how do you improve your reaction time, i feel like i can never react to anything in time when i play online. is this something you can improve on or am i just stuck with my slow unc brain for the rest of time. also talk about fighting games here
Why does /v/ think SNK is shit?
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>>738932892There is certainly a physical, biological limit.But you can train yourself to look out for it, during an active match. Often, it's really not reaction but a combination of prediction and reaction.That can also mean your mental stack increases and you will fall for other shit.
>>738932892Read the flow of their movement, follow the arc of their intent. Try catching a fly with chopsticks.
>>738932892old SHGL geezeranon here. I would ordinarily skip your post entirely for sounding like a brocoli haired retard, but I'll throw you a half assed tip, from someone higher ranking than you with even slower reflexexes. You learn the matchups, and opponents enough to read, to cut down on what the expected range of actions from them are, so you can focus more precisely on what your inputs are. You also learn about how many frames your inputs take, so you know what's possible for you to react to on sight, and what you need to anticipate. Specfic example: Something like Alex Vale's shoto vs a Dhalsim in SF alpha, DPing Dhalshim's long punch. He isn't seeing the punch and then DP'ing. He's anticipating it, and hitting it.
>>738932892Ive heard multiple times you should try to divide your attention in mostly 3 things at the time, or you will be overwhelmed. Like, mid screen your focus should be on anti-airs, not getting clipped by low attacks or eating every fireball. Of course it depends on what your enemy likes to do and their character, some people won't stop jumping no matter how much you anti- air them and some people almost never jump. The idea is the least things you have to keep in mind the faster you will be able to react to those things
>>738932892just blame rollback like everyone else
>>738932892its not about reactions, you clearly aren't at that level if thats your problem. When playing the opponent, you have the ability to force your will on them. You are like a dog just staring at the ball, not realizing its going to be thrown. You aren't even considering your opponents actions or options. You have to stop to think what your opponent might do. I've played with enough scrub retards wanting to get into fighting games, always bitching about "muh reaction time sux" or "my hands are too slow". But they just mash like fucking spastic retards playing mario party. And the ones that don't mash, aren't even trying to counter or react their opponent. They just want to do what they wanna do, and act surprised the opponent does a jump in and punishes their actions. >"See! im not fast enough to hit him out of that!!"just block, its punishable.>"Yeah, but my hands can't react to that."just hold back, and wait for an opportunity to hit.>"I do, it just doesn't wanna come out when i want to do it"You don't have to do anything fancy just, hit him with simple attack.>"Yeah, i gotta work on my timing."Sure, bro.
>>738933078>>738933420>>738933654>>738934006ty anons, i know you have to eat shit in a lot of games before you can improve so i'll just need to keep playing and keep learning my muscle memory and snap inputs. fighting games are an entirely different beast from other games i learned because there is a level of physicality to the gameplay other genres don't really have. its pretty easy to get demoralized but i know thats just part of the process.i'll just keep grinding it out and learning as i play. i know it will be really satisfying once it all clicks, i've never really taken learning a game seriously so this is all new to me.
Combo Breaker 2026 schedule for next week. There's also Dreamhack today.
1/ Are you actually looking for it? An overhead you aren't actively waiting for will always be invisible2/ Is your mental stack small enough for you to be able to watch out for it all the time? Improving in other aspects of the game can often be a distraction, as thought processes related to those things become more autonomous reacting to things becomes easier3/ Did you polish the response to it by practicing it in the lab? You can't massively decrease reaction time but you can decrease the buffer before you act on it
Why is Tekken hiding the last character? Is that another guest slop?
>>738932892Play a better game than sf6
>>738934696when does dreamhack start?
>>738936052May 22nd
>>738936052In a few hours is COTW and Tekken 8 pools.>>738936270Dreamhack not Combo Breaker.
>>738934696Tekken 8 surprise.
>>738935546Fuck no. Would rather hope for a legacy character instead but iirc they did say it's an entirely new character?
>>738933004ROCKPAPERDEAD ANGLE
>>738937378>>738935546Some one said it's Lei Wulong's son as new Lei clone. Maybe Christie with new different movelist to Eddy.But if it is a new OCslop or Guestslop i will laugh. Hahahaa!!
>>738935546it's Sol Badguy
>>738937921>2D character in Mashen 8Heat engager dragon install.
>>738932892>how do you improve your reaction timeyou can't. it's genetic.
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>>738938704i'm a code holder doe
>>738932972Arabs
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>>738932892A big thing is actually knowing what other characters have and what’s reactable. Some stuff just isn’t reactable, but for stuff that is, it helps a lot to actually know the animation and when the opponent is likely to use it and so on.
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>>738940004And celebs
>>738932892mentally prep for the options you're most worried about then look for specific cues, scientifically baseball players have the fastest reflexes bc they prepare for the pitch, then watch for the cue that tells them to swing - studies revealed that generally sound is the fastest reflexive cue for athletes but that can be hard to use in a fighting game especially against better players who WILL throw out "noise" moves just to muddy your reflexes and expectations
>>738935546I'll laugh my ass off it's some shit like Invincible in Tekken 8
>>738942424>especially against better players who WILL throw out "noise" moves just to muddy your reflexes and expectationsI know it's not what you're talking about but this reminded me of that time Arslan Ash threw a bitch fit because Mexican KoF players pressed non-functional buttons on their stick to throw him off, and he got exposed as a stick watching faggot.
>>738942630wouldn't make much sense when the game just released
>react to the overhead>actually it's an aerial lowfuck you
>>738943921Can’t you just flashkick if she commits to something
>>738932892The straightforward method is to do simple drills against what you're struggling against. Set the training dummy to do the overhead and try to be ready but it mostly comes down to being mentally prepared and looking out for moves that you know are reactable. Most moves in fighting games are not reactable so you know you can just wait and focus on the stuff that is. Usually this will be stuff like overheads, gimmick moves, or slow but plus moves so having character knowledge helps immensely. Try to focus on the player's habits and practicing against the slow moves and you'll improve. The best guys for this are those nutty dudes that like doing crazy shit, like the Ryu players in SF6 that do DI after donkey kick or whiff a move and mash super after.
>>738944076yes lmao 6p kills so many shit in this game
KIbros, tell me there's a chance...
>>7389442510%. Microsoft told the KI developers they are not interested. We will never see an other KI game ever again.
>>738944076You could if she does it from her command dash, but you need a DPIf done meaty, it beats slow reversals, and the enhanced version beats every reversal because it only has 3f of recovery>>738944158iirc you can only 6P it in pressure if she does it late and you need to immediately 6P it hits low to the ground so there's a huge chance it's actually gonna clip your 6P if it's in neutral
>>738944350>Microsoft toldwas that before or after the new pajeeta head of Xbox took over? They ARE going to try to advertise games for Helix right? Sheesh. This sucks. Klobb still works there and Djames is still the "head of KI". We could have had a new KI every console gen if it was handled well.
>ed's theme - sf5Chemical catalyst, rattling ever hazardousSubdued by all my memories, but never been a pacifistSo quick to put up the fists, it's hard to resist, but I just might lose controlSo shoot, and I never do miss, I gotta take risks if I wanna have it allSo let go of the poison, the venom, I'm sinning, I'm sinningThe voices are spinning with the visions all writtenGot the pictures of my prophecy, develop my philosophyWoke up in the morning, told the world to get back off of meYeah, and still the nightmare's creeping up at nightI'm a fragment in the mirror, see in black and whiteLike, who is me and who is gonna take me over?My soul is my soul in the eyes of the beholder>ed's theme - sf6*some cringe nazi shit*
>>738946192>t. mein motto ist lose lose
>KOF98UM got PGM2 portHow the fuck? They did for chinks but still weird as shit.
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who are the objectively coolest fightan characters of all time.my list so far:>vega/claw>king - tekken>geese howard>nightmare>jin kazama>akuma>iori yagami>sagat>i-no>bryan fury>sub-zero>scorpion
>>738947978This guy. Still can't belive they didn't put him in KoF XV.
>>738947978hakumen
>>738948424I would rather have XI port
>>738947978Haohmaru
Anyone want to play Soulcalibur?
>>738949051This tbdesuI want to play as Momoko and Gai again.
>>738934696Where's the side tournament schedule?
>>738949158She's cute I want to pull her top down.
>>738947978Sol Badguy
>>738949158https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngzRGKKSXq8She is low tier far as I remember and stupidly hard to play too. Still, people don't give SNK props for their spritework, looks more snappy than Elena.
>>738932892My problem is that I mash too much in 2D games. Like I can't even do magic series correctly in a real match sometimes let alone long combos with halfcircles, it feels like there's no blood in my hands during a game. In training mode it's fine after a bit of warm-up.
