Gaben just gives me stable fast downloads with no bullshit while pirates want me to disable my antivirus and run exe/bat files as admin

I'm sorry for your poverty and abundant melanin

nobody asked, vegan

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i only pirate old shit because it isnt sold anymore. anything new that i can just buy, i cant be bothered to pirate. i dont need to preserve my tendiebux like you do.

>>738908267
Yeah, I'm sure the multi billionaire is wrong and an anonymous poster on an image board is correct.

>>738908267
i pay $80 just to not have to put up with 3 hour installs from MinerGirl and the like

>>738908267
poor people pirate

>>738908267
You aren't who he's talking about. You aren't a lost sale because you are never going to pay for videogames under any circumstance.
He's talking about the people that can pirate games but are also willing to buy them under specific circumstances. Steam is all about creating those circumstances.

>>738908520
>he thinks pirates are poor
it's about not paying.

i'm white so i prefer to contribute to the advancement of video games. you can cope and seethe about how modern games are trash but those arent the ones i pay for. pirates are the sole reason everything today is live-service slop, and i refuse to contribute to the cancer because i am not a spirtual nigger.

You don't pay for games. You pay to get the social media experience.
Every time you boot up a single-player game you log in and update your steam, it's like Gaben is saying hello.
It tracks which games you play and when you unlock each achievement, like Gaben is watching you as you play.
And the best part is that you can customize your steam profile so all your friends can see.
This is why steam dominates. You can easily buy DRM-free games or pirate them, but that completely misses the point. People don't play games because they want to play games, they do it so they can show other people what they've played.

>>738908267
i pirate games when i don't have money and purchase them later when i do have money

>>738908267
Id buy ps2 games and shit if they made physical copies again. There are no new pc/console games that are worth buying and the old ones you buy from boomers/resellers on ebay not the original devs.

Ill buy new games when theyre worth paying for again.

>>738908434
He was correct though. In the 2000's the rest of the industry treated PC gamers like thieves while Gaben treated them like proper customers who deserve fair treatment.

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>>738908607
Youre the kinda guy to steal a candy bar from 7/11, feel bad, then try return it a week later while saying sorry.

>>738908553
my pocket money goes to anime girl figures so I constantly pirate games.

>>738908562
But it is about being poor
Why would you choose not to have Steam's features otherwise?

I also refuse to buy games with annoying drm I'd rather pirate it or not play it

steam being as popular as it is has forced publishers to bend the knee and put their shit on steam and thats based

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>>738908569
>pirates are the sole reason everything today is live-service slop
Imagine actually believing this

>>738908805
>live service slop is the reason why pirates panic download everything
Not my problem I want most videogame devs living out of a box.

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>>738908728
needing steam to play games is the equivalent of being cock caged

>>738908267
Are you poor? Would you have bought the game if you couldn't pirate it?

>>738908887
What is a steam emulator?

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>>738908887
>think about steam
>first thing that comes to your mind is wearing chastity cage

>>738908927
you pay full price for games?

>>738908267
Poorfag

>>738908267
Piracy has never been a huge problem for gaming. Here's a fun fact:

- People would rather play old games through Emulators than Pirate new games

- Piracy isnt an issue in today's ecosystem since Live Service games are all FREE and they have taken over the market (Gacha, Fortnite, etc)

- 99% of actual pirates do not play the game they pirated for more than 30 minutes because it was never about playing the games it was about sending a message to game companies

- Just gonna drop some random game name; No fucking body is out here trying to pirate JRPG slop like The Diofield Chronicles lmao. Its only the big AAA games like EldenRing that do get a nice sized pirate community.

Piracy has never ever affected the sales of games, Gamestop has done more damage than any Pirate since they make millions of dollars from used game sales

>>738908887
so you're brown, insecure, browse blacked porn and use windows right?

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I deserve everything I want for free as compensation for being forced to share my world with billions of not-mes, and it's not my fault that no one understands that. Anyway this thread is about me now, let's all talk about meeeeeeeeeeee.

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>>738908267
>rothschild seethe thread about Steam No. 45,783

>>738908267
>STILL RAMPANT
Where? In your head? Kill yourself.

>have the option to pirate games and pay nothing
>instead pirate games and buy them later and using the excuse of "convenience" to justify the purchase
in the second scenario anyone who does this could've bought the game first with no excuses and clearly the matter of convenience was never important since they went thru the trouble of pirating the game first.

the question is then, why would you pirate first if you could've bought the game instead?

I went from torrenting 100% of my games to not torrenting any PC games in the last 15 years so I'd say that's pretty successful.

>>738909545
>the question is then, why would you pirate first if you could've bought the game instead?
Some people want to "vote with their wallets"
This doesn't work if you get tricked into buying something bad, so they buy only after playing

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>pic related in development for 8 years
>niche game with niche level of sales
>head dev says he might need to get a second job to continue paying for development
>black jew eceleb makes a YouTube video in it
>said video also includes CD key that still works even today
>literally everyone can now effortlessly pirate it and play it for free
>what actually happens is so many people tried to buy the game it crashed the purchasing site
>twice
>devs now have enough money to live comfortably
>even hosted the video on the main site
This game taught me a lot about the piracy scene. The people who pirate purely to get free shit are in the minority, and the piracy "problem" is actual propaganda.
Just make good games that people want to buy. It's not that hard.

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>>738909604
>"I became goycattle spending money on digital pixels, he won..."
wow, way to admit defeat.

