What are your thoughts on using AI art in video games? I think this could be great for reducing the cost to produce games, which would let more be created. Pic related is an AI-generated image of a Monet painting for example. It's not entirely at the level of the real deal, but it's like 90% there. And let's be honest, most people wouldn't actually be able to tell the difference. They wouldn't care if they saw this hanging on a castle wall in a video game or whatever.
>>738925682Yes people don't careI hope all your favourite franchise come back but made with ai generated artI would love to live in a world where ai produce 90% of all entertainment while we consume them all day everyday
>>738926112I can't tell if you're sarcastic or not, but as long as the AI art is as high quality as human art then I don't see what the problem would be.
>>738925682You shouldn't just prompt art assets for a game.If you use something like finishing a pattern so it tiles appropriately for grass or ground textures, sure, that's fine, as it's doing finishing touches to make it coherent, but trying to txt2img your way to having assets for a game, you're just going to make slop.I think it's OK for a developer/writer to prompt some images to show artists what you want or your general ideas or visions, BUT you need your own contribution and effort to show you're pulling your own weight in your own field, and not just an "Idea guy" with no actual talent or eye for talent. t. Good at writing, good at coding, bad at art, have prompted images to give others an idea, but have commissioned artists to get the particulars right according to the vision in my head and what the writing builds it up to be.
>>738925682>Pic related is an AI-generated image of a Monet painting for examplehooooo, fuck you, no falling for that one
>>738926307Sorry for double posting, just want to add,I'm not defending artists or saying AI isn't "Better" than most of them, however, having extensively used txt2img (And in fact am prompting RIGHT NOW), txt2img just won't cut it for any serious artistic vision's final product. I do think it has a place for pitching ideas, but, it shouldn't hit the final product.
>>738926489But AI really is as good as most human artists. How many people would be able to tell that the pic in the OP is AI-generated without someone mentioning it beforehand? I bet 99% of people would be fooled or simply wouldn't care.
i don't mind AI when it's used as a tool and not as the carpenteri've seen shit put on steam or comics put on websites made entirely by AI, that's obviously not the fucking point
>>738925682I was that twitter thread
I would only be okay with AI art and textures in a mod or a very ambitious indie game.
>>738926307Why is prompting art wholesale from AI bad?
>>738925682There is no place for AI assets in commercial video games. You expect people to give away their hard earned real money for stuff you just stole from internet?
>>738926609Are you asking in regards to like, a framed painting on a wall, or as core art assets to be used for character portraits, textures, etc?For small things like in game paintings on a wall in a hall in a single castle, 99% of the time it's easier to just grab free use assets and stuff that have outlived their copyright. Faster, easier. I personally would want the paintings to be more personal to the game, rather than just noise to fill a wall. For assets like textures, don't txt2img the whole thing, it'll be inconsistent, learn photoshop and take 25 minutes hand making a decent texture and use an ai tool to make some small finishing touches, this sort of "AI" usage has existed for 15 years. For character portraits, I make characters for TTRPGs and it works fine for that purpose (As the meat is in the character writing and playing) and while it has impressively improved over the years, it is still lacking in the very fine particulars, and consistency is still an issue without a lora/dora trained on a character hand drawn 40+ times, so wanting consistency with an OC requires hand made OC 40+ times to begin with. Pic related is a character I first made in Skyrim and then ran through img2img to see if it could pick up on the "Particulars", and it certainly did better on the clothes than the txt2img ever could, but it's still jank enough. (The writing is because of the menu in the screenshot being misinterpreted as a text box)So, for any serious work, you want to hand make at least 80% of it. If you get to a point where you're arguing over adding noise to your game, just don't add noise, reduce the project as a whole.
/v/ is fully downstream of twitter these days
>>738925682>reducing the cost to produce gamesArt assets aren't why modern games have bloated budgets and absurd dev cycles.
>>738927324YeahThis entire thread including op is just snarky Twitter lesbians and trannies crying about their sacred institution
>>738925682>great for reducing the cost to produce gamesSurely this also means that price goes down, right?
>>738927301AI is good enough at practically any sort of 2D art that it could pass as human. I see no reason not to just use AI for practically every piece of 2D art nowadays, unless there's a very specific vision that AI is having trouble with. 3D art on the other hand isn't ready yet from what I've seen, although I haven't played with it much so I can't say for absolute certain. This will probably change over the next 5-10 years though
>>738925682Why would it lower the costs? Why would I even pay for genslop? At this point I just spend less on new games. AI has ruined modern games for me.
>>738925682>Pic related is an AI-generated image of a Monet painting for exampleno it isn't, we all saw the xitter thread, fag
>>738927465Lead a reddit swine (((you))) to slop and he will consume it.
>>738927419It is though. Artwork is like 70% of the cost of creation when it comes to AAA games. Programming is like 10% (this is back in 2020 before AI programming was a thing, now it's probably even lower).
>>738925682This is a real painting you fucking retard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Batch_Mattes_20130310_NP_(13).JPG
>>738927867The only thing I'm getting from this is that I should never pay for a game ever again because they have 0 real value in 2026
>>738927867>Artwork is like 70% of the cost of creation when it comes to AAA games
>>738927669Do you actually prompt with something like Stable Diffusion?I do. It's not a substitute for human work, and as you can see in your two pictures, it's inconsistent. How many orange marks are on the character's chest? One on each breast? Or two?Even with simple designs it'll lack consistency, and the examples your showing, have immense lack of care even with prompting.And especially for what you posted, it is not much to get a bunch of small drawings for your game, especially if you hire a SEAmonkey. Pic related is "Simple" without much to ask for it and it's a nightmare to consistently prompt. You're not even giving good examples unless you're being facetious in which, good job with your examples of why txt2img doesn't workPrompting guns is very fun because it gives /k/ nerds aneurysms
>>738926863>>738927669>>738927867why do aifags always, without fail, start posting their slop gens as if they proved their point instead of just making it more obvious why that shit is cancer?
>>738927482The *nominal* price won't go down, but people who care about that are retards. The real (i.e. inflation-adjusted) price slowly goes down over time if the nominal price is fixed. If games became cheaper it would mean1) The nominal price would stay at the same level for a bit longer, so the real price would get a bit lower.AND2) Indies or AAA studios would pocket some of the extra profit and turn some of it around to making new games, giving a greater variety to choose from.
>>738927867Since they're saving 70% of the cost by using slop we're getting 70% cheaper games, right?
>>738928158To prove a point that AI art is just as good as most human art, and that people who say otherwise are trannies triggered by the thought of a machine doing what they do.
>>738926220brown retard. it's not about the "quality", you can't even determine that, without understanding and practising the craft yourself.it's about experiencing another human being's expression. their soul.some people have those, believe it or not.>>738925682if a person can't be bothered to make it, I can't be bothered to look at it.
>>738928338"just aa good"explain why and how, would love to see you expose yourself and totally missing the point of visual art.are you one of those fags that never managed to get disciplined enough to learn anything and got resentful that other people aren't losers?
All this discourse is so silly when you actually try ai and realize it's even worse then the haters say it is
>>738928338You do realize you won't have a job soon to buy this slop with right?
>>738928338You're posting stuff your average pixiv prompt jockey would consider low quality. There's tools in stuff like stable diffusion for controlnet and inpainting to touch up errors and you're posting stuff with inconsistencies that could be touched up in 5 minutes even with AI. If someone can't spend 5 minutes to fix a txt2img error, it's simply not a high quality product. The biggest problem with AI is that it lowers the barrier to entry and "Idea guys" think they're good and join the ranks of people with talent, but "Idea guys" don't actually want to learn anything, including prompting, and so when you compare some pixiv prompter who actually uses all the knobs and levers offered by Stable Diffusion or Novel AI they utterly blow prompt jockeys out of the water and actually border on difficult to tell from humans. "Idea guys" aren't good at anything, or they'd actually discipline themselves to learn something in order to make good on it.I like playing with AI. But low quality AI and AI thumbnails make me actively avoid content because if a person can't bother spending 20 minutes on cleaning up a prompt with inpainting or controlnet, It's not worth my limited time.
>>738928383No one is thinking about the artist's "soul" when jerking their dingdongs to a 8 ft tall bimbo smelly orc futanari with massive tits and a 15 inch cock, little blud
>>738928858If I'm gonna jork to AI I'm only gonna jork to stuff made by people that know what these tabs do.
Art is geometryTXT to image gen is probability They're different methodologies and how they work impact in the final product heavily.
>>738925682If a game has AI I immediately lose all interest in it.You can say oh it's just to do simple tasks or conceptual shit or whatever and ok that's need and all but I really just don't care.Life's short, there are a shitload of great games I want to play, and I'm not going to waste time on slop, simple as.
