Finally we get a controller that's actually comfortable to use and isn't forcing you to use steaminput to use a fucking controller.
>>738905752Does it have gyro? No? Then you can shove it up your ass.
>>738905752every single xbox "elite" controller i've bought has lasted less than a year. i've actually went through 3 and even began doing repairs on them so i didn't have to buy more. i'm so glad valve released the steam controller so i could stop consuming this garbage just to have a "nice" controller
do morons really buy these pieces of plastic for $200+ like what the fuck does this have over my ps3 controller besides worthless buttons i'll never use. a removable battery? a pair button?
>>738905752>no gyro>no TMR sticks>despite costing like 150 bucksFuck microshaft
No gyro, likely no tmr, no extra shoulder buttons, scroll wheels in literally wtf who is going to reach for it there spot, ugly looking, no touch pad or any extra unique functions>$200+tip please understand market conditionsLmao feels good to be a steamy right now ngl
Jesus Christ that Dpad how horrifying
>>738905752no trackpads no buy
>>738906094Forgot 125 polling rate as well
>>738905752>Finally we get a controller that's actually comfortable to use>left stick in the wrong place
>>738905913learn 2 aim fag
>>738906204Chang with the small hands can't handle a man's controller.
>>738905752Why? Xbox is even deader than playstation.
>>738905752>cloud modeSo it's like a Stadia controller where it connects directly to the internet for lower latency when cloud streaming?How many people could possibly be in the category of both "willing to spend 200 bucks on a fucking controller" and "unwilling to have an Xbox in their home"?
>>738906220>learn to aim by letting the game aim for you
>>738906249it works flawlessly on PC. You forget that your PC is also made by microsoft?
>>738906258mice don't have auto aim retard
They ripped off the Alpakka 2?
My gamesir controller works just fine, sir.
>>738905752>no accessory portDROPPED
>>738905752No point in getting this when chinese off brands are doing a better job for cheaper. The Vader 4 Pro is already better than this piece of trash.
That's just a worse Vader 5 pro
>>738906367>no removable battery
>>738906384Vader 4 pro is better than 5
>>738906384>>738906367Trusting chink products.
>>738906292This a thread about a controller you DOUBLE RETARD
>>738906384Vader 5 and apex has some of the worst QC imaginable
>>738906459Idiot
Looks fucking awful. A bulky battery housing for replaceable shitty batteries nobody is going to buy instead of a return to AA, pleasing absolutely nobody. Same dogshit back button system, same dogshit grip material, I'm so glad I bought a steam controller when my 1st gen elite finally failed for good.
>>738906436Just don't install their software, use Steam Input or ReWASD
>>738906436Idiot.
>>738906317I'm eager to see that wireless Tegenaria coming out later, they could dethrone 8bitdo Pro 2 for affordable symmetrical controllers if they had a mind.
>>738906458ya and if you don't like it then you can leave
>>738906232ok fatso
>>738905752does it have tmr sticks
>>738906458anyone who uses a controller for an fps game that's playable on m&k is objectively a retard by default. these shitty chinesium controllers exist solely to compete with a $10 keyboard and mouse combo.
>>738906278>PC*Windows
Doesn't the gamesar xbox controller already mog this?
>>738905752Where's the touch pads?
>>738905752Can I use it on my PlayStation or Switch?
>>738906548>anyone who uses a controller for an fps game that's playable on m&k is objectively a retard by default.I agree but you're missing the point, TRIPLE RETARD.
I really like the elite controllers, they can take a beating. Before I got my anger under control I would slam controllers down a lot and every other one would break near instantly or after the second hit. The elites just kept on taking it and would really take some serious force to break.
do people actually give a shit where the left stick is placed or is it just histrionic retards
>>738906548Nah mk&b isn't fun and isn't ergonomically correct for your hands. So enjoy carpal turnnel you bitch ass nerd.
>>738905752If it's got no gyro it's worthlessFuck Microsoft for holding back the entire fucking art form, everybody else has gyro
>>738906647it's just snoy fags as usual
>>738906548>anyone who uses a controller for an fps game that's playable on m&k is objectively a retardWhy? Can you explain why that is?
>>738906652didnt melee tards invent a 200 dollar keyboard for their game because everyone was getting carpal tunnel in the community?
>>738906659Literal baby controls lol arent you embarrass?
>>738906659
>>738906703Mouse is better for precision aiming
>>738905752> isn't forcing you to use steaminput to use a fucking controller>just forces you to use Microsoft's gameinput
this will be the last nail in the coffin for microsoft gaming
>>738906659Remember when everyone was shitting on nintendo for "wagglan"?
>>738906045Normalfags think it makes them play better at CAWK OF DOODY and Battlefield, like it gives them superior aim and movement.
>>738906734ya it just werks
>>738906548I just want to relax and play vydia comfy in my couch. But gyro is terrible for FPS unless you use a split gamepad.
>>738906705The mentally ill guy? You are not proving any point.
