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>gets raped
>suffer in hell for it
what did they mean by this?
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>>738923454
She lay with a man who wasn't her husband and G-d punished her for it.
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>>738923454
It's about guilt. It doesn't matter if she was justified in killing her dad. She was fucked in the head and felt guilty and felt like she deserved to be raped.

Silent Hill doesn't punish the wicked, it's just where crazy fucks end up.
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>>738923734
I do like how morally ambiguous it is. Even with James the ending vary between genuine redemption and self destruction.
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>>738923454
>I'm looking for my mother (to murder her because I'm a bitch)
Make sense now?
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>>738923454
The schizo 4th dimensional plane does not care about morality
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>>738923454
she’s used goods and deserved to punished by God for having sex
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>>738923454
>>738923734
The town's power is residue of a literal satanic/demonic cult.
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>>738923454
If you got raped you probably deserved it
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>the magic demonic town has to follow the artificial morality created by humans
Yeah no
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>>738923454
This is what happen when you deny sex with me
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>>738923454
It's not "hell". She's not being "judged".
She, James, Eddie and Laura all see what THEY think they deserve, deep inside. This is why Eddie's living his bullied child's revenge fantasies, while Laura is just playing with toys and games in a funny land.

Angela was not only abused, but also brainwashed by her mother and siblings to believe that she deserves all of it. Literal gaslighting and abuse, resulting twisted psyche, that led to a revenge x family murder-suicide.

This is something the nu-SH2 fags often don't get about the game. It's not a "town summoning folks for a trial", it's them stepping into supernatural area that PROJECTS what's inside their own skulls, through a very grim filter at that.
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>>738923734
Really? So if you have zero remorse Silent Hill is normal?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsPCHiqHw-c
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>>738925054
this but unironically, dont dress provocatively, still getting raped? bite him and gouge his eyes out, its a genuine skill issue.
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>>738925212
Yesn't.
See : >>738925205

Again, Eddie and Laura are the prime examples of this, where as in 1, 3 and 4, all people were subjected to a stronger alpha projection of a single source, with some lesser mental projecting happening in smaller scale.

This is no Hellraiser.
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>>738925205
Silent Hill 2 makes no sense. Why did two muderers and two girls go to the hell town? Idk. Demons just kinda exist there and the town as a whole has an agency for no reason.
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>>738925008
SH2 mentions outright there is more than the cult at play in the town.
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>>738925225
You can also shit yourself and they will 100% stop, but they don't want them to stop
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>>738925343
Hi OP.
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>>738925008
The cult is there because of the town's power, not the other way around
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>>738925008
SH2 is different

>b-but the lore!
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>>738925212
>So if you have zero remorse Silent Hill is normal?
Did you not play the game? Laura walks around like everything is normal.
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>>738923454
Honestly, too many people missed the point of SH2 in development so it inevitably became a twisted and fucked up purgatory/hell world of punishing the "wicked". It is kind of funny that the town gets offended if you outsmart it when it makes you do fetch quests.
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>>738925343
>Silent Hill 2 makes no sense
It makes perfect sense, and has been explained in great detail, both by official documents and fanbase, decades ago.

People these days just don't seem to consume literature, and cannot grasp subtext and symbolism that ain't spelled out for you.

>Why did two muderers and two girls go to the hell town?
Because they had personal reasons for it, and it was not a "hell town" for most of its history.

>Demons just kinda exist there a
No, they do not. Literally nothing of the sort has ever happened there, before the Alessa incident in the early 1980s. And even then, it was a result of a mental projections corrupting and altering the area.

>the town as a whole has an agency for no reason.
No, it does not. It has no will, no preferences, no agendas. It just exists, and has a natural force that brings out people's in-most desires and fears out into 3D world.

>>738925008
>The town's power is residue of a literal satanic/demonic cult.
Incorrect.
What Westoids later coined as "cult" was nothing more than extremist CHRISTIAN church, that had adopted some local pagan ways ... because surprise surprise, that shit actually WORKS.

