Will Metal Sonic finally be considered more than just a jobber?
idk only time will tell when the movie releases
lmao
Metal Sonic has been written into a predicament ever since Heroes, because Eggman took away his free will and any ambition factor he could possible have. He’s just a husk of what he was in Sonic Heroes except for that time in Rivals 2 and that time in Free Riders but those games are really really really bad so nobody cares. Like yeah some guy could say heroes is bad but it’s at least a 7/10 if you’re being honest, those two games are sub 4.
>>738948932>we have filmed the BEST Sonic Movie yetWhat I'm Made Of > Live and Learn, but can 4's climax really surpass 3's?
>>738948872>Will Metal Sonic finally be considered more than just a jobber?Death Battle convinced millions that Metal Sonic is a multiversal+++++ destroyer god. It's his own creators that don't buy any of that shit.
>>738949850Neo Metal Sonic*
he cute
>>738949850>It's his own creators that don't buy any of that shittheir own creators also don't know their own lore. They can't make up their minds if Sonic games take place in two worlds or just one
>>738950567They made up their mind on that years ago. Large land masses have humans, small islands have "mobians".
>>738948932>FowlerSo that's Idris Elba, Keanu Reeves, Jim Carey, and Ben Schwartz.This cinematic universe is getting expensive
>>738949059Just do a mix of CD and the OVA. Simple as
>>738951227There's a reason the A-listers only do voice acting. It's only a week of work so it's relatively cheap. Hell Keanu did fuck all marketing for Sonic 3 alongside only having 17 minutes of scenes.
>>738948932>we have filmed the BEST Sonic Movie yetIf they manage to make Metal Sonic a great villain and have 'What I'm Made Of" play during the final battle I'll agree it'll be the best sonic movie ever. I don't care about the Amy stuff, I honestly think she'll be the worst part of the movie
>>738950720No they didn't, that's why Apotos is on crossworlds populated by blobians and humans are nowhere to be found
>>738951584Guarantee we get stardust speedway with Amy needing to be rescued
>>738949067Nah, it’s based on Sonic cd, so Sonic boom is a shoe in.
>>738949850The problem of the copycat villain that isn't even the main villain. They're just a potential man destined to lose each time except maybe a bad timeline.
>>738949059Make him the terminator he was in the OVA. He doesn’t even have to be sentient. He can stay a 100% obedient to eggman robot, just make him a serious threat. The OVA has carried his aura for decades, tap into it once again.
>>738949850Chaos emeralds hard carry the sonic verse, and even then it’s a limited transformation.
>>738951656>amy needing to be rescuedIn current year Hollywood? I'd be impressed
>>738951618Forces mobians are cheap asset placeholders. The new material (that Shadow Generations anime and Chaotix podcast) heavily relied on humans for plot, so Humans most likely will make an in-game return real soon
>>738948872no
>>738948932what the fuck they actually built a life size fully modelled metal sonic? or is even this behind the scenes photo "no CGI(TM)"
>>738948932Neat
>>738948872A hundred of him jobbed right in the movie post credits scene.
>>738949067Fighting Metal Overlord in the skies of Emperor Robotnik's capital city to restore the timeline would be fucking amazing.
>>738948872Nope. Strange, isn't it?
>>738952268I think it'll be a mix where she needs saving but will assist on her end so Sonic can mess him up. I'm hoping they go with a middle ground by making her fairly competent while also having a fun dynamic with Sonic where she's trying to hide her fangirlism
>>738948932Only a matter of time before we get a trailer drop.
>>738956473>Metal OverlordIt should be Super Neo
He beat Cell. That should be enough.
>>738956786Fuck off, no Sonic character is beating Roshi
>>738956923Seethe dbspic.
If Fowler was actually based he'd be doing the Fleetway adaptation of Metallix
>>738956996You know it's true tranny, sonic's source is the games, Dragonballs source is the manga, outside feats don't count.Sonic in the games runs fast and stops Eggman from building theme parks, canon Roshi does with his hands what Gerald couldn't do with the Arc
>>738956923He didn't defeat Roshi, he beat Cell
>>738956923>Fuck off, no Sonic character is beating RoshiGenerally true, it's the Chaos Emeralds are ridiculously cracked from all the times it's been used as an "I Win" button. Base Sonic and Super Sonic are universes apart.
>>738957148The thing with the games is they have specific bs moments that amp Super Sonic (the only actual contender in powerfag talks when it comes to vidya Sonic) high. Namely stuff like Time Eater and Solaris
>>738956923>"Lifeform data successfully copied">wins
Felt it was fitting since we are talking about upcoming 4th Movie.
>>738948872Surge GAPED this jobber SISSY ROBOT BITCH!