>>738947978K'UrienAkatsukiRyu HayabusaMagneto
Guys come on it's not funny anymore, just play our game and buy 4 skins please Riot is breathing down our necks and I think they killed some animators please FGC save us so we may save you!
>>738950456I only played against the CPU and my non-KoF playing friends so tiers didn't really matter much for the short amount of time I played it. Still, it was fun.>people don't give SNK props for their spritework, looks more snappy than Elena.Her rolling animation is funny.>>738949353Don't do that.
>>738951359They’re real lucky this ain’t on steamcharts
>>738932892dont play online.
>>738951359There was a point like 5 years ago when I was legitimately worried the biggest fighting game ever would be a League of Legends fighting game. I'm not worried about that anymore.
>>738951431It's really telling they're not giving 2xko an stats API like other riot games or it not being part of the riot creator program>>738951505Honestly they might have killed all chances of any big budget f2p fighting game.Good.
>playing game>getting frustrated>everything i'm trying getting randomly beaten out by a masher>hit laptop in frustrated>BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTTT>laptop crashes>oh fuck>hold power button to force a shutdown, already expecting the worst. gonna have to buy a new laptop without having money>turn it back on>it worksI'm swearing off fighting games forever.
>>738947978Haku- >>738948473Nevermind they beat me to the punch, so Hazama it is, specially in his CSEX iteration.
>>738951407KOF XI is weird due tag mechanics. Nowhere crazy for Mahvelfagstagfags but still divert from usual KOF formula even if gameplay is just KOF on meth.Also whole shit with arranged v arcade balance. Amusing enough I see more discussion about XI than MI despite latter selling more.
>>738951359I really fucking hate the control scheme.
>NESTS KoF has assists>KoF '03 and XI have tagand still to this day not a single game in the series has both
>>738953443Strikers are anything but balanced.
KoFXI has a cool challenge mode
>>738955162>when he plays against a zoner (which is half the cast)Still wondering what the fuck is wrong with devs. Zoners are gamekillers.
>>738952062I came into the game with an open mind to the one button specials since I use them when available in StriveIt's so bad, there's no apparent logic to which specials are S1 and S2, and you kinda lose the usual logic of motion inputs, eg. fireballs being almost always quarter circle forwards>>738955298They're not even fun zoners, their gameplan is just to shit projectiles on screen waiting to get a confirm into your assistI like zoners, it wasn't enough for me to care about the game
>>738932972All in your head.
>>7389551622KXO is the only fighting game I think justly deserved to fail. There are a number of fighting games I dislike, but I never want to see them fail and flop. This game being the sole exception.
>play casual for two hours>lose basically all matches>including against players with a tenth of the gamesI'm not going to touch fighting games for the rest of the weekend.
>>738934058You'll do fine. Also keep in mind you can solve this by forcing THEM to react to you. See also Tekken's 3 eddie gordo bot.
>how do you improve your reaction time[?]You don't need to -- just use the 'tard control schemes, and let roll-back take care of interpolating the rest.
>how do you improve your reaction timeIf you're not built for something dont do it.It's like manlets playing basketball, dont bother and try soccer or some manlet sport (one with weight classes).if your hands are naturally slow dont try to be a sc2 gamer for example.I'm sure you're good at something op, find it and max it.
>>738956643>just stop trying broRetard take. Everyone sucks at fighting games intitially. Saint from the Tekken scene was a hardstuck green rank shitter for years until he finally sat down and learned how to play and went on to become a tournament champion at TWT
>>738958191it's pure defeatist dribble but I wasn't going to say anything because I'm not against people dropping fighting games either
>>738958259>it's pure defeatist dribbleTo be fair modern games are all about reactions, NTA but i actually believe that if you don't have the reactions you shouldn't play fighting games. This wasn't true in the past when skill mattered
>>738932892Understand probability and type your shit early, pic related could be shaved down to 1ms by just being conveniently early with a good grasp of probability. if you're clicking too early, that's good and normal, just click early in the right situation. It just works.
>>738947978dhalsim. I dont like playing him since it's too annoying with the back motions but hes a really cool character.
>>738958693I should add that everyone in top 400 knows this shit already so you're not beating blaz or mena on anything except a new patch
>>738932892Practice with typing games, they improve your finger dexterity and pattern recognition/reaction, especially the sort that spam you with shit to react to.
truth is you have to go into practise and fuck around and zone out for hours while you program input into your lizard brain
>xiaohai drowned in pools 2 weeks after winning evo japanwhy can no one be consistent anymore?
>>738955162Damn how much attention seeking does the 2xko community wants.
Went and won a tournament at an anime convention and got a bunch of free shit.
>>738960581Congrats
>>738932892There's a peptide that increases reaction time for boomers but injecting yourself with experimental lab chemicals to get 5% better in a video game genre that nobody on Earth gives a shit about is mentally ill behavior.
>>738955298JP has only left top tier for like one patch in all of sf6
Uh oh...https://insider-gaming.com/new-ps5-widget-reveal-public-player-counts/
Anyone want to play Vampire Savior?
>>738932892PS5 update now shows current players ingameCan anyone with a PS5 share the 2XKO PSN player count?
>>738932892Is Tekken 8 still bad
>>738949296Couldn't find any info. Maybe next week.
>>738961493same trash as launch
>>738961493yes
>>738961493When was the last time you played?Unless it was last month, it is now marginally better than it was before.
>>738947978Terry Bogard and COTW Andy Bogard.
>>738961686>When was the last time you played?I've never playedI wanted to get into a 3D fg and was trying to find one that wasn't shit and wasn't totally dead
>>738961160>>738961394It only shows the top 10 game playercounts.and it only shows how many players there were in a week.So you're just going to get a list of CoD, FC and Madden.
>>738947978I see you like your edgelords. Not that there's anything wrong with that.Covering ONLY games you didn't touch: Blizzard: Primal rage.Galford: Samurai SpiritsHibiki: Last BladeFulgore: KIMorrigan: DarkstalkersDoctor Doom: MVCToki: Hokuto no KenDio Brando: Capcom Jojo"Rowdy" Reiko Hinamoto: Rumble RosesMayor Mike Hagar: SlammastersVanessa : VFTina Armstrong: DOA.
>>738961856OhWell then, the last 2 patches slightly nerfed Heat which is one of the biggest complaints about the whole game, and several of the more obnoxious characters also got some of their moves nerfed in a meaningful way.Have you played any of the other Tekken games? I like 8 but I understand that long time fans of the series still hate it and they think the recent changes are still not enough to fix it.
>>738962058damn i wanted to see how many players invincible vs had before i bothered learning it, its basically dead on PC already
>>738962153>Have you played any of the other Tekken games?Not other than playing through the arcade modes on 1-3 when I was 12. Like I said, I was just trying to find a good, not totally dead 3D fighter to check out, I have basically no experience with 3D fighters
>>738962292tekken 8 is a pretty good game if you have no legacy tekken skill or knowledge
>>738962292I am 40 years old and just bought the game two week ago. Losing all the time online but having tons of fun. Def worth it.
>>738962107what's cool about morrigan?
>>738962292I agree with >>738962392I understand that part of the reason I like it is because I don't know what Tekken is "supposed" to feel like.I probably wouldn't buy it at full price but I got it on sale and I have definitely gotten my money's worth and more so far.
>>738962175>its basically dead on PC already>just checked>1k players online right now>also it has crossplayGo play the game if you're interested in it anon.
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>>738932972Implying we think about snk, at all lmao
>>738962568Porn
>>738963481>he says, while posting the bootleg version of one of SNK's most famous charactersDixxers are truly devoid of self awareness.
>>738932972>thinkSNK has always been shit my guy.
>>738963656You did not even exist during their best years, please shut the fuck up.
>>738963728how old do you have to be in order to have fond memories of snk? 50 years old? they haven't been good since 2002
Ain’t really played much snk but I like the look of this girl from the last blade
>>738963728>snk is good because they last released a non shit fighting game in 1998lol
>>738963728bro their best years were almost 30 years ago now and they've been a joke ever since
>>738963620That bootleg is still better than anything SNK has done with Mai.Even DoA did a better job than SNK has with the character.
>>738963774Samurai Shodown, King of Fighters XV and City of the Wolves are good. Not as good as their older counterparts, but good.King of fighter XI, Neo Geo Battle Coliseum and Metal Slug 7 all released after 2002 and they are good too. >>738963919OK zoomie>>738963981I agree.Doesn't change the fact that anyone who says they were always bad is retarded and cannot, should not be taken seriously. >>738964062Whatever you say, Dixxer.
Performative SNK hate.