The "end of the world" shit is literally the Biblical Apocalypse found in the Book Of Revelations, which Dahlia's small pact tried to hasten, using Alessa's psychic skills. This ended up "cracking" the Silent Hill's natural powers, leaving them into a sort-of overclocked autopilot mode.
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>>738925054
The type to say a 10 year old boy who is groomed by his elementary school teacher is 'lucky'.
>>738925661
>Did you not play the game?
Of course he hasn't.
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>>738925242
Somebody rape these nigger tourist reposters to death.
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>>738925426
what if I don't need to shit
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>>738923454
Islamic rules, the woman who gets raped has dishonored her family and must be put to death.
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>>738925769
>The type to say a 10 year old boy who is groomed by his elementary school teacher is 'lucky'.
The teacher is always hot in those cases, 10 is a bit much (doesn't happen often), but a lot of cases the kid is 14 and yes that's lucky as fuck
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Silent Grill
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Let's try to save this cursed SH thread by posting the SH PC Guide + Pastebin links:

https://pastebin.com/uf5XhyXz

PS: SH1 PC decomp soon!
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>>738925212
Yes. Innocent souls who go to the area see nothing wrong with it. Laura has no fucking clue what James is talking about when he mentions monsters.
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>>738923454
She's crazy and psycho and probably killed her father and her brother.
Also crazy.
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>>738925383
>>738925553
Yes, I'm aware that each iteration retconned the source of the town's events:
>SH1 - demonic/satanic cult
>SH2 - vague power worshiped as "old gods"
>SH3 - Mesoamerican deities disguised as Christian-like figures
>SH4 - a corrupted Native American power
>SH:F - hallucinogenic gas
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>>738925225
>bite him and gouge his eyes out, its a genuine skill issue.
They don't recommend this because apparently the outcome is the women is significantly more likely to receive serious injury or death as a result. They're already lustmad. Do a little damage to them and they'll become blinded by rage and beat the ever living shit out them. Fact is almost all of the time a woman is not going to be capable of fighting off a determined man no matter how hard she tries. Not unless she has a deadly weapon.
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>>738925730
Hi, im the first guy you replied to. Sh2 is cool if you never saw Jacobs Ladder or Hellraiser. Also if the game wants to give me information, the devs should put it in the game.
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>>738925989
No she's not lol
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>>738925225
I'm not saying that fighting back is pointless, but on some circumstances (e.g knife to the throat) it's plainly impossible
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>>738926262
This. Rape advocacy groups strongly encourage women to "just let it happen", to allow their rapist to fill each and every one of their orifices with semen, which will not only sedate the rapist (who will eventually fall asleep) but provide valuable DNA that can be collected in a rape kit for prosecution.
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>>738925769
Being innocent and having no remorse is not the same thing you ESL retard.
There are murders who simply do not give a fuck.
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>>738926124
>vague power worshiped as "old gods"
Explicitly called out by Native Americans as some manner of evil force in the area.
Considering how simple it is to gel all the games together that took place in SH itself, this seems a needlessly combative argument.
Par for the course on 4chan, natch.
>>738926675
>straight up ESL reply
I knew this was a jeet thread, OP, due to the rehashed post and braindead responses. Thanks for proving it.
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>>738926757
Other than the typo explain what was ESL about it you stupid fuck.
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>>738926757
>Explicitly called out by Native Americans as some manner of evil force in the area.

Not in the game. The Native American part doesn't show up until SH4, and there in turn the Satanic part comes back, as well.
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>>738926285
>Sh2 is cool if you never saw Jacobs Ladder or Hellraiser.
I've seen you shitpost this crap multiple times in the past.
Unfortunate for you, I've seen both films and anything even remotely "might've inspired SH" already decades ago.

Does not make it any less impactful experience.