>>738906278>it works flawlessly on PCNo the fuck it doesn't. Maybe 20 years ago, but today it's missing way too many basic features to qualify as working.>You forget that your PC is also made by microsoft?It's not though.
>>738906726What about strategy games?
>>738906773>gyro is terribleagree
>>738906753Twenty years ago, sure, mostly because Playstation did the same thing with SIXAXIS and then promptly did nothing with it. Then they just copied the Wiimote wholesale and put out the PS Move.
>>738906726That's the thing though, if gyro is standard then games start being designed around it instead of sticks, sure gyro isn't as good as mouse but it's a hell of a lot closer, so the changes to game design benefit mouse players
>>738906819no it does not
>>738906776>t. melee troon
>>738906731Than traditional sticks. Yes. Flick stick + gyro and trackpad + gyro are practically just as good as mouse.
>>738906703m&k is the only vidya control setup that has an IQ filter and people like you prove this.>>738906773what fps game is comfy that isnt singleplayer. no singleplayer game needs all of this garbage unless you're a cripple. thats what these controllers are for, cripples. mentally and physically.
>>738906232cope, I have man hands and you're wrongalso>no gyro>shit stickspass
>>738905752>No need for steam inputAh, so you mean it has native trackpad support? Because that's the only thing steam input does.>does have track pads at all>nor gyro>nor hall effect/tmr sticks>nor d-pad indents evenOh noIt's retarded
>>738905752>controller not remappable >shitty D pad>no gyro>no touch pad>only 2 non remapable back buttons>No latest Chinese hardware TMR, bluetooth etc.>still using same easily breakable shoulder buttons not hall effect/magnetic/switches>overpriced and jewishNO xtroon and snoy troon are going downhill, these stupid jeet jew companies aren't gonna survive if they don't suck chink dick for the latest hardware and cheap R&D
>>738906896>Flick stick + gyro and trackpad + gyro are practically just as good as mouse
>>738906685>acting like xjeets are any betterThe truth is that both layouts are perfectly fine and it simply does not matter. Neither is any better than the other.
>>738906896Its not. Maybe 60% at best. Plus flick stick is literal cheating in competitions.
>>738905913Why would you use a gyro when you have a perfectly good mouse right there?
>>738906937>>738906946>>738906952see >>738906726
>>738906962Correct. Not syre why you're laughing.>>738906927>m&k is the only vidya control setup that has an IQ filterTrackpads too.
>>738906436funny because the elite controllers (both of them) were built worse than your average gameSAAAR or 8bitdo shit.They were plagued by stick drift, unresponsive triggers and the bumper buttons just randomly falling off because fuck you.
>>738906991I care about my wrist
>>738906969Symmetrical sticks are objectively inferior outside of platformers, and let's be real, you aren't using a modern controller for platformers because none of them have good dpads.
>>738907013because you're wrong
>>738906991This is a CONTROLLER for a CONSOLE. Not every game on Xbox supports mouse and keyboard. I know you're gonna say>Only retards play on consoleand I agree, but again, YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT.
>>738907030xbox controllers have great dpads
>>738906094>scroll wheelwhy they wouldn't put them in a place accessible to the same finger you use on a mouse is beyond me
The dpad looks like it supports a trackpad. If so kino
>>738907068No? It's a controller for the PC. Consoles don't have games, I don't know why you'd think any controller was for a console.
>>738906896>Flick stick + gyro and trackpad + gyro are practically just as good as mouse.
>>738906753Ye because 20 years ago none of the consoles did anything truly useful with it. The PS3 also had gyro in the controller and all I remember is using it to play Flower and that you could aim grenades with it in a few games, it was lame. >>738906765In the same way apple stuff "just works", but it fucks you over the moment you want to use something from outside the eco system. I prefer the dualsense to my xbox one controller, but very few games properly support it. I don't know if this has changed but back in the day I had to use a third party driver to get my xbone controller to connect to the USB receiver instead of over Bluetooth on Linux, and it still didn't support audio streaming.
>>738907093Oh it's fucking volume control, they aren't going to let you browse your weapon inventory Half-Life 2 style
>no gyro>but it does have cloud supportWhy the FUCK would a controller need cloud support? What does that even mean?
daily reminder that Valorant devs removed gyro aiming from PS gamers because the gyros gave them an unfair advantage over xgoyims
>>738907068>saaar saar this beery good quality buy xbox cantrollare, do the needful shut up fagget, standards have gone up for many years and the western jews haven't caught up, 1st party controllers can't even beat literal who chink controllers.
>>738907125Okay, now THIS is some low quality bait. Do better.
my favorite part about xbox controller superiority is how much it makes faggots here seethe
>>738907095How would that even work? You're a retard.
>>738907175YOU VILL OWN ZE NOTHING AND YOU VILL BE ZE HAPPY
>>738906973>Maybe 60% at bestIt's at least much closer. It has some disadvantages to mouse like lack of friction which means it's not as stable, but it also has some advantages. Lack of friction also means it's quicker to start turning for example, and you yourself admitted flick stick is superior to mouse for turning around. It's not cheating any more than using mouse is cheating compared to using sticks only.>>738907038You seem to have gotten mixed up. That's you.>>738907126Yeah yeah I get it. You're retarded and seething.