>>738964452>>738964462Saudi bootlickers
i like kof xiv more than xv is that a hot take, xiv was the first fighting game i ever really got into though so that may bias me. i played love heart
>>738964462You're right.Sorry for feeding attention to retards, I will stop now.
>>738964578KOFXIV is genuinely the ugliest fighting game ever made.
>>738964668no thats clay fighter
>>738963693wow!
>>738932972Capcom fans hate SNK because they've always shat on any fighting game that isn't made by Capcom.Tekken fans are now shitting on SNK because they took Harada from them, so now they want whatever he's working on to fail.Reddit fans hate SNK because of the Saudi ownership, but will give other companies like Capcom a pass despite also being owned by Saudis.
>>738963887Yeah she's hot and a bonafide MSGK
Honestly I have no hope for lumina 2
samsho aesthetically and rosterwise is my favorite fighting game but i don't really like anything else by snk. they should put nakoruru in sf6
>>738964931Nobody does considering Lumina 1 sucked ass.
>>738964931Why's that? Not a free upgrade as you expected?
I have an "SNKek with a Capcomplex" fatigue. And before I get called out for having bias to SF, I think KI shits on both of them but it's clear that SNKeks can't stand being the less popular 2D JP fg company and take it out on SF6.
>>738963693epic
>>738932972SNK was never good.
>>738964931I think it could be good. I mostly just wanted Len in a new game, only better case would be official rollback update for the Steam MBAACC
>>738965057>maybe Nakoruru should get RE ENGINEDYeah, no thanks.
>>738965120>the less popular 2D JP fg companyYou make it sound like SNK is in 2nd place.SNK probably doesn't even rank if you're talking about the top 10 JP fighting game companies.8ting, Arcsys, Bamco, Ninja, etc. have all sold way more copies and have been way more culturally relevant than SNK ever has.
>>738965120The reason I hate SF6 is PRECISELY because I fucking love Street Fighter and I find what they did with it absolutely revolting.For better or worse I am not one of these new, shit eating Capcom fans who just LARP as investors and talk about nothing but numbers.Capcom absolutely fucking botched Monster Hunter, Street Fighter, and to a lesser extend Resident Evil, why the FUCK would anyone celebrate that thousands of retards bought those games anyway?
>>738965068Even if they were to completely revamp the combo system and basically every system mechanic (which is already delusional), the 16:9 ratio and uni hitboxes makes me doubt it'll ever have the sick ass air footsies of the OG.
>>738965334>thousands of retards boughtIt was actually millions of buyers.Something that SNK will never have.
>>738932892>how do you improve your reaction timeby playing slow fighting games. I recommend Hyper Street Fighter II: Anniversary Edition set to the lowest speed setting.The Dreamcast versions of the SFIII games have speed settings as well, and you can use those for practice.
>>738965334the kind of nigga who cried about jar jar binks in 1999
>>738965458>missing the point this badly and completely ignoring what I actually said just to make an extra "SNK... le bad! xD" postI pity the people who actually have to interact with you face to face, Good Lord.
>>738965614you spend 20 hours a day posting about sf6
>>738934696>Virtua Fighter on stream for most of SundayThat actually does make me quite happy. And we get some pool play on Saturday evening. I need to plan a trip to this tournament again.
>>738965889>you HEADCANON HEADCANONSure, why not.
>>738965960you spend 20 hours a day posting about sf6
>>738965334>Monster Hunter, Street Fighter, and to a lesser extend Resident EvilRE9 was fun as fuck though? A lot better and scarier than RE8 and stuttering Grace is well-liked even if the plot is a bit hamfisted, it' REMH Wilds has the best map in the series period, the best "final boss" in AT Ark, some of the best music, HUGE improvements to most weapons over the shitty 5th Gen iterationsIt's also the hardest HR endgame game since like Freedom 2Keep crying about Focus Mode, go on
>>738934696>MYSTERY TOURNAMENTAny guesses as to what this might be?
You train your reactions.Set up multiple recordings in training mode. One being the thing you're trying to react to in a situation where it would happen, as well as a recording or two of where it doesn't happen or something else you have to react to differently happens. Then you just keep playing them back and learning to react.One thing you have to understand is the VAST majority of tight reactions in fighting games are not raw reactions at all. They are a big part prediction. You have to understand when these things could happen during a match, which can be based on your opponents habits or just that it would be a good thing for them to do at the time, and then you're ready to react. Perhaps you're already preemptively reacting at times, which is common for whiff punishes.
>>738966082Hoping for good ass Eighting fighters like Kamen Rider Super Climax Heroes, Naruto GNT4 or Bleach HTS 7.
>>738966082last year they had a bunch of different games over the brackethttps://youtu.be/SiUPeUzg4s8?t=170
>>738966082probably something gay like nickelodeon guts for the snes
>>738966082Specter Boxing from Ape Escape
anyone wanna play sf5 before i go eat something
>>7389653346 is an abortion of a game. This series is raped beyond repair
>>738964931Neither do I or anyone in the meltycord. Until we see the gameplay and new mechanics with a hud Lumina 2 is dogshit
>>738966082I know exactly what it's going to be.
>>738964931I wouldn't say no hope, but I am going to be pretty cautious until they show off some significant changesI still have a very small amount of hope that they patch rollback into steam AACC. It would be so easy, 85% of the work is already done, GGPO and the caster are open source
>>738967914lol, they would never use caster work, Kamone HATES modding.
>>738967914Ask about it on the surveys if they do more sometime, I’ve been wanting official rollback too
>ps5 will start showing player countskek cotw will be even more in the mud
>>738935546Rumors say it's Tifa
>4K > 63214PI want to like Dhalsim but everything about him is so high effort for no reason
>>738969085how is that high effort
Sorry for noob question but why is there rivalry between Tekkenfags and SFags if those game are kinda different?Why don't they include Smash into this competetion?
>>738969346most popular fighting game ips outside mortal kombat (and fgcfags hate mk so they ignore it) so they shitfling at each other>smashnot a fighter according to them so they dont count it
Should I drop Alex for Terry? I'm not feeling the stance stuff and it's a struggle to condition anyone in this game on top of how bad some MUs are for Alex.
>>738964856>Tekken fans are now shitting on SNK because they took Harada from them, so now they want whatever he's working on to fail.Harada opened the gates to the poozification of tekken and the woke takeover when some dumbass from Twatter asked harada about Leo Gender and he said "Leo is Leo, your game character", when the real name of Leo is Elaine Kliesen, a Woman, a tomboy. Also to mention He shared with responsability along with the board of directors onBamco with the flops on Unknown No.9 and Blue Protocol. Say He left tekken fans and community on agood shape is a bland response, he left all the fans/community with a rupture that i doubt i even t heal on a long time, the enthusiasm it had the community is mostly gone, with the previous gen can't accept it andmove on, and not with a proper goodbye to the fans he supported from tekken on TWT Finals on february,The community will split on two very soon and the space will never be the same as before, with the loyalists staying on the main title in a limbo, depending of the portal for the patches, esports, casuals, programmers/modders,and the community Harada will Inherit, the veterans, longtime fans, and modders/programmers, however, the corruption on the community is approaching very fast on the Harada side with the veterans and the community is slowing going to the corrupt FGC with the SJWs values with some ex-top players, fans and modders/programmers.The new community will make Harada and his team will get a pozzed fanbase with bad apples.For the Tekken Community, it's time to get the shit together and avoid the SC's fate and make a rebuild of the fanbase, the gameneeds fix, but it needs the union of content creators, pros and casuals they still care abou the franchise to fix the things, and also open more space for more females and fanservice in a good way, they know it. We don't need Harada anymore.
>>738969346Smash is kinda its own thing.
>fight strong player>they play their character differently than everyone elseI came unprepared
>>738962568Jet dashes. Drills. Rocket punches.
>>738932892Fitan casual here: isn't it also that while some movements are "readable" others are a guess? Like that's what "50/50" refers to, when your enemies next move could either be a mid or a low, and you have to "guess" what it is, because it's not reasonable to react to it. Hence: 50/50.
>>738969346sf fags are basically the bullies of the fgc since sf created the genre. In combination with that, normies have associated fighting games with SF first and have made it the most popular. With these two facts, the sf slimers use it to swing their weight around and abuse their place in the fgc
>>738970054>mid or lowHigh*High or low. Mids can be blocked low.
>>738970135I'm a tekken player.
What's a game that you can spend forever in training mode?
>>738970571UMVC3
>>738970571Plus R
>>738970571Tekken
>>738970571mvc2
>>738970571+RXrdStriveDBFZUMVC3BBCFTekken
>>738970571GGXRD for meI fucking love 100% RISC Mortal Counter combos
THIS IS ITTHIS IS IT
>>738970957Holy damage
Modern fighting games don't need reactions; only luck.
