>becomes the best bug type pokemonHow did he do it?
Parasect will always be mah nigga
>>738928625a challenger approaches
>>738928625always was for me
heracross is forever king. pic unnecessary, you know exactly what he looks like
There is not one Bug-type that is bad.
>>738928625why does ariados have so many tags on rule34
Design wise, it always was.InChampions? It's very good into a good chunk of the meta.
>>738929539
>>738929539truth>>738929592it's a spider, why do you think?
>>738929592Spider
>>738928625Not even close
>>738929724Nerd werm is cute, Dottler and Orbeetle are cool.
Heracross or Scizor is the best
>>738928625I'm glad we're still getting cool new bug pokemon
I don't play lastest pokemon game, what happen?How did this lowly bug surpass my bro Volcarona
>>738930623If you mean ZA, Volcarona isn't in the game. If you mean Champions, Volcarona is in the game but being x4 weak to Rock kills all viability it could have.
>>738929724Nugen shit doesn't count. >>738929823You have shit taste.
>>738930623Ariados actually plays similar to a support Volcarona set. It walls Sneasler with Rage Powder + Insomnia so Dire Claw can only paralyze it. It deals no fucking damage though except with Night Shade.
>>738930398That looks like absolute dogshit.
Why do pvpniggers think anyone cares about that shit?
>>738930973>Not liking the Kamen Rider grasshopper
>>738928625Any TL;DR? I know he has sticky web. Btw i was on Team Ariados since Gen2.
>>738931154It's very good into the current Champions meta and makes for great support.Not to mention it's Toxic Thread got buffed to also reduce Speed by 1 alongside inflicting the Poison status.
>>738931154String shot instead of sticky web, hits both opponents, reduces speed by 2 stages Rage powder to redirect, fucks Sneasler over and it's one of the most used Pokemon right nowPoison Jab to fuck fairy typesSomeone won a big online tournament with it but it's mostly just an anti-meta meme
>>738928625rage powder
>>738928625i always thought this dude needed another pair of legsto have the full set of 8
>>738931382I feel like toxic thread should actually apply toxic instead of just stage 1 poison. I don't see much of a reason to run toxic thread over string shot right now.
>>738930973Actual shit tastes
>>738931902I agree about string shot but regular poison would probably be better than toxic a lot of the time.
Gen 7 bugs are great. I probably like Scizor the most for all gens though.
>>738934684that water bug is scary. one is a tank the other a front tank
>>738929461My nigga>got Headbutt from some dude in Azalea Forest>head back to Route 33 just cause>headbutting trees for fun>this nigga pops upBeen a fan since.
I love Shedinja the most.
>>738936123Wonder guard is fucking bullshit
For me its Armaldo.
>>738930398Looks like an enemy in hollow knight
have fun
>>738936391volcarona is overrated as fuck, doesn't this thing get mogged by stealth rocks
>>738934684>Gen 7 bugs are greatCorrect.
>>738936469
>>738931716>love me bugs>get all bugs on emerald>train all me bugs to lvl 50>these fuckers are so dog shit that I struggle even with leveling them up on the smerglear cave
>>738936365>red parts on the head aren't the eyesthat will always be fucked up
>>738936469if you let this thing set up, you will eat a fire blast
>>738936667Yeah both the Hoenn fossilmons do that. Especially with the sprites. It's the same with Cradily.Still my favourite though and wish he got a mega.
>>738931083That thing's supposed to be Kamen Rider-esque?
>>738936667it still gets me off guard to this day
>>738928698My nigga parasament
>>738936985>>738936838>>738936391>quick attacks and kills you instantlynothin personnel kid
>>738937253that thing turned into a monster. im glad it doesnt have its mega anymore
>>738936365I have very fond memories of him completely walling my god tier nuzlocke party lol... I'd had such low expectations since the rest of the game was piss easy yet this dumb bug fucked me
>>738937327mega pinsir is in champions
Scyther. Big swords. Do not @ me. This is not a negotiation.
>>738937397yeah but theres rock slide so ggs. new players are realizing the flinch rate it gives is busted
>>738930871Rellor is another great Bug-type, yes.>>738931716I both love and hate these two at the same time. I really like their designs and them as creatures, but how they were made gameplay-wise is absolutely mind-boggling and it makes me rant internally every time I think about them. Which is quite often, actually, as they are some of my favourite Bugs.
>>738937947You just want to fuck that firefly
>>738928698He's only good in gen 1 because he was the only spore user. He desperately needs some kind of buff. Base stat boosts, new evo so it can abuse eviolite, just something.