>>738909545
I pirated AC6, thought it was a cool game, was annoyed that i wasn't using steam for it though.

>>738909673
sounds like those people are morons.

>>738908267
I’ve always believed this too. Companies having a cry about “losing sales to piracy” is bullshit, because the niggers who pirate games never had any intention of buying a game to begin with.

>>738909705
>Saar you lose izzat by being a member of society and not exploiting everything you can to only benefit yourself

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>>738909705
do you go through life thinking about things in this way? pretty funny way of living

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>>738908267
Basically. The outrage over japs' "corpo dicksucking" is because they correctly pointed that people will still pirate even if they give goyjin a legal mean to buy their products.

>I'm a nog xD
Thanks for letting us now OP.

>>738908267
>I would still pirate games even if there were no service problems. the whole point is to not pay for games.
That is because you are brown and your time is worthless.

>>738908267
Only normies buy games on Steam because they NEED the social shit from it.

>>738909893
anon has no friends and is trying to brag about it

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Moralfagging over piracy is pretty gay, I pirate it because if I can get it for free then why should I pay? The average consumer will also do the same if given the chance, too.

Regardless of a service problem or not, piracy is inevitable, and making your products available and easy to access can soften the blow of lost profits.

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same faggots shaming others for being brown or poor also wait for steam sales.

>>738908267
>rampant
It's really not. You have no idea how bad PC piracy was in the early 2000s. Your little zoomer brain really cannot comprehend how much piracy happened then.
Maybe a few people pirate these days. Back then, everyone pirated games. Everyone.
PC gaming genuinely almost died until that fat fuck saved it.
Now PC gaming is bigger and more profitable than console gaming.
Piracy still happens, but nowhere near the scale it was.

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Pirating an indie game or any game that updates frequently is fucking retarded because I'm too lazy to redownload and manage the saves for all these games. I'd rather just buy it on Steam and have everything done for me automatically.

>>738908267
It's mostly just impoverished thirdies and NEETs pirating now. Also Valve is the exception, there are still plenty of shit tier services in vidya. Remember how Valve was accused of a monopoly and sued because they were just that much better than the competition?

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>>738910207
>>738910154
>trading freedom for mindless consumerism is good, actually.

>>738909604
Same, and I used to pirate everything on consoles too. Gaben isn't enjoying his yatchs right now for no reason, he knew his shit.

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>>738908267
I use steam just because it's convenient but their service is still very fucking far from perfect.
>bunch of old games in a shit unoptimized state, you have an easier time getting a cracked version to run in many cases
>missing a lot of good games, some of them were never available, many got delisted (sometimes in favor of demasters)
>store filled with the shittiest shovelware asset flips, early access moneygrabs constantly shoved in your face, with no quality control
>trading cards and badges and item shop are a disgusting money laundering scheme that should not exist
>forums and discussions are beyond useless, people are either ragebait farming or bitch about some inane garbage
>requires you to open the launcher to launch a game
>even gotta launch uplay and origin or whatever current their name is for many ea and ubi games, needing to have 2 launchers to get to your game
I support piracy, it's still the number one in preserving and giving you access to your games.

>>738910278
It's OK to be poor and/or brown, just don't frame it like you're the gaming version of Rosa Parks

>>738910278
Anon, you can either have a service that most people use, where you are still completely free to pirate whatever you like, or you can have 0 games on PC. That's where it was heading.
You can do whatever you like. You should thank the wagies for making your hobby free.

>>738908562
You are poor though.

>>738910356
videogames existed before steam

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You simply can't make third worlders understand the idea of paying people for their work instead of taking it for free
if they could understand it they wouldn't be third worlders, even when they migrate, they just bring the third world with them

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>>738910278
need the money for more henny, or do your foodstamps cover that, boy?

>>738910459
guy on the left is right, guy on the right is a retard

piracy is a service problem in the west
in russia and south america where they are locked out of the internet for various reasons, they are forced to pirate to play at all
people that want to pay for services will do that if they can, i would argue that most people will do that rather than pirate
i wanted to watch stargate sg1 but no one was offering it so i pirated it, then mgm offered a 5 dollar monthly sub on amazon prime so i got that instantly because it is high quality, no risk of malware and ease of use

what is this attempt at correlation between being poor and pirating games? anyone posting on the internet isn't poor.

>unbelievably cheap service that lets you download your games anytime anyplace
>sells you amazing hardware at a value
>the best community hands down
>the best treatment of creators
>stands up for adult games when Visa attacks them

>"no, I'd rather get sketchy .exe files from god knows where"
That would have been a bad idea in 2002, it's still a bad idea now.

>>738908267
it might not be true for you but its true for the majority of people
just look at anime, its a pain in the ass to watch legally and sometimes completely impossible
Im not even talking about niche unknown stuff from 20 years ago even though they are affected but modern, famous stuff, like in my country I can watch attack on titan but only seasons 2-4 and not the finale (which isnt so bad all things considered but anyway)
piracy sites not only remove that hurdle but offer much much better service for fucking free and the result is everyone I know even normies just use the streaming sites

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>>738910548
i fucking wish.

>>738910531
you were tricked into getting amazon prime when all you wanted was stargate.

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>>738910548
uh

>>738910620
i already had amazon prime

>i pirate
Ok, now shut the fuck up about it.

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>>738910645
>>738910609
reevaluate your definition of "poor"

>>738908553
I pirate but I will buy games, yeah, but not with the current shitty censorship. I'm gonna keep pirating shit out of spite and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>738910609
why did it drop?