>>738928383>their soulStatements like these are retarded.
>>738929079You're wasting your time browsing 4chan 12 hours a day
I feel sorry for AIfags. Can't imagine living a 2 digit IQ life.
>>738928796You're only saying the images I'm posting are "low quality" because you're primed to cherrypick any errors due to the discussion in the thread. In reality if people saw these sorts of images in a game nobody would be able to tell the difference between AI or human-created ones.
>>738927879https://nitter.poast.org/SHL0MS/status/2054280631807316329
people virtue signaling over AI like this >>738929079 is crazy to me lmao30 years ago this shitbrain would be protesting image editing on a desktop because it's not a guy holding a pen anymore
>>738929354That genuinely looks like MSPaint quality.And again, if they can't bother to use inpaint, why should I value it? I'm not even prompting for money and I take more care to try and make things consistent than these guys selling it for money.
>>738925682>AI in your product?not buying
>>738929514>That genuinely looks like MSPaint quality.https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/disingenuous
If you are a digital artist and not using AI then you are retard
>>738925682>I think this could be great for reducing the cost to produce games, which would let more be created.This is not a good thing you corporate shill.However I am ok with AI art in games.
>>738929623Come on man. You should at least know the tools.
>>738925682>I think this could be great for reducing the cost to produce games, which would let more be created.>The huge benefit that AI will bring to gaming is... more slopWell now I'm fully on board
>>738929723i'm not retarded enough to use w11, sorry poopguy
>>738929079I'm sorry you got one-shot by leftist tranny propaganda into thinking 2D drawings aren't legitimate if they weren't created by a they/them
>>738925682Just like CGI, they don’t care as long as it looks good. It’s the level of effort you put into it. If you don’t give a shit that the asset looks AI generated, then of course the user is going to feel some kind of way about it. But it’s less about the asset, and more about the fact that the developer didn’t give a shit to actually make their game look good. It shows a lack of attention to detail, or at worst they just don’t care about the product they want you to pay them for.
>>738929079You made trannies seethe. Based god.
>>738929514>That genuinely looks like MSPaint quality.I am 100% certain that it looks as good as what a human could draw. I am 100% certain that if a player saw this in a game, they would not bat an eye unless someone specifically said "this is AI generated", priming them to dislike it for unrelated reasons.
>>738925682>most peopleExactly. I use ai everywhere and fine tune it with professionals. I want top quality for little money. Only via ai I can release a game. I will sell it cheap, too. Fuck 100 dollars games.
>>738926112We are already devoid of art as art is produced on an industrial scale. Movies, games, everything is done to optimize profit.
>>738930065retard
>>738929420https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Batch_Mattes_20130310_NP_(13).JPG
If it's either done well or touched up with other shit, I do not care. If it's completely and obviously AI sloppa, then I would immediately ask for a refund and pirate the game. 95% of all local restaurants in my town us AI to create digital flyers and they all look identical and like shit.
>>738930350this is happening here too even out in buttfuck nowhere tennessee lolthey're all using outdated bullshit from 2023 so it all has that disgusting 'fake ghibli' look to itone fucking retard even made it his entire store motto
>>738929635Fully agreed. Nobody cares what tool was used to create the art. And if you can make something that looks this good in mere seconds, then why would you try to do it by hand?
>>738930481This looks like shit doe. But I guess AIjeets don't have taste.
>>738930627slay the spire isn't exactly famous for its beautiful art style
>>738928537Visual art has formal qualities like composition, colors, anatomy, lighting, etc. Visual art also has contextual meaning like the artist's backstory, when it was created, the intent, etc. AI can do the former at 99% of the level of expert humans, while the latter is mostly a human-only affair. But most people (besides artfags who were always obsessive about it) only say the latter is important as a cope for why they like human-created art over AI created art.
>>738930447You know the owner thinks this looks incredible too.
>>738930481>And if you can make something that looks this good...By "this good" do you mean like cheap clip-art? Or do you think that's actually good art?
>>738928760>>738928796>>738929514>>738930627>>738931415OK, I guess I've had my fun with this thread so I'll spill the beans now: I was posting human art that's in an actual video game (Slay the Spire 2) that nobody has any problems with.
>>738931472For reference:https://sts2.untapped.gg/en/cards/abrasivehttps://sts2.untapped.gg/en/cards/secret-techniquehttps://sts2.untapped.gg/en/cards/squash
>>738925682>Pic related is an AI-generated image of a Monet painting for exampleLooks like absolute trash. The fact that you're comparing this to a real Monet is an embarrassment. You have utterly soulless "taste" if you think this even remotely resembles Monet.This is the thing I can't stand about AI dickriders: they have literally 0 understanding about art but wrongly assume everyone else is as ignorant as they are.
>>738931472Also, the pic in the OP is just a real Monet that people claimed was completely terrible when someone claimed they "made it with AI". It's good to know that 4chan is just as gullible as Twitter trannies.
>>738931615you are so retarded lmaoanti-AI shitbrains are all the same brand of virtuous cattlethat's a real painting btw, you're just a programmed contrarian
>>738931472>nobody has any problems with.Except that a lot of people have said that Slay The Spire 2 art looks like shit, so if it's trash people will call it trash regardless
>>738931615->>>738931738Sulman Mirza is that you?
>>738931938I've heard precisely zero people complain about Slay the Spire 2's art. And I've *definitely* never heard them use the type of polemical language that gets thrown around with what people think is "AI art", i.e. the comments that are like "OMG this is the WORST THING I HAVE EVER LAID EYES ON, it's SO BAD that my EYES ARE BLEEDING FUCKKKKKKKKKKK AI!!!!!!!"
>>738925682>>What are your thoughts on using AI art in video games?>have a tight budget because amateur indie>Artfags always cry about not enough work>offer work to artfag>"hum sorry, that will be 6 gorillons shekels per minute">"also I will only deliver when and if I feel like it">"also I will only allow two corrections per piece">"also I might dump your entire project on a whim without finishing the set">offer work to AI>free (yay for local)>instant-ish delivery>redo as much as you want>fully loyal and reliableI don't *want* to use AI, but artfags are making it really, really fucking hard to even consider using them over the funny piece of silicon.
>>738931738>this somehow means AI = good
>>738931803>>738932078Doesn't disprove anything I said. AI "art" is soulless and lacks nuance and composition past the very surface level "aesthetics". It's made to be glanced at and forgotten. You'll never gaze at an AI "art piece" for hours pondering the emotions and thoughts of the artist who put his life essence into it.
>>738928383Every form of self expression is an expression of the "soul" of the individual. Even AI prompted stuff is, because it wouldn't exist without that specific person inputting that specific prompt which they themselves came up with, with the intent to express something they wanted to express.The argument that only things that have taken X amount of effort or are produced using method Y are valid forms of self expression is utterly idiotic and exists only to soothe the egos of those who have practiced a craft and now feel attacked when there is a tool that allows any pleb to create decent visual art.
>>738925682100% up for it. We need to accelerate and make games cheaper to make. Vibe code them, vibe design them, vibe art them, vibe test them.We need leaner teams, with faster iterations, that can quickly test and refine ideas.
>>738925682>Pic related is an AI-generated image of a Monet paintingUh huh.Monet is iconic as fuck, you can't just pretend. I've seen this one personally even
>>738926609Most human artists suck dick but sucking dick at art is the first step to getting good. We're gonna have no more masters if lower tier artists are eliminated
>>738932283No it means AI detractors on "artistic" merit are absolute moronic, pretentious buffoons.
>>738932283It shows that people who claim AI is bad cannot even actually pinpoint when something is or isn't AI. Which is something you'd think they could do if AI is bad, no?
>>738932275>also I will only allow two corrections per pieceNever accept this ever
>>738925682For background props, terrain textures, things which would quite often use stock assets anyway and have done since the beginning of 3D? Go for it. I don't want AI anywhere near the design or concept stage though, or on anything which is intended to catch my eye and infer artistic intent. Characters, their textures, weapons, set pieces, 2D backdrops, need to be hand made. A bunch of flowers and grass that litter the environment can be textured by AI for all I care, but if a character plucks a blade of grass and looks at it in a cut scene, that texture needs to be hand made as well.
Playing games and shit like paintings and wallpapers are just generic copy-pasted shit they've licensed. Read manga and the background art is just real landscape photos that at best has been rotoscoped. Yet I'm meant to somehow think AI shit is somehow going to make it any worse because some fartist or photographer is not getting paid free shekels for work xhey did a decade ago.