>>738957378What was special about beating Time Eater? As I recall they had to go into his dimension then hit him a few timesDBZ characters are capable of tearing into new dimensions by screaming (albeit at SSJ3 level)
>>738956923Roshi would willingly let Rouge beat him off
>>738951829>The servers are the seven Chaos. >Chaos is power... >Power enriched by the heart. >The controller is the one that unifies the Chaos.
>>738948872No. The fact that his debut scene treated him like mass produced fodder says everything
>>738957720The whole wiping timeline thing I assume which only Zeno (the supposed most powerful fucker in dragonball verse) can do.
>>738957808>5Silver>6Chaos>7...Riders?
>>738957839Riders will be Sonic Movie 5
>>738957812Sonic couldn't do that though, he just hit Time Eater a few times. What's stopping Goku from punching him?
We ALL know the fourth movie won't sell higher than the 3rd, right? SA2 was the highest climax in any game. 06 and Unleashed come close, but they would have to be heavily altered to become a cinematic masterpiece.
>>738958120I dunno. Metal's been getting a fair amount of hype lately and What I'm Made Of / Stardust Speedway are two big sonic music names to potentially have going off on the big screen
>>738958120These movies have mainstream appeal. Most of the audience doesn't even know what the source material is. If Ryan Renolds gets announced as the voice of Silver, people will show up regardless of how bad '06 plot is.
>>738957839What if Surge?How pissed would people be?
>>738958120Honestly I think they should have stopped at 3, it feels like there's nowhere to go from there but down.
>>738958367>PissedMaybe in the sense of wanting something else covered first, but I think Surge getting in would generate a decent amount of hype given all the buzz that happened over Tangle and Whisper getting official voices in that radio drama and showing up in the racing game. Surge is generally the most popular girl from the comics
>>738956437It was like 10 at most. An army of metal sonics under the command of neo metal isn't unheard of. Also the main one was blue while the others were grey.
>>738958406There was concept art for sonic 3 where it showed an alternate timeline where Eggman wins and rules the world with metal sonic at his side. They had this planned for awhile.
>>738956695It's too early for a trailer. We're probably not going to see one until like november or something
>>738958120Has there ever been a piece of media that continued to sell higher numbers after the original trilogy?
>>7389590044 months before release is standard for these so maybe Game Awards like Sonic 2.
>>738959027Pikmin
>>738959027Star Wars
>>738959630>Star WarsSo the Sequels were actually good, or what am I missing
>>738958120>but they would have to be heavily altered to become a cinematic masterpieceJust like every sonic movie so far
>>738962232there wasn't much alteration needed for the main story of sa2/movie 3
>>738957717But Surge is also a jobber...The cutest jobber, but a jobber nonetheless.
>>738962493The only thing in the sonic 3 movie that felt like SA2 was Sonic and Shadow teaming up to stop the eclipse cannon from destroying the earth
>>738949850That wasn't death battle, it was Super Mario Bros Z back in the Newgrounds days, which death battle has always paid homage to. Those flash animations have carried Metal Sonic's image so hard that even the Sonic comics reference it now, even though it's not technically the same Metal Sonic.
>>738958120In the real world and not your autistic one, stories don't become cinematic masterpieces by having the hypest DBZ monster fights. None of the Sonic games are good enough writing wise that movie quality depends on the games - any Sonic movie could be the best one and it has nothing to do with which game it's based on.
>>738948872mecha sonic btfo metal faggot
>>738963128the beginning
>>738963573>stories don't become cinematic masterpieces by having the hypest DBZ monster fightsThey literally do? Or are you saying The Last of Us is more your speed?
>>738948872Neo's design is sick. I hope they use it.
>>738963937It'd be a missed opportunity if they don't. If they are going with multiple Metals they could just have him be the OG leader one
>>738950720It doesn't change the fact they're very inconsistent with the sonic timeline. At some point Tails and Knuckles were able to go super but NOW it's confirmed only male hedgehogs can turn super.
>>738963937>>738963937you know, I've always wondered, would people like it if Metal Sonic stayed like this but he's still loyal to Eggman? kinda like he is in IDW or would they perfer it as a transformation?I'm legit torn, I think he he were always Neo Metal that would mean the cast would have to deal with him, Eggman and Sage as a collective and it would also mean they'd have to characterize metal and hve him vocalize how he feels towards eggman, sage and others like Omega and Gemerlthat copy ability of his is broken, through I heard idW got in some major trouble for making him go super in the sonic and knuckles fight but master overlord was apparently okay with them, strange
>>738950402>>738949850Mecha Sonic. Death battle was inspired by SMBZ
>Theater erupts into thunderous applause
>>738963937>>738964160To be honest, I love OG Metal but they should have kept Neo Metal as his modern design
I feel like whenever people wank off Metal Sonic, they temporarily forget every game appearance he's ever had. For a brief moment, the OVA was all that ever existed.