>Also if the game wants to give me information, the devs should put it in the game.
They did. But alas, some people, like (You) are incapable of searching for it and decoding it.
All the world's poetry and art are like pearls to pigs when given to Zoom Zooms.
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>>738925334
brat needs correction
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>>738923616
What happened to the father, then? He did the same while his wife watched
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>>738925212
lmao
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>>738927027
Okay bro, post screenshots explaining that they are not in hell or that the events are not occuring and instead are "mental projections". Im sure James fighting Angelas rape monster makes all the theories line up.
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>>738925942
tough but fair
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>>738923792
Leave is too much of a hallmark ending
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>>738926624
H-hot
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>>738925205
>It's not a "town summoning folks for a trial"
yeah i fucking hate this interpretation
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>>738927886
The SH2 website back in the day said that people were called to the town
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>>738927414
In Water does seem like they only appropriate ending although I think Stillness works as what a 'good' ending should be for James.
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>>738927214
>post screenshots explaining that they are not in hell or that the events are not occuring and instead are "mental projections"
You're literally trying to change topics again.

And for the millionth time, the mental projections ARE REAL. They alter the world around us, and make things physically happen.

>>738927991
Which one?
And either way, some folks literally tack on anything the game says and take it as face value. That stuff was only mentioned by Eddie.

I recall back in the day people thinking that Heather and Claudia were literal SISTERS, simply because that one line of dialog in SH3.
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>>738925730
Yeah right, cause Metatron and Samael are known Christian deities. In which chapter of Revelation did you read about a flauros, you stupid idiot?
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>>738923454
Silent hill is a personalized trauma limbo, you either figure your shit out a move on, or you get stuck in your own self inflicted hell.
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>>738928170
I see you mentally projecting yourself sucking my dick. Thank you for admitting defeat.
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>>738928280
>doesn't understand Gnosticism, or how fringe Christian cults have very, er, liberal interpretations of Scripture
See Mormons.
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>>738925989
Not everyone is gay and submissive like you anon, just because you would want to get diddled by your hairy 50 year old gym teacher does not mean everyone else wants that.
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>>738923454
Back in roman days women who were raped used to kill themselves out of shame (look up The Rape of Lucrece). The reasoning was that she was pure of mind but not of body, and going on living would bring shame not only on herself but her entire family.
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>>738923454
She could just have just made it consensual, it's literally her fault that it was rape.
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>>738925225
this post is retarded but it makes a point in a weird way, remember all the retards on social media claiming rape is worse than murder? if you genuinely believed being raped is worse than death you would do this every time, even if it means the rapist beats you to death afterwards
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>>738923454
Autistic headcanon here. I view it in a gnostic fashion. Angela is stuck in her personal hell because and her grief feeds the town/God. James is the same but manages to break the cycle, with the help of Laura (Sophia/wisdom), and move beyond. Angela however is too stuck in her trauma and remains trapped.
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>>738929543
and the women who were more likely to be that amenable to standards of chastity suicided their way into producing less children than the women who were happy to be whores. meaning the women we have today are the result of however many thousands of years of eugencis of the most vapid leg spreaders in the gene pool
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>>738925212
>leon shows up
hahaha
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IT'S ALMOST DONE
PC PORT WHEN BROS
AAAAAAAAAAH
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>>738925205
>>738925334
I think Eddie was actually seeing monsters and suffering aswell considering the first time you meet him he's puking in the toilet (from the guilt of using his gun on his bully and their dog). Additionally, he is shown to be rather depressed every time you meet him. Then again, he was casually eating pizza and not freaking out too much, suggesting that he doesn't feel THAT much guilt over his actions.
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>>738930531
Eddie always struck me as developing infantilism as he stayed longer in the town.
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>>738925730
>No, it does not. It has no will, no preferences, no agendas. It just exists, and has a natural force that brings out people's in-most desires and fears out into 3D world.
Oh hey, finally an Anon who knows what the fuck he's talking about.
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SH2 is great, but it's a shame it pigeon-holed the the series into always being some form of personal torture. In SH1 it's implied the otherworld is a recent manifestation of Alessa attempting to disrupt the cult, the monsters are sourced from her imagination of things that scared her, and it's all experienced by Harry, an innocent who has literally zero personal understanding of the symbolism. I wonder if the popularity of SH2's setup is indicative of modern narcissistic trends. "Of course what's going on has to be about me and make sense to me." Will we ever get another SH that just has fucked up shit thrust upon someone unjustly who just has to deal with it like Harry? Probably not.
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>>738931446
he was always like that, that's why he is portrayed as a big kid, mannerisms, dress, also the only person who can see Laura beside James.
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>>738927414
"Maria" is my favourite ending. It's an ominous second chance for James. Somewhat spoiled by the writer stating that Maria will live and stay healthy so long as she's sustained by James's love.
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>>738923454
What >>738923734 said and I wish more people understood that. Half of the decline the series went through was because hacks turned the town into demon Judge Judy when it was never about that. It's an evil place that does evil things to people who aren't necessarily evil.

