>that moment in your New Vegas playthrough where you have to get through the one DLC you hate for completionist's sake
>>738933257>most hated>Honest Hearts dlcI dont remember anything, i dont want to remember anything, just kill everything that shoots
>>738933257Old World Blues is bad, but Dead Money is worse.
>>738933257I'm glad I'm not the only one who isn't a fan of OWB. I'm not sure what it is but it just feels awful to navigate, there are only like 3 enemy types, and none of the exploration feels rewarding. Although >>738934848 I personally like DM more because at least it is different.
>>738933257>Autismo makes me explore every area and do every quest to get the best unskippable ending that I don't even and just go to the bathroom or eat something for a few minutes>Done this every single playthrough (more than one hundred times)How could I be such a mentally ill retard who hates himself that much?
>>738934848dead money is the best written DLC put into the worst mechanical experience in the game. OWB probably plays the best, but the map isn't very interesting to explore. I basically always go into lonesome road though for the riot armor, unless I'm doing a power armor build.
>>738934848i went throught dead money once and never again, horrible DLC
>completeing OWB without going back to the mojave for Ressources
>>738933257I always felt like the enemy scaling was bunk in Old World Blues. Those fucking robo-radscorpions were complete bullet sponges and fucking ass to get around
>>738933257Honestly I liked them all, but robo scorpions are annoying.
>>738933257Honest Hearts is the worst by far, though every DLC in 3 outside of The Pitt is horrendous dogshit. Worst offenders being Point Lookout for being large, boring, and completely out of character for the series, and especially Zeta, for just being uniformly awful.
>>738935078>worst mechanical experience in the gameMechanically DM is genius but the tradeoff of making it mechanically consistent between players is it removes a lot of build variety.
>>738933257First time I played NV was on console and I never got the DLC. Then I got it on pc and installed all the visual mods which took a long time because everything kept breaking. By the time I was done I didnt even want to play anymore.
all dlcs are good and enjoyablei don't get the idea of pitting one against the other when they all play so differently. I go back to the DLCs more than the base game because I enjoy them more
>>738935564it's a decent idea with poor execution, I think. like you said it basically obliterates differences in builds which is a big thing to ignore in this game, and the enemies aren't all that distinct from regular enemies except the notion that you just gotta blow up a limb for them to stay down. all the outdoor maps look the same the too, which can make exploration really grating. Dead Money but in something like Dishonored with the level design and production of that game would've been a huge hit, but within the skeleton of NV it leaves alot to be desired.
>>738935761same. i like the variety of environments. it really opens up the world and makes you wonder what else is out there.
>>738935564>>738935078>mechanical experience>having to actually engage with challenge instead of roflstomping with your super duper pooper level 50 gun runners arsehole gear and modded super soakers BADAmazing how it's universally only shitters bad at videogames who hate Dead Money and whined at obsidian until they buckled and had every other dlc let you keep your endgame cheat gear.
>>738935753>mods which took a long time because everything kept breaking. By the time I was done I didnt even want to play anymore.Fallout expirence in a Nutshell
>>738935935honestly dm has the problem of almost becoming too easy. if you explore you get so many chips and shit to sell for chips you'll be rolling in weapons and drugs. that said i t hink it's fine because you want to accommodate for players of various skill level and interest in exploration
>>738933257Old World Blues is objectively the best DLC and very good.The one bad was Honest Hearts, which feels like they finished the funds and had to stop the development/writing. Too bad because Honest Hearts had a good premise, but needed much more work.
>>738935935engage in what challenge? you can go into the DLC with 0 unarmed and use the beartrap fist and kill every enemy no problem. you talking about the "challenge" of looking for radios? there is no build identity for DM because the entire thing is balanced around being able to use anything and everything you find. it's more of an immersive sim that way, which is why I say Dead Money would be a very good level in dishonored, but just isn't very good in new vegas.