>>738925682I have seen the tweet OP. Anyway I am pro-AI in video games. Forget speeding up game development, with AI devs will be able to do thing they couldn't do before. Obviously all of this relies on the quality of the end product, but it's very promising especially given how rapidly things are advancing.
I do not give a fuck if AI art is literally ""perfect"" I simply don't care about it. The problem isn't in how it looks but how it's made.I enjoy art for the story it tells. Not just the finished product but the small details, the decisions, the mistakes and the life that lead up to whatever that person produces. Not only that but I enjoy making art, and seeing what other people can make inspires me to try new things. Leaving that shit to AI is like getting a robot to fuck your wife instead of you.
>>738925682The more insidious thing is all of them using it for "concept" art. No new concepts are being made it's literally just random slop. E33 is a pretty good example. Visually incoherent clumsily slapped together world compared to something like ebin ring with a coherent vision with a human behind it.
AI art tends to have a "look" no matter how you try to dress it up. It's also basically seen as low effort and lazy, even more so than using store assets.
>>738932471As someone from the music production world, you absolutely don't want this. Now every purchase with audio software is a total gamble if it will work or if it's vibed together and will corrupt your project files. People don't use it to rapidly iterate on one thing, they use it to spam the lowest hanging fruit dogshit. Even updates for old shit are getting more and more fucked up/unstable because of it.
>>738934071This. I could tell OP's pic was AI immediately without even clicking the thumbnail. It's that "look" that's hard to describe, like a child's first painting.
>>738934071Ai is awesome at pixel art
Give me best prompts for anime game art please
>>738925682hilarious
>>738925682its lazy and gay and I hate it ai art should be used only for storyboarding, conceptual rough drafts, never a final print of anything.what do we expect when nonartists attempt to make art? slop.
>>738925682Having a consistent and coherent tends to be pretty important, when it comes to art and UI especially. If the AI gen'd stuff doesn't end up in the actual game, or if someone has been able to tweak and add details, keep things consistent, then I'm less likely to kick up a fuss. But it also makes me care less about getting your game, or even pirating it. Why spend money on it when the dev didn't make half the game in the first place?For textures and decals we have fuck loads of stock images that have been built up for years. Hell, even going outside,, you can find interesting tiles or colour sets and buildings that you might want to incorporate somehow.
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>>738934796>AI faggot is also a monkey faggot
>>738934796See>>738927879
>>738925682>Pic related is an AI-generated image of a Monet paintingThis is terrible, even for AI. The fact that you can't immediately see numerous problems with the composition is hilarious.
>>738934926Are you retarded? That's the point. Thousands of seething retards were criticizing real art because they thought it was AI. They got played.
>>738934932>easily predictable twist already posted multiple times in the thread>ludditard still get caughtDamn, anti-AI really are dumb as fuck niggers.
>>738932283It proves AI isn't bad and that your idea of that is illogical, dogmatic, and biased. There's no foundation to your claims, you only have your objectively retarded opinions.
the day I dont notice and suspect it of being AI art is the day I am okay with it.
>>738925682>Pic related is an AI-generated image of a Monet painting for examplei, too, saw that image of the twitter screencap
>>738935180Maybe it just means Monet is bad when it doesn't have his name attached to the artwork. Remember when some guys pretended to be Banksy and got this rubbish banana painting lauded because "experts" thought it was the famous guy's art?
>>738935239You're admitting that you're just fighting with yourself like a schizo.>AHHH ITS AI >AI BAD>THAT MEAN I MUST NOT LIKE ITRegular people will look at something and decide whether it's good regardless of how it's made, and are already enjoying the nice things.Meanwhile you're just immediately mad because you can tell it's AI, so autistic.
>>738935297It just means people are fucking retards. This isn't the first time this has happened.>Remember when some guys pretended to be Banksy and got this rubbish banana painting lauded because "experts" thought it was the famous guy's art?This is another good example of people being retards, what's your point?
>>738935404My point is that the whole thing about them being specifically retarded about AI is moot. You could tell them it was painted by some rapist in prison and you'd get varying degrees of "it's shit" to "it's beautifully representing his struggle".It just means that trust in anything on the internet is rotting away entirely. If anything can be created picture perfect then why invest any time and effort into anything yourself?
>>738935340Nta but no, if I noticed it's AI it's because it looks like shit. I don't like looking at shit and AI slop looks like shit. It is that simple
>>738931615Kek. Please stop embarrassing yourself. Fucking dimwit Luddites.
>>738925682Rather not. Only benefit I can see from this is low cost and speed. If people can make it i don't see the point of changing that. It feels like AI guys are always about money and profit, it's new crypto/nft for them.
>>738935608Is your IQ really so low you can't understand that all this is related? These people are not being objective, that's the point. They're literally blind and let their biases dictate their realities. They are unthinking NPCs living by their programming.>rapist bad, that mean his art bad>AI bad, that mean AI art badThe fact you're trying to make a distinction here proves that you yourself are subject to the exact same idiocy. AI is not bad, your bias is just controlling your cognition. >>738935631The majority of drawn art looks worse, do you hate human art too?
>>738935815>The majority of drawn art looks worse, do you hate human art too?Show example lol
>>738935815>unlike me, a high IQ individual that could never break into art despite the wealth of resources and tutorials publicly available until my magic art genie sudden;y appeared!
>>738928383>understanding and practising the craft yourself.>it's about experiencing another human being's expression. their soul.>some people have those, believe it or not.>if a person can't be bothered to make it, I can't be bothered to look at it.Degenerate artist detected. Art is about creating beauty and Ai does this infinitely better than you degenerates. Your banana on a wall will never be real art.
>>738935937draw this in 5 minutes>>738935986>seething ad hominem you're mad
>>738935815>The majority of drawn art looks worse, do you hate human art too?If it looks like shit it looks like shit but human art on average doesn't look like a melting over-saturated sludge and artists aren't spammed 200 variations of the same shitty drawing
>>738935815I personally don't care that it looks bad or good. What I care about is that it's fucking sad that we have subset of mongoloids insisting on using AI to generate every creative thing and then insisting that they get on-up on everyone by pretending that AI is inherently better than whatever humans have made.Why would I want to spend money on a commission when I don't know whether the artist is actually spending their own time and effort on something that they created? Why read a novel someone didn't write themselves? It's sad that we're outsourcing something fundamentally human to programs that just regurgitate data its fed.
>>738936139Yeah it looks even worse.>>738936147You are an unthinking programmed NPC. You don't matter.
Good morning sirs
>>738935027Your mother is a whore and your father a pig.kill yourself rajeet
>>738936512>getting this mad
>>738928383I don't want to hear shit about soul nor expression or any of that pretentious bullshit. Not when Duchamp can slap a signature on a random upended urinal and get hailed as one of the most important "artists" of the 20th century.
>>738925682>cost reductiontalking about it like this makes me think you are a falseflagger. If you have the ability to make art, do it. If you have to hire somebody because you have so little experience with art, then sure you can use AI. Blender tutorials are everywhere, anyone can pick up a pencil or find a drawing program, but if the AI output looks good, I wouldn't question it
>>738930298>>738934926So you are dumbest anon in this thread
Yes we support aiWe want to live in a pod and consume ai generated video games 24/7
>>738936512>SAAR YOUR BLOODY MOTHER IS WHORE AND YOUR FATHER IS BASTARD BITCH SAARkwab
>>738936214Hobbyless behaviour. Unironically go pick up a paintbrush sometime and try your hand and landscapes yourself.
>>738935027>AIjeets had to falseflag that threadlmao
>>738939182I have hobbies.
>>738939309Going to post an AI generated image of a hobby you think is acceptable, anon?
>>738925682I haven't seen a slopper that wasn't also lazy. I've seen gens that don't look bad so I know it's possible to make something that looks good in the moment. The issue is that AI will always be an approximate, it requires further work after a gen to make something intentioned, purposeful.Sloppers give themselves the reputation they deserve.
People really will just think a picture is AI if you just tell them point blank, huh?
>>738926609It fooled me. It looks fine to me. If I saw this painting hanging on a wall in a random game I would think non the wiser.
>>738925682Good morning sir.
>develop a style>make a lora based on a style>use AI to speed up the sketch-to-final process by a couple of orders of magnitude>can still touch up and fix up the final or adjust it as neededTo an artist that has to deal with volume, like illustrations, comic books, sprites, concept art or assets, this is extremely helpful.
>>738939930By the sheer fact you made the style yourself and are still tweaking and touching up the final product, that's still head and shoulders above most other slop artists.
>>738940656That means you'll pay for the art they made right?