>>738905752If there are no TMR sticks then it's worthless garbage. You can't get away with offering shitty potentiometer sticks in a "premium" controller any more.
>>738907197Hey faggot, I wasn't shilling for the controller.
>>738907175"cloud button" sounds like it is as close enough to a "enter credit card button" as you can get without it being that. genuine sluuuuuuurp button.
>>738905931I've had the same exact experience. I love the controller, but god damn it's genuinely pathetic how easily the thing breaks from normal use. I use the Apex 5 as the daily and got a Steam controller as well. Apex 5 is easily the greatest controller I have ever used, and the Steam controller is significantly better than the Elite series 2
>>738907186>playing Valorant>playing Valorant with a fucking controller
>>738907162>dualsense
>>738905752Budget cuts means this thing will have worse build quality than it already does.
>>738905752It's going to have terrible QC just like the last one
>>738907232>n-no udoesn't work like that
>>738907015I like my 8bitdo shit controller
>>738906459Every gaming peripheral is made in China/Vietnam/Thailand etc etc and has literally zero proper QC that's why everytime you buy a new controller/mouse/keyboard/headset you're basically playing Russian roulette. Your controller can fuck up just like your new $150 wireless meme mouse can have its mousewheel fuck up within 2 months.
>>738907198It's not bait, I'm being 100% serious. They cannot be for consoles first if there is nothing to control on consoles. Therefore they are PC peripherals.
>>738907397>8shitdo
>>738907345>retard still unable to understand that controllers aren't inherently bad for aimingYou're on the right track at least. So many consoletards still won't admit that sticks suck, but you go too far in the other direction and act like controllers as a whole suck for aiming. It's just sticks.
reminder that the snoy opinions in this thread are null cause they defend and support this shit.
>>738907392Oh but it does when I'm right and you're wrong.
>>738907345Console peasants don't have much of a choice. Sticks barely work for slow-paced "cinematic" third person shooters, let alone fast-paced FPS, but they don't know any better. >>738907356Yeah what of it?
>>738907456no both sucks and that's a fact
>>738907467Are these snoys in the room with us now? How about "Both snoy and microslop suck"?
>>738907456>>738907501>still trying it
>>738907490>I'm rightya in opposite day
>>738907570What is this retard going on about?
>>738907549>no [lies and falsehoods] and that's a fact
>>738907467Their loss, too, Extremerate copied the stick modules for the Edge and put them out as normal thumbstick replacement toppers. I'm really fond of how 8bitdo symmetrical controllers look and work with older Playstation dog-nose toppers.
>>738907591but the only retard itt is you
>>738907589Yeah, which is today in your timezone, meaning I'm actually wrong on opposite day.
>>738907561c'mon
>>738907595prove that gyro can be just as good as mice. Post a video of you playing a shooter with gyro controls
>>738907630Because I don't prefer *your* controller of choice? Are you 9?
>>738907232Its not superior its literally a macro not technique so its cheating. And people don't play with floating ice skates because friction is good its feedback. You know nothing about top level fps if you actually think you've seen comparable gyro players, with cheats and all.
>>738905752>200EUR>Everyone somehow okay with thatRemember when people were whining that the steam controller's 100EUR was prohibitively expensive?Yeah.
>>738907294$169.99its a fast controller through wired mode but you got completely ripped off. They will replace the Hall effect with TMR and the price may drop.
>>738907456its so fucking funny seeing consoletards defend their controllers for decades and now that there are options to make it only somewhat shit, all of them immediately bite. its like an admission that controllers have never been good for aiming. enjoy doing whatever the fuck you need to do to aim now, i can just move the mouse.
>>738907658Wrong, opposite day is not until the 17
>>738907684NTS, but I hope Nintendo allows this contest for Splatoon4, it'd be really interesting to see.
>>738907686no because you say that gyro is as good as mice
>>738906816Wiimote nunchuck was a god tier controller. RE4 and Twilight Princess was great with it.
>>738907786But I never did, retard?
>>738907825this you? >>738906896
>>738907739i always maintained that sticks are a gay and retarded way to aim ever since halo 2 but things have changed. gyros are almost as good as kbm
>>738907813I have a USB sensor bar I keep on my desk just for Wii emulation, I love that controller setup and you really can't play Wii games right without it.
>>738907467What the fuck are you talking about? Literally everyone hates this stick drift shit and thinks it's insane that Sony didn't spend a few bucks extra for TMR sticks on the DualSense, let alone on the Edge. You use the controller until it starts drifting, then you mod it or buy a pre-modded one.
>>738907863LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, no its not
I wish Valve just released a Steam controller that's shaped like the Xbox without Gyro and the touchpads for like $90 and I would get it day 1. I don't like that square shape on the steam controller and I don't give a shit about the touchpad it'll just get in my way. The Xbox controller has the best shape even Sony copied it with the Dualsense, Don't know why Steam has to reinvent the wheel.
