember that being a shitshow too. Yet now it's like it's been totally memoryholed. Like, nobody remember that bitch ass Peter Dinkledge Guilty Spark rip-off? If they managed to rewrite history once, who knows? Maybe they'll do it again.
>>738883000ngl if there was single player marathon mod that had decent bot AI i would play it.
>>738880274Why can't That other extraction game do that? The one with the robutts? I love the game, but it feels so fucking ass to max out a loadout to hunt the big robutts, only for some asshole with a cheap kit to down you.I don't know how it is in marathon, maybe it's better balanced, but in that other game it's a real fucking problem that for PvE you need to bring highly specialized expensive gear, but to do PvP you can go in with a free kit and kill people.Like, I don't mind losing to someone who has put in a similar amount of effort and therefore risk as me. But as it is right now, kitted out PvE players are essentially just fucking loot pinatas for PvP players.
>>738886230It was a shit show but it still made them money
>>738880632>Single player story focusedYea I can agre->RoguelikeKILL YOURSELF YOU BROWN RETARDED DOUBLE NIGGGGGEREERRRRRRR
Yeah Sony definitely busted the door open at Bungie and threatened top management with ritual execution.The timing of this after the last Sony sales report is just too sweet
>>738886414>for PvE you need to bring highly specialized expensive gearI believe that's how it is in Marathon as well, though I haven't played that much.First of all, fighting bots at all is like a giant dinner bell. People can see whether the boss is on the map, there's an announcement when you start fighting it and people can hear shooting from rather decent distance.High-value events have alarms and shit.Basically you have to prepare for PvP if you want to do PvE. You pretty much can't use freekit, you most likely won't have enough ammo as well.If anyone can correct what I said wrong, please go ahead. I mostly focused on doing quests until getting tired of it.
>>738880274I would try it if it was PVE only.
>>738882840>That is a core thing that Bungie is known forWas, if you're fucking old. Sony bought them for their live service shit, and Destiny's single player mission shit was universally cobbled together garbage.
>>738887051If Marathon does introduce a PvE mode and it reviews well I might buy it. I don't hate extraction shooters, I just hate mixed PvPvE, for pretty much the reason I and you stated. Pure PvP match? Great, Pure PvE match? Also great. Need to kill a big robot for a quest? Better hope you have the gear! Oh! Everyone on the map is now coming for your ass? Enjoy!
>>738885927>you zoomer windbag?>says the unce typiing emotional full ass paragraphs with redddit line breaks
>>738880274I'm sure the 2 guys still playing it will be riveted
>>738880274it's kind of dumb to experiment in a lowkey manner, IE no one will hear about this except their ENTIRE 10k hardcore playerbase, who don't want it. it's not exactly gonna grab the other 1m who brought it and left already. but, i think this is all probably irrelevant anyway, since i imagine it's likely inevitable where they go next. they either try to salvage some kind of D3 / D2.5 out of it with PvE and and least gain back some more players (IE potential MTX/DLC purchasers), or they EOS and get vore'd by Sony in 8 months.
>>738885339I still own and can play all the games I bought in the 90s on the n64, because I fucking bought it and it's mineIf I want to play a game in 30 years I should damn well be able to
Hopefully it's implemented well
>>738886251i mean honestly me too there is a reason why pve tarkov is extremely popular
>>738887739It is fucking bizarre how they're trying to pretend they're some plucky indie dev on early access with all these experiments and reactionary changes.
>>738886230>Like, as someone that neither has intense hate or nostalgiac love for Bungie, I can't help but be a little surprised with the insane love Destiny has and how so many people are saying "Destiny 1 was their last good game" or "They should've abadonned Marathon to keep working on Destiny 2/ make Destiny 3".>Because, I was here when Destiny launched and I DISTINCTLY remember that being a shitshow too. Yet now it's like it's been totally memoryholed.your problem is you dont know how bad d2 gotd1 is a 5dollar footlong subway sub. might not be the best sandwich but it was a footlong and 5 dollars.meanwhile d2 is 20 bucks for a doordashed 6inch sub that the doordasher showed up an hour late dropped on the floor and stepped on.you dont even get the complete thing you overpaid for.
>Bungie expects Season 5 (aka 2 years later) to represent to full vision they have for MarathonLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO????????
