Hello?
i enjoyed it but i'm a fairly normal person with things to hang his hat on besides being a shut in loser dipshit who can only cling to being "based vidya enthusiast"
>>738902264>can't but state an opinion without attacking another>fairly normallol
>>738902182Darkness My Old Friend
>>738902264Alright?
>>738902182>1 year passed >no DLC news>game had less current players on its release then Eternal at that same timelol, they fucking managed somehow to kill doom again
>>738902182>Saros was a better Doom Eternal sequel than Dark Agesid bros...
>>738902182>everyone loves the unskippable cutscene of the doomguy literally punching the plot away>decide that somehow this means players want to see even more cutscenes of the doomguy not paying attention to the plot>everyone loves how the gameplay is straightforward shooting demons in the face with a gun>decide to overcomplicate the hell out of it instead, eventually adding a god damn parry mechanicDo the developers simply hate everyone who just want to shoot demons in the face, or are they just idiots?
>>738902182The update they put out shortly after launch greatly improved the gameplay pacing.I gotta say the overall prequel nature of it kinda sucked though.
>>738902610At least the plot in DA is very skippable. It's a very fun game in combat but it puts too much emphasis on hunting collectibles
>>738902182Am I crazy for finding that this was an actually good nu-doom game, 2016 felt like Halo, and Eternal felt like Quake.The gayass marketing made you believe you'd be a walking parrying molasses, but if you turn on auto-sprint (as you would in OG Doom), you'd run fast as the original Doom.
>>738902324i did clearly post my opinion and stated that detractors are nearly always retards who can't stop jerking off the micro joysticks to their 1337 gaymin skills, dumbass
STAND AND FIGHT
>>738902610More or less. I can't believe the same devs made 2016 did the next two games. 2016 was a perfect modernization of classic DOOM. Yeah it didn't have the labyrinthine maps and instead focused much more on combat arenas, but that sort of just fits with the times. The spirit of the game was perfect. Point your guns at the demons and unload on them until they die, and find your way around the 3D maps in the meantime to get your keys.Eternal was cool but had some obnoxious gameplay gimmicks, and Dark Ages went way too "this is our epin fantasy now". All three are good games but modern id has been more and more fucking around with the formula.
>>738902182can't wait for the DLC to give more misery porn involving endless torture, you can't do anything to fix this btw, you're damned to hell no matter what in Doom's story, no salvation at all. Also God is actually Satan lmao. Way to make me not care Hugo.
>>738902264This is projection
>think that the Eternal DLC is gonna have mech combat because of the mech in the Fortress of Doom>they saved it for Dark Ages>it's the worst part of the gameI remember way back when the first hints about the next Doom were coming out and Hugo was saying, "you're going to hit like a truck" instead of being fast and nimble, I though, "oh shit are they gonna do an entire Mech Warrior Doom game?" Thank God they didn't cause their mech segments were shit.
>>738902610>everyone loves the unskippable cutscene of the doomguy literally punching the plot awayI always thought that was a retarded praise, 2016 had a whole mission that locked you into Samuel Hayden's long exposition dump half-way through the game.
>>738902920>Also God is actually Satan lmao.Why is this cringe internet gnosticism everywhere these days?
>no memorable tracks in this game unlike in Eternal or 2016lol, lmao even
Every summer I do a main series DOOM run and this is my enjoyment rankings over the years:1. 64, doesn't have the most enemy variety but there's something about the graphics, music, weapons, designs, that just feel like a perfect classic DOOM.2. DOOM 2016 I look forward to replaying for the basic point and shoot combat and breaking the game with the infinite ammo chaingun.3. DOOM II because it's just kinda a better version of DOOM.4. I think Dark Ages is my new number 4 because while I actually fucking HATED the game on my first playthrough, I did a second one and after they did a gameplay options update so I could turn off the slowdown on the parry and it's so much nicer not to be in parry slowmo all the fucking time.5. DOOM OG I have just massive nostalgia for and it starts the run, so it always feels the comfiest to sit down and start up.6. Eternal. It's great, but it's the most hectic and least fun to replay for me. It also comes at the end of the entire run after a couple weeks of playing the games on and off, so by that time I might be a bit tired on it and the DLC especially can feel like a drag. Also the final boss of TAG2 is so fucking bad that I genuinely just stop the run at the intro cutscene to the boss and consider it ended there.