Also while we're on the topic fuck people who hate on the cult storyline.
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>>738926124
>It was hallucinogenic gas that incites the supernatural to fester.
Man he really just wanted a HIgurashi crossover but couldn't use a loli like Rika for the 5 minute long fanservice bonus.
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>>738925242
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>>738926124
The source of SH's power was always some evil demon, it's just that everyone called it something different.
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>>738925242
Hi bro since you're reading the thread, Black Lives Matter and kill all wh*te men (the women and troons can stay as breedhogs).
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>>738923454
What are u talking about? When I played this game i just went around solving puzzles and killing monsters? There are no "deeper themes" in these games
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>>738932059
kys rugga
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>>738932064
The themes of Silent Hill are real, I saw them. They fly around the world on their magical sleight every Christmas night and bring presents to the good children
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>>738923454
she liked it
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>>738931446
He was getting worse and worse the longer he stayed in the town. There are boxes of ammo everywhere and pizza boxes just lying around, and his bully kept showing up and no one cared if he shot them. The town probably started actually feeling like paradise for Eddie, because he could just indulge in his guilty pleasures without any consequences.
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>>738928170
Anon, you're arguing with someone that wants to win the argument, not with someone who cares what the argument is about.
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>>738925242
based twitterchads dabbing on /v/cels
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She probably walked around in her little white panties I bet.
Who could resist such a sight
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>>738925730
hi nubzombie. you are fucking ugly & your bitchwife is fat
loop theory is canon now and there is nothing you can do about it ;)
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>>738925242
I fucking hate reply girls so much.
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>>738925242
based! our thread is famous bros!
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>>738930531
It's quite likely that Eddie was hit by Jimbo's fleshy, sickly beast visions when he got into the apartments. There's a lot of evidence of the main characters' "reality bubbles" overlapping in the game, but the player only sees them through the lens of James' eyes:

>Eddie is always found in kitchens or with food, with his bossfight even taking place in a big freezer. He's tormented by "bullies", that all take James' appearance, with a hidden face.
>Laura's always playing with toys or found in playing grounds. She literally question's James' schizo rambling about the town being dangerous.
>Angela's vision is made crystal clear with the Abstract Daddy + the whole burning stairs scene.
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Do you think Laura's dead? She was in the same hospital (or maybe even hospice) as Mary so her health must not have been the greatest, she also doesn't question the passage of time or how Mary could still be alive. James doesn't because he's in denial but why doesn't she? I guess maybe either Mary or her were transferred out of that hospital before Mary died, but I think it's very likely Laura predeceased Mary.
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I could survive Silent Hill. Raccoon City would be a gamble, though.
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only james was real, all the other characters are projection (from the town)
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>>738935683
Well duh, the Racoon City survival ratio is less than 1:10000
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>>738925242
This inbred faggot is getting literal dollars of elonbux off of you niggers.
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>>738935272
>Do you think Laura's dead?
No. She and all the characters sans Maria were confirmed to be real, alive and well.
She hitched a ride from Eddie: >>738925334
and is generally a literal brat.

>she also doesn't question the passage of time or how Mary could still be alive.
That's because she's the living proof that JAMES is a literal unreliable narrator, living in his own laa laa land.
Mary did not die "years ago", besides symbolically to James maybe. It's quite likely that he offed her just hours, days earlier maybe.