>>738942901this is a kino IRL strat. >play a character with a reversal>mash the stick and an unassigned button like crazy while getting up>walk forward throw
>>738971668>Daigo FT10 with Mena must be the first time we saw him sober for the first time in 3 years.
Do you ever go easy on an opponent who's clearly new and just starting to learn?
>>738969630I haven't tried Alex but Terry is a very fun character. His level 1 and his level 2 are extremely satisfying.
>>738972041I doI am absolute trash at all the fighting games I play, which means that when I am playing ranked mode with my lowest rank characters I get matched with actual beginners every now and then, and when that happens I usually do very short combos, I don't punish every single mistake I see and I give them the chance to initiate offense sometimes. I don't actually lose on purpose but yes, I go easy on people if I realize they are truly new.
>>738972041i used to when i was a scrub
Ingrid looks very fun. I hope she isn't very cheap.
LET THERE BE CARNAGE!
>>738972156Yeah I played him and his supers on top of the fact I'd play a character with an actual DP and some annoying pressure has me wondering if I should go to the dark side
>>738970571+R
>>738969650Whole lotta yapping of nonsense from you
Insder leaker just dropped the roster leak againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EIL-C4hOsI
>>738964931I'm willing to give it a chance, og Melty had to go through like 2 installments to reach a decent state by Actress Again.
>>738969151You need to OD to make long combos.
>>738969151>have to space my slides/dives by the pixel or I'm minus>most cancerous input sequences in the game>only character without an invincible level1, has to wait for lvl2 for any kind of invincible reversal>in a game where most the cast are ungabunga rushdown so losing control of the pace just once can snowballIt's the canary in the coal mineeven JP has Amnesia
>>738964931My boy coming back..
>>738973949He won't if he's relevant in Satsuki's route in Red Garden.
>Was always interested in GG>Every character just looks like the most obnoxious corny shit to play againstI get that you're playing as one yourself but literally every match I see of this games looks like absolute theft bullshit
>>738974001If he does, then I will play Lumina.If he does not, then I won't play Lumina. Simple AS
>>738934696>no muhvel 2uh i guess vampire savior will do
>>738943779is exactly the reason why it would make sense.
>>738974170It's boring as shit compared to AACC
>>738963887We'll never see Last Blade again but I expect them to keep rolling in the popular characters to Samsho
>>738974094Haha puffball and yolo ryujin go WATCHAAA
>>738974565Dayum. If that is the case then.. yeah. I will still try it just to confirm if you're saying the truth. But the fact that Nero Chaos got replaced by a fucking twink faggot with long pale hair is a HUGE RED FLAG that immediately tells me that they're targeting a new audience and not the old ones who were loyal right from the start. Pretty sad senpai....... just sad in all honesty.
>>738974094>the watered down GG is TOOO CURAZZZYY*yawns*
>>738974980Nasu's excuse is that Nero was way too fucking unique of a DAA to be killed as a midboss. Vlov was thrown in to fill in that role so Nero can be something more important in the future.I buy 50% of that excuse.>twink faggotVlov is fucking huge and beefy though? Dude has 9 wives and is the tallest character in the VN.
who up for some Mace 64
>>738973612this is just a roster prediction videoyou made me give me chinger changer a view
>>738975210Too handsome for me - and the way he looks is a clear market play meant to draw in female whales. Yeah I am paranoid but thats just how I see it whenever something that is not attractive yet cool is changed to something attractive yet generic, and Vlov fits the bill to draw in more female whale audience while ignoring old fans - in my eyes at least.But if what you say regarding Nrvnqsr about to be given a more important role in the future, then I might at least drink the copium and have hope that my boy will return. He's just way too cool to be sidelined for some white haired literal who with nine whale wives.
>>738974094EVERY character?
>>738975443>and Vlov fits the bill to draw in more female whale audience while ignoring old fans - in my eyes at least.Why would women pay attention to a midboss? I think you're actually just autistic. I think there's more fujos who want to pair Shiki with SHIKI or Kouma instead.
>>738975443The concept for Satsuki's route back in the 2000s had Roa and Nero teaming up. Satsuki is getting a route in Red Garden. Whether or not that will actually use that plotline or not is up in the air but Nero is still listed in the new continuity's Dead Apostle Ancestor list.
>>738972041I'm a geezer who came from the arcade era, so for casual play I have the old convention of letting super noobs have the second round, while I focus on practicing or the old equivalent of labbing out specific techniques, poke ranges, ect. >>738972001I think there's no fucking way he was sober during that Ft10.>>738969346Popularity determines whether your game lives or dies, and tekken being namco's lead game means a natural rivalry at some level. No other game has had the kind of effectively guaranteed slot that Tekken does. Smash was never in the arcades and has developed entire parallel tournament structures, conventions and mindsets. FGC players have other games that they at least play casually or socially. The competitive smash players really wall themselves off.
>>738975540I mean, I guess the zoner with the chains looked okay from gameplay.. And sword dude seemed honestThe default cover dude taking 70% off your life into corner carry/wallsplat from a stray hit looks fucking ridiculousChinese dumpling girl looked like she had a low/high/mixup move with identical startup that you're just meant to fucking guess and if she hits she takes like 50% in one go.
>>738975236My negro.Ragnar still kicks my ass.
>>738975837HOLY KNEEL
>>738975236Not doing it. BUT I will rock POJO on the 3d gauntlet.
Smashfags being banned from banning characters in their own tournaments has to be the funniest shit I've ever heardLike, I don't even get what Nintendo gains from twisting their arms besides sadistic pleasure they're not even managing the tournaments
>>738975960Wut?
>>738975960qrd?
>>738975837that's cool as fuck man>>738975917in case you (or anyone else) care, there's an n64 emulator with rollback nowhttps://github.com/Jay-Day/RMG-Kit supports all n64 games, so you can actually play shit like mace, killer gold, flying dragon or fighter's destiny.
>>738974094Strive is just one touch coin flip bullshit instead of cool and fun bullshit
>>738976017>>738976034>LMBM tries to ban Steve>Angry letters from Nintendo fly in>LMBM changes the rule to ban "crafting">Even angrier letters from Nintendo>LMBM concedes and allows StevefagsIn case you're not aware, Steve is in his own tier. Just absurdly strong, far beyond any other "S+" tier character in previous games.The entire meta revolves around him and how well the characters play against him.He's also absolutely horrible for viewership. Players hate playing against Steve and viewers hate watching Steve matches even more and will just drop stream so tourneys have been desperate to limit Steve
>>738932972Made for trannies by trannies
>>738975960>>738976341https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAA1xgTTw9w
>>738975683>but Nero is still listed in the new continuity's Dead Apostle Ancestor list.You injected hopium in my veins. Thanks frens.>>738975583As I said, I am paranoid hence my take. But yeah I am just that.
>>738975960>>738976341Fuck banning characters unless they’re boss characters like Gill you can’t normally pick. The culture of banning everything is why smash is for babies.
>>738976341Wtf it's been 6 years and Steve is still killing the game like Bayonetta in Smash 4.
>>738975443>I might at least drink the copium and have hope that my boy will return.Nero is still in the Remake as he gets heavily referenced a lot and has that flashback scene with Roa.Len is getting in despite her not even appearing the vn, and Lumina had characters that spoiled stuff before like Dead Apostle Noel or Red Arc's Last Arc. His chances of debuting in Lumina 2 to tease Red Garden are pretty high.
>>738932972China and Mexico got a stranglehold of the tournaments that Americanoids strive troons can't compete.
>>738976704Honestly they need to remake a Kagetsu Tohya too for the remake if they want tsukire to be as good as tsukihime
>>738932972executionlets got filtered hard by KOF so they have to cope and say only the meme game 98 is good
>>738966082It's a different game every round.
>>738976779True. From the looks of it, it seems like the closest we'll get is that Twi-Lumina's general plot is going to be reusing Len's main story at most, sadly. Unless they're planning to recycle bits of Kagetsu Tohya onto the story modes and Boss Rush.
you're gonna get more fgo characters
>>738976341Is Sakurai incompetent?
NOOOOOOOO yeah I think that's inevitable
>>738971603full risc will do thatI'd say it's unrealistic, and the specific combo isn't something you'll ever see in a real match, but Slayer can definitely do that if you fuck up hard enough
>>738976704Tsuki Re came out before MBTL so they were in the clear to spoil DA Noel, Powered Ciel, and Red Arc.Twi Lumina is most likely making true to what Neco Arc promised in the scene that teased Len where she said she'll be pulling from past Melty Blood games than from FGO.I'm not expecting ANY relevant Red Garden characters in Twi-Lumina.
>>738976765Would Chizuru be more interesting pick for SF than Mai?