>>738931716I used volbeat on an emerald playthrough. It gets tail glow as a signature move, but it has shit special attack and the only decent stab it gets is physical. Almost feels like they wanted to do the physical-special split in gen 3, but bailed last second.
>>738930398I hated him at first but now I love this fucker like you wouldn't believe.
>>738929461>pic unnecessary, you know exactly what he looks like.
>>738938606Why is John looking at me like th at?
>>738938023No, fireflies are just cool and how these Pokémon are made (both the good and the bad) is interesting.There are sexier bugs desu
>>738936597
Waht do you think about this dino
I do not like Ultra Beasts.
>>738937947>male gets the best SpA boosting move in the game>has fuck all base SpAFucking why?
:)
>>738939327insect perfection
>>738939092Snuggle bug
>>738939043sexy roach. hope its doesnt get nerfed to let the other pseudo legends have a turn
Volcarona is likely my favorite bug 'mon.
>love him>raise him>give him the best moves for figthing>never ever being goodmy boi...
>>738928625https://files.catbox.moe/xj2c53.mp4
>>738939812I wish they would buff Pokemon base stats, instead of focusing on buffs through gimmicks.
>>738931154Ariados gets rage powder which redirects all attacks towards it, which is very useful in double battlesIn the current meta (Champions) one of the biggest threats is Sneasler which is poison/fighting and Ariados resists both, so you can make it attack Ariados while your other pokémon deals with it. It also gets a couple of other support movesNothing has changed in singles though
>>738940119They do get buffs, but it's usually +10 in both defensive stats if gamefreak are feeling generous.
>>738939250Because Game Freak.Nothing makes any sense regarding these two, Volbeat having a signature move that give +3 (+2 in gen 3) Special Attack despite being the better physical attacker while Illumise having literally nothing special despite her having more Special is just stupid. This isn't the worst part though, you know what else gen 3 added? It added two new EXP groups in Erratic and Fluctuating, the former starts off the slowest but ramps up resulting in needing the least amount of EXP to reach level 100 while the latter is the opposite, it's starts off fast but falls off and needs the most (almost triple of Erratic) amount of EXP to reach 100. Naturally, having two Pokémon that are literally the same species (the only other being the two Nidoran) means that they should be separated into these two groups, Volbeat being Erratic and Illumise being Fluctuating. Genuinely mind-boggling.
What is your honestly opinion on this bug mon?
>>738938337>>738940918Because Volbeat has a glowing fucking tail anons
>>738940119Gimmicks are a lot more impactful than numbers. You could bump Ledian's BST by 100 and it would still be a shitmon
>>738941294Yes anon, he has Tail Glow because his tail glows, good job.
>>738941521Yes, you seemed confused as to why the pokémon with a glowing tail learned tail glowWould you also like to know that there are only two genders
>>738941294>>738941758What we are confused with is why the one with the glowing tail that can boosts its special has a shit special stat.
>>738928698RIP my cute lil paris! If it were up to me I'd never let those shrooms overtake you!
>>738941758No, what is baffling is the STATS of the two. It's one thing to give Volbeat a move called Tail Glow, it's another to make it raise Special Attack while also giving him none of it to begin with.
>>738928698>>738941927Third evo/mega where it overcomes its fungal parasite and regains consciousness when? I don't care if it doesn't makes sense, it's pokemon.
>>738941845>>738941953Assume that the movesets are based on design and type and not competitive pokémon, especially when it's an early game bugGyarados hasn't had a single decent flying move in 9 generations despite being flying, because it doesn't have wings. From a competitive point brave bird makes sense, from a design point it's just not a bird.
>>738942406An actual evolution would just make it fully dead.
>>738942474Okay? That doesn't have anything to do with the decision of giving a Pokémon okay at best Attack and piss all Special Attack AND a move that raises its Special Attack when they could have just made it have okay Special Attack or made its signature move just raise ATTACK instead.
>>738930398Pic unrelated?>>738931083>dude it's based on something, that makes it good!
>>738943029Actually it does you, it got it because of its design, it doesn't have an attack stat of 100 because it's an early game bug.
>>738942887a mega like this would be savage
>>738942406To continue with the theme it already had going on, maybe a friendship evo where the spirit of the deceased Paras cannot pass on because it wants to be with its trainer again and it repossesses its body by force. Give it twitchy movements like it isn't in complete control of itself, maybe some fluid leaking from now-wilting mushrooms, front claws sharpened to resemble grim reaper scythes. Keep with the creepy vibe. Name could be something like "Paraspectre"
>>738930398Looks like a Bug Fables character.
