Gabebros can't stop winning
>>738954927'purchase'you mean rent.
>>738954971When's the return day?
>>738955062whenever they decide, it's in the EULA
>>738955062Your funeral
>>738954971no, purchase. you buy games (literally) on steam, no licensing or renting. really cool huh?
>Spend $70>Get invaluable free PR and good will How are companies this fucking retarded?You're literally spending pennies to build customer loyalty and trust.Instead they seem to do the exact opposite, almost like call you a fucking retarded buffoon for paying for their products, "fuck you".
>>738955182the people who do those things are always the same types of people every single time. connect the dots.
timbros....they're slandering us.,...
>>738955139And how many times has this happened?
>>738954971‘Purchase’ the same way you purchase any software, including the one coming on disks.>but I can make an image file and mount it when the cd diesSure you can. That’s not strictly legal though.
>>738955357When you get banned for saying no-no words online
Steam support owes me sex then
Nah fuck steam they wont refund me rockstar games. I cant play them because of the launcher, i forgot my login and theres no way to remove it.
>>738955441and how many times has that happened? can you cite even one?
>>738955503this image is actually pretty fucking funny because hollow knight fans barely have threads at all
>>738955441Ok so what I've gathered is, you're making up a scenario that's never happened and getting mad at it. Vac bans, trade bans, store bans don't remove access to your games. Individual non valve game bans have nothing to do with steam, so where are you going with this?
>>738954971The exe is on your computer, retard.
>>738955605>>738955703Really? I was just playing along, I actually like steam
>>738955310FUCK YEAH BASED GABEN RENTED SOMEONE A PRODUCT THEY DIDN'T MAKE AND DON'T OWN FOR FREE HOW FUCKING BASSSSSSSSSSSSSSED YASSSSSSSSSSSS KING
>>738956210God, shut up you utter faggot.
>>738955703You can be game banned on steam which will block you from playing, you can check things like Dungeon Defenders which had a bad time with many false reports etc on this.
>>738954927Cool.I ordered the old version and they just failed to ship it in 2018 and it got lost.Made my $500 chargeback refund later on more justified.
>>738956370>PLEASE STOP MALIGNING MY SPECIAL RENTAL SERVICE BASED GABEN DOESN'T DESERVE IT HE ONLY TURNED THE ENTIRE VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY INTO A RENTAL SERVICE THAT HAS TO PAY HIM 30% IT'S JUST 30% JUST STOP COMPLAINING THIS IS THE HOLOCAUST BUT REAL
>>738955503This image is so obviously made by a nintendo fan.
>>738957026>complaining about the 30% industry standard cutpoo nigger detected, denounce vishnu or kill yourself
>>738954927Lol epic been giving us free games for years the hypocrisy is real and don't get it twisted im apart of it
>>738957159I denounce vishnu and all the other hindu demons and the talmud and the zohar just in case you are wonderingletting jews steal from your effort is fucking retarded and defending it is either jewish or the most retarded slave shit possible
>>738955891which won't work without steam unless you crack itit be different situation if we were talking about GOG
>>738954971A rental requires regular payments to retain the object. The only games that could reasonably said to be rentals by default are subscription-based MMOs. Some stores also explicitly advertise renting (gamepass etc).
>>738956210You're brown
>>738957292the "just run it from your computer" argument is a favorite of steamgoys
>>738957362seething jew mad at getting noticed
valve is not a "good guy" company and anyone claiming otherwise has semitic blood in their veins. just because they fuck you slightly less hard than other companies do that doesn't make them good.as long as steam licenses are non-transferable they will never be based. valve normalized pc games being non-transferable and anyone claiming otherwise is sucking corporate cock. shills need not reply.
>>738957510>seething consoletard faggoti just came into this thread to call you a nigger
>>738957583>incapable of realizing good and bad are relative terms>making retarded demands to fulfill an arbitrary standard so he can keep whining
>>738957623>um you are brown and a goystation xbot if you don't like jews fucking over the entire video game industryrabbi or total fucking moron?