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>>738910708
when did piracy stop being something that you avoid talking about? dont people value where they get their pirated shit anymore?

>>738910905
Another 50 million babies were born in the rural nowhere of India that doesn't even have running water, bringing the average down.

>>738909893
>Only normies buy games on Steam because they NEED the social shit from it.
For me it's the Workshop.

As someone who has been modding shit like ARMA since it was called Operation Flashpoint 20 years ago, having 40k+ mods on Steam that are easy as fuck to download vs having mods spread across a dozen different sites, countless forums, different clans, groups etc and trying to keep them all up to date was fucking aids. Like full blown fresh off the boat congo nigger who had a dozen of his pozzed uncles and some chimps for good measure run a train on him for days aids.

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>voting with my wallet
isn't it fucked up how you have to pay to even express your opinion.? real voting is free.

>>738911104
>real voting is free
it's free because it doesn't actually exist. they just say it does to keep people happy.

>>738908267
I will never understand how acting like literal niggers doesn't hurt you subhumans deeply in your soul.

>>738908267
If you would never ever buy a game there's no point trying to convince you but there's other people in the world.

>>738911212
you're a retard for buying something you can get for free.

>>738908520
a lot of shit i pirate (ancient brazilian porn, japanese media of various kinds) you literally cannot buy even if you wanted to
for many things piracy is the only solution

>>738908267
He isn't wrong just because youre a shit skin.
Steam reduces pirating drastically because paying is easier than pirating 70% of the time

>>738908609
If a game is worth playing, it's worth paying for.

>brown brown brown
valvepiggies are desperate.

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>>738911261
t.

>>738908267
When you think about it, gabe solved the "games costing money" service problem by making all his multiplayer games free

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>>738908267
>the whole point is to not pay for games
As long as enough people aren't parasites, pirates live a good life. Pirates should be thanking the paying customers for their freeloading but that's hardly ever the case, which shows stupidity and malice besides laziness and parasitic(antisocial) behavior.

>>738908562
yes they are do oyu have any idea of the percentage of indians russians south maericans and people on welfare/children without moneyetc that pirate? most of them have no money whatsoever

so im sure a lot of them anyway are selfish third world thieves. but them being thieves isnt incompatible with them being poor

>>738910949
When third worlders got more Internet access.

>>738908267
>solves
But he didn't? Games still come out with obstructive DRM and lack mod support and you don't even own what you buy, so yeah I would rather risk getting a virus then put up with all that junk + give tip

i stopped pirating games once i could afford money
still pirate music and movies tho

>>738911430
Why dont you just say non white and mutts? you dont have the balls to describe reality? Who is gleeing at the slightest power they have to crush others to compensate? People used to not do that before. We know which is the factor that has changed.

Reminder that piracy existed even back when Bill Gates wrote his first OS (Altair) for terminal computers that didn't even had a display screen - so they had to print-out their logic outputs onto paper reels.
Software pirates are fucking eternal.

>>738911440
Had to scroll this low to find the obvious reason. Goes to show even this website is filled with them.

>>738909705
When i receive a good or service, the people involved in the creation and distribution of that good or service are entitled to my money. This is how white people live life, this is how the world works, and anyone who can not follow this simple rule is less than an animal.

>>738908267
>steam just works
>the private tracker I was on blocked me for "hit and runs" on things that were marked "freeleech" when I downloaded them
Lack of piracy is a service problem: Pirates served me worse so I've been buying everything since about 10 years ago.

>>738909673
The real problem with Starsector is the ultra-autismo modscene where people can and will create counter-mod DRM which can corrupt your HDD if it detects that you're trying to use another mod made by some other autist that's randomly hated by some other autistic troon for not mentally sucking their feminine penis hard enough on a hidden Discord ERP server.

I buy waifu figures I can own and touch, not videogames that need a launcher and come censored with politics I don't agree with.

>>738908267
In the original context of this quote he was specifically referring to third world areas like Russia and South America and by "service problem" he was referring to slow or non-existent localization leading to delays for local release.

He was not referring to first worlders who just don't like to pay and he was not referring to Steam as being a solution to piracy.

Also, he was mostly wrong. While Valve was right in that better localization does reduce piracy in the areas he was still talking about it was still ridiculously rampant.

>>738909223
nobody mentioned blacked kek
self report

I pirate because I want to play the game without supporting the devs. I have money to buy it on steam, I just don't want my money going to them or gaben.

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>>738909841
The bigger issue people don't understand is that
I'm not going
Can't pirate -> Buy
I'm going
Can't pirate -> Don't play
So the game is losing out on a potential fan that could buy merchandise down the line, or at least shill the game for free and result in other people buying it + merchandise down the line and so forth.

>>738908320
Just like ubisoft or gacha launchers.

>>738908267
I think a lot of people on here have problems considering the viewpoints of others or not thinking something through.
Something not applying to you doesn't mean it doesn't apply to anyone. Is it maybe an autism thing?
Just because you would pirate regardless doesn't mean everyone else will, and models like steam or streaming services have shown that offering better service will net you a bunch of customers.
>He didn't fix piracy though
That isn't the objective, the objective is getting more customers and more money.

>>738908562
No it really is. Let me put it this way, would you pirate a game that you could hassle-free buy for $0.01? Of course not, because a penny is effectively 0 and it's worth it to save the time it takes to pirate something. Now scale that up. At certain income levels, a $70 game is effectively still 0 and well worth the time and energy it takes to pirate something.