2016 was fun because you could use whatever weapon you wantedeternal sucked because of the bing bing wahoo and use the gun we tell you todark ages was a bit better with free weapon use again but got too many goddamn cutscenes
>>738903090fuck if I know, I think they just wanted to have "le ebin plot twist!" which considering they already ruined VEGA and Hayden by then I guess take everything else from me too.
>>738902182I wish I was a little bit taller, I wish I was a baller!
>>738902920Yeah they sort of fucked around with DOOM's lore.It seems like literally all souls from Earth go to hell. It's not just souls of the damned, it seems like everyone from Argent D'Nur and Earthrealm just go to hell, there is no heaven. Oh and also Hell is just another alien dimension that used to be kinda nice before it was corrupted and filled with extradimensional monster beings.Oh and there's apparently multiple versions of Earth but only one version of Hell, which to me is the worst retcon of the series because they wanted to have a soft reboot instead.
>>738902810You are full of seething and malding. Incel-like, if you will.
>>738902881COPE AND SEETHE
>>738903384>Halo fucked their lore by retconning humans not to be Forerunner after 343 directly said "You ARE Forerunner!" and inserting ancient aliens>DOOM fucked their lore with multiverse shit and inserting ancient aliensWhy is this so tempting for every scifi series? Even Starcraft did it with the Xel'Naga and AVP did it with the Engineers. It's particularly egregious in Halo, but DOOM especially didn't need a "heaven dimension" to counterpart Hell at all.
>we want MCU tier story>that's what fans of previous games wanted
>>738902182Its probably fun but im not gonna bother downloading that big of a game just to play it. When will hard drives be affordable again?
>>738903384>Oh and also Hell is just another alien dimension that used to be kinda nice before it was corrupted and filled with extradimensional monster beings.FUCK man I forgot about that one, that really pissed me off when they did that shit in eternal. They had backpedaled so far from the 2005 movie going "uhh actually they're aliens" they didn't realize they had actually just pedaled back around to the same shit. completely removed any mystery to hell.Completely ruins any meaning behind the Christian imagery in Doom 1, 2 and 3 but at this point I can't help but accept the Nu-games as anything but a new canon. Far as I'm concerned Doomguy is still stuck in hell after 64 or maybe fragging in Quake 3.Shame what Eternal and the DLC's did to the "story", by feeling the need to "connect" everything. We didn't know how good we had it with 2016's story.
>pirate dark ages>play for few nights>forget it even existedIt's sort of okay at first but it's just so tepid and repetitive. Stale, boring. Good riddance.
>>738903885Basically in Doomverse, Christianity is a human understanding of their gay multiverse where God is the Father and angels are the Maykrs and Hell is the fire and brimstone other dimension of monsters and semi-scifi magic shit taking lifeforce energy from the dead of other dimensions and converting it to power or whatever. I'm sure the basedllenials at modern id think this is all really cool and original to come up with retcon explanations for Doom aliens and shit.The original series was much cooler where it merged scifi with theology instead of trying to warp it all to be scifi. Basically manking wound up using physics and science to punch into a non-scientific realm of hell and that hubris of mankind unleashed wrath upon them. It also made Doomguy's resolve to stay in hell Eternally to keep fighting demons forever to keep them from returning to Earth more impactful as a sacrifice. Having things like upside down crosses, pentagrams, etc through the games as direct indications of anti-Christian satanic imagery made it feel more real funny enough.
>>738904204>basedllenials at modern id think this is all really cool and original to come up with retcon explanations for Doom aliens and shit.GenX
>>738904509GenX made the original Doom anon.
