>dodge>the attack has splash that hits outside of its visual hitbox (including the visuals of the splash)okay sweet>dodge>actually didn't dodge because the attack tracks you and physically cannot miss alright neat>dodge>boss follows up with 92 attacks that all track and have the range of a US marine corps sniper, each of which hit for 98% of max hpokay cool>all online discourse and "aid" comes down to "dude this is actually an easy boss if you just spend the entirity of the game lvling up random stats into a metagamed cheese build, you're clearly playing the game wrong mhm yep
just don't get hit :fourhead:
>>738941178From soft are hacks
>>738941178>Hmm clearly dodging isn't working>Perhaps I should try something else?Modern gamers could never
>>738941415>don't dodge>get hit>dodge>get hit the illusion of choice
>>738941178positioning and dodge direction matters, try paying attention to the attacks being used and take into account their range and openings. If you're """waiting your turn"""" this usually means you are not positioning properly or pressing the advantage when dodging.
>>738941178I beat this bitch bl4 without parryingFelt goodOP is gay
>can't beat marialmaono i won't help you, get fucked
>>738941697This. Also keeping a correct distance from her is important, especially in later stages when the splash attacks start. IIRC she's also one of the easiest bosses to parry with the gun, but this obviously takes some practice and is a risky strategy
Why make it so complicated? Just press button at the right time and win.
>>738941178Umm anon... Have you tried gun?
>>738941697my issues aren't attacks like the one going straight forward, that can very easily be dodged by just rolling against or left of her, my issues are the attacks that go straight forward, then as you dodge change direction entirely and has her entire model do a 200 degrees pirouette while she remains locked on to you.
How the fuck does anyone make it past Gascgoine without learning how to parry?
>>738941178>Lady Marialol you can dodge like 90% of her attacks by just dodging forward and your right (her left). Or just parry everything for 1/6 of her HP in riposte damage. The hardest part about her fight is making it last long enough to get her to do her riposte on you where she hugs you. If you wanna complain about shit boss attack frames, you gotta do release day DLC Radahn
>>738942371Gascgoine points his weapon forwards and then attacks forward. He doesn't point it forward, attack forward, and then glitch straight at you in a different direction. There is no need to parry (parrying is arguably a git gud situation, and I'm a shitter in this regard) when attacks work properly.
>>738942756Look at Maria.Is she in neutral? Do nothing.Is she moving? Prepare to parry.Is she closing the gap, and not in neutral when she stops? Try a parry.Is she charging one of her long range, high damage attacks? Learn the timing and dodge it while far away from her.That is literally the entire fight.You have 20 bullets at a minimum, more with blood bullets. Just throw out an L2 when she starts moving towards you and you win the fight.Alternatively, use the Ludwig's Holy Blade charged R2 to chunk her, or spam R1 to stunlock her.Or stack the Metamorphosis Runes to boost your HP and just get in her face with R1 spam.Orphan is going to make you rage quit if you can't beat Maria with these tips.
>>738941178She's the easist to gun-parry/counter retard. Even more so than Gascoigne who was suppose to be the first hurdle / learning wall. Her attacks are all so telefuckinggraphic.
I just killed her without a single parry, and it only took me like 3 straight hours and about 35-45 tries. >needing to easy-mode parry couldn't be me!
>>738944154Cool. Have fun with Orphan, Mr. Big Dick.
>>738943684I genuinely appreciate your advice and effort, anon. Have a nice animal.
It's always funny how despite getting that far into the game people are still struggling with the basic approach in BB and that is to dodge into the boss rather than away or to the side. The entire way fighting works in that game is built around it because it deliberately tried to give the player a different experience than the souls games up to that point.They wanted players to engage and close the gap and stay on the boss aggressively, not to circle around and wait for an opening.They mix this up with a couple of bosses but it's almost a rule to close the gap and be aggressive. The very first boss in the game teaches you that so you can unlearn your souls habits.They did a similar thing in Sekiro where they also had a different approach and then used the first few bosses to "deprogram" the player from learned habits.
>>738941178>complaining about maria>when fucking kos or laurence are right next to her
this is bait right? I literally beat her second try just parry her this whole ass game was a snoozefest.
Hardest boss in BB is the fucking Bloody Crow of Cainhurst. Needs a specific order / quests requirements too to spawn him. BCoC is parry incarnate, and his states / stances are so vague it's so easy to miss and so hard to discern the switches. This boss is a master at baiting and feinting and juking and all that mind tricks and psyche shit, manipulating your input or synapses and reaction that it forces you to make mistakes so he could catch you and punish you brutally. Input fucking God. You have to outthink his directive and programming, his logic and his AI you have to bait him into baiting you into taking his bait inceptionmasterbaition chess game. BCoC is fucking perfection.