>>738932972/v/ is full of people whose hobby is not actually playing video games, it's being an obnoxious faggot on the Internet.SNK makes an easy target because they are not commercially successful but some of their games are good and their fans are passionate about them, a combination that is basically perfect for shitposting.
>>738977735No. Sakurai gives no fucks about tournament balance. The smashfags have been incredibly stupid and hostile, and the big N is notoriously picky even under the best conditions. The smashfags promoting piracy, and emulation is about the dumbest shit possible. There's a reason why they aren't releasing a Melee:TE for switch with rollback, or a tournament balance patch for the current game.
>>738977817More -interesting-? Yes, I think so.But some people sperged out something fierce about Mai already despite the fact that she's well known and has a rivalry going on with Chun-li, I imagine Capcom-only fans would shit their pants if they had added one of the lesser known characters.
>>738978026>There's a reason why they aren't releasing a Melee:TE for switch with rollback, or a tournament balance patch for the current gameincompetence?
>>738977817>Would Chizuru be more interesting pick for SF than Mai?What do you think?
>>738932892>how do you improve your reaction time
>>738978048>But some people sperged out something fierce about Mai already despite the fact that she's well known and has a rivalry going on with Chun-li, I imagine Capcom-only fans would shit their pants if they had added one of the lesser known characters.I like Mai but I'm sick of guest fighters in every fucking fighter, before you add something like that add a good chunk of legacy characters first.
>>738978120You are more or less incapable of reading, aren't you?
>>738978262Ah yes, Adderall my beloved.
>>738976765Evo brazil soon brother.I wonder what going be the excuse.>>738976951But 98 is good, on top of being far more balanced.
>>738978336Actually, he's better than average for the smash people. Consider what level of stupid you need to be to openly promote modded switches and emulators in tournaments and expecting the Ninjas to be down with it.
>>738978293>before you add something like that add a good chunk of legacy characters firstToo late for that all thanks to this guy.
>smashfags openly fellating nintendo in a fighting game threadYou don't belong here
>>738978790What the fuck is this retard going on about here?
I am getting filtered bros. I cant combo into knockdown with millia to save my fucking life much less get a hit with hdisk. How do people do this shit? I am slow to follow up and they airtech through my move and hit me for free so often.
>>738978716>98 is so balanced>only 5 characters get used
>>738979620Which game
>>738979620what game? Assuming not strive since you said air tech.Millia's knockdowns are so strong her access to them is a bit more limited than most characters. Generally you want to get a c.S>2H launch into air combo and then end in Pin, but if you get a farther range hit you won't be able to. If you're not too far you can go 5H>2D and then either roll>disk or dash>disk, but if you're far enough away that the 2D will whiff, like if you landed a poke with f.S you need to spend 50 meter if you want a knockdown. Get used to doing f.S RRC dash up c.S>2H, that's important in either game.
>>738947978This fucking guy right here.
>>738970571DOA5
I am a diehard Nintendy with over 90 Switch 1 and 2 games and I do not consider Smash a real fighting game. It's a separate thing.
>>738979769>>738979912+REverything demands so much precision in this game.My friend plays baiken and the only times I can finish a combo are if he misses the tech and getting air2H or bad moon to connect all the way down is difficult. It is hard to recognize your positions in the air to know how to fix the combo midway through. And I cant autopilot some easy blockstring with lots of time to decide what to do on the ground.
Just hit Master rank in SF6 after 600 hours of playtime. I think I'm ready to go pro
>>738951359Reminder that a fighting game of cute alpacas and unicorns is a far better fighting game than that kuso.>>738966082I have my guess and I hope you like it.
>>738980486Millia has a lot of character specific shit you need to know if you want to get decent damage and the knockdown but if want something simple, clS, 2H, (neutral jump) jS, jH (airdash) j2H works on most characters
>>738979741Still more than chun yun fighter 3.Also vanilla and UM are different games.
>>738979976Coolest wagie I know.
>>738980486Yeah +r is just fucking hard and Millia is a character that is pretty rough to play at low levels even if she's insane at high levels, hell even high level players drop shit constantly. Sometimes rather than finishing a combo the best thing to do is just accept you're going to drop and do an air reset, air techs are vulnerable to throws before they become actionable so with a little practice you can just jump and grab them instantly as they tech, or wait and 6P them from the ground etc. Try doing more 5H>2D>disk even if you could try an air combo, the damage adds up and the consistency is nice, and don't feel like you have to do the double airdash routes every time, a single j.S>j.H>airdash j.2H is usually pretty reliable for knocking down.S Pin and air FB disk can both save combos that are going to drop if you recognize your height is weird, they have so much hitstun you can usually find a way into 6H after landing one, good if you really want to push for the corner but aren't sure you can complete the normal combo. Against Baiken do a lot of jump cancel>throw pin shit or random rolls during pressure, it low profiles all her guard cancels and is a decent reaction check since you can just grab them if they're not on the ball. If you can't do TK bad moon it is really worth spending some time grinding it out, especially if you fight baiken a lot. They can't guard cancel unless they block correctly first. 6K works too in some situations but not off like c.S or 2S, the ability to high/low off any jump cancellable normal is a pretty big part of her pressure.
watching brazillian kof2002um tournaments is some of the most psycho gameplay you'll ever see. i'm excited for evo brazil for this reason alone
>>738981638Share with the class, now I want to watch too.
>>738980486>My friend plays baiken and the only times I can finish a combo are if he misses the tech and getting air2H Missed that part. Baiken is a bitch to combo.you have to add a forward jump jK instead of jS to >>738981151 and delay the j2H as much as you can. Also make sure when you get the knockdown you do 2366H so the disk is actually on top of them
>>738981652its a little hard to find good vods because i don't speak portugese, i just stumbled upon a tournament on twitch one day but heres a showmatch i found on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YKwOuyLXBI
>>738981151I have trouble getting this consistent against baiken there are so many points to mess it up. How exactly it started, did I have run momentum. the timing of each air normal, the airdash, delaying the air2H to get it to connect all the way down.This "simple" combo being so difficult and inconsistent frustrates me to no end.And this is just training mode. Actually getting the hit in a match against Baiken is so scary. I might as well be praying he closes his eyes.>>738981531>S Pin and air FB disk can both save combos that are going to drop if you recognize your height is weirdI must not be doing it fast enough because pin never hits before they can airtech.>>738981531>do a lot of jump cancel>throw pin shit or random rolls during pressurdamn I didn't realize fS was jump cancelable
>>738981790That'll doThanks m8
>>738981784If you're feeling nice you can try this too but it's hard
>>738981790KOF channels are mostly China, Korea, SA and Mexico matches.You rarely see euros or burgers there. Also Jwong got rekt.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrvpx9h_LW0
Anyone else seen these Korean KoF '98 vids?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkEafPSHiHgI thought the editing was the funniest shit for a little while
>>738932892Character knowledge. Once you know the opponent’s moves then you know which ones they are basically going to do and so you can then try to anticipate only a few moves instead of a lot.
>LA PODRIDAWhen exactly did Mexicans turn on KoF 2002? And why?
>>738983081>Buy some expensive arcade cab that may or not pay itself or 1 cheap magic plus neo geo cart.
will tokon kill strive?
>>738983532>DNF will kill strive>Granblue will kill strive>Twi lumina will kill strive>MK1 will kill strive>UNI2 will kill strive>Tokon will kill striveI'm tired boss...
Strive is immortal
>>738970571+R and BBCF
>>738985105>BBCF Blazblue is done dirty with the acronyms....
>>738985152I only played CentralFiction so that's what I said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDFAb1BG0vo
>it's almost 10 years since MvCI got announced>the only Marvel related thing we got since is Tokon, which is super ass mechanicallythe dream is dead Mahvel bros...
>>738985662the dream is more alive than ever before Mahvel bros.
>its fun dude who cares if it's garbage and dead>its super le omega le fun dude i swear it's fun it's mahvel baby chimichanga for casual omg yas!!>buy the snake oil a million easily impressed retards already did>fighting games are THRIVING and not dead!!
>>738985662Let's be absolutely honest here>SF dead>SF6 is anti-fighting games , basically garbage>Tekken 8 is dead>Tekken 8 is anti-3D fighting games, basically garbage>Strive is anti Guilty gear>every other game that's not kof 98 and third strike on fightcade has no playerbaseYO LETS GOOOOOOOOFUN GAMES ARE FUNPLEASE MORE GAMES FOR PEOPLE THAT HATE FIGHTING GAMES MORE MORE MOAR MOAR MOAR
>>738985838Two week old game damn.