>>738911430
This is a fair point and the reason countries won't literally collapse even with trash people its because there's a bunch carrying that weight yet instead of taking they'll envy and try to steal from them.

>>738910770
You're poor if you make minimum wage or less and don't have at least 6 months of expenses saved up.

>>738911881
I mean this is the problem that free to play and gacha gamers were made to solve, and for an idea of how well they solved it please look at three quarters of this board and also most game charts.

>>738911882
And Steam.

It has admin access. And anything it launches also has it. And we know Valve doesn't vet very well leading to multiple instances of malware being distributed on the platform. Also Steam itself has had multiple vulnerabilities discovered. And they are slow to fix. In one instance Valve was taking so long the guy went public with it just to get them to get off their asses and fix it.

>>738911730
Ok but why pirate those games then?

>>738911864
Why would you not want to support someone who made something you enjoy? It just doesn't make any sense.

>>738912024
what kind of person has $70 dollars but not 3 hours to spare searching and installing a pirated copy of a game? sounds like a no-life workaholic who either doesn't buy games or just hordes them with no intention of playing.

>>738908267
I stopped pirating games. Once a year, i buy bunch of the in sale, play them and return to gacha. I still pirate movies and music.

>>738912323
should I tip the waitress even though she didn't cook the food?

>>738908267
it's no longer a service problem, it's a triple a slop problem and modern audience

My piracy workflow is simple:
Do I feel like pirating this game? If not, is it worth buying anyway? If not, fuck that game.
I can't understand the mindset of people who pirate games they hate.

>>738908267
It's all about convenience at the end of the day. If you're poor, it's more convenient to pirate. If you're well off, it's more convenient to pay. Companies playing an expensive game of whack a mole against pirates who do it for free is futile. That said, people who feel the need to advertise their pirating habits regardless of their situation are almost invariably faggots in my experience. Just play the damn game bro, I dont need your philosophy.

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>>738912323
I feel like a dev would get more money from you if you paypaled him 10 bux than if you spent 80 bux to buy his game published by someone else on a storefront operated by yet another company

>>738908562
>all these seething replies
Lmao
I have money, I'm not a richfag, but I could buy the games I play. But why would I spend money if I don't have to?
I'm always appaled at the faggots here larping as super rich by saying that they can just throw money into the trash. No actual rich people would ever do that. You don't stay rich by burning money, unless you're sheikh tier rich.

>le poor
>le don't pay
Both sides are missing the point. Having money AND spending money are both acts of submission to the central banking economy. A real hylic human being would simply take everything that he wants. We don't need money. You want pretty poppy you take pretty poppy.

>>738908562
It is very much about paying
>t. pirate

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>>738912598
what if I have money and still pirate

>>738912892
what if there were consequences for just taking things

I pirate games because I'm poor
I graduated with a bachelor's in 2024 and haven't been able to get a job since
I can't care about the hecking deverinos when my own life sucks so much

>>738912997
Good luck Anon

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>>738908267
>/vpol/ rightly chastise niggers for stealing things
>acts like niggers by pirating games

I pirate because I can. If I can't pirate that game, I'll pirate a different game.

>>738913202
niggers are too stupid to pirate + piracy isn't stealing

>>738912952
As long as you spend more time talking about pirating than the things youre pirating, it's all good in my books.

>>738908267
That was back when there was a service problem.
Games were pretty good and complete back then, nowadays you're lucky if the launch version has basic functions.
The cash shop always works and has a bunch of QoL stuff every time too

>>738908267
>piracy is still rampant
objectively false. you have no clue of how pc gaming was back then if you say that

>>738909219
Piracy has always been an actual boon for gaming. I know an Arab to whom I have recommended some games that he pirated and loved, and he later bought the games on sale on Steam to support the devs and have it neatly in his library. Piracy lets people try out games they would not have bought otherwise out of uncertainty, and any decent game will get good word of mouth. It's only absolute rugpulls like TLOU2 that need anti-piracy measures so people do not get the memo of the game being a stab in the back no one should buy.

>>738913202
except i dont give middle aged women PTSD by ripping their handbag out of their hands and beating the shit out of them, retard

Yes but you're not supposed to say the quiet part out loud

It only brings developers attention to it

>>738913332
>>738913520
>t.mutt

>>738909841
There is a difference between legal and good. If the product is too pricy, or inconvenient to install and launch, then that's on the publisher. People only pirate if they're unsure about the quality of the game (in which case they'll buy later if the game is good), or think they're getting a bad deal. Russians didn't pirate because they're le slav subhumans, but because spending a week of salary on a single game purchase is unreasonable.

Waiting for the last 3 years instead of impulse buying paid off because voices38 and hypervisor are literally raping denuvo right now.
PC and piracy always win, baby.

>>738908267
there is no such thing as "pirating". there is only for sharing

desu I barely even pirate now, don't remember when I even pirated modern aaa
no, I don't buy them neither

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>>738908267
Okay but consider:

>>738913591
im european you brown retard

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People often cry about piracy being rampant, but never have any data to back up what percentage of people do it regularly to the point where it'd actually make even the smallest of dents on game sales.

So, until you start showing receipts, you're just a shitflinging schizo who wants attention by making wild statements. That attention isn't paying your bills, retard.

>>738913784
you still act like a mutt

>>738910770
For everyone of these pictures of homeless White crack addicts you have 100 of you in the same position eating literal shit, ranjeet.