>>738902610>Doom 2016 is fairly simple, so every future doom game should be exactly as simple Is an irritating take. Gameplay-wise, Eternal is a perfect sequel in almost every way aside from tutorialization. They expanded on 2016's unique qualities and emphasized them. It's rare to get such a bold shooter from the AAA.2016's later portions start getting dry once you get too comfortable. Id has talked about how Eternal came into shape because 2016-2 was so boring that nobody wanted to test it. Dark Ages being too simple and repetitive is a repeated point of complaint.I think variety and pressure are just part of the reliable formula for a combat-centric arena shooter like that. If you can't improvise on the fly like DMC or something, it gets repetitive and stale. If you aren't pressured, it gets stale. Eternal for all the complaints manages both aspects the best.
>>738902182Best AAA fps since Eternal. Actually, the past three Doom games have been the best AAA games of the past decade.
>>738905762I was going to say you're wrong but that's such a low bar I actually don't know if I can argue it. Tekken 7 was good and was within the last decade. Dragon Ball FighterZ maybe. Fighting games are niche though and while they're technically AAA by studio, they're sort of in their own ballpark.For more traditional AAA releases, yeah. There have been better indie/AA or lesser titles I would say like Expedition 33, but not AAA mainline titles. BOTW ten years ago maybe.
>>738902182stop making games
>Triggers click the gamecube by default if you use a PS5 controllerThis one single feature completely destroyed my faith in Hugo Martin and nu-id.
>>738905762Absolute dogshit opinion. Dark Ages is trash for retards and you shouldn't be allowed human rights if you like it.
>Simon says gameplay on rails for dragon sections >Two buttons mash for mech section what were they thinking?
>>738906890>normal people keep complaining to us that we never let you pilot the mech>normal people also keep complaining about eternal's gameplay to us>let's put in more shallow spectacle like a 7th gen FPS people seem to want that
Huh, thought it would be Eternal on top
>>738907045it was the ten year anniversary of 2016 two days ago
eternal gameplay>improvising a freeform jazz combo with every single weapon in the game until every enemy in the room is dead >dark ages gameplayshootparrypunchshootmaybe throwwhy did they do this
Where’s my DLC Hugo?
>>738907674It was a trivmphant retvrn to 2016 gameplay with rightclick the green on top
>>738907674People complained too much about Eternal (mostly due to skill issue), so they "correct" it due to "popular demands" and created dark age.
>>738907768>trivmphant retvrn to 2016 gameplaycrazy that people genuinely say this. maybe my copy of 2016 was broken but i remember doing basically the same shit as eternal but with less mechanics and not standing in place doing the same call and response routine until one of us is dead
TAG Part 1 > Eternal > DOOM > TAG Part 2 > The Dark Ages
>>738907878>standing in place doing the same call and response routine until one of us is deadEternal invented this
>>738902182
>>738902182You got the wrong number mate.
sex with Khan
>>738908695She really wanted his bwc
hard to believe there's still no news on the dlc. i still have the dork ages installed for the dlc but i might as well just uninstall it at this point.
>>738908523it's differentin eternal it's one rare miniboss enemy and there are tricky ways to deal with them without engaging with the minigamein dark ages it is basically every vaguely large enemy >>738909158reveal in less than a month i would guess there's been a lot of dripfeed information>metroidvania structure?>quickswapping "is back" but is different somehow>staff weapon that has mobility options >are trying not to do hard for the sake of hard
>>738903743Both series fell into the hands of retards that don't play the games and don't care about any aspect of the game other than marketability. It's just a means to get people forever hooked to a series that is declining in value and worth in every other way.
>>738909338even if you don't like dark ages or even eternal it's just plain retarded to claim that id isn't invested in the series at all
>>738909235You can shoot demons without doing minigames in Dark Ages too
>>738909379Doom doesn't have it as bad as Halo (where the devs straight up admitted to hating the franchise), but the fact that they think Doom needs 10,000 pages of lore tells me they don't understand what made Doom great. That and mixing Quake with Doom in Dark Ages with the Lovecraftian bullshit in the game.
>>738909670you won't progress pass dragon sections this way
>>738909670it's doing one BFG trick or something every once in awhile (or doing one two-cycle call and response) every few late-game fights vs playing almost every fight in the game deliberately incorrectly/inefficiently. it's a miniboss vs a fundamental game mechanic in other words
>>738909670>forgets about playing the shield parry mini-game
>>738910482what about Eternal's dash minigame? and blood punch, flame belch, chainsaw etc. nuDoom is just playing a bunch of wariowares at the same time, why single out the parry?