>>738929724I like the NPC girl who has one of these and follows you to different gyms. She becomes your fan and her mon evolves into Orbeetle by the end.
>>738936123I was so proud to obtain one in Ruby as a kid. There’s something cool about glass cannons.
>>738942406>gets a third evo>it's ghost type
>>738943451Yes, its design definitely says "give it no Special Attack and a signature move that raises it for no reason", sure.>it doesn't have an attack stat of 100 because it's an early game bugHeracross.
>>738939486Phero will not get a targeted nerf, Game Freak has added a bunch of dumber high speed stuff since then like a few Galar mons that nearly match its speed, booster energy, and soon the "Z Megas" which speed tie with it and have better statsBeast Boost doesn't hit the same when you're forced to run Hasty nature
>>738944309yeah but guessing a ice spinner or ice beam is scary if you guess wrong and it comesback
Where are the bug legendaries?>Muh genesect/ArceusDoesn’t count, where are the bug legendaries living in the modern day Pokémon setting like all the others?
>>738928625>390 BSTWhat the fuck were they thinking?
>>738936391best bug
>>738940918Miltank and Tauros are the same species
>>738944090Heracross wasn't an early game bug, Ariados and Ledian were, and they've got low stats and signature moves just like Volbeat.A +2 attack to physical would have just been sword dance, then you would have had to make Illumise stronger so there's no clear better choice
>>738944758While they are implied to be related, they aren't and merely are counterparts. If you breed a Miltank, you will only get Miltank eggs, you won't get Tauros.If you breed Nidoran Female or Illumise, you can get eggs of Nidoran Male and Volbeat respectively. These are the same species but have such a big gender difference that they count as two Pokémon species.
>>738931520That's the 2nd time in compfag history Ariados happens to have the right set of tools/be in the right place at the right time.Back in Gen 4 Ubers, Ariados saw a little bit of meme use as an anti lead, because of its ability Insomnia (meaning it can't get slept by Dark Void) and its access to Shadow Sneak to finish off sash Deoxys-Speed leads and prevent them from laying two layers of hazards.It's funny that it happened twice.
>>738945084I could've sworn they got the same egg change as Nidoran at some point. Weird.
>>738945229Gen 4 was also when Parasect stonewalled Choice specs Kyogre. Funny how both of these bugs found a use there.
>>738945229Did you play gen 4 or have you been watching falseswipe too?
>>738945229Gen 4 had ton of wacky ass shit due lack of team preview, GF ruined whole thing with team preview and open sheets, but also people had little knowledge of meta at time.They did that because nips get uber butthurt when they get sweep by some meme ass mon.
>>738928625In singles? No that's Genesect, Volcarona, Scizor or Pheremosa depending on what meteic you're looking at.
>>738944610Bugs seem to be a weaker type in raw power, I mean we have ultra beast coverage with bug if that counts for anything, but I just don't think they see bugs as legendary material. We'll probably get one eventually, but it's a fairly weak type overall.
>>738945809>They did that because nips get uber butthurt when they get sweep by some meme ass mon.They get that way when you beat even one of their pokemon. Fuck me the amount of quits in gen 5 I got after knocking out their lead was astounding.
>>738945650I was only a lurker back in the Gen 4 times, I started playing later, but it's always been on the more popular stories of a Pokémon seemingly having no business being up there doing the job, kind of like the time Solrock made it all the way to #1 in Gen 6 Ubers as a Trick Room lead with, again, just the right tools in the right time. (Trick Room and Magic Coat to bounce hazards off, could explode on any bad matchups for decent damage, Levitate on a Rock Type matched excellently to buy time and set up on both Primal Groudon/Ho-Oh and didn't limit its role to just a lead).I've never been much of a compfag but I like to lurk and watch the rare but funny instances of people thinking outside the box to solve a problem in a given metagame.
>>738945907Every time bug and dark get a boost psychic gets fucked over a little more
>>738944867Jesus Christ, you really don't know anything about Pokémon.>availabilityIf Volbeat and Illumise are early game bugs to you, then so is Heracross as you could get it at around the same time in the game as them, debatably you could even say it is actually earlier. You can get Heracross after the second gym, and you find Volbeat and Illumise before the third gym.The real early game bugs of gen 3 are Wurmple, Surskit and Nincada.>signature moveHeracross and Ariados had signature moves in Megahorn and Spider Web, Ledian did not. This has nothing to do with early game bugs.>A +2 attack to physical would have just been sword danceYes, and? That would have been at least somewhat okay with Volbeat's stats. He could also just have had the same stats as Illumise instead, it would fit better honestly.>then you would have had to make Illumise stronger so there's no clear better choiceI genuinely don't know what to respond to this with, it's dumber than Game Freak's decisions with these bugs.