>>738940836Always try before you buy
Yaaaawn. Yet another thread where AIjeets don't understand creativity or art and just want to jerk each other off in a discord off-topic thread.>I think this could be great for reducing the cost to produce gamesToo bad, the game prices will keep rising. Idiot.
>>738936015>Degenerate artist detected. Art is about creating beauty and Ai does this infinitely better than you degenerates.So sad that you replaced religion with machine worship, pajeet.
>>738941039How much longer until you have another meltdown?
>>738941274But meltdowns are an AIjeet thing.Btw I'm heavily amused by how AI pajeets shit themselves in anger over le artists but ALSO want to be seen as "real artists" who make "beautiful art".
>>738941372>But meltdowns are an AIjeet thing.I've only seen the opposite though? Or are the people that regularly have meltdowns because a game used an AI-generated placeholder all falseflagging?
>>738941372I think they just want to make big titty anime girls
>>738940836I will pay artists for their art the exact same amount they paid for my game.
>>738941531But you lost the game anon.
>>738941123It is always wild to me that they always go straight for the>but it's more beautifull!! that means it's betterwhen half the reason why a piece is appreciated is the history surrounding it, the mediums it uses, and the intent behind it.Van Gogh's paintings are beautiful regardless, but the history between himself and his brother makes the Almond Blossoms painting more poignant.
>>738928383I though people like this were just a strawman but it seems like they genuinely exist. Grim.
>>738941372I dunno even crappy human made edits I see on twitter have anti ai fags going "No amount of generative AI could forge something like this."You guys can't stop thinking about AI like a /v/ user can't thinking about trans cock.
>>738941594Guess that explain why they lose money, then.
>>738925682Holy fuck you jeets are obnoxious. That AI slop is an insult to a master like Monet. I can't even tell what it's supposed to be? is it green pea puke or is it a pond with green fire? like wtf
>>738943131>another luddite nigger get fooledlmao
>>738944218but enough about you
>>738926307why notit's just a tool
>>738925682I personally won’t buy a game with ai art because instinctually I relate ai with scams.
>>738929079TRVKE
>>738925682In theory, people would use it like you. In practice, it will be used to make money from scams or fake pitches that use generates fake ingame screenshots and footage. So it is not good at all. A lot of ai generated garbo floods the nintendo, play store, and steam store daily and it is not fun to search for gems on there anymore because of how misleading they are.
>Pic related is an AI-generated image of a Monet painting for example.I saw the tweet already you nigger. just post the children's sanic drawing if you want to bait
i don’t want more video gamethere’s more than i can fucking play in a lifetime alreadyi want good video game and taking shortcuts means there’s just more fucking shit out therefuck AI in video games
>>738925682>reducing the cost to produce games
>>738926863>>738928158>>738928158The real issue is that you were too lazy to fix the character design inconsistencies.
>>738946407Character design inconsistencies are soulful though. That implies human error.
i don't see a problem with AI as long as it looks good. it's just a another tool in an artist's belt. everyone is such a tranny about this issue it's insane.
>>738925682if I can't tell then I don't care. It's not good enough for that yet though. If you use AI and clean it up so I can't tell then it's fine.
>>738926489Text2image is just an entry level prompt. You need to use comfy AI and more advanced workflows, then inpaint it, photoshop it as needed if AI struggles or you want specific detail, and inpaint again. Best results come from training your own model for your OCs.https://www.digitalcreativeai.net/en/post/original-character-lora-sd15-character-training
I would prefer games do not use AI art. Not because I care, I don't. But because if a game includes AI art a bunch of trannies will screech about the game shitting out a bunch of "AI SLOP! PICK UP A PENCIL!" and shitting their pants comments and completely destroy any discourse there is to be had about the game.
>>738946809The trannies complained juat as loudly against hogwarts and it did just fine in spite of them. In fact a lotnof people who didnt care about harry potter at all streamed "the wizard game" just tondrive the point home further. Trannies hold no real power.
>>738925682It's fine if you're an indie developer. I'm talking people who can't make talented friends to help them make shit, or can't afford to hire actual professionals. If you can do all of that stuff you probably already hate AI anyway though so I don't have to tell you not to use it.
AI has given me the FF8 cinematic adaptation I've always wanted.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq_c_qKgb-w
>>738946232>just post the last time i fell for it like a retard if you want to baitkwab
>>738935815I noticed a lot of ai niggers say shit like>you just hate AI because you're biased from all the bad stuff, but what if it was good?then not provide an example of it being good
>>738948327Because no matter what gets posted you'll say it's bad you retard, that's the whole point here.>see monet art, someone you think makes good art>think its AI>"ITS BAD"
>>738925682It's fine if you are working on some small indie game and want some quick background items for example, so just have AI make models for shit that will be either static or something the player can kick around.
>>738948327Here's an example of passable AI art. But let me guess, you think it's "bad", right?
>>738948538ironically small indies probably don't use AI while all big studios do to cut costs
>>738948769I don't think they do that way, yeah. But it has to be just a matter of time as the tools become better and cheaper to use.
>>738931472I saw your post on themotte. Good job faggot. Next time pretend you just stumbled on it rather than break anonymity.
>>738948461xitter outrage farmers that are literally paid for engagement are a GREAT fucking example of honest to god human opinions huh you cockgobbling nigger? and again this isn't proving AI is good either, you're proving that people have biases against it for being shit and are overly critical of anything labeled AI without actually SHOWING an example of good ai>>738948672hell again you're trying to do the same shit, this is a slay the spire 2 asset who've stated thy don't use AI. you're trying to bait out outrage over assets you're pretending are AI just to act like a smug niggerfaggot instead of proving AI makes good stuff. you genuinely need to fucking kill yourself you dishonest fucking nigger, you are contributing nothing to society other than the death of human trust
>>738948327Artists are now carrying out witchhunts on fellow artists for being "too good" and blaming it on AI assistance, or artists tracing AI images. >the anatomy is too perfect that has to be AI! >you improved too fast and yournart got too good in only 6 months! You didnt make enough mistakes so its AISo its ironic that real artists are now suspecting AI slop because it is too perfect, rather than how it was too janky back in 2003.Even people doing drawing streams are using AI and hiding it by filtering colors from their video stream. Pic related.
>>738948918>>738948672>this is a slay the spire 2 asset who've stated thy don't use AI. Anon, the nail is used for both middle fingers....
art is a method of communication via a medium.a picture is not necessarily art. LLM can generate pictures but not art.I’ve given LLM games a chance, there is something soulless about them. And the devs seem just as lazy with or without the tool, surprise surprise.
>>738949130Actually this guy was tracing over AI art.
>>738948918You have a very low IQ. Hilarious.
>>738949220Girl, but yeah. I recall that she has quite the defense force who stayed with them after it became obvious that she does her stuff with AI, because they just want some lewd pictures at the end of the day.
>>738926220The problem is that art is a social phenomenon.Take, for example, how people make fun of Kojima because he has his own unique style that reflects his personality as a creator. When people make memes about Kojima’s "genialidad", it’s because of an article in some Spanish-language magazine featuring Kojima on the cover.All of this is part of video game culture, and it only exists because creators are part of the same social context as consumers. You can research Kojima’s life, his influences, his personality, his interviews, and this creates a whole network that you can study in greater depth if you want. Ultimately, nothing in a game is by chance, every small aspect is linked to some decision or human interaction.If you start leaving art to AI, you lose all this depth behind a game. And this matters, even for the most reclusive autistic person with the poorest possible social life, because even they, when consume art, are interacting with a complex social network, something that will be lost entirely when everything starts being done first by Indian prompters, and then by fully autonomous prompts later...
>>738949130>>738949220>AI derangement is so bad they're accusing REAL artists of tracing over AI! that means anti-ai fags are all silly!!!>actually the artist really was tracing AIAI fags gotta be the dumbest fucking niggers on the internet
>>738947912Welp.
>>738925682>What are your thoughts on using AI art in video games?Kill everyone that uses AI art in video games.**Commercial games. Modders and people making free shit for giggles can slop it up all they want
>>738926220>as long as the AI art is as high quality as human artIt isn't. That's the issue.>>738949279Slave brain.
>WHAT ARE THOUGHT ON FVIDEOGAME ART AI IN DUHHHHHHHHHHKYS OP
>>738950239AI art is functionally indistinguishable from human art. If you say it's AI art everyone will nitpick it. If you say its human art everyone will be fine. We have examples of people getting bait-and-switched in this very thread.
>>738949475That was example when they really were tracing, your reading comprehension needs some work. Evwn here at my university we have people required to show their worl at all stages to alleviatw AI accusations.The only artists safe from AI are the ones drawing the really shitty deviant art tier diaper-furry or tranny with freckles style, like the ones infesting /d/ or the /v/ drawfag threads. Their art is so bad no AI models would bother to replicate it.