>>738936191yeah hh just needed more stuff to do. ends too quickly. the journey there with the caravan also needed to be a thing so we could see the 80s and get to know the caravan members better before they're all killed off
>>738936238Translation:>VGH I have to actually PLAY the game and can't just skip everything with speech checks>wtf why is passing a speech check against dean domino not letting me effortlessly win the game
>>738936348Do you even comprehend the point you're arguing against
>>738936393he wants to fight someone who is mad about the game stripping your equipment and is desperately trying to project that onto anyone he can, when neither me or the other anon had even once mentioned it. just looking for negative attention from internet strangers
>>738936393>MUH BUILD VARIETY>you can get through it regardless of build because they didn't funnel you into needing a specific build to complete it>BUT YOU CAN'T JUST SPEECHMAX THROUGH IT BRO
The issues with FNV DLCs are that either they let you bring gear from Vanilla game which makes the game too easy (Honest hearts, lonesome road) or it takes all your gear and you're stuck with the shit DLC exclusive gear (Old world blues, Dead money)A happy medium would be given like pre set mid vanilla game gear (Combat armor with full upgraded hunting rifle) then eventually discover and get awesome end of DLC weaponry.
>>738936485He's saying DM's design is at odds with the overall design of New Vegas, not that the design of DM is shit. I like DM specifically because of the even playing field it provides but I can see how someone that gets enjoyment out of build diversity would dislike it.You're a dope.
>>738936638>you're stuck with the shit DLC exclusive gearthe holo rifle is insanely good. bear trap fist is also good. OWB also doesn't take your gear, not quite sure where you got that from. Dead Money is the only one that does, and it gives you the best in slot energy weapon and a melee weapon custom made for killing the primary enemy type of the region.
>>738936638OWB doesn't take your gear and HH slashes your carry weight in half. LR not taking your gear away is fine I think since it's the last and most linear/combat focused of the four. HH is probably the best balance.
>>738936839Lonesome road not taking your stuff away is fine, it's basically the final megadungeon for the game. In retrospect I do like how the DLCs are split between explorable mini-regions, and dungeon crawls. LR as a dungeon crawl works alot better within the mechanics and framework of NV compared to Dead Money.
>>738936638dead money is so easy it lets everyone perma kill the ghost people with a spear knife or beartrap fist lol. hell if you have good luck you can crit and blow their heads smooth off or blow them up with explosives
>rick and morty writing>have to crawl through tight dungeons and kill the same enemies over and over again>main rewards are a shitty med armor that gets you addicted to medx and a minigun that runs on .44 for some fucking reasonIf OWB didn't give you a billion buffs for free + all the shit on the sink no ome would even bother with this DLC
>sneaking around outside, literally no enemies in sight>[CAUTION}
>Actually, my character would not investigate the satellite closely
>>738935294if you use energy they aren't bad and you can get elijah's LAER as a crutch but then the fucking skeletons become sponges if you do have an energy build
>>738933257I never try this because my modded playthroughs become too unstable by the time i've finished 2 DLCs. I can't do them all in 1 go, at least I haven't tried in over 10 yearsOpenFallout WHEN
>>738933257old world blues has some pretty nice items in it though
>>738935294>enter owb world space at level 20-something>third of my HP disappears immediately because some lobotomized retard owns a .45-70 somehow
>>738935294You were supposed to hit them with the pylon thing that does extra damage to robots you get from the big radar tower, also [spolier]jump on their explosions to cripple your limbs to get tough guy perk quicker[/spoiler]
>>738933257ALL NV DLCs are bad each in their own unique way.
>>738935294bro your armor piercing ammo?
Personally I hate DM more>bro I know it sucks to play this DLC but the writing is amazing!!!!>writing is one salty faggot being mad someone is more successful than him>said salty faggot will have a melty if you look at him wrong and will betray you later>Elijah's BRILLANT 10005002 BILLION IQ KEIKAKU HEIST is finding a vault with fart gas in it>the hardest part... is letting go... *does an exploit to get all gold bars for infinite money*
>>738937045i always liked LR's gameplay and how it did the bleak shithole aesthetic better than bethesda. but the story sucks ass after being hyped up in the last 3 DLCs so no one cares
>>738933257They’re all pretty good, most else is just seethe and cope
>>738937652I liked the gameplay
>>738933257It feels like /v/ just parrots this opinion to try to sound cool and fit in, because the only ever criticism is "uhm it's reddit" even though OWB came out in fucking 2011When in reality, even though HH has a ton of soul it's easily the most boring and tedious DLC of all. While contrarily, OWB is basically a giant end-game playground full of wacky shit, cool as fuck items and a goofy as shit but amusing cast.