>>738975443Nero will return at some point but mark my words, it's gonna be as awful as the giant, glowing Arcueid nonsense.Nasu's need to up the stakes after FGO is gonna fuck up everything
>>738975832Strive Axl or old Axl?Because old Axl has fullscreen anti airs leading into fucked up damage and he can make you block for half an eternity with some meter.
>>738973945>has to wait for lvl2 for any kind of invincible reversalIt also whiffs on crouchers and it's jank as fuckFor example he should have a really good answer to Alex's prowler stance oki because it hits his hop and lariatBut actually it only does one hit on Lariat, and because Alex is in a crouching state, the rest whiffs and Dhalsim is something like -30
>>738985894You're not even a boomer gamer. You are just ball-less complainer cuck.
>>738974094This is the worst redesign ive ever seen in my life and it makes me want to watch women rekt threads all day and night
>>738964856Why does Reddit hate the Saudis again? I thought they loved Muslims.
>>738987051If the young should be the first ones to rebel, shame they are nothing but stupid goycattle.
>>738987345Well you wanna play 3S, SF4 or SFV?? We can play T7 or XRD too.
>>738987425>dead discord gamesThe only dead game i'm willing to play is Tekken 6, but old games are old and rancid. The future should've been better, more complex, more fun.
>>738986359>it's gonna be as awful as the giant, glowing Arcueid nonsenseKinda inevitable because Nrvnqsr is suppose to be pretty busted himself lore-wise. Only reason he never showed what he's capable of was due to Tohno making him lose his cool and act retarded.
>>738987505Thanks for proving me you are a bell-less complainer cuck.
>>738987649Thanks for proving me that you are a ball-less indian dicksucker and that you support the enshittification of the genre and the industry. Hey don't forget to pay full price for that sick early access ($70) + Tip ($10 every year) gotta get them sick ass costumes oh my science.
>>738987726Go be racist somewhere
Hey and don't forget to buy Astrobot, Mixtape, Stray , E33. Those games are fucking SIIIIIIIIIIIIIICKlove e33 and mixtape songs fucking pog dude incredible indy gamesSpeaking of i need to buy the new game Underwatica 2 HOLY FWAAAARK everyone is paying early access and my favorite streamer fucking LOVES IT (i will ignore that the company got boughted out and they fired everyone and replaced them with Indians and AI xD). We are living in the golden age of Fighting games.>>738987848That all fucking loser? i'm not even racist.
>>738987885Fuck off from derailing the thread nazi
>>738987980Are you a bot? The fuck is going on? Completely nonsensical reply.
>>738983532Yup. Time to prove once and for all that soivers are just bandwagoners who will hop on to the new shiny thing. Meanwhile Xrd and +R will soar with their small but loyal and welcoming communities.
>>738970571Strive had a good balance between being able to do shit and not needing obscure esoteric knowledge, +R has way more shit to lab but a lot of it gets too specificSF6 still has the best training mode around, but there's fuckall interesting to lab
>>738988207Is it really that bad that fighting games cater to fighting game players? Normies care about Single players, they don't give a shit about..... oh yeah DLC, can't stop milking the fucking cow, doesn't matter if it's rotten, dead, and rancid, gotta milk the fucking cow
I think he's broken.
I’m gay.
raped genre
>Strive had a good balance between being able to do shit and not needing obscure esoteric knowledge, +R has way more shit to lab but a lot of it gets too specificLiteral Selling point.How many more of these you have Indian friend? Post one about modern controls.
>>738988207Strive is so good modern Fighting Game. Literal Phoenix with 2.0. Beats SF6 out of the sky any day. Every Fighting Game needs to take notes from -Stive-
>>738940353I can't wait to become the most annoying motherfucker in my area
>>738947978>who are the objectively coolest fightan characters of all time.Whenever I think about this I'm pretty sure SNK has made the most cool characters than any other company. Especially on the male side, it's not even close. SNK has that shit on lock.
>>738947978Le white void
>>738989310i think its tekken personally, they have some real heaters in that series
Man, Tekken 8 makes me so mad but there's an inherent lure to Tekken that I can't seem to shake.I don't think any fighting game I've played feels as good when something you set up works out than in Tekken.
>>738989840SNK has more quantity than Namco in terms of cool characters. I think Namco has some huge Quality members though but SNK has them too
>>738980486FB disc is one of the most unfair things in the world and you know it
>>738989694Le cold steel
>>738989961It's crazy just how effortlessly cool and expressive the old 2000s KOF animations wereI think KOF2002 is still my most played fighter just based on how much time I spent playing with my friends
>>738990291early 2000s kof and SF Alpha have the best sprites of all time. i'm partial to the alpha sprites personally, they look so fucking good
>>738976341genuinely, why do smashfags still play ultimate?i get wanting to cling to something you used to enjoy but it's been way overif they really wanted to stick it to nintendo, they would find a new game that they actually have fun playing
>>738990291Between 98UM and 2002UM I think there's no better or worse, they're equal. I started with KOF98 on the Dreamcast as my entry to the series and fell in love with so many character designs in the series. Although, I will say the biggest sin they ever committed was putting Vanessa in sandals. That still triggers me today. Her original design was peak. So peak that even Capcom had to copy it - C Viper
>>738947978lilith, go watch evo japan vsav top 8 if you havent
>>738989897I'm genuinely glad they finally fumbled enough that it dispelled the black magic Harada cast upon me. I hope the same for you one day.
>>738990871Tekken has never been my favorite fighting game in any category, I just built up more talent at playing it than any other.Although my favorite fighting series seems to be in a bad place now so I don't know what is good anymore.
>>738989897It's not there anymore man, let it go or join the circus*honk honk*
watching justin wong and yipes play mvc2 randoms
>>738970571VF5SC2
>>738970571usf4 despite the training mode being ASS
>>738990748>So peak that even Capcom had to copy it - C ViperNow that I think about it the SF4U newcomers really don't have that crazy "international wackos" feel besides like El FuerteCViper, Juri, Abel, and Rufus all kinda feel like SNK-ish in their stylings
>>738989897Nothing in Tekken will ever feel as good as grabbing a burst.
>>738993501Don't forget Juri.
>>738987726Patil? Singh? Kumar? Pinjari? I am not even reading so much as a trickle of Chinese, Korean or Japanese sounding surname God fucking damn. What the hell is this insane nepo-baby shit?!
>>738989897I know what you mean, Tekken is amazing if you ignore the fact that it fucking sucks
>>738994653That's crazy China is one of the few countries that is standing up against America and the pedophile jew order and you are still crying about them. You would rather self-destruct the island because you are butthurt that the Chinese are currently excelling at everything that japan used to excel at.You almost made me believe you were japanese. Chinese is the new samurai. Japan is the new jeet and americans lapdog, what a sad and cuntish way to go, coward.
>>738987726>>738994653So I was curious and looked up the credits on google and I saw a lot of Japanese names, so I’m wondering why this is different https://www.mobygames.com/game/203910/street-fighter-6/credits/playstation-5/
>>738994862seems they just did the grunt work
>>738994862wut? they are the same credits https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJD_ytxcD_4>>738995015no no no you don't understand nigga, art, sound, motion, rigging is not grunt work. Ctrl + F "Access Games" now check the placement of your scrollbar. All those studios made the game. Capcom Japan, which is mostly VAs, World Tour garbage and Producers. The game is technically more outsourced than it actually is japanese.
>>738994832
>>738951407>>738949158I want her to carry my offspring.
>>738995174For example, character artists: Nobumasa Kagawa, Kensuke Makita, Gin Nakahira, Lee Hansol, Daisuke Ueno, Hussein Zakariya, Taichi Ito, Takahiro Oranaka, Hiroyuki Konta, Yoshikazu Kozono, Yuichiro Fujita, Elie Setbon, Takashi Anamura, Sun Yifei, Toko Takayama, Yuki Oda, Ayumu Nishino, Tetsushi Kuramoto, Yuto Okutomi, Yuji Yamamoto, Yuji Takemura, Jimoon Woo, Makoto Kondo, Chihiro Fujita, Kaori Takahashi, Eri Pellet, Sanami Maeda, Moeri Abe, Seokmin Jin, Tamane Miyachi, Germaine Tan, Saori Sakota, Hitoshi Igarashi, Tomohiko Ohsumi, Shunya Shike, Katsuhiro Nakano (Yu Ten), Mitsunori Yoshida, Sho Sakai, Kazuhisa Inuzuka, Ryusei Noro, Takuro Miyamoto, Eiko Furiya, Momoko AsaiI’m not exactly defending sf6 as much as I’m wondering why this website seems to disagree with the idea it’s not made by Japanese teams
>>738994862Because the pic is just the outsourcing studio. That same studio works on other jap games, like Elden Ring for instance
>>738995278They Zbrushed the details on the models and made sure they were correct, there's a video where they talk about the process. But yeah nah it's fucking obvious that most games these days are full of jeet trash and SF6 is no exception.>>7389951758 million jeets + mosque + even more as we speak, there's 2 little india in Tokyo now, saitama and kabukicho. Yes they are that butthurt about china
>>738994832>You almost made me believe you were japaneseWhen the fucking hell did i claim that I am japanese?