>>738907890i can tell you haven't tried it. your hardware is obviously all old as fuck and you're poor so don't try to debate me on it
>>738907861Nope. All I said is Microsoft's solution is also proprietary (and limiting input options) and I want more support for the DualSense.
>>738906436Yes, actually. My Vader 4 Pro is much better than my Xbox Elite Series 2 - except for the shitty charging block and buttons instead of paddles.
>>738905752>no trackpadsChinks and Burgers aren't even hiding their SEETHING about the Steam Controller. LMAO.
>>738907863only gyro that felt halfway good was on wii u, because your controller was the fucking screen. the joycons are too dogshit to replicate that on switch, so gyro is completely dead in my eyes.
>>738907925Get a Gulikit ESPro then.
>>738907925The trackpads don't get in the way, and I like the button and stick placement a lot more than I thought I would. My one complaint is that the back buttons are a little loud, and the pinky ones are a little hard to press.
>>738907931I did and sucks ass, quit the cope
>>738907938then have sony switch to xinput
>>738907993Somehow has less latency in bluetooth than the stream controller with its single
>>738907989usecase for trackpads when you can just use the thumbsticks to move the mouse?
>>738907950>>738907993I kind of want to give third party controllers a try, but they look so cringe. >>738908043xinput doesn't support any of the neat features of the dualsense like haptic trigger feedback.At least in Linux you can use the touch pad to navigate the OS, which is perfect if there's a stupid launcher that pops up to ask for input, but nope can't even do that in Windows.
>>738908102>haptic trigger feedbackhave you tried not asking for bloat?
>>738906436my 8bitdo ultimate 2c is worth more than the lives of some anons here
>>738908129it's a pretty fun gimmick. I prefer plugging in my controller to get the haptic triggers than playing wirelessly without it.
so how much money has the average console fag put into buying these retarded controllers? because judging by this thread, everyone has at least three.
>>738907925The steam controllers shape isnt much different than Xbox controllers, its slightly bigger overall and the extended lip for the track pads is deceiving
>>738908165I have at least 2 for my PS5. One for Coop and another to keep it on my desk for PC gaming.
>>738908129Well what's the point of rumble/vibration then, it's just bloat? Have you ever tried making a coherent argument in your life?99% of games are multiplatform anyway and their PS5 versions support the dualsense, so what's the problem with leaving those features in the PC version?>>738908158Yeah it's pretty neat.It's unfortunate that games revert to xinput/gameinput if you use it over bluetooth and will show you the xbox glyphs, it doesn't confuse me since I'm used to both, but it's still annoying.
>>738905752Bet it costs 400$ and still no gyro. I'll buy a scalped steam controller, and get a better experience for the money
>>738906094>touch padI thought that gimmick died out after the PS4, people actually liked and used that?
>>738908290Use a mouse
LMAO, low impulse faggots that bought steam controller just to post it on reddit and shill on 4chan on absolute suicide watch. Make way for the king, faggots.
>>738908048It has less latency over USB than my mouse (G502X usb) which is actually pretty crazy.
>>738905752same shitty stick pots or is ms actually going to give a shit? i know that's asking a lot of a zillion dollar corporation.
>>738908304The playstation style touchpad is unironically more useful on PC (linux) than on playstation.
>>738908356>the king>dropped chatpad supportnah
>>738907015The elite were built worse than the regular fucking controllersAnd first party controllers are already chinkshit tier nowadaysWhat the fuck are they doing
>>738908304It's fucking useless. Steammies only throw it around because the steam controller has it and they need to slurp Gabe's balls. Only thing it's good for is if you want to play an RTS on a controller which is retarded.
>>738908368They haven't said yet, which means it'll be ALPS pots, since if it was Hall effect or TMR MS would have made that an advertised feature.
>>738908304its nice when you can actually it (i.e. on pc) blame sony for not giving playstation users the power to config it. you can make the ds4 and dualsense's pads into a shitload of extra buttons and since its just touch it's saves a ton of wear and tear
>>738905913I really need to try out gyro at some point. I got a DualSense controller, and I've also used a DualShock 4, but I've never tried it. I guess I'm a bit nervous / shy, as well as not too sure how you set them up for like FPS games. I've played games my entire life, but this is like completely new territory for me. It does seem to be extremely useful for games that are easier with a mouse though.
>>738908507don't bother, mice is better
>>738908304I use it A LOT in many of my games. The way you can flick the pad in different directions as well as click them, gives you an additional +10 button binds for your games.
>>738905752Looks like shit.
A cloud button and 2 scroll wheels, that's all these stupid jeets have to show us after weeks of shitting on the steam controllerThis board is purely compromised
Microjeet truly are lost lmao.
>>738908525Yeah, but I don't want to play games by the keyboard, sorta hanging over it. It's not a healthy gaming position. I prefer to sit in one of those deeper chairs that lean back a lot for my back or lie down in bed while playing. You can't really do that with keyboard and mouse.