>>738954927It costs Valve about $5 to make one Steam Controller in China (including shipping costs by boat to their warehouse in North America). Then they sell it for $100. They get to make $95 pure profit per sale.I don't think they care about giving away free games when they rip you off that much. On top of that they get 30% of every sale on Steam, so it means that if they give you a $100 game, they actually only pay $70 to the dev (since 30% was going to Steam anyway). So they make $95 per Controller, then if you pick a $100 game they lose $70... so you subtract 70 to 95 and you get 25.They still make around $25 in the scenario that the person chooses a $100 game. Not bad.
>>738957772No, actually it costs them $110, they voluntarily take a loss on every controller just to corner the market.No, wait, both of those numbers are complete asspulls, stop making shit up.
>>738957751being able to transfer and trade games that you are finished playing is not a retarded demand, you have been lead into believing otherwise because you are a gullible retard. this was the standard for all games for decades until valve began to normalize everything being non-transferable. you're actually dumb as a brick for thinking otherwise. stop posting.
>>738957751Anon he's a stealth shill for Epic I don't know what you expected.
>>738957854>pointing out anything bad valve has done means you're a shill for (rival company)blow your head off with a 12 gauge immediately
>>738957909You first Timmy, do not collect 200 rupees when you pass Go
>>738957830UPVOTED SIS THIS IS TRUE THIS IS VALID PEOPLE NEED TO FUCKING STOP BULLYING VALVE #HALFLIFE3
>>738957962>200 rupeesbro thinks i'm from Hyrule
>>738957962at least get your terminology correct if you are going to act like a complete braindead retard on 4chan. timmy is what indians call white people, yet you are calling someone timmy and indian in the same sentence. fucking moron.
>>738954927GODben...
>>738957753Cucksolejeet melty lel
>>738957830It's 2026 buddy. You can literally call their factory in China and ask how much it will cost you to make a similar product for X quantity and ship the containers here.I understand you are paid to shill for Valve, but could you at least put some effort in your attempts? Or if you're a bot, then I hope your owner programs you in a more engaging manner.
>>738958319>anyone calling out that I just make shit up is a paid shillkys
>>738954971Why are you brown?
>>738958319he does it for free
>>738958084The only moron here is you actually
>>738954927is steam proof that most companies are run by incompetent evil greedy psychopaths and those companies only survive because they reached domination before being headed by said psychos?that giant corporations actually do have the ability to be decent if they weren't headed by pieces of shit?
>>738957262Explain how you expect a store to function if it can't take a cut of the products being sold.
Reminder Fatso will die in your lifetime and Steam (and you accounts) will crumble with him.
>>738958319And I'm sure you have totally called a chinese company and asked that.
>>738957583>normalizedThat shit was normalized when games started having code books and limited installs.
>>738954927>asks for Cuck Simulator
>>738958741Most companies are evil because most retards allow them to be and keep supporting them for it. Sometimes even retards that are criticizing them ends up supporting them anyway
>>738958741Nah. Steam is shit, their support is shit. Media just ignores all the evil things valve does all the time
>>738958902It's faster to just chat with them.
>>738955357at least 1 time i can remember with VEGAS PRO 18, all license removed and no redund or money back.more games depend in the region of purchase
>>738958741Yeah, the thing is any company that isn't is a minority and rarely get as much attention compared to the regular shit most companies do.
>>738954971YOU VILL OWN NOTHINGYOU VILL NEVER BE HAPPY
>>738959502Pic unrelated, I guess? Because it contains nothing about the steam controller?
>>738958892It was nice while it lasted. As far as I'm concerned, gaming as a whole dies with him.
>>738959615Yeah, I forgot. The controller is a $5 piece of junk only up until they slap the Valve logo on it. So you're correct, the stage of production on the pic doesn't show the Steam Controller. Still needs that Valve logo on it and the corresponding price tag to be officially labelled "Steam Controller".By the way, are you excited for the Steam Frame? Pic totally not related, and totally not showing Chinese workers (of questionable age) building what appears to be a VR headset that is totally not the Steam Frame.
how many more angles will tim try before he comes to the same conclusion amazon did? keep in mind it took amazon 15 years and they "tried everything">well, my store is better for developers>well, steam is a monopoly>well, you rent your games>well, you can lose your games at any time>well, you're just buying yachts for mr. newell
Do I have to filter the word "rent" now?Fuckin christ
>>738954971FPBP
>>738959997It shows five pixels of controller that could honestly be any controller. It also shows no price. It shows fucking nothing. Of course there are factories in china making controllers. We knew that.