>>738925682That's a real monet though
>>738925682>What are your thoughts on using AI art in video games?Daat
>>738925682It's bad if I can tell. AI artifacts are pretty ugly
>>738949279Image models are like talking with the visual collective unconscious, though, and I know this because it's a bitch and a half to get them to not slim down the massively obese/musclebound characters I try to get them to make. "Oh, anon," says The Rest of the World, "wouldn't you want a nice fit attractive person?" No give me the fucking 600 pound gamer chud in a jockstrap that I asked for goddamn.
>>738925682anything AI generated should go straight to the public domain, and companies should be required to disclose what stuff is AI generated and therefore up for grabs. if that becomes the case, prompt away buddy (for all the boring shit nobody cares about)the reason AI art sucks is not for any listable reason. any accessible tool is going to be used primarily by the unskilled, the uninspired, and the pure profit-seeking. THAT which is tasteless and therefore not good.
>>738951940>anything AI generated should go straight to the public domainSo this is a good thing then?Because copyright laws have been shit for years.
>>738952904I bet capcom wishes they had AI back then, could have saved $12 million from the lawsuit for using a single cracked surface texture without permission.The worlds most valuable JPEG.AI art assets simplify life for creators and let them focus on design 100% of the time without lawyers and shit determing what tree bark texture is public domain and what will cost you your job.
>>738947835I don't care about how well the games perform, it's about discussion. Try start a hogwarts thread and see what happens.
>>738925682I'm an artist and when I opened your image I thought, "Wow this looks like shit. Maybe Monet is worse than I remember".
>>738953663>Slovak originThis time it wasn't the jews, I'm impressed.
Its used everywhere, every single game that is coming out used AI at some point for art production, but you will never know unless some low tier outsourcer forgets to overpaint it.
>>738925682I don't care about AI, I do care that it looks like shit 99% of the timeIf I can't notice that's not an epic pwn, that's a good thing. But AI is not there yet. It may never be.Artists are often the weakest link in any studio, but it's a problem that AI can't solve this because the main person to blame is the art director. A bad art director will greenlight bad human art at the same rate as bad AI art. We should be bending our AI efforts away from creation and toward validating and auditing. Give an AI a human-made piece of art and ask it questions an art director would ask: does it fit with the other assets? does it match our concept art? is it scalable? does it match the color grading and lighting?
>>738925682Thats a real monet you dumb retard, its called water lillies
>>738953663It's the Creative Commons dream come to life. Everyone just agrees to credit whoever they got inspiration or the assets from, explosion of creativity.
>>738953824https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Claude_Monet_Nymph%C3%A9as_Seerosen_1915_Neue_Pinakothek_Munich_M%C3%BCnchen.JPG
>>738954403Well there you go lol. I guess Monet's overrated
>>738925682If it produces better results, faster, and cheaper, no one will be against it. Has it so far produced better results, faster and cheaper? Probably not. But it's getting there. I'm getting fooled more and more with AI shit and I don't think I mind.
>>738925682AI is just cheap bootleg trash. Nobody wants that shit besides easily amused third worlders.
>>738954508>If it produces better results, faster, and cheaper, no one will be against it.You vastly underestimate art tranny seethe.
>>738926220its a longer time frame problem than what youre thinking about. ai slop devalues and deskills the next generation of would be artists. the more we rely on slop the more it will regurgitate what we already have, culture will stagnate. new art styles and movements that may have happened will never happen. its just not worth it
>>738954589Says the AIfag pretending to be an artist the same way a tranny pretends to be a woman.
>>738954829>implyingI don't generate shit. I simply do not care if something is AI or hand drawn. It makes no difference. The only ones who care are artists.
>>738954829For as much as AIfags claim to hate artists, they desperately want to be seen as a real artist to the point that they'll hide it because even they're embarassed over the fact that it's AIslop.
>>738954940Ok, so you're just a retard with no standards then.
>>738954695>ai slop devalues and deskills the next generation of would be artists.>devaluesThat's entirely up to whether or not artists want to consider indulging that fantasy that allows the contemporary art and media production environments to exist, or if they decide to buckled down, organize, and demand their seat at the economic table. There are any number of professions that are completely unnecessary that have legislated and marketed themselves into permanent economic fixtures that can't disappear without society undergoing a massive reorganization.>deskillsThat's entirely up to whether or not artists want to continue gatekeeping skill development and hoarding opportunities to build experience, or if they recognize the existential nature of current circumstances and put actual effort into promoting drafting, painting, sculpting, and related observation as practical skills that are important for humanity as a whole to preserve and transmit into the future. "Just pick up a pencil." This kills the means of human expression.
As soon as people figure out your slop is AI, anything that might have been impressive about it goes right out the window.
>>738955096It has been unequivocally proven that people can't tell most of the time, and they only hate it because they think it's AI. Look in this very thread, with an actual Monet, and people saying it looks like shit because they were told it's AI.If you have some jeet randomly prompting shit like "8k octane greg rutkowski" and it comes out looking like slop, that's one thing.But if you give an actual artist the tool, they can produce art, if they can get over themselves.
The problem with AI is that the people that propose it are its worst possible stewards. Everyone else, *anyone* else, would use it better than the people who make an active choice to. I would say they should try eating the slop to understand what's wrong with it, but they might just have as bad taste as Jack and would cook up the most godawful garbage and then proceed to shove it into their mouths with pride.You need a waifufag, a hardcore elitist snob waifufag doing AI quality control. One that would never let the machine get away with slandering his artistic vision. That guy can use AI. Not many others.
Assume everything being made nowadays have been touched by AI one way or another. No one in this capitalist society won't use AI if they can get away with it.
>>738955394Why would someone who already has the skills need AIslop? That's like asking a pro BMX biker to start riding on a tricycle with training wheels.
>>738955517Because if you get caught, your product will be rightfully labeled as cheap garbage.
>>738955531Same reason coders benefit from it. Speeds up their workflow by automating tedious parts.
>>738955625No thanks, i'd rather have a product made by actual competent people who take their time to make sure the shit gets done right.
>>738955767They're already using it, even if they think they aren't. Things like one click selection tools are using AI. Context fill, removal tools, spot healing, filters, colorization, noise removal, and so on. People are hard stuck on text to image as being the use case for AI image generation, and this is where all of the slop comes from. Works that you think are 100% human, that are made in photoshop, all contain AI.
>>738955294This was a defensible opinion a few years ago, but it's becoming increasingly delusional.
>>738955991Now you're just arguing over semantics. This also reads like cope about your AIslop is le totally "real" art like everyone elses which couldn't be further from the truth.
>>738956290you're the only one ITT who's obsessing whether AI generated images should be considered art or not
>>738955392It has a much value as a human copying paintings of great artists: none
>>738956290You can't say "AI is bad except this AI, that's OK" because it's all the same shit, just applied differently. I never once argued that AI slop is art, I said exactly the opposite, in fact.
If a game dev is going to ai generate art for their game, then they can take my ai generated money. I'm not giving real money to lazy shitlords.
>>738925682We've been making art for millennia and games for decades. GenAI will do nothing to either advance the process nor make it more efficient, as long as the industry, and AI, is in the throes of ignorant investors and overpaid, pedophilic executives. At the moment, it is entirely unnecessary at best, and actively detrimental all other times.
>>738956602Can you repeat that another 10 times my ears aren't as good as they used to be
>>738956602Making a game is a lot of work even with ai
>>738954829posted the same shitty retort again award
>>738956448They aren't and everyone knows this, even children. There's always that one kid in the friend group posting AIslop and claiming "I drew this" while seeking validation and thinking everyone else is as stupid as them only for all the rest of the teenagers pointing out in an instant that it's AIslop everytime because even they have been exposed to all the slop spammed everywhere at this point for years.
>>738956798Whether AI-generated images should be considered art (they aren't) isn't the point of this thread nor is it something anyone was arguing about.>There's always that one kid in the friend group posting AIslop and claiming "I drew this" while seeking validation and thinking everyone else is as stupid as themYou're literally making up random scenarios just to get madholy mental illness
>>738957006It's not a made up scenario. Frauds used to do it with real art before AI where they claimed to have made it, a good example is Alanah Pearce when she tried to say she made some Sekiro art from another artist. Instead of that though, they just use AIslop now but unfortunately people can still tell they're frauds because AIslop is easily recognizable by today's standards and also the fact that AIfags have no clue what they're actually doing so they'll unintentionally leave AI fingerprints everytime.
