>game stops being fun after 10 hours>devs double down and make it even less funwhat kind of mental illness causes this?
>>738937139Devs don't care about players like that, they care about casuals
>>738937139>devs double down and make it even less funquick rundown?
>>738937790>here's the exact same picture, but smallerwhat a retard
>>738937662>Create a zombie survival game>Zombie part of it gets solved>Any attempt to upset that aspect gets met with hostility>Devs focus on what people can do while they are busy "surviving" in their bunker>Core gameplay is still barebones
>>738937662>quick rundown?I'm no lore expert but>focusing on pottery and basketweaving instead of NPCs>literally no zombie updates in a zombie game>general update speed and quality>recent beta update is fucked beyond belief, only recently got multiplayer working>main dev is a gigasperg whiny bitch (browses this site)
>>738937139>very rough and unpolished game gets a following>autistic Dev vision constantly clashes with what players are interested inif I nickel and so on
>>738937790Thanks doc
>>738937790danke herr doktor.>>738938098this nigga needs an extra dose.
>>738937139The dev's artistic vision becoming autistic vision. Saw it happen with C:DDA and now here
>>738937139>HE LP!Who is LP?
Some developers just hate their own game and the people that play it
>>738937139>new updatesThey toned down muscle fatigue more, it's still retarded but not quite as crippling once you get some skill and strength. Devs still hate small blades so if you want to use them you basically have to become a blacksmith and carver to have a steady supply of brittle knives to break off in the zombies. You also basically have to survive until spring if you want to farm now, plants have an internal killswitch that triggers if they sense the wrong season - farm animals if you want free food. They have an "Extinction" game mode too which hopefully will act as a sink for all the unemployed masochists that have been wrecking the standard game balance for literally years. It can be comfy and it's still taking stupid risks that will kill you.
>>738941789>hate their own game>megabonkqrd?
Is there an endgame? Is there a way to win? I've seen some YouTube videos and it seems to be people spending 12 hours straight reading in-game books until they can plant peas. They almost always end with the guy playing getting bored and finding a way to kill themselves in an "amusing" way...because the millions of views and upper middle class lifestyle still can't justify this shit
>>738942841>Is there a way to winNo. When you start the game it says "this is how you died". The end state is your character dies.
I loved b41, so many good times and the game is only interesting in multiplayer.I lament and mourn it.Rest in peace, grindy zombie game.
>>738937139>hl >ep
>>738938098NURSE!!
>>738937139Great game it just needs survivor AI that does emergent stuff. Befriends you, scared of you, attacks you, befriends and then betrays you, etc. I want to recreate zombie movies but without human survivors it’s only half complete to me
>>738937139Literally just play CDDA or the Bright Nights fork for it, the devs are retarded and its infested with FAGGOTS now but at the very least the gameplay loop is fun and slapping random can make for interesting characters and scenarios.
>>738937662they made a lot of the "survival" aspects grindierI think they are getting into a similar rut that the people contributing to C:DDA did.And last I saw, that resulted in the guy in charge of the codebase getting annoyed and starting to just rip shit out of it.Depressed the hell out of me because I had spent time custom coding a solution to the decade of spaghetti code regarding electronic devices and storage of information on them.I wouldn't have even been allowed to submit it because C:DDA only wants people to submit incremental changes, and I was looking to replace a number of scattered functions with a unified system that let you define what things any electronic (with information storage) could do via a set of flags in the item's json file.
>>738943150Why do these trannies show up in literally every thread?
Why are guns so fucking useless? The general idea should be to use them to clear zombie hordes around buildings you want to enter>shoot bullet>99999999999999999999999 zombies immediately dogpile your shit from 50 miles away due to the noiseWhat the FUCK is the fucking point
>>738937606Yeah because casuals wanted glassblowing and knapping. No, they are just retarded. Everyone wants npcs and its the one thing those fucking idiots wont do.
>>738943507The drawing nature of it should be part of the strategy and has been for a while.You use guns WHEN you're ready to clear 9999 zombies. Them ignoring you is actually worse which you'd know if you cleared an apartment or population dense area.The inexcusible part is in the downdate applying muscle fatigue to gun use. Literal pisspants faggotry by lemmy weeping that people. . . play his game.
>>738943473Because they're literally the same game but with different graphicsDown to the devs being pathologically autistic about no fun allowed
>>738941502No, it's AAVE for "He makes LPs," or "The gentleman in question is know to produce video game long-play content for the internet."In order words, it means "Drone-strike this building several times."
>>738943140I hate how he's focusing on autistic shit instead of working on NPCs.
>>738943902Naruhodo.
>>738937139>after 10 hoursyou mean 2 hours
>>738943507>game has options to customize how zombies behave>choose to play in a way that does this>complain about it???
>>738943150bright nights fork last I saw was super fucking limited and looked like shit.granted I was interested in seeing what code I could grab from old systems to modernize the shit the main CDDA branch had abandoned.