>>738908651then get one of these
>>738908165Enough for them to collectively shit their pants when Valve made a controller that wasn't straight up retarded
>>738906991Listen up faglord, there are games where you don't want to play with mkb but still want aim precision. Games like Nioh that aren't shooters, still make you aim with the right stick like a retard when you hold L2.Now, you could be a massive cock eater and reach over for your mouse whenever you want to shoot, but you could instead use a gyro controller and bind aiming while holding L2 to gyro and enjoy the best of both worlds like the giga brained chad that you are.
>>738908697That's some retarded boomer shit
>>738908716>shit stick layout>no removable battery>not retardedpick one
>>738908729see >>738908697
>>738908759Oh sick, I get to pick? Not retarded, because the battery is removable and the stick layout is great
>>738908758better than waving your aims in the air like a retard
>>738908716forcing you into their retarded trackpad gimmick making the entire controller bulkier.
>>738908697That's kinda interesting actually. But looks a bit wonky without a table. I appreciate the tip though, I had no idea something like that existed. I might have to look into it some more, thanks.
>>738908759Your opinion on stick layouts is retardedRemoving the battery takes a whole 3 minutes if you have a screwdriver
>>738908809>Oh sick, I get to pick? Not retarded, then you're not choosing the steam controller>because the battery is removablelol no it's not>and the stick layout is greatagain you must not be talking about the steam controller
>>738908830this nigga stuck in the mid 2000s
I have like three switch pro controllers that got drift over the course of me being a smashGOD in my friend group. From what I read those just need to be opened and the stick sensor cleaned or something. One day. Shame there isn't a drop in hall effect stick module like joycons.
>>738908880You seem to be struggling.
>>738908796Looks like we found a massive cock eater, boys.
>>738908834Its almost the same size as an xbone controller, do you have baby jap hands or something?
>>738908941>says the one using an inferior input
>>738908882>niggathis thread is for whites only, get out nigger
>>738908950>projecting
>>738909108>people defending microjeet shit>whites onlygood one
>>738909185their os may be shit but at least they make good controllers
>>738909136Only thing that's being projected is the cocks of gyro controller enjoyers straight down your throat.
>>738909237They make dogshit that misses inputs with stick drift, sorry to say. Your corporation is brown as fuck
>>738909302>still projecting his fantasies >>>/lgbt/ is that way fag
>>738909332vvorks for me, sounds like a skill issue to me
>>738909349Sorry, you don't have a say in this. For even suggesting that you should use one of those baby chair things and constantly swap your right hand back and forth between your controller and mouse, you're banished to the homo dimension.
>>738909559you're the one who brought up homo shit in the first place fag, mind telling us why homos love rent free on your head so much?
>>738909642live*
>No touch padNot getting one then. Still getting the Steam controller.Fax me the news when 8bitdo or Gamesaar are making one with touch pads.
>>738908304It is objectively an improvement to controllers and everyone should adopt it. It's bare minimum 15 extra inputs (Pinch and spread, 8 cardinal directions, four quadrants of touch, and then pushing) and the only reason people are against it is because Sony uses it poorly. It's a genuinely boon for controllers and allows them to put way more tertiary options or even weave in gameplay like Let It Die on the thing.
>>738909671touchpads are bloat that you don't need
>>738905913More like gayro.
>>738909731ha, gotem
>>738909642I came into a controller thread and saw some of the gayest shit ever posted on 4chan. I expected controllers, saw rampant faggotry.Like, the shit that you're posting would get you killed in most African countries.
>>738909809>I say some of the gayest shitwell then turn up your brightness then fag
>>738909708It's the only thing I need a new controller for. For my turn based 4Xs and old as fuck point 'n clicks.For everything else I already have my 8bitdo ultimate wireless 3000 extreme whatever it's called.
>>738909376guy your replying to has been seething in controller threads for over 5 years now. Hes been asshurt for so long that the most popular controller is from Xbox
full support to microsoft
>>738905752>Awful build quality>Proprietary Microslop API>OverpricedNo.>>738906278lolThe 360 controller was deliberately broken under Microsoft's own DirectInput API to force developers to include support for the significantly more limited Xinput. I wouldn't trust Microsoft to wipe its own ass.
>>738910156xinput just werks though
>>738910156>buy 360 controller near the end of its life >try to play some good ol directinput games>detects LT/RT as a single axis so I can't bind them for shitGood timesMicrosoft setting standards is a good part of why technology as a whole sucks mongolian dick these daysDragging the entirety of this industry behind because they don't support anything but the CoDkiddy layout for decades is something the fuck else
Which gamesaar works wirelessly on xbox?
>>738910429It's really terrible. Even worse is that their biggest competition right now are Valve, who do a comically bad fucking job of things. They've got a quick remap setting for controllers, but if you try and remap the trackpads, it glitches out and you have to edit the full profile instead. Usually they fuck up the hardware too though, and so far the steam controller actually seems pretty good, it's just the billion dollar software letting it down.