>>738957319She actually did draw this but she copied it entirely from someone else iirc
>>738957405She didn't draw anything, anyone with a brain could tell she's lying when she said she completed it in 45 minutes which exposed her as someone who has never drawn in their life and just wanted validation.
>>738957405leave him be, he needs a place to vent
>>738955991>toolsYou fucked up your own argument by calling them what they are: tools.Conflating generating a whole image with using the smart select tool is disingenuous as hell and you know it.
>>738957763AI trannies desperately want AI to be seen as a tool so they can finally get credited for their low effort slop.
>>738925682>What are your thoughts on using AI art in video games? I think this could be great for reducing the cost to produce games, which would let more be created.Then lower the price by 98%. After all you didn't make the game, AI did. Also naturally all AI created content cannot be owned with a copyright so if anything in your game becomes popular I can easily just make an actually hand crafted copy of it and claim the ownership of it.
>>738957939ai bros always seethe when you remind them that they didnt make it
>>738957834>troon calling anyone else a trannyel oh el
Someone mentioned that a chunk of background art in lies of p dlc is ai generated and i didn't notice.
>>738957997I'm not the one using AI to pretend to be someone I'm not like a catfishing tranny.
>>738957763Can you not read? I did not conflate text to image with tool use. I specifically separated them. But, they are the same technology, just applied differently.It's completely fine to be against jeet-slop, but don't pretend smart tools in photoshop aren't AI.Learn about the technology so you can hate it more effectively.
>>738957939>art is the entire gameDamn, guess those liberal art schools are just game-dev training camps.
>>738958112yeah you're using copious amounts of estrogen instead.
>>738958125Prove that you didn't use AI in the rest of the game then. The evidence suggests you pressed the AI button and did nothing else.
>>738958218Damn AI is that good now it simply takes a button press to make a video game?
>>738958276According to you AI pajeets, it took away all dev jobs. So yes.
>>738958114Again: it's a tool.I am not against AI being used in medical situations, in totalling up items in baskets, etc. But they're not the same as creating an image.
>>738925682I don't care if you use AII simply want you to be upfront that you use AIIts that simple. If you fear it may effect your sales, thats a (you) problem.
>>738958276yeah it's compatible with the going into games machine too
>>738925682Anon is unironically reheating twitter nachos on 4chan and isn't getting paid for it. Fuck off retard. We get the gimmick nigger, you ain't slick
>>738958312Wait is AI takin' ur jobs or not? I'm losing the plot again.
>>738958312kek retard
>>738958331>I am not against AI being used in medical situations,You should be.
>>738925682nobody actually cares about this sort of "art" it's scheme to act important and sometimes launder moneyso there's artistically not a big difference in value between AI slop and a "real muh hecking monet"so this isn't as big of a dunk on anti-AI people as you think, all it did is btfo the sort of people who gobble up this kind of "art"
>>738958418>>738958424So AI is not good enough for game development after all. Thanks for confirming.
>>738955135>gatekeepingAnd there's the tardbro's bane. It always comes down to their egos not matching their talents or lack thereof.
>>738958487@grok explain what this retard is talking about
>>738958538Aaaand there it is, tranny pajeet confirmed.
>>738958443No True Scotsman
>>738958538Thank you for asking me, grok, that question anon. This poster is clearly Elon Musk and therefore understands things far beyond your limited intelligence.
>>738958607fallacy slop
>>738936125>le seefingno one with an IQ above 80 says this
>>738958576>already seethingkekmind giving me a link to the "AI button" that can summon games out of thin air?
>>738958790Claude AI. Get with the times, tranny.
>>738925682Gotta wait for artists to stop throwing their temper tantrum. Same thing happened with photography.It's absolutely bonkers how the (supposedly) most progressive people can fall into such a conservative mindset, ie. scared of new technology. I'm seeing this more and more often, AI aside. It feels like conservatism is being reinvented and embraced by the left. Sort of feels like an extension of this political party re-alignment. Republicans went radical, so Democrats are going conservative, but wrapping it up in progressive ideals.
>>738958820how am i the tranny? you are the one using ai lmao
>>738959181>you are the one using ai lmaoPajeet has no reading comprehension.
>>738959181Mind telling me which type of person seethes about AI 24/7?
>>738959012From what I've seen, it's the AIfags throwing the temper tantrums especially when they try posting their slop hoping the public doesn't notice only for all the comments to be "that's AIslop" or "that's (A)maz(I)ng! in which the AIfag proceeds to chimp out and call everyone else luddites.
>>738955625the creative process is not something that need automating
>>738959293>Mind telling me which type of person seethes about AI 24/7?People that have standards and a brain that can think for themselves.
>>738959302>'s the AIfags throwing the temper tantrumsnigga the OP image is from a bunch faggots throwing a temper tantrum because they saw something and thought it was AI (even though it wasn't), what the hell are you talking about
>>738959353And yet all you think about is AI.
>>738959353This.Trans-women are also valid btw
>>738959414What do you expect? People tend to not like fakes and scammers.
>>738959542i expect you to not state the literal opposite of the truth and claim that it's AIfags throwing tantrums for starters
>>738959601Not only are they throwing tantrums but they're also crying because nobody likes their AIsloppa, it's very sad.
>>738925682Yes. Let the AI make art so I have more time to do yard work and dishes. That's how this was supposed to go
>>738954297it's an epic twitter prank right now, someone claiming this is an AI painting to bait people into saying it looks like ass and thus proving once and for all that AI is indistinguishable from art
>>738959754>unironically posting fucking Reddit screenshotsi do not have an appropriate reaction image for this feel
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>>738925682It's not at the level of fucking Monet at all you retard. Don't talk about things you don't understand.
>>738959831>You can't tell my slop is AI just like you can't actually tell I'm a man in woman's clothing!AI Tranny logic in a nutshell.
>>738959949so true xis
>>738959949you can spot AI the same way you can spot a tranny by their adam's apple, broad shoulders, and man hands
>>738959946
>>738925682I don't care as long as I don't notice it and isn't not ugly. Warno uses AI for loading screens and some other shit and I don't give a fuck because I never paid any attention to them to begin with.
>>738960067Spotted the buttmad AI tranny.YWNBAArtistYWNBAWomanIt's time to stop playing pretend.
>>738960214you're so heckin valid for this xiskeep up the good fight
>>738959946notsureifbait
Surely with less actual talent being involved it will cost less. Right?
It's always the biggest losers that are into AIslop, mostly in hopes that it will make up for them being a failure at life.
I don't really understand why people want low quality artwork made by jeets and losing the last 2 countries that support artists. The games are not cheaper, the artwork looks like shit, the games are all generic. AI is an anti-consumer scamTheres a big reason why AI games fail no?
>>738960931The enshittification of a hobby.
>>738960807Right!?
>>738960882where_do_you_think_we_are.png
>>738961090
>>738961167>4chins is my super secret nerd club!Newfag.
>>738925682AI lovers all need to be shot in the fucking head
>>738961235yeah sorry I forgot that this site was for Chad Thundercock only
>>738961251No point, they are already NPC bots who can't think for themselves.
>>738961251wow so edgy
I like to imagine the way things are handled is like a game of telephone. Except between each relay everyone is consulting AI for the most profitable relay.
>>738961251Extremely rational post and i'm being 100% unironic
it finds a place in the workflow, especially for mundane things people don't want to waste so much time working onlike extending backgrounds after art leads asked to resize itor brainstorming quick concepts for reviewmajority of the time is still spent making it the good old fashioned way but I can spend more time doing the stuff that requires having taste
>>738961453The mentally ill consider themselves to be rational, nothing new.
>>738934796>please describe, in as much detail as possible, what makes this inferior to a real Monet paintingthe replies are all bots
>>738961329>they are already NPC bots who can't think for themselves.Nah most people that love AI are either shills, boomers or indians. It's honestly weird to find someone that prefers AI to actual artwork. IF games were $30 instead of fucking $70 then maybe i can see why AI might be better than hiring real artists. Ain't no way i'm buying a fucking indie or a AA for $50
>>738961403what are you gonna do about it? Make an AI picture about how MAD you are?
>>738961586i'm goig to make an edgy post on an etruscan basket weaving forum out of sheer rage
It's getting good. https://youtu.be/aiC-LvYj-SM?si=4VHC899Km3AT8j9v
>>738961668Same energy.
>>738961668>99% motion capped 3D models.>Tiny AI filter on top.>Call it AI animation to attract investors because 3D models don't bring in the money.
>>738961970I can't tell if the reactor is AI or not.