>>738910630I'm not the one that said Dark Ages didn't have one.
where the fuck is the dlc? not because I"m excited to play it, but because I was a fool who bought the deluxe edition and I want to play it since I already paid for it, so that way I can be done with the dark ages and never think about it again
>>738907045That's because 2016 is currently on sale, retard.
>>738903235How do you rank Doom 3?
>>738902182nu-Doom 3
>>738902447Huh? The Devs said the dlc is coming and they said it's bigger than the entire base game.
>>738902182Best of NeoDoom
>>738902264>>738902810who hurt this loser dipshit to get him so mad and defensive?
>>738913585they also said TDA would be awesome game with interesting story and great mech and dragon battles they lied
I really like the new doom games i know some people shit on them but they are pretty good i just wish they pushed it a little crazier with the graphics like doom 3 did when it released
>>738913801Honestly despite this entry being sort of lackluster I want to see them keep making games. Pretty much the only AAA fps series worth giving a shit about nowadays, and eternal being an actual challenging indepth shooter was quite a pleasant surprise. It's such a polarizing game but personally it won me over hard and I can't really go back to '16. At least they had an actual fucking vision and stuck to their guns most of the time and even doubled down on things people complained about, a lot of limp wristed devs just do focus playtesting by casual gamers until their products play like samey shit. They went in a different direction for dark ages probably because of those complaints but at least they spun it into a different playstyle and tried to make it work that way.
>>738909721>>738903743>doom threads have halofags mixing things up again
Coomrim: the skyrim ages
>>738903885Bethslop has jumped the shark, it's over It's all going to be marvel like shit from now on
>>738902182DELETE THIS
>>738902610Were cutscenes unskippable? Im playing it now through gaypass and you can skip everything apart from animations where you get new weapons. Dont tell me you couldnt skip these gay ass marvel esque cutscenes at release lmao. I really like gameplay actually but faggot who though its a good idea to make story focused Doom game is an imbecile.
>>738914970You have those modern game segments where you jerk off while a NPC is yapping
>>738908523>switch to remote rockets or wait for the window to do the 1-2 combowhat a shit enemy
>>738902264let people dislike things
>>738915078Thats DOOM 2016 and yeah I disliked these too but im talking about Dark Ages. I skip every single cutscene instantly because first cutscenes gave me a vibe of cutscenes being written by a reddito who collects marvel funko pops. Very specific I know but thats what makes them so corny.
>>738915686After my first cutscene skip I realized I could just skip the entire game and save even more time
Good game but that's it. Honestly though with the change of aesthetic I expected ID to be more daring with its gameplay design but instead we got another generic but solid shooter.
>>738915686You can skip cutscenes in DA. If there's anything breaking up the pacing it's having to constantly check the map for secrets so you don't miss out on upgrades
Eternal > TDA > 20162016 walked so Eternal could run.The Dark Ages is still better than all other AAA FPS offerings and its ok to experiment with new mechanics. Is it better than Eternal? No, but it doesn't have to be.
>>738902264Nice to know an id developer hangs out on /v/. Too bad to see you are so shitter shattered by people not liking your game.
>>738915949Blast xisters we're finally running
>>738910630Chainsaw is the only thing where there's absolutely zero alternative but to regularly engage with it in combat and even there you can have some nuance in whether you you want to save up and instakill a heavy.Do you know what's funny? Most of the functions you described in Eternal are condensed into parry.Want to stagger a superheavy enemy? Parry him. Want to avoid damage from a close hit? Block/parry. Want to do a combo? Parry. Want to get your ammo back? Parry so they stagger and you can punch. Everything pushes you towards doing the same sequence over and over.Eternal's resource management minigame allows some variance in how you engage with it based on how you're playing at the moment. Dark Ages is about using the shield to do the same few combos over and over that achieve basically the same thing.
>>738902182salut, sunt eu, un haiduc