>>738946135Well bug has to get a little love, even if it's at the stake of psychic's well being. The weaker types should get more attention to help them compete and do wellI'm still hoping they give ice a water resist and then change freeze to frostbite in a mainline game,
>>738944867>Heracross wasn't an early game bugtldr: Yes, it is.You can get it as early as you can get the TM for Headbutt, the problem is that because Heracross is supposed to be a *rare* early game mon, like Pikachu, you can only encounter it by headbutting very specific trees, which results in it being fucking impossible to find without a dedicated headbutt calculator, that being said you can absolutely get a Heracross in GSC before reaching the Day Care.
>>738928625For me it's Noctowl and Ariados. Favorite designs.
>>738943045When the thing its based on kicks ass yes
>>738946625>which results in it being fucking impossible to find without a dedicated headbutt calculatorWhat? You don't need some tree calculator, it's easy to find it normally.
bug chaser
>>738928698This retard was my first shiny and it took years until I realized because its shiny is so fucking dogshit
>>738946367>early bugs get signature moves, this has nothing to do with early game bugsRetard. And I notice the Illumise argument shut you up, they were a duo you'd know this if you played the games.Heracross was tied up with a gimmick that made it rare and even then it didn't get sword dance until you were well into johto, it was also part fighting in the gen that introduced dark and steel and was obviously intended to be actually competitiveVolbeat is a random catch with a gimmick move that wasn't designed to be competitive.
Lot of mons need stats buff, new moves and abilities.Too bad, instead of balancing the game they keep powercreeping everything. Then current OU ladder is downright stupid.
>>738947402they base their buffs on popularity so it makes sense
>>738939007HDB don't exist in champions but the main problem is aerodactyl, garchomp, other meta mons absolutely heem it
>>738941074Cute
>>738947626They buffed ton of mons on gen 6, just +20/30 BST, that's barely enough.
>>738947241Dumbass, you said Heracross wasn't an early game bug and now you say it is, great arguments. Just like your "Illumise argument" that makes zero sense as Volbeat is already way, way better than Illumise.>Heracross was tied up with a gimmick that made it rareVolbeat and Illumise are about as hard if not harder to find than Heracross, shut the fuck up.>and even then it didn't get sword dance until you were well into johtoIt has 125 Attack, it doesn't need it. Why are you even bringing this up, what does this have to do with anything?>competitive out of nowhereFucking lmao
It's time to play champions!>garchomp>sneasler>sinistcha >repeatNevermind...
>>738947952froslass is right there
>>738947887I never said Heracross is an early game bug, I've never heard anyone say that except you. I said Ariados and Ledian are and they got signature moves like Volbeat>what does this have to do with anything?Sword dance is a +2 boost to attack, which we were just discussing, just like competitive
Stop nuking me with Sylveon just because Floette is my only mega u fuckin faggots
>>738947952Garchomp fucking deserves this anon, it's been too long
why did they try to push him on us so much?
>>738948158>Garchomp viable in release SV>Garchomp on almost every team in Legends ZA and also he gets a new mega for some reasonPoor Garchomp suffering…
>>738948084Gets raped by sneasler
>>738948452your dugtrio?
>>738948452Nta Sneasler cannot hit Frosslass for shit unless it’s a schizo rock slide one
>>738948452Did you mean to say kingambit/charizard?
>>738948506Throat chop?
>>738948452Basculegion*
>>738948584Charizard and king gambler are kind of bitches now
>>738948091LEDIAN does not have a signature move, HERACROSS does. Which you just said was an EARLY GAME BUG when you said>early bugs get signature movesWhich is wrong, just like calling Volbeat and Illumise early game bugs is wrong.>Sword dance is a +2 boost to attack, which we were just discussingNo, we were talking about VOLBEAT and its signature move TAIL GLOW and STATS being a complete illogical mismatch. >just like competitiveAre you a Game Freak employee, perhaps?
>>738948304I barely remember seeing Garchomp in gen 9, I heard it fell to UU but that's it. I saw more Dragonites
>>738936602Gen 2 onwards is when they started making pokemon shitty on purpose and gen 3 is full of those. Despite some pokemon being weak in gen 1 all of them were usable. IDK why they decided some only exist to fill a box.