>>738888740God theyre doing the fucking destiny playbookExcept didnt even sell as many copies as destiny
>>738888740>>738888958Bungies biggest problem since Halo fucking 1 is that their management is ass who can't plan correctly and they are constantly in grind and rebuild mode because they keep making terrible decisions
Imagine how pathetic the life of someone must be, reduced to simply hoping a video game flops out of childish spite. This individual logs into SteamDB every day to check how many people are playing.>They had to add a less hardcore mode because the game was too hardcore.I corrected it for you, OP.
Destiny 3 here we are
>>738889272its kinda funny seeing this car crash in slow mo.
Every fucking extraction shooter has a PvE modeWhy did they only figure this out now? Agter the game fucking flopped?
>>738880632I am vomit you retard
>>738889162They have strange desire of always playing underdog
>>738880274Add 3rd person and I'll play.
>>738880274>The experimental mode at the beginning of the season will focus more on PVEThats a great idea they could also have some NPCs, tighter/more intentional level desing and a progression path that does not involve being on a hamster wheel every day but how do call this genius type of game? singular-like? lone-souls? meh im sure the great devs at Bungie TM can figure something out
>>738888535>meanwhile d2 is 20 bucks for a doordashed 6inch sub that the doordasher showed up an hour late dropped on the floor and stepped on.>you dont even get the complete thing you overpaid for.Don't forget the part where they come back and actively take the toppings off your sandwich but justify it as making room for the exciting new toppings they're going to offer to sell you later.
>>738880274just according to keikaku
>>738890739>major discount>huge bumpkek
>>738890739>nassive spike
>>738888958it also killed destiny 2 in the process bungie will genuinely never recover from this
>>738880274Neat. I'll try it when it goes f2p.
>>738880274nah i'm ok with it
>>738889447Nice to meet you, Vomit.
Quite the narrative shift OP. See you in 5 years when Marathon is still online and playable.
Is bungie really this desperate? Might as well add a gacha with big titty marathon waifus.
More emergency changes to Marathon means Destiny continues to be ignored
Imagine divesting resources into this flop when you could of just made d3 and now you can't do either
>>738885676This doesn't feel as massive as the Civ7 stuff where they're changing the core background of the game, but it's damn close to it.I'm sure the game director was seething about it too because he sounded like he wanted to keep it hardcore 3v3 PVP forever and fuck you if you didn't like it.
>>738891679this version of star fox cracks me up. i'm so glad they went with it
>>738892953I can only get this Jeb! vibe from this new design. It's all I think of when I see these pics.
>>738880274Should've been there from the start, might be too late to attract players.
>>738880274>experimentalSo you want people to buy your $60 game which is PvP focused for a 'maybe' we'll keep PvE in the future? Bungie are so stupid its honestly amazing.
>>738881652Well Helldivers 2 is killing it and continues to pull in 200k players for every major update so lots of people
>>738893224It's only $40, but you're still right.>buy our $40 game for the vague promise of a PVE mode that might arrive in June, but who knows if we'll keep itIt's clearly a panic move to try to save the game before it collapses completely.
>>738892451Imagine making the game PVP only because you didn't want to make another Destiny and now you are forced to make another shiittier Destiny anyway
WE WON BIGLY SISTERS
PvPniggers are so whiney lol. They don't actually want to have fair fights, they just want to bully weaker geared/skilled players, i.e. the ones that would play PvE mode.This shouldn't affect them but the bitching alone tells the whole tale.
Bungie you are CURSED
>>738893905It doesn't seem like it will be possible to play the whole game PVE, the patch notes make it sound like it will be only some kind of side quest thing.To do normal level ups for the story or contracts or whateverthefuck, that's still going to require you to spread your cheeks for sweats in PVPVE lobbies.
>bungie will die in your lifetimefeels good man
A pure pve mode is bad just put a teamup mechanic in solos and focus on solo/duo content
>why do people want the devs that stole money from people to failwow i really wonder, it's truly a mystery
>>738880274hhahahahaha fucking told them. The majority of gamers don't want sweaty pvp modes in this kind of game.
>>738881297>Marathon's art design seems amazing
>>738880274see this is something that they should do for player retention BUT>splitting the queues in a dying gameit's all or nothing here.
Considering I got memed into buying arc raiders by my normal fag buddies the most boring game of all time I will never play this ugly trash
>>738880274Wow, who could have seen this one coming? They made a game for no one and had to pivot immediately. Still won't work because first impressions most important.
>>738892040There are legitimately no cosmetics or customization or MTX to speak of. Nothing about Marathon makes sense unless you consider that Bungie leads wanted it to fail ASAP.