>>738913517
You think the suits dont know that? They dont fucking care. THe job of the board of director and CEO is to destroy the company to make money money during the next year. If you can make mor emoney during the next year but slowly kill the company its all good. Gotta go FAST !

He popularized DRM, now nobody questions it and is happy not owning their account tied games.

>we believe we can improve the statistic from 50% to 70%
>well I am part of the 30% and nothing changed for me so I guess you failed, huh?

>>738911262
>ancient brazilian porn
how good is that?

>>738913814
There isn't any data to prove anything in piracy in general. It was literally never proven that it negatively affects sales, the closest we have is a rumored muffled EU study that concluded piracy doesn't hurt sales.
The whole DRM obsession publishers have is based on common sense instead of statistics or science which is pretty pathetic

>>738908267
This

>>738908605
Is this bait?
It's funny because I've started downloading GOGgames just so shit DOESNT get tracked on steam

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I stopped pirating over the last 15 years, not because of any moralfaggotry but because most new games that come out aren't even worth the time spend downloading them even if they're free.

>>738913814
>>738914246
Piracy is such a huge problem, that good games still make hundrends of millions of profit apparently.

>>738914430
But you COULD have bought these games, so in a way its lost sales and you re a thief.

>>738914246
>the closest we have is a rumored muffled EU study that concluded piracy doesn't hurt sales
No, it didn't.

What that study concluded was that piracy negatively affects sales in all situations, i.e. movies, music, tv, video games, etc., except for one and that was video games that have content locked behind online only that pirates do not have access to.

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>>738913830
seething brown retard detected

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>>738908605
Normalfags OUT.

>>738908267
I only pirate Nintendo roms

>>738908267
As a europoid I already pay for video games by my government taking 40% of my paycheck and giving a portion of it to game developers and publishers.

>>738908267
It's just a lie told to retard execs who watched too many DVD prerolls and music industry whinging about piracy and think that DRM is some magic cure-all.
The actual truth is that piracy will always exist, but the only reason for piracy to have a real negative impact on your sales is if you are selling a bad product, are bad at selling your product or both. To stop your target audience from pirating all you need is a minor speedbump and good service, it doesn't matter if millions of people pirate your game because you were never selling to those millions of people, you were selling to your target demographic and everyone playing after that is just free marketing to help you sell more games. If you were somehow relying on selling to more than your target demographic to turn a profit, then you were setting out to fail anyway.

>>738914671
Where do you think the 2008 bailout money ended up?
Everyone donates their paycheck to retarded investment firms and banks.

>>738914682
They also never factor in the cost of the DRM in the first place. It's 25k a month, 300k a year. The amount of people who in the face of not being able to pirate would buy a game full price is so low the companies are in all likelihood losing more money than they gain by engaging with this anti-consumer bullshit. Especially since Denuvo and such are known to actually drive away many sales, since people would rather not get punished for paying, and instead just get the pirated version whenever it comes out.

And all this happens because of retarded investors who will get bailed out of any obscenely retarded decision they make. It's good for absolutely no one except the faggots who own Denuvo.

>>738908267
I pirate because I don't have an income. Can't find a job and it's mostly my mother that pays the bills. I also don't want to support bad games and greedy corporations but that's only a secondary reason why I pirate.

>>738914516
>>738908605
Why are they like this?

>>738908267
Shot is too expensive so that fat fuck was lying from the start as with pre-installed torrented games you can launch them even faster than by using steam copy.

I don't own the games I buy on steam though

>>738908267
>the whole point is to not pay for games.
You're dumb, Anon, because you don't understand the relationship between time and money.
If you want to play the last indie game, one option is to pay $10 on Steam, download the game in 3 minutes, and have it ready to play, another option is to join a Discord server full of transvestites, then find a link to a forum, then download a cracked version of the game from some Russian guy, then click on a suspicious .exe file, then spend 2 hours scanning your PC because you suspect malware, then realize there really is malware and spend another 2 hours fixing the problem... you’ve ended up wasting more time than $10 is worth.

Yes, piracy is generally safe, but it's inevitable that you'll come across suspicious files here and there. The whole point is how much your time is really worth.

>>738912506
False equivalency. You literally said you don't want to support the dev, who would be the cook in this scenario.

>>738912646
Well you feel wrong and you can calculate this for yourself using publicly available information.

>>738913332
>piracy isn't stealing
Correct, but irrelevant. The thought process behind both is the same.

>>738917542
>Correct
Then thinking
>The thought process behind both is the same
Is retarded

>>738913784
No one who is actually from a european country would ever say "i'm european". You would just state your country. Confirmed brown larper.

>>738908267
There is a service problem. Steam sucks

>>738917752
>>738917016

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Why do you guys care about pirates unless you're selling games yourself? I sincerely doubt you actually believe it makes the industry worse.

>>738917813
I have a game on steam that sold for 0 but hundreds of people played it on pirate websites

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>>738910459
The devs of most old games on steam won't see a penny from your purchase. It's gonna go to some dickhead publisher who had nothing to do with the game.
Congrats on giving a random rich faggot more money.

>>738908267
I support devs I like, and for ones I dislike, why support them through liking and talking about it??

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>>738917016
Your time is so valuable you are making up bullshit in /v/, retarded tourist

>>738908267
I mean he had a point, i only started pirating after buying 3 games that i didn't play and couldn't refund(2 didn't run on my toaster, the 3rd was some faggy politics game that played like shit), before that i just bought games normally.
Besides that people would pay for games for moral reasons, since it is stealing in a sense

>>738909673
>piracy helping spread awareness of some niche indieshit means R* would make more money if they gave away GTA VI for free
Things aren't that simple anon

>>738908267
Piracy is the only way to get around payment processors trying to decide what you are allowed to see.