>>738961650once chatGPT generates one for you first lol
>>738925682The problem is a bunch of luddites have circled the wagons. Turns out the number of devs and digital artists plus all the people with one degree of separation from them plus the people leashed to the political blue v red dogma sum up to a significant fraction of online videogame culture. The big AAA are shielded from this, but the small and indie developers that have to go with hat in hand via public online communities to get interest and marketing going for their game get walled by anti-ai fanatics. It's the same racket as pro-tranny mafia, or the anti-epic steamdrones back when esg first launched. All to protect their incomes, and this anti-ai crusade will be around indefinitely requiring devs to actively obfuscate their ai use for years to come.
>>738925682It's good enough depending on the context. For example, mods for Bethesda games.AI voices are more than good enough for mods. Infact, they are way better than the amateur voice actors that are often used for mods. Modders are just delusional trannies who hate AI in any form.
>>738962337Indian post.
>>738962407AI voice sounds like shit unless you use a professional voice actor and even then it still sounds extremely monotone. But atleast AI trannies can use it to sound like a robotic girl on VRchat and FiveM.
>>738962337you don't know what a luddite is
>>738962525troonbro... this level of projection isn't healthy...
>>738936668you're describing (((art))) i am talking about artseems many retards here don't understand anything
>>738962419What are you going to do about quality products that consumers like, where the developers simply lie and say AI wasn't used?
>>738936668that's not what happened lol
>>738962337>The problem is a bunch of luddites have circled the wagons.>Customers who don't want their food microwaves are just LUDDITES! Don't they know stone ovens are yesterday technology?!https://youtu.be/GIUFEW7LqKc?si=pGRn9k5tYTtfVGP3
>>738962602>troonbro... this level of projection isn't healthy...I don't use AI.
>>738962625>you're describing (((art))) i am talking about artboth are considered genuine art you actual retard
>>738962657>where the developers simply lie and say AI wasn't used?Demand a refund and give 1 star review for deceiving the customer, naturally. Their game also gets delisted from Steam if they fail to disclose the AI use because Valve wants to cover their ass from any future copyright lawsuits.
>>738962693no that urinal was not considered actual art look it up retard
>>738962690I mean, yeah obviously, you're trans.
>>738962657>where the developers simply lie and say AI wasn't used?Yet somehow they always manage to get caught everytime.
>>738962734E33 steam status?
>>738962756It's literally modern art dumbass.>hurr it doesn't count because I said soGood for you.
>>738962768>I mean, yeah obviously, you're trans.Buddy, I already said I don't use AI.
>>738962825E33 patched out the AI content.
The industrial revolution brought a lot of positivesAI still hasn't brought a single positive thing to the table that's not cheap porn
>>738962869Yes, I know, no need to repeat yourself. Using AI is a cardinal sin in a troon's view after all.
>>738962984AI is fake like a tranny aka (You).
>>738962886the one that was found, you mean.
>>738962525No shit. There's already multiple voice models that where trained on high quality VAs. Most of these sound way better than the dog shit amateur VAs you get in 90% of mods. Especially when shit like this is the reason mod trannies take forever to release shit. Their usage is still sparce however, since people assume you still need to pay for good quality models and modders are poor.
>>738962886Oh so if a dev gets their bag from ai product then spends more after profits to paper over it then it's all good. These rules go for every indie project too not just AAA titles like e33 and crimson desert though right?
>>738963050>even more projectionSis...
>>738962896>AI still hasn't brought a single positive thing to the tablePajeets shitty copes aside AI is likely to take over all the tasks that were done already as quick and lazy as possible. So its going to replace quick photoshop edits in concept art and online shitposts and its going to replace Wikipedia articles for people searching for quick summaries about some information.One thing that has genuinely improved is image recognition, so removing green screens with video editing became slightly easier, also OCRing hentai manga now catches way more text than it used to. The actual AI translation is still as shitty as google translation but its better than nothing.
I wonder how many of you rabid anti-AI fags have tech or gamedev jobsIf you're going to boycott any games that have been produced with the help of AI, then you might aswell quit the hobby for good, because I GUARANTEE 99.9% of the games being developed today use it one way or another.A company that don't embrace AI in 2026 is not even in the game anymore.I'm not saying thay I like or agree with it, but the cat is out of the bag.>t. techfag
>>738963091>Oh so if a dev gets their bag from ai product then spends more after profits to paper over itSo instead of just creating the content they decide to let AI fuck up first, wait for customer complaints and THEN create the content after the fact. Efficient!
>>738963045>AIfags believe they're a tech genius because they clicked the generate button.Lmao.
>>738963127It won't replace translators or people in positions of power cause that's how you spread propaganda.
>>738962865you don't know shit retard
>twitter accidentally discovers why impressionism is shit and the Academie was right to kick them out all alongClassic. Old artfags collecting Ws even two centuries later.
>>738963134kill yourself retard
>>738963260there's literally a french art-award named after him you actual retard
>>738928383truth supernova.
>>738963134>A company that don't embrace AI in 2026 is not even in the game anymore.AI is just making copypasting code a bit easier. Actual coders use it as the search engine as it really is. Vibe coders have become a curse word in companies already because they generate a ton of AI slop, don't know how to recognize or fix the errors and then expect to be paid for the effort. Linux internal discussion already concluded that AI code generation is only as efficient as the human eyeballs that review and verify it, because AI's constant hallucination issues it needs constant coder supervision.
>>738963185Yes it is. Maybe we should call it Early AIccess on steam.
>>738963460OK
>>738963524>Actual coders use it as the search engine as it really isExactly, hence why I said every company use AI one way or another.>>738963410Uh oh tranny meltyEvery single one of your precious gaymes was touched by AI. Seethe.
>>738963496That's not true
>>738963543>Creating something twice is more efficient than creating something once.
>>738963668You're the one throwing a child tantrum because people don't like or want your slop.
>>738961251truth supernova.
>>738963668>Exactly, hence why I said every company use AI one way or another.But the companies that use it correctly use it as a niche tool where human coder still does 99,99% of the work. It didn't replace coders, it replaced Ctrl+F and Ctrl+V on your keyboard when writing code.
Democracy and its consequences
>>738926220They won't be the same quality because companies simply don't evaluate them by the same standards. Maybe theoretically it could happen but it would be too impractical.
>>738963776gb2reddit
>>738963745.The HRT is making you so emotional and stupid that you cannot even read properly.I DON'T LIKE AI, and wish this shit was never invented. I'm just telling you how it is.
if AI was so successful then they wouldn't try to hide it whenever the devs upload their game to steam(:
>>738963793Reminds me of that company that had their entire database and backups deleted in 9 seconds thanks to the AI fucking up.
>>738963848redditors dont condone political violence doe
>>738963867I don't determine success by trannies throwing tantrums, otherwise I'd have to cope about E33 and Crimson Desert.
>>738963864Yeah but companies make sure the AI doesn't show in the end product, because clearly customers don't like it and start questioning what are they paying the devs for if the devs don't actually create the game themselves.
>>738964012they do when the recipient holds the wrong opinion
>>738964024E33 and sony games are astroturfed trash. Literal goyslop
>>738964108Delicious cope
>wah wah please kill all artist >Ai is faster and better Then why older games only took a year of dev time while giving us better quality game
>>738964183Remember astrobot? the 10/10 on rail cinematic platformer? that was fun,extremely iconic if you ask me. a 2 month iconic piece of trash.
>>738964026Yes, and? That doesn't contradict my point.Directly or indirectly, knowingly or unknowingly, your games were touched by AI.
>>738964254>your games were touched by AI.And then they removed the AI placeholders and replaced it with non-AI. Thats fine.
>>738964313>AI only generate art assetsK then, carry on with the cope
>>738964313>he thinks placeholders were the only thing they used AI on
>>738964254You're an AI bot on Very Easy difficulty.
>>738957538You obviously haven't if you think copying that shit takes more than 45 mins
>>738964754Stick to using AI little buddy, you clearly need it.
>>738925682For me it's essentially the art equivalent of Unreal Engine 5 today or seeing Unity back in the middle 2010s. Making things easier means people who would have been filtered by the amount of time and effort required to get something out just flood the market with the stuff they previously lacked the passion to see into reality because now they don't need that passion to see it through. Things eventually skew back to normal but it certainly feels like it takes longer each time a new technology comes out that produces stuff much faster we've always had the ability to make, except now at a worse quality.
>>738964835>ProjectingConcession accepted
>Use AI to turn my notes into a proper document>Trannies start screeching about water and Patels fiverr artist career
>>738925682>Pic related is an AI-generated imageAnd it looks like it too, lmao. Are those pink blobs supposed to be flowers?