>>738948763Swapping ledyba's spd and atk wasn't on purpose
>>738948693Heracross is not an early game bug, it was designed with viable usageThe significance of sword dance here is that Heracross gets it as one of its final moves because a +2 attack boost is very good. Gamefreak wasn't going to give Volbeat a high attack stat plus a +2 boost that early, when it's just supposed to a gimmick with Illumise.I can't keep explaining this to you anon, just take my word for it that they probably had a reason for their game design choices
Heracross is a bug type Pokémon that is available before the mid-game.Heracross is inarguably an early game bug, it just happens to be very strong for an early game bug.
>>738947000What trees it can appear in depends on your trainer ID, including ones that the player can't actually access, so depending on your luck it's entirely possible you can't find one at all until way later, or it takes an eternity because it only appears on one or two trees with a low encounter chance.
>>738949931>it just happens to be very strongaight man
>>738931716Illumise is a fantastic prankster user, though.
>>738949072Heracross isn't an early game bug because you get it after the second gym, nothing more.>The significance of sword dance here is that Heracross gets it as one of its final moves because a +2 attack boost is very goodIt's very good because Heracross already has 125 ATTACK.>Gamefreak wasn't going to give Volbeat a high attack stat plus a +2 boost that earlyYou need to get up, walk around a bit, maybe drink some water and open your eyes to actually read and understand what I am going to say, because there's two things wrong with what you've just said.Firstly, Ninjask, the actual EARLY GAME BUG you get before Volbeat, gets SWORDS DANCE at level 25 with 90 ATTACK and SPEED BOOST.Secondly, the thing that is dumb about Volbeat isn't that it doesn't have 150 Attack with set up, it's that the "gimmick" with Illumise where one has higher Attack and the other Special Attack is stupid, especially when you give the physical one a unique move that is useless on it. That's what is dumb, and I already said that this isn't even the dumbest thing with these two bugs, you're the one bringing in other Pokémon even though they have nothing to do with this.>they probably had a reason for their game design choicesIt's Game Freak, that's the reason.
Rate my bug gym team.
>>738950484>no megahorn on john megahornlost in the sauce/10
>>738949956It's a 30% encounter on the right tree, just keep hitting them and you will find one. The right trees are the ones that have a high-encounter chance, you won't find Heracross in lower-encounter trees.
>>738950792>and you will find oneyou can very easily not, depending on what tiles are designated high encounter trees
>>738947000Its only on specific trees based on your ID. Depending on your number, you may not be able to catch them in certain areas at all.
>>738928625Wait when did that happen, last I heard people were still calling it trash
>>738950139With a bst higher than Miltank's while you're only just starting to break into level 20, yes, Heracross is very strong for an early game bug, because those at this point in the series are >Butterfree>Beedrill>Ledian>Ariados>maybe Yanma, iirc>that's itKeep in mind when discussing early game GSC that Dunsparce is extremely powerful for a Pokémon found before the Violet City, it doesn't need good moves when it's that strong.
>>738950862>>738950905If you're unlucky it might take you longer to find a tree, but you'll find one.
>>738951540Certainly not early, especially if you don't know how the trees work. It's almost feebas tier convoluted.
>>738936365I'm surprised they made him a bug type since crustaceans and similar aquatic arthropods are otherwise always just water (Kingler, Clawitzer etc) and any second type comes from some other aspect of their design (Kabutops, Crawdaunt etc).
>>738951627>It's almost feebas tier convolutedNo, not even close. It's easy to find Heracross once you know about it, Feebas is always a pain.
>>738940119Buffs don't sell new merchandise. You can sell new toys of a regional form or mega, you can't sell "Arbok's 100 additional BST"
>>738951853It's practically the same system. One tile per route that's correct and you won't even know if you're hitting the right one, or if the right one even exists at all.
>>738948272Because he was one of the only "cool" Gen 2 mons that was available during the actual game where people could use him and had actually usable stats, and was the poster child for the headbutt mechanic.
>>738928625Because he can learn Psychic which made him a cooler Butterfree
>>738943562>>738944069Fund it.
>>738952327Except instead of hundreds of tiles that you have to tediously fish on at least twice, it's a few trees you click on.
>>738952892If you don't know how the trees work it could be any number of tries depending on what you're doing. There's no reason to think different trees on the same route would have different mons at all. You could be hitting the same one a ton of times or spread it out among all the trees, you're equally as likely to be wasting your time, since even on the right tree the encounter is still random. It's just like feebas but less severe, which is why I said almost instead of the same.
>>738950920It won the first tournament in Champions. Though as a specific anti-meta pick, and the player said he didn't bring it to most matches. Still, it was a legitimate use and not just a meme pick.It also got First Impression and a buff to Toxic Thread. Neither of those moves were used on the team though.