Mu 12 has been fun, nobody knows how to fight her. Think I’m going to go back to trying to learn Rachel now.
>>738994823Are you calling me a retard with terrible taste?
>>738996132Not really. I like most Tekken games. I do think there are many retards who like Tekken though, particularly the people who play Tekken 8 while complaining that it sucks all the time, while being a part of its playerbase and therefore actively supporting a game that sucks and should be killed off.
>>738932972their current 3D graphics era is a mile behind competitors
Why is Makoto like this? Silly squirrel. You can't jump out the ring like that.
GARAXIAN IMPAKTO
>>738996731Nigga thats nuts
>>738996731kino
What do you guys think of the guest character trend in fighting gamesI kind of hate it and am dreading the possibility of the 4th character in Tekken season 3 being a guest
>>738988207Elphelt is so fucking fun to play man, I love her.Some of her attack animations always make me kek, like 2D or her air grab.
>>738998317Can't even count which fighting game franchise other than Virtua Fighter that hasn't have a guest character YET. >Melty Bl-SHUT UP. They're still guest characters despite Nasuverse bullshits.
>>738933078In a way I suppose you can equate it with chess a little. Once you reach the highest levels you're no longer thinking about reacting to the individual move but watching out for the overall setup. There are only a certain amount of options open at any given time and once you recognise them you can react without even really thinking about it. For example a jump at a certain time could probably tell you where to block because you know it leads into combo A or C.You'll recognise patterns automatically and calculate where they will go and end up and so it becomes less about reaction times and more about memory.
>>738998317I like guest characters, especially if they are a hot girl.The only exceptions I can think of are Ronaldo and Ganacci because they are just real world people and that does feel super retarded.Something like Negan in Tekken 7 was also dumb but he's funny as fuck so in the end I didn't mind.
Some moves are simply not reactable.
>>738998317As long it doesn't waste like half or a third of the roster and it's well made I'm fine with it.
>>738998317I don’t mind if it’s another fighting game character. Akuma in Tekken and Terry in sf for example. It gets a bit egregious when it’s random stuff like Lucy in strive. It gets really bad when it’s random celebrities like Ronaldo in cotw.
>>738998317Don't care for them unless they have a really unique gimmick reflecting their home series.I'm glad UNI hasn't gotten more of them since 2013. Sion and Akatfags don't deserve shit.
>>738998434I like how they've made her less braindead with the stagger on grounded Rekka S(2) as compensation for losing HKD on Rekka HKind of a huge buff, the throw oki is really good, and if you send it you can get sideswaps from counterhit 2Ks>RekkaAlso love the charged fireball, stealing turns by mixing up 5H>5HH/236S/H and 5H>charged 236S/H is underrated
>Meltyfags are apparently throwing a shitfit about getting an all-day Friday timeslot for its entire tournament at Combo Breaker>Get made a laughingstock by the rest of the games at Combo BreakerLaugh at the meltyfags
>>738999764Why though? What makes Friday being a bad day?
>>738998317I'm really tired of it
>>738999808>Why thoughThat's what everyone else is asking.>What makes Friday being a bad day?They apparently don't like having their entire tournament being done in a day because of the potential conflicts with other tournaments starting that day, as if other games haven't gone through this before.
>>738999764Who let meltyfags out of the toilet stalls
The fg redpills yall aint ready for:>motions need to go>combos need to be short and easy>block should be a button>throws shouldnt exist>hard knockdowns and oki shouldnt exist>no one likes zoners and grapplers its time for them to go
>>739001127You are either in your mid 40s or 15
>>739001127>hard knockdowns and oki shouldnt existWut why
Major tourneys should only hold the current big 3 fighters. The other games are too dead, and the fan bases are full of troons, bunch of whiny, entitled, frauds who dont actually play.Melty literally has 10 people in game right now and theyre mad they only have 1 day fuck these dumb niggers
>>739001127fighters are already raped and unplayable you cant really make them worse than they are.
>>739001127Play me in soku or any samsho now or you will die in your sleep for spreading fake opinions
The fg redpills yall aint ready for:>we need more lolis>loli zoners
>>738932972Because the REAL SNK died in 2003.
>>739001320my exact thoughts, at this point it makes no difference
>>739001127you forgot removing i-frames and hitboxesthey need to go
>>738999764>meltyfags>when it's literally just one guy who apologized anywayLeave the melty community alone, they're about to get Lumina 2 inflicted on them.
>>739001350Also unironically more loli shotos for some reason most lolis are hard as fuck to play
>>738943779Anon... THAT is the REASON it'd make sense.Cross promotion? Ever heard of it???
>>739001350But that only produces posers.
>>739001429The lolis are always 200iq execution beast setplay characters to punish degenerates. Seems fair
>twomina get announced>my xitter reel is spamed with remedial lumina clips when i just want to collect images of tsukihime girlsGET THESE SORRY ASS NIGGAS OUT OF HERE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkrSk4FjLJw broski is crashing out over mai level 1
where can i watch dreamhack atlanta
>>738995950If noel wouldnt have the most anoying voice on the planet i would also play her
>>738934696Paaacked.
wheres mr. karate
>>739002350Damn C. Viper is fucking ugly in that game.
>>739004146wrong, shes sexo
>>739001423It couldn't be any worse than how MBTL is right now.
>>738998317I don't mind if it's something unique and interesting. But most of the times it's not.Also I don't want to think about Street Fighter fandom state if rumors about Tifa are true.
>>739002986Watch idoms steam
Please tell me there is a hope...
>>739004452Ryougi was added to MB because she still had movies to sell. KnK is kinda over so I'm willing to bet Soujuro and Alice over Ryougi because Mahoyo is the movie they want to sell now.But in Ryougi's favor, they can just rework her basic sprite animations into the new game.
>>738932892you eat shit for a billion hours and maybe you'll be able to react to that one that that always gets you.
Tekken 9 waiting room
>>739001127>combos need to be short and easyKOF universal combo structure is normal, normal, command, special and have been like that since forever. Only magic series is more intuitive.
>>739005201Those Max Mode cancels and specials > supers cancels from the 2nd character onward already scare off the beginners from KoF.
>>739001127Forgot to add>chip shouldn't kill
>>739005376>chip shouldn't killjust learn the matchup bro
>>738998317Tekkucks deserve it.
Reminder niggers like to generalize combo length in anime fighters as being long meanwhile they sit through 10 - 15 seconds of a cinematic cutscene and that 10 - 15 seconds is just the cutscene not the even combo that lead into it in their baby games
>>739005376But that's my function...
My preferable combo time?Hokuto no Ken.
>>739001127Go back to 2KXO
>>739005301Not everyone is Vanessa/Angel that hitconfirms into some 90% shit, besides, most free cancel combos are just loops.I don't see anyone complaining about XI shifts that actually require finesse.
>>739005851>don't see anyone complaining about XI shifts that actually require finesse.Because no one plays that garbage shit nigga lmao you dont hear anyone taking about kodxi ever lmao
>>739005201Kof combos are long as hell, the wikis are full of combos to learn, hops and maxmode complicate things dramatically harder, and then you have to learn 3 fucking characters. Magic series is shit because its too easy, theyre all executed the same way, and are usually just crouch lk into a medium into sweep, add or subtract a medium based on the spacing. And its not exactly intuitive to have to learn lp > lk > mp > mk > hp > hk, they only work because of the cancel system. A universal concept that is already the back bone of fighting games, is hitstun. If the opponent is in hitstun, you can still hit them. Thats easier to under stand, allows for more complexity while still being short. Just add a bit of input buffer and youre good. Magic series is contradictory to hit stun based combos because you would never have enough hitstun off a light to combo into a heavier attack. It feels fundamentally wrong, because it is. And the commercial failure of anime games is a testament to this. A juggle system is also good since you know immediately hey i just have to hit them while theyre in the air and i can still combo them. I think a bit of auto combo makes sense as well since people pick up fighters and immediately want to mash the buttons.
Haute 42 made a dedicated traditional stick:https://youtu.be/vxQCH_cqqlI?si=lDM9Q1U-h_gxRtsy
>>739005851I mean every anchor Iori combo is the same with full resources.
>>739005612>Chip damage the characterMori should be ashamed for creating such a menace.
optimal combo length is two hits (to confirm) into special.anything past that is nonsense.