Tech advancement=/=better quality art
>>738965050It's not advanced tech in the slightest, it's just a glorified copy paste program which is nothing new.
>>738965018heh heh hell yeah bro!!!!
>>738964860>passion>muh games are art>muh emotional experiences>The game: Pixelated indieshit about depression or mental-illness with shitty/no gameplayI'll pass.
AI has set the bar so low that it even makes Dobson and DeviantArt Sonic OC's look talented in comparison.
>>738925682To make art for me, then half rearrange it to look made by a person and claim zero ai used.Fuck you, its a damn tool, does everyone pat Photoshop on the back when you use it? No, its a TOOL, Buzz!
>>738965549AI users are the real tools since they shill for tech billionaires free of charge.
>>738926307Nobody uses this nuance. Until anti AI fags learn the difference I fully support ai taking everything from them. Fuck it. It's already decimating them why do I care when no matter how much you work alongside the AI they only have binary 'do it our way' or 'slop'. They need plenty more pain right now there hasn't been nearly enough.
>>738965743"Anti AI fags" AKA people that aren't basement dwelling NEETs, Jeet scammers, and Trannies trying to catfish.
I don't think people understand how massive ai is impacting content of the futurePeople are going to be searching for novels, music and movies strictly made pre 2020. Like this will be a whole subculture. The only way you can watch or read something that is guaranteed to be created solely by a human being.I don't know how the fuck people can read new books, watch new movies or listen to new songs right now. It's ALL AI assisted.
>>738964860UE5 is so aids it's killing movies too kek
>>738927482Yes, of course. Not in the retarded way you think, but simply by competition from smaller teams who charge less. Kinda like E33 already did without the robots.
>>738930481The best thing you can say about Slay the Spire's art is that it's mostly readable. Which is important, but not enough to be good.
>>738966142Retards like this will literally call anything AI, it's not. It's the same as thinking VR is actual virtual reality when really it's just a screen with a strap around it.
I just think it's fun
>>738961574>picholy shit I just figured out why she's called snail
>>738967365
AI shills already gave up, huh? Learn your place at the bottom of the barrel, faggots.
>>738925682anti-AI crowd has the same energy as the cancel culture crowd from a few years ago, except they have no power because they can't get people fired from their jobs.
>>738961574>Nah most people that love AI are either shills, boomers or indians.or zoomers or the majority of millennials
>>738962693(((art))) is considered art, because it can be used to launder money and make money on the back of pure make believe, essentially marketing or function as propaganda.you really don't understand anything, how old are you?
>That'll be $79.99 plus tip, goyim.
>>738972463I actually liked all the AI art they used lol. Most games don't bother making art for posters and CD has a shit ton of them. I wonder if they used an LLM for the bounty descriptions too, since there are so many.
>>738972676>He actually bought the gameA fool and his money are soon parted.
>>738965932Also aka you. No one will ever want your shitty art by the way. Cry about it faggot.
>>738972958>he's actually crying about a game he hasn't playedIt's a fantastic game.
>>738972676>I actually like the taste of their shit!Okay.
>>738973328the art was mostly fun and fine. he posted one that sucks but filler art like that in games always sucks if they bother making it at all.
>>738973283Witcher 3 is a million times better and it doesn't feel like a soulless AI generated game.
I'm ok with art niggers fucking dying
>>738974000Without art niggers, you wouldn't be able to generate all your favorite futa porn in the first place.
>>738973939Witcher 3 is much worse in every way except music and writing. It feels way more AI generated too, especially the art lol. Damn now that I'm thinking about it compared to Crimson Desert, I'm even more impressed with Pearl abyss... How did they do it?
>>738974243Nice screenshot, I'm sure it reminds of your home in India.
>>738974371You would know what India looks like I guess, being a poorfag jeet and all. I thought it was brown.
>>738974438>Saars, I can finally roleplay as a white man!Lmao.
>>738974490>fighting with a completely fabricated strawman because you're too poor to afford gotyhow did you get this fucked up?
I thought this monet thing was pretty funny until I actually looked up the tweet and this is what the dude who posed the question is doing. Fuck off
>>738974668I'm sure you think $70 is alot of money for you.
>>738974807>says the one whining about costs
>>738974871If you want to waste your money on garbage, that's on you.
>>738974795based baitlord made millions of people mad by showing them a mirror proving they're stupid
>>738975028I don't waste my money, I bought an excellent game lmao. Easy 9/10d despite barely having a story.
>>738975119>I don't waste my money, I bought an excellent game lmao. Easy 9/10d despite barely having a story.
>>738925682i dont want there to be even more half assed videogames.I want games that are actually fun.
>>738925682There's already tons of slop games on the mobile app store and guess what?Nobody fuckin plays them.
>>738925682Imagine if there would be a hypotetical entity that wouldnt be sentient. That being would live by simulating sentient beings, it would be its core evolution principle.When you accept, tolerate and welcome it as a part of normal reality like it would be a interaction from normal human being, you substitute a real creation from a imitation.I dont know how ignorant you must be to shill for slop copy-cat, when you can have real interaction. I understand that people cant create, I understand that they are weak and frightfull to the point that they threat or just hate to interact with society.Its normal in our times, but worshipping ai as a alternative is like beliving that imitation is the same thing as the real thing. Its not, it will never be, at best it will be jist perfect imitation, reconstructive remake that would stop existing without orginal new imputs.
>>738929514>That genuinely looks like MSPaint quality.But it's okay when Undertale does it?
>>738925682>this could be great for reducing the cost to produce games, which would let more be created.Yeah, this is definitely what will happen. Just like the transition to digital-only was supposed to reduce the cost of games because no need for inventory overhead or printing of physical discs, cases, etc. and no shipping costs.Remember when that's what we were told? And it definitely happened. Right?
>>738925682All relies on someone who gives a shit to use it well, and 99% of the shit I've seen can't even bother to change from default Stable Diffusion settings, maybe Illustrious. Fuck the ethics debate, hop off Twitter and just make something.
Why should I buy a product thats worth less than its price tag with no effort behind it. When AI gets good enough to start making entire games people wont buy the things anyone makes with them, they will be using prompts to make exactly the same kinda games while tweaking them to their personal tastes.
>>738925682Oh yeah, that was the actual monet submitted as an "ai" image and people shat on it right?Fucking had a laugh reading about it.
>>738967481Because she wanders around in circles?
>>738965743>nobody uses this nuance>that's why i won't use any nuanceok dumb faggot
>or zoomers or the majority of millennials>Just fuck my future up senpai
>>738926863>>738927669>>738927867>>738928203>eye patch swaps which eye it covers every other picturego shill your cringe ai-generated anime slop somewhere else. Also what retard would make a weeb Regent design and NOT give him drill twintails
>>738928383People will constantly misunderstand or misconstrue what artist intent is and the fact that a machine will never have intent beyond what it's programmed to do. You're better off calling them goys and moving on.
>>738925682I've seen that one, AI shill tried to bait people by claiming it was AI but several people called out his shit
>>738925682>SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR I JUST SHIT ON THE CANVAS I AM SUCH AN AMAZING ARTIST I'M THE MONET OF MUMBAI
>>738983687Trannies shitting themselves in rage isn't "calling him out", coping troon.
>>738971439That doesn't change the fact that the average person still considers it art, fucking retard
>>738925682It's only slop if I can tell it's AI.Also, fuck you, OP, at least crop a different image instead of bringing Twitter's refuse here. I literally just saw an article about this.
I am anti-anti-anti-AI because I have anti-AI and anti-anti-AI fatigue
>>738933918>Visually incoherent clumsily slapped together worldthis is part of the lore, retard
>>738925682>repost of a xitter off-topic threaduseless jannies
>>738925682I really don't care since the "art" you find in videogames were just stock images straight off of Google images before AI.
>>738974795There is nothing wrong with making NTFs. It's free money from retards
>>738925682it could be a great thing. you could have someone with impeccable taste create something new and original whose quality vastly surpasses that of the "le professional artist" who is just doing a corpo job for a paycheck, like someone working at naughty dog under niel cuckman. I think we'll get much more soulful indie and AA games thanks to AI in the near future. the amount of soulless corporate slop will also increase because anyone can be an artist with AI and those who already are don't even have to try anymore.
>>738957939>Then lower the price by 98%we are heading towards such a future, if robots and AI can create anything without the need for human work, the price of goods and services will gradually go towards zero. this doesn't mean this positive outcome (positive for the general population and normies) is inevitable, top 1% of society will use all their wealth and power to stay in control (even if it means nuclear war and total annihilation) to turn you into a literal slave or fuel for the machines instead.
>>738925682>literally just a repost of twitter baitGod this board is so shit.
