Is this faggot the most hateable character in existence?Genuinely not a single redeeming factor, the fact that he was allowed to live blows my mindLuckily we know how that ended
>>738942919No, the Boss was a character.
>>738942919he literally did nothing wrong besides prove that women will be your downfall
>>738942919This has been debunked, chud. He thought the inspection was real + snake never never should have built the nuke in the first place
>>738944312>literally leaks data to Cypher 24/7>magically is the only person "extracted" alive from the MSF Motherbase>curiously recovers PW's AI pod tooyeah, nah.
He's a wolf not a dog
>>738942919Huey was framed by Kaz for everything that happened on Diamond Dogs MB
>>738944706>literally leaks data to Cypher 24/7but enough about Kaz
>>738942919it's funny how hard V retcons everyone. this guy was just otacon but they had to destroy his character to make the retarded plot of V make sense. nobody acts like they did in pw, nothing short of character assassination
>>738949373try playing more than one game in the series, Huey had to be a bad guy because of MGS2.
>>738942919No, he was right
>>738944312Huey is a chud though.>>738948415And that's why Big Boss correctly cut him out too.
>>738942919Huey did nothing wrong! I was the only sane man at Mother Base, and Big Boss picked him as a scapegoat to avoid actually dealing with any problems!
>>738942919>Genuinely not a single redeeming factorHe fathered Hal
>>738949373Huey didn't have to turn heel in MGS5 for any plot to make sense. It was just a MGS5 decision to spice up his character. Probably to make him less of an Otacon clone like he was in PW. It worked since the Huey story is one of the few bright spots in MGS5. He's one of the few characters to actually get developed:>Big Boss: Barely a character, "m-m-muh badass Mad Max Keither Sutherland vibes">Big Medic: Somewhat interesting psychological trauma shit in the Paz plot, but still barely a character.>Kaz: Becomes angsty, does nothing the the rest of the story>Ocelot: Does nothing>Quiet: Shit character. Forced romanced and heroic sacrifice bullshit in an optional mission.>Code Talker: Fine but just a secondary character >Scar Face: Meme Villain, at least has a backstory and finished story.>Liquid: Pissy teen, only character development happens in cut content.>>738949457Not true. MGS2 just says Huey killed himself after getting cucked. He didn't need to be a bad guy for that story to work, it made sense prior to his villain characterization in MGS5.
>>738942919Huey is a massive little shit, but god damn it I love him so much.
>>738948415Does that secret tape in PW even have any plot impact? MGS5 barely even mentions it IIRC, it just acts like Kaz being in contact with Cipher is no big deal. PW it was meant to be a huge twist and more villainous
>>738942919he's too lame to truly hate
>>738943190Metal Gear is unreal, by the time of the Johnson administration they would be executing the old spies.
>>738951668The metal gear series only makes sense if you remember each game is suppose to be the last in the series.
>>738951372this, literally every character becomes less interesting in V from Peace walker and mgs3. the only character bright sides is Kaz's one violin line and him reverting back to his original character in the burger scenes.
>>738952114MG1 through MGS3 has surpsignly consistent continuity. The only huge retcon is the Big Boss father twist from MGS1, which apparently happened during their final fight in MG2.Only after 3 does shit get retarded with frequent retcons.
>>738951372>Not true. MGS2 just says Huey killed himself after getting cucked.he literally tried to murder/suicide himself and kill Emma as well, he was a piece of shit
>>738952560MGS3 had a load of retcons. I liked that one but the only reason it works is because it took place in the 60s. I like mgs3 but im not going to act like it was perfect.
>>738952571Oh right I forgot he tried to drown Emma, it's been years since I played MGS2.I still think MGS5 didn't need to make him an overt villain for that story to work. But it makes it way better, especially after his innocent PW characterization
>>738952829MGS3 by itself doesn't contradict anything from MG1-MGS2 IIRC. It just fleshes out Big Boss's backstory, which was mostly a blank slate until then.
>>738951668yes, it's the basis for the game's twist which is that Kaz is the traitor and behind everything that goes wrong in MGSV. >>738952864the only thing he's actually guilty of is killing Strangelove, it's a red herring that he's the saboteur on DD Mother Base. it's Kaz trying to undermine DD because he's mad at Big Boss, so he goes all in with Cipher.