>>738943862nah. they are SIMILAR games but in practice you need to be a much bigger autist to get into C:DDA
>>738944848>chooseIt's default. You could just cheat yes but it's not intended
>>738942841It's one of those gay titles where everything dies in the end and you're supposed to somehow not take that as a "then what's the fucking point of watching/playing it?" cue.
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>>738945208>be given massive control over part of the game>declare that using it is cheating
>>738942841>Is there an endgame?Not dying>Is there a way to win?Don't die
>>738945441spoiler alert: we all die in the end
It's been pretty much confirmed that PZ devs aren't human and only have vague understanding about how our world functions.They got that survivalist guy now though and it seemed like he tries to steer game in right direction, but I haven't looked into it in a while.
>>738943507The point is to clear everything in 50 miles radiusI know it's tempting to use that 1 cardboard of bullets you found but only use for limited ammo is luring away zombies from ammo lockersYou take over store or station and use 100 of ammo boxes there
>>738947842Last few updates have been good i thinkBut they moved away displayed guns and boxes in Stando's for some weird reason so uh
why did a team of brits and Canadians decide to set their melee focused zombie game in rural Kentucky? It doesn't feel at all like Kentucky.
>>738937139>hey this zombie autism game looks good, lets try it>get hooked>character dies>lose interest and stop playing for a yearI'm not the only one, right?
>>738948183Why, what does KY feel like?
>>738947574Maybe a plebian like you.
>>738948226there's billions of us
>>738948390The latest town has a pub in it, they call shit weird names, guns are still relatively rare and the system for them is weird, despite having a heat system its not really reflective of the heat in Kentucky, the terrain is entirely flat. They should have just set it in Canada or somewhere in England or something.
>>738937662They have built more and more into the crafting side of the gameBut its dogshit.>Welding weapons take level 5-6 which is a pretty significant grind to get to>They are dogshit>Blacksmithing takes dozens of tools and some you cant craft and just need to RNG find>Then you autism grind to level 6+ to make meh weaponsFarming they unironically made 10x worse, it takes 50+ days to harvest a crop now because MUH REALISM. Its baffling.Pretty much every skill is a grindy nightmare now with minimal payoff and you need to find RNG magazines to teach you how to even learn recipes that are useful.You can spawn as a welder who has no idea how to make a wall (literally just two metal plates welded together) until you find a magazine to teach you how
>>738948853>6 points to take>boost in only one skill>you don't even get recipes for said skillWhy even have welder in the game
>>738950048Its technically not too hard to grindBut why even make it a grindWhy make it so you literally cant do anything at low levels, its so pointless
>>738943726you mean romanceable NPC's don't you
>ANOTHER PROJECT ZOMBOID THREAD>I POSTED IT AGAIN
Project Zomboid is literally the Sims but with zombies Not sure why they work so slow despite making shekels
>>738950802I meant the profession, but the grind is also bullshit since it boils down to wasting assloads of limited materials while you watch green bars fill up
>>738952082Unless they fucked it you can remove and add metal plates to windows at level 3.Which takes functionally nothing.But its still boring and pointless.
im so fucking autistic man
>>738952521same buddy
>>738943247I hate Kevin like you wouldn't believe.
>>738943507>shoot>run away>shoot some more>run away>break zombie line of sight>circle around back to where you started>you may now loot in peacealternatively, get a car and drive around honking to get their attention then drive off into the distance
>>738942518>only 3 poorly made maps, one of which is a reskin of the first>item variety sucks and funnels into only certain options being good>weapons and stat upgrade tomes have the same problem with only a few being useful>most characters are shit>scaling is atrocious and results in either dying 5 minutes in or pressing the R key over and over until you get "good" RNG>challenges are ragebait with no real payoff>silver becomes useless fast unless you're retarded>unlocks are extremely obnoxious and either are too good or complete trash>game revolves around leaderboard chasing faggotry instead of quality or longevity>dev ran off instead of doing the bare minimum to fix bullshit like getting no useful upgrades at all for entire runs or to make the final bosses more than the exact same charge-shrine snoozefest copy-pasted over for each "map"Most obvious is probably the horribly dated meme-terminology the game's loaded with that makes The Binding of Isaac's references look like gold by comparison
>>738943247you could make it a mod fork it or give it to BN maybe
>>738937139the first part is the case for every single survival game.
>>738942491>Muscle fatigue ALWAYS off
>>738945020what do you mean looked like shit retard, you choose the tileset
>>738937139Wasted Potential: The Game.It's honestly amazing how retarded some devs can be. I love how they did absolutely nothing for nearly 4 years even after getting a large spike in sales and popularity. Instead of actually adding content that everyone from the hardcore players to casuals beg for, they instead triple down on useless additions and decided to make every 10x more grindy. This game is a perfect example of what not to do as a game dev. I am so happy I pirated a key for this game.
