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>Have to give up your rights to play Subnautica 2

No thanks, refunded.
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based slop rejecter
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if you pirate it you don't have to agree to anything
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Blast-havers...
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>>738917370
Pic rel is a smart cookie, I wish more gamers were this self-aware
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>>738917370
>He thinks tos stand up in court
They don't lol even in muttland
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here's to hoping it blows up, but I have my doubts
the average gamer doesn't care about getting raped, only if its lubed or not
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>>738917457
Yes, but if you make a mod, they'll still try to steal from you.

>>738917464
I've noticed that LLMs seem to like this term. This could indicate two things:
1. the person is translating the text from another language using AI,
2. journalists are using LLMs to write their articles.
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>>738917370
That's not how GDPR works
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>>738917648
It's ai. Blast haver
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ToS at the point of sale before money changes hands.
any clauses or statements in the ToS that affect the customer directly (signing away legal rights, agreeing to never share the copy, anything claiming it's a temporary license) has to be agreed upon individually with a signature.
when buying a steam game means signing your name with your mouse 6 times, suddenly people will be aware and critical of ToS bullshit

>haha you already bought the game, what are you going to do, hit 'decline' and never play what you paid for
>hey hey what the fuck are you doing you can't refund our game to avoid the ToS
>steam is a damgerous monopoly that needs toppling
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>>738917370
Thats*claps*every*claps*single*claps*eula
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>>738917370
ToS is only there to scare people, if the company breaches your rights, every judge would wipe their ass with the ToS, regardless if you technically sold your soul by agreeing to it
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>>738917370
Just crack. These wokies even fired the music composer of the first game. They don't deserve the money.
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>>738917370
only based review for this game
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>>738917370
>Blast haver
>Woke tranny game

lol lmao
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>>738917464
Form-returners...
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I've noticed a lot of modern games have these license agreement walls, I usually alt f4 and delete when I see it
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>>738917370
TOS aren't enforceable anywhere that matters.
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>>738917605
>Yes, but if you make a mod, they'll still try to steal from you.
that's not a problem i'll have to worry about
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General Data Protection Regulation is about data protection. It has nothing to do with your ability to play game without agreeing to ToS. It just means that a random company can't just use your private data without you explicitly agreeing to it.
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This would never hold up on court.
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>giving your data to shlomo

What could go wrong
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its even worse
I read this and I instantly know asian subhumans wrote the eula
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>>738917370
The agreement doesn't matter if it breaks the law :)
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>>738917370
Why would you want to play survival slop in the first place?
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>>738917483
I wish I was, I just blindly accept and play.
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>>738917370
So it's Jewish and woke
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>>738917370
>no class-action lawsuit allowed
I don't think that stands even in the most jewish courtroom.
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>>738918163
This is why GOG, itch io and physical games are better.
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>>738919638
Disney does it just fine. You just need enough legal firepower.
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>>738917975
ToS are also not above the law and anything in violation of the gdpr obviously won't be enforced.
But I approve of shitting on these developers for a variety of other reasons
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>>738917370
This arbitration bullshit companies are trying to force across the board is really, really bad.
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>>738917370
just pirate it.
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>>738919453
Probably 80% or more of those terms are outright illegal in Australia. Our country is pretty cucked, but unlike the US it's legally impossible to "voluntarily" waive our rights, and I'm pretty sure it's still illegal to commit crimes ("Unauthorized access to a computer", ie hacking) even if you force someone to agree that it's okay for you to do it.
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>>738917370
According to European law, you cannot renounce your rights, the TOS is litterally worthless, its only purpose is to serve as a paper thin shield against internet outrages and as a tool for PR corpospeaks.
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>>738919453
Wtf is that EULA? No way human wrote that.
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None of this matters because normies don't care, have never heard of this, and are buying it anyways.
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>>738917457
Pirates ALWAYS win baby.
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>>738919453
Lmao, I don’t know how things are in the USA, but if Europeans decide to sue their asses, there will be no more Krafton.
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>>738920438
@FBI @NINTENDO @POTUS FOUND ANOTHER ONE! ARREST HIM!
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Imagine playing games with an eula.
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>>738917975
But I never clicked on the ToS.
It was my 3 year old nephew.
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>>738919453
>You do not own the mods you make for the game
Man, the Dota/the Valve-Blizzard lawsuit really broke the game mod industry huh.
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>>738917370
based
now pirate it instead fellow enlightened consumer
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>>738917975
>>738917975
>>738917975
>>738917975
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Not even pirating that mossad garbage but nice try shlomo
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>>738920823
lmao it's not 2011 anymore. a handful of MTX refunds given to parents of small kids caused the big business lawyers to assert that if you, as a caregiver, don't lock your device away from them at all times, you're fully responsible for everything they click on.
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>>738917370
More proof that pirate Chads are morally superior
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>>738919418
Kek
Piece of shit of game not even worth pirating kek
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>>738919453
I'm almost tempted to buy to just soni can join a joint class action sue or how the fuck is called, pardon my europoorness here
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I hope people make videos about the EULA and people start mass refunding it and mass bombing it
Kek
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>>738917975
how many signatures would this mess require? more than my mortgage did for sure.
>>738919453
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>>738920976
Its funny just how much damage that did because Blizzard was THAT mad that they didn't own dota.
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>>738919453
>krafton in the eula
?
Isn't krafton no longer the publisher after the lawsuit?
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>>738917370
>you renounce your right for a class-action suit
kek do the retards that write this even realize those things don't hold up in court and you can sue anyway?
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>>738917370
you never own anything, you cant bury your steam profile or physical media to your grave, even if you did bury them with your body you cant play them and they will rot underneath the dirt - much like your body. Stop with this stupid baseless illusion of owning anything, you were born with nothing and you will die with nothing, period
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>>738923156
so why don't they detail the sun rising every day in the ToS if they're merely parroting existential fact for the user's benefit?
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>>738920404
>sold 1 milly perhaps more in just 24 hours after released
man those EULA reviews sure is something to be rage about
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>>738921258
reminder that these same normalfags outrage that the game got leaked and pirates get to enjoy the game without paying a dime. Karma-ed for sure
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>>738921201
Big fucking question mark? Pulling shit out of your ass?
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>>738920404
Sad but true.
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>>738919689
The only thing of value GOG has done is make piracy easier. Paying for the same experience as a pirate is fucking retarded.
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>>738919453
We are never going to get Hi-Fi Rush 2 are we?
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>>738923839
yeah the shit out of my ass is why you haven't seen any case like that for over 10 years. use your brain, moron.
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>>738920245
>unlike the USA
Are you stupid? Inalienable is literally defined as "cannot be taken away or surrendered" and is a trait applicable to near any right in any common law nation.
>but we here in Australia actually blah blah
nigger you had concentration camps during covid. Don't pretend you're any better at this shit than anywhere else
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>>738924081
definitely a plus. i pirated planet crafter because i had a terraforming itch and the last game i bought to scratch it (Plan B Terraform) wasn't fun at all.
Planet Crafter is definitely not worth the asking price but as a free borderline idle game while i watch TV it is pretty alright. if a friend said they wanted to play it together and it was half off, i'd now buy it. but i'm not buying it full price for myself alone and i'd have never even considered purchasing it at all if I hadn't pirated it