>oneall NV DLC are shit
>>738938009Your post is Reddit fuckwit
>>738938009The .45 weapons and survivalist gear are cooler than any of the crap in OWB.
>>738938310depends on the build, the super heated fist and Elijah's LAER are both pretty cool. I also like cyberdog guns if I'm going big weapons.
>>738934848Dead Money is the only good DLC imo, yes the vanilla vanilla experience can be annoying with the Broken Ghost people and the collar mechanic but compared to every other DLC which has much more structural problems i.e:>Honest Heart's fetch quests and dumbly scaled tribals>OWB's tone and the Scorpions>Lonesome Road's hallway design that's only interesting to play in about one (1) sectionjust play with a sprint mod or the cover based stealth mod if you're getting filtered by Dead Money, pretty much all the DLC's should've stripped you of your toolset in order to have a much more refined experience>>738937760>i always liked LR's gameplay and how it did the bleak shithole aesthetic better than bethesdathe bleak shithole is the only reason I come back to it, there's something about the high road area that really tickles me just right.
>>738939260>the bleak shithole is the only reason I come back to it, there's something about the high road area that really tickles me just right.Not him but for me LR has a real sense of finality to it, like you're approaching the edge of the game world and the game itself. Something about a vague sense of "The End", be it narratively or spatially has always appealed to me for some reason.
>>738939260i like LR and crawling through toppled buildings, caves and highways was kino to methe closest the series ever got to being Metro
>>738935294My first time playing it I was retarded too and didn't realize the Proton Axes you find everywhere are basically overkill against the roboscropions
>>738933257there was no reason to make 4 DLCs, they were just copying the CoD map pack formula at the peak of its popularity. by the time you're finished with all 4 you can't even remember what kind of roleplay you were doing in the vanilla map.
>>738934848Dead Money is kino, haters are just filtered
>>738934962>there are only like 3 enemy types,WrongThere's roboscorpions, lobotomites, berserk robots, cazadors, nightstalkers, cyberdogs, the trauma suits, ghouls, spore carriers, spore plants, and my personal favorite, the LEGENDARY Bloatfly.There's even a tiny deathclaw if you have WW. Most enemies also have a tougher boss variant that drops a unique item.
>>738935294The game literally gives you multiple anti robot weapons to use against them, the sonic gun, the energy axes, the antennae, pulse grenades, and probably more I'm forgetting. If you had any trouble with them it's a literal skill issue. Lobotmites ambushing you with brush guns are a far bigger threat.
>>738937089If you have bloody mess, ghost people literally never get to use their gimmick because they burst into treats when you kill them
>>738933257i legit almost dropped new vegas because of owb the last time i played iti just hate the loot theme park format
>>738937265>finally get weapons that make .357 and .44 useful>bitch about it>b-but .44 still does dama-.357 is obsolete by level 10 because Obisidan are retarded and think the DT system was a good idea. .44 is something you end up getting so much of there's little point to keep it confined to piddly little 6 round cylinder guns that aren't worth using over all the .50 cal submachineguns and high powered rifles.
>>738933257Why do you hate OWB>inb4 its redditThat would mean Futurama, Venture Bros, and most scifi B movies from the 50s were also reddit.
>>738937265>rick and morty writingGo back
>>738942135I find that the K9000/Fido don't do enough damage per shot to justify feeding magnum ammo tonthem unless you have a lot saved up you want to get rid of. For .357 you just need to steal La Longue Carabine from the old sniper at McCarran. Sneak Headshots more than make up for .357's DT deficiencies. Plus you can use it to dispose of lightly armored trash..44 is still best out of a trail carbine.
>>738935078>dead money is the best written DLC put into the worst mechanical experience in the gameYou were so close. You're clearly just a guns only cuck seething over the limb destruction combat of the dlc. You would do better with a clean knife spear even with zero melee build investment.