>>738905752No trackpads, but scrollwheels for some reasonNah
>>738907015It's crazy how bad first party controllers are nowadays. I never even heard of stick drift until the Nintendo Switch despite having been gaming since the Mega Drive and then my Dualshock 4 gets it. Lots of reports with Dualsense and Xbox Series controllers getting it. Despite charging an insane premium the controllers don't use hall effect anything and are made from toy plastic. Don't get me started on Sony stuffing their controllers with features that never get used but not doing the most basic of shit to make the controllers last. The fucking Dreamcast had hall effect sticks you greedy fucksThank god for Gamesarrrr redeeming the controller market
>>738910468G7 Pro Wuchang Edition and the ZZZ Edition. I just bought the ZZZ one and it came in today. You stick the dongle in, put the controller on the dock, connect the dock via USB to your Xbox, and then hold the home button and it just works. It's $20 (Or $50 if you don't want the ugly colors of the Wuchang edition) extra over the normal G7 Pros because they have to pay some licensing fee to allow it to connect wirelessly to the Xbox.Your only other option outside of this is the 8bitdo Rare 40th Anniversary Controller but most reviews I read said it's worse. The G7 Pro is pretty much 1:1 an Xbone/Series controller just better quality. Maybe it's ever so slightly bigger? I didn't put it side-by-side with mine but it just felt better. The only weird thing is getting used to the smaller face buttons.
>>738910536Valve makes the most busted software compared to what ships on Switch or PS.
>>738910598>The fucking Dreamcast had hall effect sticksSega always made the best hardware by a mile, because they had arcade experience. They had hall effect in the Saturn 3D pad, for the Saturn joystick they used fucking optical to avoid mechanical wear. The only other company who came close were Namco.Stick drift is all just the lowering cost of potentiometers, chinks figured out they could shave a few fractions of a cent off of material costs and now they only produce pure garbage that fails way too fast. It's like how we used to have optomechanical scroll wheels that worked flawlessly, and now we have mechanical encoders instead that fail in 2 weeks.
>>738910536Undeniable, they released a controller practically in beta stage. In the last 2 weeks there's been multiple firmware updates and despite linux being the "chosen platform" let me tell you firsthand there's some awful finicky shit there you won't experience on windows However I have hopes since I have a deck OLED and updates made this thing stupidly better over time (performance wise too)
>>738910763I'm cautious because my only experience with Valve hardware so far has been SteamVR, which is comically fucking abysmal and has had one QOL improvement in the past 6 years (they added the option to setup controller offsets, which should have been a day one feature and previously required external software). Hopefully the larger install base of the controller helps them fix bugs, but I doubt we'll get basic shit like the ability to remap the ... button or the ability to disable big picture mode if you accidentally click the guide button (which is otherwise quite useful as a master layer if you hold it down).
>>738910749Nintendo also used optical on the N64.Didn't stop it have egregious mechanical wear, but it's optical all the same.
>>738910919Nintendo didn't use optical, they used optomechanical. The sensing in the saturn joystick was totally decoupled from the mechanical movement of the stick. The N64 wear was just because they were too cheap to use metal like everyone else. My fucking vectrex stick 15+ years earlier still works with minimal wear.
>>738910873I'd honestly just wait until they iron out shit at leastI doubt they'll let people bind the 3 dot button given it's a multifunction overlay button and they primarily want to push their big picture mode or gaming mode or whatever the fuck but they've added things to steam input that are pretty fucking "1 guy somewhere might have some use for this".
I am NEVER giving money to Pajeetsoft.
>>738911217Shes the best thing to ever happen to xbox in a long while
does it have a backpack mode?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LZGssl3OBY
>>738905913where the fuck have these gyro schizos crawled out from under?
>>738908697Paying $130 for a fucking board lmaoLet me guess you are adding a $180 wooting keyboard and $180 superstrike too to make sure you have maximum performance.Kb&m are the biggest cucks out there
>>738912140Xbox was birthed into existence as a fully grown tapeworm in a cardboard box labeled "to a good home". The only good thing that can happen to Xbox is its removal from the face of the earth.
>>738906436Just bought one of these and it's so far really nice. Build feels solid, no mushy buttons, sticks are TMR and smooth, back and extra shoulder buttons, even the d-pad is alright despite being in the wrong place. Not all that expensive for what you get either.
>>738908304It's actually pretty neat but nobody really uses it.Completely useless on PS4, I don't know why Sony puts all this effort into their stuff but then just never use it. Is it a jap vs american thing?
>>738905752Does it have TMR sticks yet?
>>738913675no ofcit's a new legacy cuck controller for 200 bux
>>738913707Then I'll stick with my chinkshit. 8bitdo Ultimate 3E is coming out this year anyway.
>>738905752The wheels seem like they'll be a good fidget toy, just like L3 R3 and Switch 2's joycon unlock buttons
>>738906249LGBTQ lesbian cult ruined vidoe games and American culture And that sucks because some of em are probably smart enough to realize it
>>738914252>LGBTQ lesbian cultbro the american culture is the reason for their existance. all those shitlib ideals are part of american history.