last 2 games i pirated before this one i wound up buying not long after, core keeper and foundation
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>>738924254
I've used the actual processes dipshit. You ARE able to get a refund if your child purchases things without your consent. Because companies would much rather deal with that than chargebacks.

Ask your dad to explain it
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>>738924456
>i've received some refunds out of court
>this is how I know that the courts don't accept "it was my kids, not me" anymore, which means that "my 3yo hit accept on the ToS" is a freebie win vs the ToS no matter what
i can't tell if you lost track of the conversation or if you're actually smoothbrained enough to think your personal anecdote has anything to do with most of the shit we're talking about ITT
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>>738917370
>>738919453
literally none of this shit is legally enforceable. this is the same as that disney+ bullshit. they dont own the rights to your firstborn child just because they put it in the tos/eula.
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>>738924456
hey moron, anon's dad here
you saying "i want a refund" and the company saying "yes" does not have anything to do with "court".
hope this helps
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>>738924659
okay? what's your point?
we should ignore their attempts at treating customers like data? we should stop leaving bad reviews for bad faith practices?
Are you just so self-centered that you believe "I don't feel that I'll be affected by this" is a good enough reason to try and tell people not to discuss it?
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>>738919453
The "you give up all rights to sue for any reason" part is automatically thrown in the trash. Whoever wrote this ToS clearly did not understand how to word this properly to keep Krafton from liability.
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>>738924968
It's mostly so they can scare off retards from doing anything to them
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>>738917457
It's almost like there are zero downsides to pirating
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>>738923416
>to be rage about
Hello sir
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>>738917370
>>738919453

what makes companies so anal about their customers?

Wouldn't just be enough to write in whatever legalese term
>no illegal copies
>no modify the game illegally
Because those 2 are the only morally obvious one.
Things about giving away your right to sue? About reserving the right to pull the game from you at any point in the future without notification? About harvesting all your datas? What the fuck?
what do they need all that other noise for?
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>>738917552
Forced arbitration is a thing in US of A.
It's corpo-dystopia.
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>>738919453
>mod loli into the game
>krafton officially owns it
>report them for loli
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>>738925617
Modern problem, modern solutions.
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>>738925512
As others have already stated mulriple times in this thread, they know none of it would legally hold up in any reasonable court. It's all there to scare idiots that actually read it into inaction.
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>>738925617
kek
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>>738925512
Lawyers who do overly complicated and safe ToS seem like they are doing better job than the ones who make basic ToS so they are more likely to get hired again. Under so many layers of managment, the connection between specific job and product value/customer satisfaction dissolves and the logic behind this becomes more like "we are big enough that we should do corpo things like ToS, so we might as well get full premium package instead of basic shit just to be safe".



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