Laura also had no way of knowing that James had killed Mary. Double so if we are to believe that the note found in the hospital, which mentions the patient being allowed to go home "for the last time", is actually referring to Mary and not some random character.
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>>738923454
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>>738923454
>>738923616
>Christian allegory
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easy
she is a whore
and she enjoyed it , haven't you talked to any female in your life or what?
i haven't played sh2
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>>738928105
Isn't In Water the ending the creators choose first?
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>>738923454
Maybe she shouldn't have made it her entire personality. Fucking get on with it. Your dad touching you is bad but does that define you as a person? No! She went to hell because she was a whiny, depressing, fatty femcel and at least two of those aren't because of the rape.
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>>738926124
AFAIK the power comes from Samael, just like Satan, you only need a powerful Fallen Angel to create a hell on Earth. That's how powerful they are.

>but muh Samael is kill

You cannot kill a demon, only its physical manifestation. Samael is and always will be the power that corrupts Silent Hill.
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>>738923454
Didn't she kill the rapist, which is why she had to go hell?
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>>738937886
Because if you kill your enemies, they win and you become just like them.
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>>738937570
It's the devs and fans favorite, and the one that unironically fits the game's theme best.
"Stillness" is a new, gay as fuck invention the fence-sitting Polak covards came up with to satisfy the snowflake zoomies' needs.

>>738937886
She killed her entire family,
and no, this is not "hell". Silent Hill makes stuff from people's subconsciousness become reality, in our world. She's seeking for both revenge and end to her own suffering.
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>>738925242
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>>738928608
Mormons are as Christian as Muslims are. As in, not at all. Try again.
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>>738938014
>"Stillness" is a new, gay as fuck invention the fence-sitting Polak covards came up with to satisfy the snowflake zoomies' needs.
I'm not sure how you could think that when the Leave ending exists and was part of the OG release.
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stillness ending is often misunderstood: james wants to kill himself, but then he sees mary telling him she will wait for him. so in the end he gets forgiven and lives, only the car with mary goes into the water. I love this ending, james gets forgiven without the cringe daughterwife thing. based goober team
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>>738926013
You ate Mary, anyway!
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>>738938014
Imagine calling zoomers snowflakes when OGtroons pride themselves on their lives peaking in 2001.
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>>738931901
Couldn't agree more. The black and white thinking of morality really took the series into a nosedive.

Silent Hill never really was about making the player feel good, you were just trying to survive the confusing horrors you found yourself in and hopefully stay in tact by the end.
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>>738923454
You missed the entire point of how the town in Silent Hill works. It brings your inner demons to life.
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>>738925242
4chan really ought to just automatically splice in 'nigger' in every post for these guys. They won't catch them all and eventually they're gonna post it.
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>>738938770
Stillness is literally just a stupidass merge OF Leave and In Water. Made by lazy hacks who felt a need to leave their grimy finger prints on Team-Silent's games, by creating an indecisive 50-50 one without the emotional baggage of either one of them.

>>738939482
Literally all of mankind peaked around Y2K. It's been endless downhill since then, double so after 2007.
And of course the zoomer Piss5 homos praise the terrible cash-grab UE5 demakes like SH2R...
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>>738936189
>make inflammatory bait OP
>post it on xitter
>farm elonbux off of retards too scared to visit le big bad hax0r website
this is just the world we live in huh
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>>738940646
>Leave
>emotional baggage
It's hard to take you seriously when you're blatantly trying to avoid how bad of an ending Leave already is.
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>>738925212
No. Sometimes normal people will get dragged in, especially if there's some cult shit going on like in 1 and 3. SH2 only established that it'll prey on those with some sort of trauma when it's not being actively provoked.
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>>738940646
>confirms what is known about OGfags
Good to know.
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>>738940792
>>738940778
Shut up vatnig.
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>>738938269
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>>738925008
The town has a whole history of weird shit happening way before the cult showed up, dating back to even before European settlers started moving in.

It’s just a patch of land where the divide between the material and spiritual are thin, and for those who are particularly attuned to it can pull at the threads and manifest it in tangible form, and perhaps themselves be influenced and drawn in by it in turn.
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>>738923734

>Silent Hill doesn't punish the wicked, it's just where crazy fucks end up.