>>738905752>falls apart
>>738906436We're not in the age of Mad Catz anymore. First-party controllers are genuinely worse than third-party Chinese controllers even if I believe the DualSense is by far one of the best controllers out there and just needs a Vita d-pad to beat out everyone else. First-party controllers all either have some issues or are lacking in features despite costing the same price. You also get the same warranty period as any first-party controller because these companies want to be legitimate competitors with everyone else.>They use Xinput so they're getting the same support any official Xbox controller is.>They all have Bluetooth so they're supported on phones.>They have TMR or Hall Effect sticks depending on the age which no first-parties have.>They let you lock back buttons so you're not forced to awkwardly dance your grip around them, and they in general always come with some.>Some of them allow converting the triggers from analog to a button press.>They have incredibly high polling rates.>They typically come with some sort of charging dock by default without having to spend extra.>Many of them outright let you replace the sticks while coming with different variants and sometimes the d-pad just by lifting the buttons up.>They have batteries that are typically twice as big as first-parties.>They almost all have gyro functionality.>They almost all have haptic everything be it rumble or analog rumble.The first time I held a Nova Lite 2 that was when I knew they're not cheap garbage like PowerA controllers, and now using this ZZZ controller that is further cemented. Chinese controllers are objectively higher quality than first-party ones. No one is even bothering to compete on their level and they do it at half the price first-parties do. A relative of mine bought a Nova Lite 2 to replace a broken Xbone controller and it cost $30 while having twice the features. A G7 Pro (Non-Xbox) costs half of what an Elite or DualSense Edge does but has more features.
>>738910749>chinksdude, one of the cheapest and best hall effect controllers on the market is make by 8bitdo in Shenzhen, Chinadon't blame chinese people for the behavior of your greedy bastard corps
I see they learned nothing from their shitty d-pad past
>>7389155328bitdo makes dogshit, and solving a problem you caused isn't really a good thing.This isn't like microswitches, where chang did try and save a few cents but the bigger issue was dogshit circuit design and improper voltage levels. Chang killed the potentiometer.
>>738906045You must consoom product to make you a better citizen.Paying more money makes you a better citizen.
>>738906204>left stick in the wrong placeit's in the most ergonomic place for 99% of people.it's positioned so that your thumb is in a relaxed position. same position as the face buttons. your right thumb is mostly used for the face buttons, your left thumb is mostly used for the left analogue stick.if you mostly use dpad, then sure, it may not be comfortable for you, but for everyone else it is ergonomic.the playstation style is inferior, a primitive design from where most people were still using the dpad.
>>738915532I had the Pro 2 and it was a piece of trashIt's cheap because it should be
>>738908697That still seems really uncomfortable. Keyboard and mouse just don't work with anything except an upright sitting position.
>>7389155328bitdo pads are shaped veirdly. They are the only xbox like pads that make my hands hurt after long monhun sessionother xbox like controllers dont do this
>>738916491they use the moldings from switch controllers which suck ass. the xbox 360, one and steam controller grips are angled much more and sit easier in my hands.
>>738916482Why would you listen to this cuck who drank and promoted onions and is making pizza hut nostalgia videos?
>>738916548Because he's right. I want to lean back in my Eames Lounge chair while I play games. My hands falling into my lap, not stretched out over a keyboard.Some games are better with keyboard and mouse, namely competitive FPS and RTS, but those aren't the games I play to relax after a busy day of work.
>>738905752here's your new controller, babyhands
>>738905752>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT USE STEAM NOOOO REEEEEEEEEKill yourself.
>>738906220Lets see you play without aim assist
>>738907694people here will have conniptions about valve especiallyit's okay when the others sell you overpriced dogshit, maybe expected even
>>738915195My issues with the dualsense run deep.It has the very bad battery life, no xinput mode, is Bluetooth only, and to use dualsense features in supported games you have to plug it in.They need to release a PC dongle for it.
>>738907694>>738912519
>>738905752Sticks will still driftFace buttons will still stickBumpers will still diePaddles will still loosenGrips will still peel>That'll be two fiddy
>>738917126who ordered the sicilian controller?
>$150-200 for a controller>but it comes with 16 GB of onboard RAMsign me up
>>738918828>PC dongleGet a Pi Pico2Whttps://github.com/awalol/DS5Dongle
The PS3 and PS4 controllers are ergonomically design wise the best controllers. Best face buttons and thumbstick design, thumbstick button input feel, trigger and shoulder button feel. The Xbox controllers are too clicky. The shoulder buttons should just depress not click. Top of thumbsticks feels better on the thumb on Sony controllers. Claw grip better on Sony controllers. After having the DPAD on top for a while I can't go back to bottom.
>>738905913Fpbp. /thread
>>738910612Last time I checked the ZZZ one was almost 200
>>738905752Three versions all using the shittiest chinesium parts available. I've never had a controller break as much as the elite.
>>738920656retards keep buying them.
TMR JS13Pro or GTFO
I am never EVER>giving money to microshit>giving money to a company called gamesirFucking never. I consider both a humiliation ritual. 8bitdo is ok. Steam controller? Sure. Sony and nintendo pieces of shit controlers? Can get behind. Gamesaaar? No way in hell. Microshit? Gtfoutta here
>>738916547How's the steam controller anon? Does it work on consoles? Does ir work outside steam?