>>738953057>yes, it's the basis for the game's twist which is that Kaz is the traitor and behind everything that goes wrong in MGSVIs it? I thought everything in MGS5 was orchestrated by Big Boss and Cipher. Kaz is pissed Big Boss left him with the dobblerganger and is using him as a pawn. But Kaz himself doesn't cause anything to go wrong in MGSV. He successfully sets up Diamond Dogs with Big Medic, as per Big Boss's plan.
>>738953057Rewatch the trial scene from 5. Huey is guilty for the destruction of MSF. He was Skullface's trojan horse for the nuclear inspection. That's why punished Kaz wants his head on a pike.
>>738953324the conversation between Ocelot and Kaz during the Truth ending after the credits (in lieu of a phone call) makes it more explicit, at some point during the game Kaz learns the truth about Venom's identity (you can kind of see it, there's a point during cutscenes where he clearly stops treating Venom like the real Big Boss and gets really short and dismissive and pissy) and determines to undermine Big Boss however he can. at that point all of "Huey's" sabotage begins. which makes no sense, how is Huey supposed to sabotage anything when he's locked up in that room with shitty robot legs that aren't stealthy? Kaz has more resources and know-how to sabotage Diamond Dogs.the Portopia tape the prisoner in Ground Zeroes is holding that you can't play makes it more obvious. it's a game about a detective where your assistant turns out to be the killer you're looking for all along. Kojima was basically spelling it out MGSV's secret twist in an obtuse way only dataminers could solve>>738953529it's Kaz coping, Huey was just fooled by Skull Face, he wasn't guilty of anything, he didn't know the sabotage would happen. she leaves right before the attack happens and Kaz is the one who got them in bed with Cipher which is the only reason Skull Face targeted them. every side-op in Ground Zeroes comes from a military/intelligence organization controlled by Cipher. MSF was Cipher's illegal off the books enforcement branch for anything they couldn't get other governments to do. if Kaz hadn't betrayed BB to Cipher and got in bed with Zero, Ground Zeroes wouldn't have happened. he's just upset that he caused everything that happened and wants someone else to blame. people overlook that because Huey did kill Strangelove, so they think that it makes him unquestionably guilty of other crimes. but that isn't true.
>>738953686You can make the case that Kaz is the DD saboteur (although Huey had access to the entire R&D department and wasn't just locked up in one room. Releasing the vocal chords parasites would've been trivial). But MSF's destruction was 100% on Skull Face and Huey. Kaz working with Cipher and orchestrating their involvement in the PW crisis indirectly led to the destruction of MSF, since it put a target on their back from Skull Face. But his intent was to grow MSF, not destroy it. He was legitimately pissed at Huey.
EYES ON KAZUHIRA
>>738954509Huey's intent wasn't to destroy MSF though, he genuinely thought what he was doing was the right thing and it would protect Mother Base.
>>738953014Having a russian be the original designer for a metal gear is a big one, also revolver ocelot not changing his code name when he was a russian agent in mgs3 and then being an american agent in mgs1. Having Ocelot in this game really fucks the lore.
>>738955269The shagohod being designed by a Russian doesn't contradict anything in MG1-MGS2. Those games don't say Metal Gear is the first nuclear mech ever. Even if they did, the shagohod was a prototype that was never made public.Ocelot was a triple agent in MGS3. He was always working for America, he was Adam.
>>738955247>t.
>>738942919MGSV's story and gameplay are both garbage, so he reminds me of Kojima.He even looks a little bit like him.
>>738955958if anything Strangelove is the suspicious one. she mysteriously left Mother Base just before the inspection, and she winds up working directly for Skull Face modifying the Patriots AI to his specification and thus creating MGS4's war economy.
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>>738955740It was the other scientist, the drunk guy. He has designs for the Zeke or Rex. He complains that they funded the Shagohod. About Ocelot its dumb that hes an american agent posing as a russian agent but also is Big Boss' mentors son. It feels like a fanfic.
>the only Venom Snake characterization we get in the entire game is his blaming himself for Paz's deathsad
>>738957736there's more if you look under the surface or have a really deep understanding of the series lore/themes and characters. like Venom admits to having persona feelings for his comrades which he knows is supposed to be wrong, Big Boss doesn't give a fuck about them he internalizes that lesson after being traumatized by killing The Boss. he even describes the personality of Big Boss implanted on to him as the demon he describes because being Big Boss is so traumatic for him. he cared deeply for all the soldiers he killed.
>>738942919such a whiny, shitty characterdid not like this character at all
What gets me is that the trial might have been jig. Everyone but Snake was all in on Cipher's plan or know of Cipher.