Not really. SH4 confirmed that Silent Hill is a normal tourist town with normal people living there. The only unusual thing about Silent Hill is the order cult that always worked in secret, and the Otherworld dimension that can be entered if you are either a person who has experienced a traumatic event or a cultist who knows how to enter portals. Otherworld feeds on the fears of traumatized people
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>>738923454
Its because women ask for it every time
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>>738923734
this. its truly insane that a game that has more video essays than the amount of coca cola bottles in the world, there are still retards out there with unironically massive media illiteracy that they still cant pick up on these obvious themes
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>>738935683
>I could survive Silent Hill.
not the cult one probably

desu i feel like a lot of anons who think they would survive the personal hell because they'd just go "it's not real lol" would die from getting stuck on a puzzle
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>>738926086
>PS: SH1 PC decomp soon!
didn't know that existed, would be fun to play once it releases
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>>738942318
>SH4 confirmed
noncanon
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>>738942318
noooo anon stop making sense and using arguments. it goes against the retarded headcanons of allmighty ME. a guy who only played SH2 back in 2001
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>>738925730
>What Westoids later coined as "cult" was nothing more than extremist CHRISTIAN church, that had adopted some local pagan ways ... because surprise surprise, that shit actually WORKS.
I was agreeing with everything you were saying until this part.
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>>738923454
She killed her brother and father, really should've killed herself. Used goods.
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>>738944826
the decomp isn't really for something playable unfortunately, it's just basically getting all the assets extracted but someone still needs to make something else to actually play it after.
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>>738940590
I don’t undernigger what you are niggering about?
Could you please elaboniggerate?
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>>738926086
I wish SH3 was better in terms of port, you need to disable the film grain everytime you boot up the game because settings don't save and if you have it enabled it can cause rooms to have 0% brightness randomly.
Also the FMV clips like the Laura one where she talks about Alessa resets the game volume to 100 which ear raped me twice
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>>738931640
The official Konami in house SH5 with 30 year old Heather returning to SH for some reason is gonna return to its roots
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>>738925242
>imagine being this big of a fag
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>>738925008
The God in SH2 is very much a Christian God. I don't know why Satan would specifically and only punish adultery and murder and give vague life lessons as part of the package.
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>>738923454
silent hill in the game despite what some people claim to shit on sh2 is not a therapist or a good entity. it attracts lost souls and seeks to consume them, have them succumb to their demons and stay their forever.
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>>738928170
They are literally, in the game, called by the town.
James receives a letter that isn't real that tells him to go back to the town.
Angela goes to the town because she believes her mother is there.
Eddie literally says he was called to the town, that while he was on the run it drew him in.
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>>738925205
laura doesnt see anything nigger
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>>738945469
that's actually a good niggeridea
i will do it more niggeroften
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>>738944481
Men would rather go to Silent Hill than therapy fr
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>>738931640
>I wonder if the popularity of SH2's setup is indicative of modern narcissistic trends.
you posing this question is order of magnitudes more narcissistic than anyone with a passing like of sh2.
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I had a public speaking class in college. We had to do embarrassing shit and give speeches in front of large groups of people. One guy in there was autistic to some degree and did a presentation on the music from Silent Hill 2, playing a few complete tracks during his speech, I think just to take up time and hit the time requirement, 15 or 20 minutes usually. But his music clips kept not working and I felt bad for him, he seemed like a cool dude.
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>>738946395
nocap deadass ong
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>>738946395
>therapy
I would rather exhaust myself by doing 6 day gym+some martial art shit than spilling my guts to some liberal woman.
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>>738925730
Nubzombie I love your videos and lore runs man.
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Silent Hill just has an inert eldritch power sleeping beneath it, which summons the crazies in and then SWALLOWS YOUR SOUL
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>>738923454
it's what happens when you are used goods, unwilling or not
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>>738923454
>hasn't had sex
>seethe in /v/ for it
It goes both ways, incel.
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Only SH1Chads are cool in my book
SH2fags are pretentious schizos
SH3fags are tranny schizos
SH4fags are autistic schizos
And no one really cares about other games except for that foreskin guy
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>>738923734
this, and also, the town also feeds on the fact that she killed. justified or not thats irrelevant for the power that resides in there: she feels guilty and IS guilty, providing double the suffering



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