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I only buy games on gog because i fucking hate steam or any other platform like that. If it's not on gog then i pirate, simple as

I just want to double click on my game and play the damn thing without steam wanting to update every fucking time.
No, i don't fucking care how many hours i spent playing my games
No, i don't give a fuck about what my friends are playing
No, i don't care about editing my profile and showing off my collection

I just want to play fucking games

>>738918242
Steam has offline mode
You don't have to engage with the social shit
Cloud saves and auto-updates are convenient
If you use Linux, Steam is a godsend

>>738912190
>It has admin access
Only the installer, retard.
>And anything it launches also has it
not if you don't give it yourself.

>>738915068
I think at this point most of the major companies not run by Japanese boomers know that Denuvo does not exist to convert pirates into paying customers, it exists to slow down audience feedback.
Who is going to buy the game on launch? Fans and plebs who will respectively either rave about the game alongside the shills or slowly chip away at it for weeks due to their job taking up most of their time. If the game gains a massive audience of pirates, then you also get a massive audience of people whose time has no value talking about all of the game's faults.
A lack of negative reception in the first few weeks means more impulse buys from the uninformed, but also it means that the shareholders don't know that the game is a stinker.

>>738908267
Well, you're a sample of one.
Also there is an enormous army of people that will buy games if the price is right and they're allowed to.
The whole world is not the US, and PC games were literally impossible to buy in most of the planet before steam.
Also giving people steam money is the easiest way to give a present to a friend on the other side of the globe with 50 bucks to a BR being like 20 games.

>>738918504
True, TLOU2 remains the best example of this, they really didn't want the memo about Joel to come out because that makes everyone instantly stop playing this garbage, and it's something they were so ashamed about they asset-swapped Jesse with Joel in the trailers, directly lying to people which in a non-jewed system would immediately get them prosecuted for what is objectively and undeniably false marketing.

>>738918772
>they asset-swapped Jesse with Joel in the trailers
I never followed TLOU2 during launch or later because I never cared.

Did they really do that?

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>>738918861
>Did they really do that?
Yep. Joel is clearly shown and says "You didn't think I'd let you do this on your own", and in the game it's the exact same scene, the exact same dialogue, but it's Jesse (Joel is already dead at that point). It's straight up false marketing. This is why Neil Druckmann, the literal brain-damaged Israeli with very weird posts (see picrel), did not want that to come out.

>>738908887
So is it about not paying or about not liking steam? Which is it?

>>738908267
I don't buy shitty games, which is indeed a service problem. You better towards woke faggots? Bad service towards me = not worth my money.
You slap intrusive malware onto the game? Bad service towards me.

Would have bought KCD 2 and DD2 day one, but they decided to throw malware into it at the last minute.

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>>738908267
>games cost 70 euro while the average salary is around 800 euro in here
>baka people pirate

>>738917813
I don't really care about pirates, they are a minority anyway. But Gaben's point is still true

>>738917906
Yeah but the studio had to pay wages and more money studio gets more likely it's going to create more games and jobs.

>>738919161
Post hand.

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>>738919360
What's the matter?

>>738919324
Yeah, if I buy Warrior Within right now, Ubisoft will make more games like Warrior Within instead of the absolute slop they churn out. Naive as fuck.
The people who actually developed the game already got paid. 99% of them probably aren't even in the studio anymore.

>>738919463
And I thought I was pale.

>>738908267
What the fuck is your problem, dude?
We don't need you in in our hobby!

>>738919469
And if your money went to the people who worked on the game 25 years ago your money would go where?

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>>738908267
>solve piracy
>publishers raising the prices to 80 Euro / USD
>piracy is back
wow who could have foreseen this

>>738919572
To the people who worked on the game 25 years ago, you're really bad at this.

>>738919572
To the people who actually made the game lmao.

>>738919635
No I mean where do you think the money would end up after that and how would this help video games?

>>738919658
Yes so you're supporting someones personal life who was hired to code and follow orders. They could be doing god knows what today. How is that video games?

>>738918772
>Dragdog 2 just quietly shoving its microtransactions off to the side in some document given to reviewers and not actually including them in the review copy, so it was basically completely unmentioned in all the reviews
Denuvo should just come with a preemptive false advertising lawsuit.

>>738908267
I buy games because I can afford them and I'm a stupid consumer. Pirating is always the best option.

>>738919589
If you ever had to buy anything of your own you'd know what inflation is.

>>738913784
Indian.

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>>738908267
Maybe if digital games were cheaper than physical due to no extra production costs it would solve something meanwhile there are games that never go on sale on steam while being full priced for years when the same physical edition is rotting in a 10 bucks bargain bin

>>738919662
>>738919709
>Direct financial incentive to make good video games
A mystery, true headscratcher

>>738919959
They're not people who live to make video games. They just apply for jobs and then do the job. Someone has to provide them the job first. What you're saying only applies to indie but even there are cases where it doesn't work. Like when an indie game is a hit and it has many buyers what happens is very few people end up getting millions without actually creating new games, jobs, or any growth to the gaming as a whole.

