>Indie devs can make doom clones and earthbound clones>But can't make Dues Exes, Fallouts or Half-lifes
>GAME>ALLEGORY FOR DEPRESSION OR SUICIDEYOU MEAN JEW NIGGER GLOWIES SUPPRESSING BASIC NORMALIOTY?
>cocksucking troon op making dogshit thread about the same thing again
>>738923697>16-bit game thats an allegory for abuse or depressionName 5.
>making sprites and text box dialogue is more attainable than hundreds of hours of voice work from dozens of paid voice actorswtf?!??!??
There's been a long list of indie "immersive sims" that came out and are getting made, try playing a indie game sometime.
>>738923697Why did this meme become such a big thing even though this is just Omori? Omori isn't even that big of a game.
>no the sims indie>no aoe2/sc2 indie??
>>738923697>indie devs can make clones of good games>indie devs cant make clones of bad gamesftfy
>>738923897none of the games have depression either, it just means "indie developer making faggot games teehee" on social media sites that ban slurs
peripeitia is a great deus ex clone
>>738923697Vladik Brutala Half Life clone made by a SINGLE dev, and its awesome, even better in VRhttps://youtu.be/LbdCObiukLo?si=ADKF9mT1cdlDo4i6
>>738923697>WOOOW ARE YOU TELLING ME ITS EASIER FOR A SOLO DEVELOPER TO WORK ON A 2D GAME THAN A 3D GAME THAT USUALLY REQUIRES A TEAM TO EVEN BE GOOD?Faggot OP...
>it's an RPGmaker game about suffering
>>738923697this just tells us all that you dont know jack shit about whats involved in game development.
>>738923697Based. Indies don't get called out enough for being an absolute slop factory most of the time
>>738923697It's not so much that as it is indie devs wanting to make a game with deep/mature themes while having the pixelshit style as their only realistic choice. This just makes them all look the same on the surface
>>738923945>no GTA 6 indie
>>738924017The people that make these memes are the ones mad a new Mario game doesn't come out every five months.
>>738923697AAA devs can't either
>>738923697Bitches be seething over rpgmakers, roguelikes, earthbound clones and all that shit but when I make a game worthy of a new genre I get 300 wishlists.
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>>738923697For the 900th time PLAYGOOD INDIE GAMES
>>738923697I'm making a game that's an allegory for having to live with niggers in what used to be a first world country, because jews are envious of God's children.
>>738923826OMORI LISA: The Painful Celeste OFF BraidHeartbound
>>738923975Your post confuses me given Half-Life is the best game ever made.
>>738924310WHEREARETHEY
>>738924072There are a billion PS1 style platformers and Fallout is 2D retard
>>738924685>not a single 16-bit game
>>738924685LISA and OFF arent about depressionHavent played the restYou lost
>>738924826Heartbound kinda is, but it's a retarded undertale clone that is a earthbound clone, and nothing in this line has actually GOOD 16bit graphics.
>>738924826>UH IT ISN'T TECHNICALLY ON A 16 BIT CONSOLE SO UHRetard
>>738923697>But can't make FalloutsIndies make games for faggots all the time
>>738924132cat posters deserve to be raped and burnt alive
>This is an early work by the author, a filler piece. There are two prequels. To better describe the plot and characters, I've used letters to refer to them, and it also includes some personal interpretations. In the first part, A and B are the protagonists. B is a sister-complex character. B gets a possession drug and lets A possess his sister and have sex with him. B spends the entire Children's Day having sex with his sister and various other activities, with no major plot. The second part continues from the first. A learns that B's sister died in a car accident and goes to the funeral home to visit. He sees B acting mentally unstable, talking to the corpse, etc., but chooses to keep it a secret for the sake of his friend's reputation. Soon after, B's family moves away. A is an orphan, and B is one of his few friends. After experiencing the death of someone he knows, A suffers from physical and mental illness and develops alcohol and cigarette addictions. Later, on the recommendation of a drinking buddy, A develops a strange hobby of seeking out prostitutes but not having sex often, preferring to chat instead. Years later, he returns to his small town and starts dating online, meeting a beautiful girl named C. After several dates, A and C begin to have feelings for each other. Under C's seduction, A, despite having some physical illnesses, rapes C, who is still a virgin. (This part should be retconned because in the first book, C's body had already been used by B in various ways and for sex.) Later, it was learned that C was B's deceased sister. B obtained a leather knife and used herself to fill in her sister's body, living on in her place for many years.