>>738920656>>738920698some are even proud of owning them. they are the appendix of this industry.
>>738920698yeah i have a friend who has constant issues with them but refuses to try anything third party or even use his switch pro controller that he owns (he gets mad about the button layout even though it's easily altered with steam settings)he got me one of those 'xbox for windows' controllers as a gift a few years back and it's lasted longer than his elite controllers, aside from the rubber being worn down to smooth
>>738920854>How's the steam controller anon?great. it's everything other controllers aren't. >Does it work on consoles?don't own one>Does ir work outside steam?yes?>>738920913i also have one of those. i have k-silver sticks in mine and the recharge kit. the base version being more reliable than the elite is just comical. (mine developed stick drift after one year).
>>738905752>steam controller added touch pads, we can't look stupid with our new product!>I know, let's add scroll wheel! Heck, make it two!The fuck do I need a scroll wheel on a gamepad for? World of tanks, manually controlling each thread? Fucking retards
>>738916227If you can't claw with it the controller is shit, simple as.
>>73890575220 bucks says it's still gonna have potentiometer analog thumbsticks.
>>738921141>claw with it the controllerUse the four fucking back paddles, you mong
>>738921141How the fuck did you fail to claw on an xbox controller? It's easy.
>>738921292>paying hundreds of dollars extra just to get back buttons>back buttons have to be relegated to dpad to fix an issue that was artificially createdmmm no
>>738921686no way you gonna reach the back buttons with a claw grip. with the valve setup you got more input buttons. stupid anime troon.
>>738921061>it's everything other controllers aren't.garbage?
>>738921838yeah legacy controllers are garbage in comparison. that is true.
>>738921742>no way you gonna reach the back buttons with a claw grip.Are you mentally deficient or is your hand deformed? Of course you can retard.>with the valve setup you got more input buttonsyeah because Valve put the sticks in the right spot dumbfuck.>>738921638With your thumb on the thumbstick?
>>738922034>Are you mentally deficient or is your hand deformed? Of course you can retard.sure. just play like a normal person. no need to claw grip with the steam controller. that is just legacy from sub par controllers of the past.
>>738908304how retarded do you have to be to compare ps touchpad to steam trackpads?
>>738905752It's designed to break in 2 years exactly when the warranty expires also won't be TMR sticks $250
>>738905752Comfort was never the reason I didn't buy an elite. When I was in the market for such a controller, I read so many posts about them breaking within a year.
>>738906094post your steam controller with a timestamp
>>738906436My vader 3 pro has outlasted 2 xbox elite 2 controllers
>JeetsoftI don't buy products for shitskindians. boycotting that race
>>738916227i like to actually play games so my thumb is never relaxed because i keep moving it around just like i like to keep it moving around inside your moms pussy
>>738905752>make perfect controller years ago>just keep making it worse nowwhy? the only good additions to gamepads in years has been the back paddles and center touch screenjust stop and focus on quality or meme shilling colors like frutiger aero or retro shit like that kuromi goth haunted controller
>>738922124You don't need to claw 100% of the time, symmetrical layout let's you easily use your index to hit the d-pad, you can't comfortably do this with the xbox layout as you've already shown in your image.
>>738923346>comfortably>claw grip anything...
>>738905752great so it will break just as much as the last one right
>>738905752>bar code is positioned the same way as a fashion band aid on lolisIncredibly based.
Is TMR expensive or something?
>>738925261yeah. you can't sell replacement controllers that way on your locked down platform.
>>738925261For the shareholders yeah, price wise no
>>738925261No but it curbs people rebuying controllers when they drift and the first party companies don't like that
>>738925261yeah it eats into their profit margins when they can't design their garbage products around forced obsolescence
>>738912298It's been a meme on here for a few years at least. I don't get it. What are they playing that gyro makes their experience so much better? What ever supports that garbage?
>>738916491really because they seem quite comfortable to me, no worse than the switch pro controller
>>738906436It's not the 90s anymore unc
>>738928439Splatoon.
>>738907294>but god damn it's genuinely pathetic how easily the thing breaks from normal useyep I've literally never had a controller break on me this badly until I began buying these "elite" controllers. It honestly started to make me feel like this is some sort of conspiracy: they know the big-spenders will buy the elite controller so who cares about durability? those people will just buy a new one if theirs breaks. never buying an xbox controller again if I can help it
>>738929630I had THREE Xbox one controllers broken out of the box and one of them was the one that came with the console. Two had broken LB buttons and the third one felt finicky but it would have been absurd to go back to GameStop a third time in one day and it worked ok so I kept it. Its LB button broke in 6 months. Got 3 game sir controllers for $20 each (1/3 the price as Xbox base controller). They feel 10x better and have hall effect sticks that can't get stick drift. Now they're like $30 each, not $20. You gotta be a retard to pay over $50 for a controller