>>738944420>different experience than the souls games up to that point.youre supposed to dodge forward in souls too
>>738941178Press L2 nigga >just spend the entirity of the game lvling up random stats into a metagamed cheese buildThe fuck are you talking about, every build has a gun and your ripostes primarily scale off your overall level.
>>738941178i guess im just never going to play Bloodborne when my only options are the headache inducing 18fps console version or spending 4 hours downloading that bitcoin miner on my PC
>>738941178https://youtu.be/AMQPcgdcexQ
>>738944685The only boss fight that had shitty framerate on the PS4 is Laurence, when its furs start burning.
Hell yeah I just started playing Bloodborne for the first time lately on my PC, this thread is timely.Just got past Gascoigne, fucker took me about a dozen tries. I was not prepared for how different the combat is in this compared to the other souls games.
>>738944685zoomers are too stupid to set up emulators
>>738941178This whole post is funny because Lady Maria was probably the last "duel" boss in a Fromsoft Soulslike I actually liked. It has literally been nothing but downhill since Bloodborne because Miyazaki is a hack and keeps putting Bloodborne bosses in their dodge and roll games instead of either having the balls to replace the dogshit souls roll with BB's quicksteps to keep pace with the faster gameplay or slowing things down. Either commit to making an action game or dont.Also for genuine advice, like with basically every BB boss, dodge INTO her swings, not away from them. The game is designed mechanically around enabling player aggression, and that also means dodging aggressively.
>>738944937It's a shorter game unless you're going out of your way to do everything, but it has a bunch of varied builds that are all very fun.Personally, I never put a single point into Endurance anymore, which might be something to consider if you're going for another run after the first.99 Bloodtinge is fun. 99 Arcane is more of a meme, but also fun.The tightest modern FromSoft game outside of Sekiro.
>>738941178Pic unrelated btw
>>738944535Or you just pull him to the stairs and take advantage of the fact that he becomes retarded when he's trying to leash. Actual hardest boss is the dual shotel version of Pthumerian Descendant when it spawns in a Depth 5 FRC Root dungeon. Even at 99 Vig motherfucker will just casually 1-shot you with an unparryable homing boomerang that goes through pillars.>>738944978True. Game has been perfectly playable on emulator since at least December 2024 but you can't have a thread about it without a dozen retarded zoomers claiming it doesn't work because they don't know how to unzip files into a folder lel
>>738941415Souls players a queer sort, they enjoy being abused.
>>738944978>>738945795>No 'cheevosDont care, wont play. Simple as
>>738946102The emulator has functioning achievements.
>>738941178Never got around to the DLC of this game but I'm gonna guess she's less bullshit than Malenia
>>738941178I parried her and Child of Kos(m) to death because their attacks are ridiculous but parries are really good.
I had the whirlgig saw and basically just bullied her to death, she (seems to) get stunlocked by big boy weapons
>>738941178Bloodborne is a tech demo for Dark Souls 3, just play Dark Souls 3, literallyDon't believe me? Abyss watcher is an improved version with fixed hitboxes
I wish Maria was harder because she’s really easy to both parry and face tank while parrying. Except in NG+ cycles but at that point I just had awesome gems since that’s the point of the gems really.
>>738945795>Actual hardest boss is the dual shotel version of Pthumerian Descendant when it spawns in a Depth 5 FRC Root dungeon. Even at 99 Vig motherfucker will just casually 1-shot you with an unparryable homing boomerang that goes through pillars.For me it was this fucking flamedog in one of the dungeons you have to clear on your way to Queen Yharnam that has this permanent debuff that halves your health, making this thing one-two shot you with most attacks
>>738945795Depth 5 Loran Darkbeast was worse holy shit I hated that and there’s no reason to ever do it because Loran gems suck anyway.
>>738941415>ummm maybe the games not for you sweaty :)Fromtroons earned their reputation just like pokepedos and deltatroons did. You just avoid looking in the mirror
>>738941775Maria is the easiest fucking boss in the dlc, just parry her
>>738941574>dodge or don't dodgeWhat shit game are you playing?
>>738942371Sheer tyranny of will. I beta the entire game without parrying but admittingly did not play the DLCs
>>738942371>parryingYikes
>>738949354okay bethestroon, are u still waiting for ur the elder sloops VI?
>>738941178skill issue.