i have to give it to Undertale and Deltarune, as gay as they might be, there are not allegories for anything
>>738925464>GAME LITERALLY HAS IT WHERE YOU CAN JUST KILL THE "MONSTERS">ALLEGORY FOR NOTHINGKYS NORMIETHAT GAME IS CLEARLY GAYBAIT FOR RETARDED PUSSIES THAT HAVE NEVER HEARD OF "NOT KILLING SOMEONE"( LMFAO!) AKA NIGGERS AND LIBERALS
>>738924756try here, you might find something worth playinghttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/738122258/
>>738923697I'm glad 2D indieshit is phasing out, everyone is trying to make PSX styled early 3D games these days and it's mostly shit but I'm getting some decent low poly games out of it.
>>738924685Name 5 more!
>>738925464>killing is bad>rape is badthey do tho
>>738923697>indie devs can't make infamously high production value gamesThat's true.
>>738925086how would you rape a poster? roll it up and shove it up your ass?
>>738924736overrated linear quake clone with bad enemy design and unskippable cutscenes
>>738930226Fallout theoretically shouldn't be harder than Doom clone
>>738924132Lisa the Painful is just good, okay?
>>738924310There aren't that many. The west's indie scene in particular is going through a weird time where it's not even about the games themselves, it's more of a social thing that's about belong to an online indie community and getting people in your discord and stuff. Asian indies are kicking our ass right now.
>>738931639More like lisa the pinful to play. I fail to see anything good about it
>>738924132>it's an RPGmaker game with questionable character portraits
>>738930146>>738926392but that isn't an allegory, it's as much "in your face" as it can be
>>738926596I hate both memes equally. Why does everything have to be some gay nostalgia bait? In the first place, if you're going to claim to take care to "retro video game development style," then your "retro" indie game should be able to run on hardware from the era you're heartening to. But no, that's too much to ask for unoptimized unity sloppers.
>>738931675asian indies are sold in conventions and they network with other creatives, it is a social thing overseas as well
>>738931958god i wish america had that kind of culture, it's much easier when your country is the size of 2 floridas put together though i guessi want my indie games on actual drm free cds bought in person dammit
>>738923697making a half life by yourself is really really fucking hard, even if the gameplay is easy to implement that isnt the issueyou have to make 12 hours of fps content
>>738931675>There aren't that manyWHATThere's like 100 a weekTry Derelict star, it might be the best "pure" platformer I've played. It's a little bit of metroid brainia.
I loved OmoriI called my sister when I beat the game and I told her I love herShe thought I was going to off myself lmao
>>738923697Indies have made those games though. There’s just fewer of them because that’s more ambitious.
>>738923697Yeah and they don't make stealth games neither.eg. Splinter Cell, Thief.They piss me off with their lack of caring about anything niche when all of these faggots claim it's what they do and that they're the supposedly passionate ones over the greedy triple A industry. That they're better than the mainstream but in reality they're actually no different to them.I wonder if it's about team size limitations or i just got the raw end of the deal that the indie scene only took off when zoomers started making games and therefore all they give me is just complete shit.
>>738924685>Heartbound
>>738923697
>>738933381>Yeah and they don't make stealth games neitherIntravenous 1 and 2. Aragami 1 and 2 also.
>>738933604Fuck off Roman your game is shit.
>>738931835which is the purpose of an allegory
Out of the 100+ indie games I own I think the only one that's an "allegory for depression" is Celeste.
>>738931547Fallout was created by a team of 60 people in times when you could get money for farting in your sofa
>>738934027It’s mostly hyperbolic, but the sentiment comes from the fact that alot of indie games do the “seemingly cute and innocent on the surface, but secretly darker underneath” thing because they’re copying what Earthbound did. Combined with the fact that mental illness tends to be a common theme in these games, that’s where it comes from. The more accurate way to say it is that every indie dev and their mother wants to make the next Earthbound so badly to the point that other ideas don’t get explored as much.