>>739006008>>739001172
>>739006140no
>>739006008You dont play FGs just go back Overwatch
>>739005989He needs it, he has 1 (uno) singular overhead that can't even air to ground.
>>739006340I have over 3000 hours in one game alone.
>>739006395And which game is that
>>739006457SFV of course. Must be over 8k in the whole franchise at this point and would be even more if SF6 wasnt garbage.
>>738962568Agreed, sluts that act like carefree women children aren't cool or badass.
>>739006528There are more to fighting games than just SF
>>739006528When someone combos into VT activation into more hits into super, do you start crying?
>>739005964A thicker version that lets me swap to traditional joysticks would be nice. I like that it has thumbsticks.
>>738947978
>>739006624wrong.>>739006767those tend to be the lamest triggers.
>>739006528>worst SFyikes.
>>739006825Uh...>>739005964Nice but better wait for revision.
>>738977817He'll no, Chizuru is like the Karen of snk and very posh lame. Mai is basically the iconic heroine sex symbol and famous symbol for snks pride for the company, even more than Terry and maybe Iori.
>>739006528Having ""8000h"" without combos must suck ass
>>739006968>the most braindead character after RyuI wish she was never added.
>>738990291>Kyo doing a generic edgy/cocky win pose>Terry is still more Chad and famous than hin
>>739006920that would be SF6, followed by SF3.>>739006996I have combos though.
>>739007484>6 secondsToo long
>>738989961>Namco/SNKI like how Mitsurugi is basically "what if we took Haohmaru and made him less cool" and he's still badass because Haohmaru is just that cool
>>739007617I agree.
>>739005954>Auto combosThat makes whole situation worse because people would just find ways to link whatever for bigger combos. Also combos mean jackshit if retards don't learn whole neutral-punish game.
>>738977828Keep suckin saudi cock snk slopper. Snk lost.
Why is Kula popular? Don't know anything about SNK fandom.
>>739007990>Why rival character is popularNo idea. But I'm more annoyed with her getting more retarded every new game.
>>73900799014 years old
I'm still practicing Hazama BnBs. I can land the 66 5B like half the time now, but it still makes me hate my life. 214D~A 666C 5D 2C (cancel) 5C 3C chain shit is more fun and comfortable, reminds me of my free 4k CPEx combos.
>>739008229I have it at a 70% success rate.
>>739008332Nice, that's pretty much what I'm practicing.
>>739007716Cant learn neutral punish game if ur getting raped non stop.
>>739008436I took a hilariously long break from Hazama but I've recently gone back to try and get more practice in after playing a different game. It's a bit less annoying but still not at 100%
>>739008624Yeah for me it's been like 4 years since I played and that was just a casual session with a friend, probably closer to 10 since I actually sat down and labbed combos. I'll get back into it, I'm doing a bit of practice every day.
>>739008229>>739008332The best tip I can give to get more consistent with it is to pinpoint the buffer window during the recovery of 214B~66B and just grind away at it until it becomes second nature to buffer it 5 frames ahead of you being actionable.
>>739008960Yeah, I've been watching for the point in the animation where that happens, I think it's roughly about when he's landing from the 214B. Does help to keep aiming for one particular moment.
>>739006528unfathomly based, only real fighting game player in the thread
>>739008507There is ton of fightans stripped to the very basics, but I guess it don't matter since they lack "hoype".
>>739005954>and then you have to learn 3 fucking charactersWhy doesn't anyone bring this up when discussing Mahvel?
>>739009325Marvel is for niggers who mash and have no idea how hard the game actually is
Forgot to add that I play '98 and find MVC2 more overwhelming >>739009325
>>739009325Marvel is like 3S but it has only 3 characters.If you wanna meme you can do Cable or Iron Man Infinite team
>>739009325Because marvel has characters people give more of a shit about(capcom and marvel characters), most characters have like 5 moves max, lets you switch to whatever character you want whenever you want while you use a character, and the marvel games both 3d and 2d look more appealing than snk games to the majority of people. With the exception of mvci of course.
>>739010158>Lets you switch to whatever character you want whenever you wantKOF XI and is even less restrictive than mahvel or most tag fighters.
>>739010325Kof xi is not the entire series and there is still the other things mentioned like the games just not having characters to draw people in or being that visually appealing for most. Also I forgot to mention people just don't give a damn about how kof plays in it's entirety 1v1 or not.
>>739005201that's only 98 and some characters in 02you can sort of get away with playing XI that way but you're still leaving money on the table by not doing tag team combosxiii-xv you'll just get outpaced in damage even if you're outplaying the other guy
people are talking about kof, does anybody want to play? i'm kind of burned out on XV but i'll play any other one
>>739005954>Kof combos are long as helldepends on the game but yes>the wikis are full of combos to learntrue although most are impractical and are just there because they're possible>hops and maxmode complicate things dramatically hardernot really>and then you have to learn 3 fucking characters.kof characters are simple and mostly have the same gameplan and win conditions
>>739007451Kyo rekka 2hard you gotta understand
>>739008128>>739008174Kula is made for exclusive Fat old balding middle aged Ojisan sex.
>Ton of fighters have bigger entry barrier like +R or even mahvel itself>Yet for some reason KOF have some arcane magic that prevents anyone not brown or asian from playing itOkay.
>>739011074bump
>>739011535>Roster is bloated>Designs are from the 90s and cater to people from that age>There's hardly ANYTHING new added with each new entry which is good for oldfags but does nothing to bring in new peopleThere's nothing wrong with catering the oldest of oldfags but you can't be surprised there aren't more people flocking to it.No, I don't care if you think ranbus look cool. They look lazy in 3D when they were at least something cool to look at during the sprite era.
>>739011784what do you think should they add
>>738969346>rivalry between Tekkenfags and SFagsI'm saying this as unbiased as possible, Tekken only thrives when Street Fighter isn't around. It happened with Tekken 3 because nobody wanted SF3 and again with Tekken 7 when Capcom released that shit heap called Street Fighter V. All other times Tekkenfags believe they have a rivalry with SFags, but they don't and the latter don't even give a fuck.>Why don't they include Smash into this competetion?Because Smashfags exists in a vacuum where they ostracize literally every community in every way possible.
>>739011847I'm not interested enough to provide a meaningful response. KoF is stuck in its ways, for better and for worse. It's up to KoFfags to say whether they want things to change or not.
>>739011784>>739011847I'll give you that XIV and XV were pretty iterative but XIII (and XII lol) both shook things up a decent bit to no particular avail. and that's just the modern era, adding assist and tag team mechanics didn't do much for it back in the day
>>739011847ronaldo
KoF rosters are so big, even moreso than SF and anime fighters, that they could literally get away with having entire season passes with no new characters selling you back your mains.What a nightmare.
>>739012128didn't sf6 just have a season pass that did that
>>739012128Reminds me that XIV has the highest number of newcomers in the franchise till this day. Guess that's where the budget goes for the game.
>>739012128I miss XIII Mai. Exposed back ftw.
>>739012128Recent ish entries have ton of newcomers. Dream matches would be the usual everyone is here game but SNK stopped making those for whatever reason.
>>739011074>people keep talking about kof like they know anything about it BUT STILL WON'T FUCKING PLAY ME
>>739011074Post UM room.I suck but better than nothing.
>>739012790fine with me. 98 or 02?
>>739007629Haohmaru is kinda goofy tho
>>739011219Busta Wolf > Rekka
>>73901284702
>>739012128>Posting old school boomer fap fuel fighting girl who is a joke of a character in personality and gameplay
>>739013070steam://joinlobby/222440/109775240949957764/765611981923262674 slots, anyone is free to join for as long as this thread is alive. i have about half an hour plus change
>>739013110>posting sonic
>>739005598I blame Blazblue Calamity Trigger for this meme. It was Capfag's first dip into anime fighters, or at least, seeing a modern anime fighter in the spotlight. The game has a ton of hitstop on each and every attack making combos much much longer than in the updated games. It also didn't have the very offense mechanics in the newer games like Active Flow and Overdrive.
>>739013212>Posting a nobody
>>739013669What are sonicfags even fucking doing in a fighting game thread.Smash peripheries?
furrfags seek death
>>739013212Thanks to KoF XIII I can pretend that those thighs are actually on-model for Athena.
KOF XIII is the most Hip-"damn... this is the cool one"-ster game in the history of fighting game. XIII is even more hipster than 3rd Strike at this point. Games no one played suddenly gaining popularity after people tried to tell you several times. Now all the talk about XIII is "muh trail combo hard" That's how you know it's hipsters. people in this thread playing 98 and 02 but no one making the Rollback XIII rooms lol. Game has Rollback and still no play. inb4 "but muh rollback was broken" nigga that been fix that shit lmao