>>738919907
The decreases in production cost were never turned into decreases in buying price for the consumers, all so shareholders can continue on being so obscenely rich their money doesn't even make sense due to nothing being worth remotely close to what they have. Huey Long was right (and the jews killed him for it), the US should never have gotten involved in either world wars, and no man should be stupidly rich. There is nothing wrong with an extremely comfy lifestyle, but no one needs 30 millions in the bank account.

>>738920234
>Someone has to provide them the job first.
the 'people who provide them the job' are not the same execs of 20 years ago who were somewhat passionate about vidya. They only see the medium as a mean to a lot of money. They do not care about your game. They do not care about you, outside of your wallet and how they could extract more money from it.
I don't want my money to finance those parasites.

>>738920234
Classic "you need kikes". Saw it coming from a mile away

>>738920340
The money isn't going to anyone directly. It's going to the company. Company that is in the field of video games.

>>738908432
this
i'm so fucking tired of having to organize my saves and pirated games
steam is so convenient, especially if you play on SD

>>738917752
Wrong.

>>738920415
You don't. But it is conveniency to most. Nobody is stopping you from starting your own business. If anything it is desired as it creates more jobs.

>>738908267
yes, of course.

>>738918127
>Make good game
>People will buy it even if piracy is an option
That's what he actually said, retard

>>738911886
But I did have breakfast this morning

corporate LOVES to pretend piracy equals lost customers so they can deduct the "losses"
from their revenue to evade taxes, and to mislead investors into believing there is unutilised growth

>>738908267
Okay brown boy.

>>738912332
I literally cannot be fucked to pirate any early access game because I cannot be fucked to go through the process of updating a pirated game when it gets a new update I'm interested in.

>>738919907
That kind of thinking went out the window when the publishers conspired to continue pricefixing after CDs made game production dirt cheap.

>>738921847
>yeah so we are not paying taxes because I think some people are stealing
That's not how it works. Can you atleast try to stay reasonable when making fun of jews so we don't look like schizos?

>>738908267
Why pay for something if you can get it for free with no consequences? It really is that simple.

>>738922015
no thats exactly how it works, there are entire organisations dedicated to "tracking" these "losses" for the sole reason of committing this tax fraud (and lobbying)

>>738908267
Games are one of the few mediums that I still pay for.
I still pirate some of them, but it's ones that I wouldn't buy.

>>738911070
Don't forget the links being dead or the websites filled with retarded ass drama. How many mods and missions have been scattered to the winds because of armaholic going down or some nigger having a shitfit because someone called him a mean word?

Lots of poor projection in this thread
I can afford to buy the games I want, I simply choose to pirate them because it's based
Fuck capitalism

>>738920724
You folded pretty quickly, kek. Sad.

i don't mind piracy but I don't know why the fuck do people come and try to justify it, it's not something that needs a defense at all

you will never be able to convince anyone that the industry is shit and that you are 100% in the right so I don't know why the fuck people waste their breath

>>738912646
devs gets monthly/weekly wage during development, when you pay for a game only upper management of publisher and dev company get a share of that

>>738923096
therefore pirating / boycotting AAA games is morally correct

>>738922997
Like I said nobody is forcing people to work for the jew. You are free to become your own provider.

>>738913202
You can't steal something that can be infinitely instantiated

>>738912683
this, it's also the advantage of being tech literate

>>738923303
LOL LOL bLOL LOLL LOLL LOL LOL
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA
WOOOOOOWO HOOLLLYY GOYIM !

>>738923702
Sorry I don't speak hebrew.

The moment I discovered Steam and that I can have all my games in it, I pretty much stopped piracy altogether, so I guess Gabe was correct. I genuinely can't be bothered to play anything that isn't on steam.

I bought Mass Effect Legendary Edition cause it's more convenient than keeping the separate isos around :)

>>738923982
Don't you only have to install the game once regardless? What are you even saying?

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Aww man, I meant to post this here

>>738924096
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retards that do not pirate are just tech illiterates and are constantly coping how it is about this or that or morals they are bankrupt with or supporting the developers which they are not whatever the fuck internet is full of faggots and biggest faggots are ones that feel a need to justify their consumer habits

>>738924126
You make me feel quite crabby

>>738924064
I don't keep every game I've played in the last 30 years installed at all times.

>>738908432
Same, but also pricing. I pirate Nintendo and old Playstation junk the most because if I want to buy a 3DS/Switch/whatever "port" (they are never native ports. It's always just running an emulator complete with the same differences you see running emulators on PC like framerate etc.) then it's like $15-60 for a game that I bought already once 20 years ago. It isn't that I can't afford it; it's that feel like a ripped off pay-pig if I do. So I just grab the ROM online instead. If old SNES games and such were like $2-5 max, I would buy them without a thought. That's what I do for old PC games.

>>738924267
>feel like a ripped off pay-pig if I do
I feel this way with buying AAA games on release. I can easily afford it but I guess decades of Steam sales have brainwashed me never to buy full price games

>>738908267
I am someone who otherwise would be pirating if not for how reliable steam is with updates and qol. Im also not poor. I still pirate games from companies like ubisoft out of principle, since I keep being told that piracy costs these companies money.

>>738922120
Because it's the right, correct thing to do, and i'm not an opportunistic jeet.

>>738908562
then: time but no money for vidya
now: money but no time for vidya

>>738924850
Just don't get a gf or family, ggez

>>738918352
Steam installs a service as well as the client. The service always has admin access privileges.

This is why, for example, Steam can scan you entire hard drive and all your hardware without any sort of UAC prompt. You have no idea it's doing this. After it's done this only then does it ask for permission to share that information with Valve.