>>738964647You can't call Neo Metal a Metal "Sonic" anymore. And frankly, even as Neo, he'd still barely appear. And if he does appear, he'd still job. Eggman is still the main archnemesis, and Metal Sonic will NEVER usurp that position. He might grt to shine once a decade, but that's all he'd ever get.
>>738963992Have him evolve in the middle of the movie after he's copied enough of sonic
>>738954147It's fucking crazy to me how, no matter what iteration he is in, Metal Sonic has never been redesigned. He's just stayed the way he is for years and everyone agrees it's perfect. I was expecting the movies to fuck his design a little but no, he's still the fucking same. How does he do it?
>>738965293Not a fan of how there are multiple Metal Sonics
>>738964129>it's confirmed only male hedgehogs can turn super.Never confirmed.
>>738964872Depends if this will be Jim Carrey's last hurrah. Gonna assume Amy comes from a timeline where Eggman won and wants to rule this reality. You could have neo metal be the villian for 5 if you really build him up.
>>738965504>Depends if this will be Jim Carrey's last hurrah.we said that 3 movies ago
>>738960385Kinda skipped over an entire trilogy there
>>738965565Carry is starting to look like a zombie nowadays.
>>738965565He probably won't need to do much this movie if Metal Sonic is the true villain. Just sit in the hover chair, explain how he survived, try to kill Sonic with the ol ball and chain, lose, Metal Sonic betrays, then team up with Sonic to take him down. Badabing badaboom.
>>738963937I can totally see Blue Metal getting sick of following Robotnik's orders that he betrays him and takes over the future timeline himself. Have him say something like "How appropriate to have a robot overlord rule a robot kingdom" for the sake of references
>>738957717>>738962673She literally lost against Metal. She had to be rescued and get support from Kit to be able to defeat him. And then she had the fucking balls to say picrel to Metal after that. Shame on you Surge.I love her tho, jobber or not.
>>738965997My money is on this Eggman being from another timline since CD will be the basis for this movie.
>>738966859Can you show moments of Surge jobbing? I keep hearing that but never see it and I don't plan on reading the comics.
>>738967529She jobs when she is against Sonic, that's it.
>>738958120I believe that Jeff Fowler can deliver I’m coming into this with an open mind.
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>>738967742Hey, just like how sonic gets obliterated in the OVA
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>>738958569Surge would unironically be hype to see in the movies and it would be made better if there was a game to promote her appearance in a movie.
>>738957717>>738958569>>738966859>>738967742>>738967794>>738967852>>738967894>>738967930>Surgefag posting>>>/sthg/
>>738968179>everyone in 4chan besides me is the same personI only posted the comic ones since anon asked, schizo.
>>738957839>doing iblis if Silver is in for 5>then chaos for 6>ending on fucking riders of all things for the last movie
>>738948932I know that the movies are allergic to videogame music but I hope that we can hear some CD tracks in it. Hoping for this for the creditshttps://youtu.be/5AW7xQ_Dxjk
>>738949850Death Battle is mentally retarded and everyone knows this.
>>738948872He already won
>>738948872I NOTICE I NOTICE
>>738969093>Flexes on Bowser's entire army essentially taking out Bowser and all his elite guys on his own. Is only barely stopped by super amp'd Fury Bowser with fatherly power boost>Mogs Cell>Getting his own upcoming movieMetalbros are eating good. Now if only he'd show up in the next mainline game
>>738969106MANY MANY THINGS THAT LOOK-A-LIKEhttps://youtu.be/nUENLoRGvvs
>>738967894>>738967852Is Kit a waterbender? Also, do you have more scenes? It doesn't seem like she fully jobbed in this moment.
>>738948932So when does the movie release?
>>7389696912027, probably before March
>>738948872I love the OVA.
>>738948872>got a Sonic 3 & Knuckles, Sonic Adventure 2 and a Sonic CD/Heroes adaption not only in my lifetime, but in the same decade, with Jim Carrey as Robotnik no lessBros, we're in the good timeline, the kid inside of me is grateful and happy, we're eating so good with these movies.
>>738957839>RidersGreen is obviously Team Chaotixhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhZbRQhxxj0
>>738969691Supposedly, we're getting 3 more movies even after 4 >>737227064
>>738969503>Is Kit a waterbender?Something like that, he can control water and carry lots of it in that backpack of his to use at will.>>738969503>Also, do you have more scenes? It doesn't seem like she fully jobbed in this moment.If you don't see her jobbing there then the rest won't convince you since they're a "she needs to retreat" more than jobbing it tbdesu.Spoiler so schizo-chan don't go crazy about Surge or the comics.
>>738967852>>738967894>couldn't manage a win in a 1v1 "AIEEEEE KIT HELP MEEEEEEEE!"thinks she's gonna replace sonic btw
I remember seeing this guy, then later seeing him in the games and being disappointed. Unfortunate.