>>738934027"game about depression" is just a dogwhistle for "indie game made by faggits"
>>738924132>it's an RPGmaker game about fat asses and pear bodies
>>738934764I do personally find it weird how some of the best RPGMaker games end up being amateur porn game. Like, not even just from an erotic standpoint, but from a gameplay standpoint too.
>>738934764name as many as possible please
>>738934953When do indie devs reinvent the wheel? Most of the time, they just copy other games. Half of indie games nowadays are either “it’s like Earthbound but-“ or “it’s like Dark Souls but-“.
>>738924685Omori isn't about depression
>>738934764I MUST have the sauce!!!!
>>738934764I have no fucking idea when this happened, but apparently it's on Steam.https://store.steampowered.com/app/3523690/Ai__the_Demon__the_Curse_of_Lust/The steam release should be gutted as usual and restorable to a game with a patch.Be warned, Ai's scenes have a copious focus on spanking so if that's a turn off for you steer clear.https://litter.catbox.moe/2yy1tv.png
>>738931958That sounds awesome
>>738923697What if it's about schizophrenic paranoia and disconnection from other people told through the lens of a dark lord overthrowing an anti-demon conspiracy
>>738931675Right now the western scene is at a point where hangaround girls with no coding or development skills call scene guys focused on actually making games names like "autist" and "weirdo". Very much in the social butterflies and dudebros phase of a scene's cycle of rebirth.
>>738933604Agreed. Intravenous is especially pretty good and has a dynamic lighting system on par with or even greater than Splinter Cell Chaos Theory.
>>738923697>An AAA developer making an open world game that's an allegory for gnosticism
>>738923887Either don't have voice acting or use AI
>>738923697Illegal aliens/minorities/fags/troons as villiansunderage love storiesrapeStipper scenesmocking islama heroic racist
>>738923897Wasn't this a meme by the late 2000s or something?I remember Yahtzee saying it
>>738934953Why did Stein watermark something made of images he doesn't own?
>>738923697>Dues Exes>Fallouts>Half-lifesall way too complex for solo devs. Half life is the simplest systems-wise, but a linear story game needs a ton of content and bespoke setpieces that would take way too much time for solo or small teams to make.Indies make simplistic games and roguelikes because they can get by with less assets (and reuse them more). And even still it takes them years to make these games.
>>738936362The fact that you don't believe in punishment for going loud is proof you don't understand the stealth genre. Period.You likely paid Seth to shill your trash. Not a single person who played your game likes Splinter Cell. So stop referring to it as SC because you known damn well it's not.
>>738931675What are some recent good Asian indie games?
These indie devs are real obnoxious cunts.Reminds me of those retards on twitter that comment on /v/ screenshot posts when anons correctly point out indie devs never made Deus Ex's and only boring pixelshit then you have all those faggot /r/immersivesim reddit mods saying UMMM YOU MISSED THIS SHITTY GAME clearly ur not paying attention!
>>738923697It's simple really, a general purpose game engine makes it easier and faster to make a Doom clone, platformer or movement game. This is because these kinds of games rely on mostly isolated systems that are already packaged with the engine you're using.You don't have to write your own questing, stealth or dialogue systems to then build content upon, you simply use what exists within the engine.There's also a competency filter.The incompetent will get filtered by not knowing how to design systems that work together and so their projects simply fail and get abandoned. And the competent know how making the content for the game is the real challenge and will take far too long that they don't make one.The only time you'll see these kinds of projects taken by indie devs is by people that are beyond passionate. The developers that are willing to autistically stick with something knowing that it'll take forever simply because they like it.
>>738938695>went from 2d pixel art to xbox 360 level 3d and completed a trilogy in the span of 5 years, soloThe Spark dev should be an inspiration to indies everywhere
>>738924756Deadbolt CairnMars first logistics Chants of Senaar White knuckle Theif simulator FuriHalf sword demoMindustry Road to vostok Scriptorium Brigador>>738931675You are a retard who lives in a bubble on xitterWesterner makes good indie stuff all the time
>>738923697>Deus ex. FalloutMaking any kind of system heavy game is a nightmare I was trying to make small text based rpg that used small LLM for flavour text and dialogue And it's unreal amount of work to make everything work well
>>738940362A Space for the UnboundBeautiful game. It feels honest and authentic.
>>738941180Wasting your time, they're not looking for good games, they just want to whinge in an echo champer