This service has been at the center of many security vulnerabilities with Steam.

>>738925752
>This service has been at the center of many security vulnerabilities with Steam.
such as?

>>738908267
he was right about that, but up to a certain percentage. it's never a 100% conversion rate from pirates to buying customers. there's also a Venn diagram of those who both buy and pirate, like myself. what's a lot different from the times when I was young is that now young people, teenagers, and kids have A LOT of free shit to choose from, not just league and CS. there's fortnite, roblox, genshin, wuwa, zzz, POE, NTE, where winds meet, marvel rivals, overwatch...

>>738908320
Windows wants you to run as a admin, even if you use the built in Admin account or you aren't writing to your HD/SD/MV.

>>738923528
this. also when you "buy" a game, you don't actually own it. you only pay mega corps a license to use their product. the game is not yours.

>>738926818
https://www.theregister.com/on-prem/2019/08/08/chap-uncovers-privilege-escalation-vuln-in-steam-only-to-be-told-by-valve-that-bug-not-applicable/474793

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>>738927262
>claims many issues
>posts one link from the dark ages
>it is a non-issue

>>738908320
this. piracy becoming irrelevant is not a money problem, but a service one

I don't pirate games anymore because I rarely play anything new anyway, but I still pirate professional software.
Adobe and Autodesk can kiss my ass.

>>738927773
no its just a brainlet nigger problem
your father if he is even alive is a stupid nigger, if not he totally abandoned you and did not even show you how internet works
either way, you are fucked little nigglet

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>>738908267
I can't even remember the last time I pirated anything. with steam its so piss easy to wishlist something and then pick it up for a handful of dollaridoos a couple of years down the line

Infinitely more comfortable then downloading possible trojans/keyloggers/backdoors/crypto miners on your computer

>>738927938
>claims pirates are poor
>is totally tech illiterate
>waits for a license to play a game on a discount
lol steamniggers are truly something else

>>738908267
>Some chinese peasant with 50 cents to their name pirates some ubisoft video game
>WTF WE ARE LOSING GORILLIONS! QUICK! MOVE EVERYTHING TO CONSOLES! FUCKING THIEVES!
>Gabe notices people who pirate games, were never going to buy in the first place 99% of the time, and there's plenty more people who are potential customers who aren't being served
>Serves them games
>Profits bigly
>WTF STEAM IS A MONOPOLY ON THE PLATFORM WE ALL ALL DENIED SALES TO!

>>738928298
steam is literally only popular because it is a chromium piece of shit easy to use platform, that is literally it, you just have to make your software piss easy shit to use so that 90 IQ trogs can do it, there it is

do we really need this fucking thread every day??
Im starting to think its just Denuvo employees trying o justify their shitty drm

>>738928519
it is the same brown guy that keeps making this thread every day for the last 3000 years

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>>738917813
pirates are the vegans of vydia. obnoxious attention whores who want to passive-aggressively convert you to their cult. Since most torrent sites would die out without enough seeding from hosts

Just like you tell vegans to fuck off irl you shit on pirates whenever one of these goblins sticks their head out. Only use cases for it anyway are for stuff that is gone from retail or stuck in copyright limbo. And those users dont preach about it like gospel but quietly seed their respective torrents. Like AvP2

>>738928091
fuck off steamiejeet.

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>>738908267
>microtransactions
>battlepasses
>live service garbage
>body type a/b
>movie games
>exclusives
>jewnuvo
Gabe may have solved the service problem on his platform but the game industry as a whole is not deserving of my money.
anyone who isnt a mindless consoomer knows this as well.

>>738908267
Leg me be clear when Gaben said piracy is not a pricing problem he was referring to people with enough money to make it pointless. If all games costs $1 nobody would ever pirate again.

>>738930928
I would, nigger.

>>738908267
Based

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>>738924126

>>738931828
Well meme'd my friend, does make me sad though

>>738928426
Yes retard that's the service problem being solved

>>738908267
Fair and fine, but there is a huge amount of the demographic that only pirate for ownership/convenience. Technically circumventing paying for it is the definition of a convenience but that's neither here nor there in the conversation.

>>738908520
or rich people pirate and use their money on other things. If rich people can afford it, how come they do their best to never pay taxes? Are they too poor?

i get pirating, what I don't get is telling people about it
you'd think people who pirate shit would be hush hush about it but for some reason they become the biggest faggots in the universe who have to loudly announce what they are doing and why they are morally in the right

>>738932167
>would be hush hush about it
cuck

>>738932167
its evidence they either
>want change in the industry and this will send a message
>want others to enjoy things and not get docked by ownership rights and enshitification with services exploiting them
its altruistic to want to teach others how to fish.

costing money is a service problem anon

>>738932250
why would you loudly announce a game is cracked/pirated or give links, that's an easy way to have them taken down

you know how much shit has been taken down because faggots on the Internet can't help themselves to do that?

>>738932323
nice try, kike

>>738908267
Eh, I pirated pretty much every game ever when I was made. In the last ten years or so, I prefer buying it. Steady job means I can afford this kind of shit and its less hassle in general. Granted, I don't buy new games, just on sale.

Third worlders really have no shame.

>>738908520
Fair enough, I am pirating since 1995, so keep paying for my games, waggie. I want a second title of my favorite slop.

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>>738930987
i can see why

>>738931963
for whom? 90 IQ shitskins? wow congratz brother

>>738927542
many such cases & many are saying this