>>738969358>"Maybe the most powerful thing that Metal copied was the ability..to lie"Man, I wish sega made Metal Sonic this interesting of a villain
>>738970165>If you don't see her jobbing thereWell, I do. But just off of that scene, she shows she can hold her own too. It seems like the usual case with shounen-style writing where she can't be too op, so she needs to be in sticky situations where she needs an ally to tag in. Kinda like Avatar fights, etc.
>>738970376Metal Sonic would be a great if he had actually capable writers. The problem is Sega employs weird geeks like Pontac & Graff or Ian Flynn and then makes it even worse by having their own set of retarded mandates that prevent any of the characters from actually growing as people. Sonic as a franchise is basically stuck in a hell of its own making.
>>738959069>Frontiers 2 potentially coming in 2027>Movie 4 also coming 2027We're about to have 2022 2 but better
>>738970291I still love how one (1) flash animation changed the entire fanbase's perception of the character for decades and counting.
They filmed a scene where Tom is caught fucking Amy in her hedgehole
>>738970739I don't want to shit on the writers too much because at the end of the day sega are the ones preventing them from writing a good story. Ian Flynn wanted to bring back Hyper Sonic in Frontiers but we ended up getting super sonic with blue eyes instead
>>738971029uhm...based?
>>738970519She can, she really is a menace, but writing dictates that she must lose, retreat, or get help anyway. I don't mind since like you said, this is usual in shounen.Tbdesu I can't wait for her and Kit to be fully redeemed so they can win some real fights along the rest of the team.This is why I enjoy the comics, since I really like when rivals join forces to fight a bigger threat, like Sonic and Metal fighting together.
>>738948872Cell solos metal sonic easily Metal sonic gets low diffed by charmy the bee
>>738949059>but it’s at least a 7/10 if you’re being honestYou have to play this shit 4 times to beat it. It's a 5/10 for that alone.
>>738954147They build models of the CGI characters to help with how the light should reflect off the CGI characters.
>>738958062It means Super Sonic is uniquely strong in terms of magic, but not physicality, as demonstrated by the Titans and needing help (and a new form, technically 2) to beat The End. So theoretically there is a magical side to Super that hasn't been tapped yet, but the writers, especially that dumb fuck Ian, probably haven't realizes this and will never do anything with it. Then again, I doubt they considered this in Generations, but that's the bitch about story writing carelessly. You end up making important details that are accidentally noticed.
man how cool would it be if Look Alike came on at some point?
>>738948932Man, movie metal looks so good. I like the fact that a real life size model of him exists now. I wonder if they also made one for Neo (assuming he's in the movie)
>>738972080You're absolutely delusional. They had to fight just to get fucking Live and Learn into the movie because the composer is some egotistical faggot. It will 100% not happen. Stardust Speedway is more likely, but I wouldn't be surprised if they forced in What I'm Made of for memberberry faggotry.
>>738948872He already is
>>738972501yeah but HOW COOL WOULD IT BE
>>738972961I'd prefer Believe In Yourselfnever ever
>>738963239>>738964315SMBZ did make Mecha look very cool, but it's not like we had a concrete powerlevel for him. It was powerscalers that came up with the logic that because Super Sonic defeated Solaris and Time Eater, then he must have powers beyond theirs, and you can likely apply that to every character that can use the Chaos Emeralds. Now we're at Metal Sonic effortlessly defeating Cell.
>>738973057didn't the Archie comics make Mecha look cool too before AlvinEarthworm or am I tripping?
>>738973057Sonic didn't beat Solaris OR Time Eater alone. Or for that matter, Metal Overlord, Biolizard, Eggman in Sonic Rush (and Adventure), Dark Gaia, The End (twice, even).
>>738948932how much do we think that Metal Sonic replica was spent to make? would you buy it?
>>738951584I hope "X music plays" means we hear at least a whole minute instead of 5 seconds as if they were ashamed.
>>738948872You don't know what "jobber" means.
amy
>>738974957How many Gen A kids are gonna turn into furfags after she debuts?
>>738975241If they keep her clothes as it is, especially her sexy exposed back and short dress, then I am sure more than one person will get their awakening. But I doubt we are gonna get a faithful amy costume, I expect everything to be less girly and more cover up, sadly.
>>738975609Her 3 arcs of hair is enough for me.
>>738975721I mean, she doesn't even has that, they gave her like 7 arcs of hair for some reason while Tails looks like his videogame counterpart
>>738975825>she doesnt even have thatBro...
>>738975721basedtill
>>738970291Despite being a mini boss in S&K, Mecha Sonic Mk2 still looks badass.
>>738981182Looking back, kinda crazy how a robot super sonic was JUST a tiny encounter, it has a lot of build up before the fight too.. oh well
>>738981394>>738981182I used to like Silver Sonic.