>>738959997How retarded are you? You can literally see what sort of controller it is from the shells in the box and it sure as fuck isn't a "Steam Frame".
>>738960093>The steamcuck is maldingStay cucked WEF drone
>>738955182finance departments don't like it when support staff do stuff like that
>you only rent gameswhat? just search the game folder, zip it, save it to a hard drive, transfer it to another computer, unzip it, and play it there, the fuck do you mean by renting it?
>>738960175>if you hate spam you're on the other sideTypical tribalist faggot troon. I agree that the license bullshit is stupid but you don't need to be a retarded ass schizo posting this in every single motherfucking thread you underaged NIGGER
>>738960205ESLs don't know what rent means
>>738959997You can literally see they're making PS2 looking bootleg controllers, reverse image search is a thing you fucking retard.
>>738955182corporations hate their customers and rebranded them as 'consumers', like how jews call everyone that isn't jewish cattle.
My only issue with steam being so good is that when gabe dies it will unironically be the gamer 9/11 with all the enshitifacation thats to follow
>>738960205>>738960275Are you retarded? Go ahead and actually try that without also signing into your Steam account first.
This shows how much profit Steam is getting for every controller purchase if they are willing to eat 70 dollars to avoid a cancellationEnjoy your 10 dollar controllers for 100 dollars rubes
>>738960449ok, what now
>>738959997>By the way, are you excited for the Steam Frame? Pic totally not related, and totally not showing Chinese workers (of questionable age) building what appears to be a VR headset that is totally not the Steam Frame.Kek you're a lying faggot, probably the colour of shit.Here's the chink companies website.https://www.temericgamejoy.com/about-us/Here's all the bootleg controllers they make.https://www.temericgamejoy.com/product-category/pc/controllers-pc/
>>738954927Stop shilling your shitty twatter account you pedophile. Jesus fucking christ. Where are the jannies? Clean this faggotry up. Buy a goddamn ad.
>>738960485You cannot possibly be so stupid to think that valve pays full price for keys they generate.
>>738960148>>738960278Yes, yes. Here are more low resolution pictures of Chinese workers making PS2 controllers in 2026. As you can see on this new five pixel picture, the worker here is assembling what is obviously a PlayStation 2 controller. The PlayStation 2 is so popular in 2026 that entire Chinese factories allocate time, space, and machines to build these exciting PlayStation 2 controllers for all the masses of people looking to buy nothing but a PlayStation 2 controller in 2026. You are 100% correct.
>>738954927So what about them withholding money from devs that already censored their game to be on the platform?
>738960684People will still reply to this (You) farming retard. Watch.
>>738960684these people are desperately shameless.
Zoomers don't know Steam is a DRM platform because they've never seen a world where you could actually buy video games, not just temporary licenses for them.
>>738960684here's a (you) from >>738960775
>>738960449If the game doesn't have any DRM (An option allowed for developers when putting the game on the store), you can just click the .exe and it runs. Even if it uses Steamworks, that shit is so hilariously easy to crack.
>>738960684https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/game-pads/steam-controller-teardown-simple-to-open-easy-to-fix/This is not what the steam controller actually looks like on the inside.
>>738960684>Yes, yes. Here are more low resolution pictures of Chinese workers making PS2 controllers in 2026. As you can see on this new five pixel picture, the worker here is assembling what is obviously a PlayStation 2 controller. The PlayStation 2 is so popular in 2026 that entire Chinese factories allocate time, space, and machines to build these exciting PlayStation 2 controllers for all the masses of people looking to buy nothing but a PlayStation 2 controller in 2026. You are 100% correct.I'm not sure what's funnier, the fact that you got caught lying, or the fact that the company you stole the picture from literally makes PlayStation 2 bootleg controllers.https://www.temericgamejoy.com/product/wired-game-pad-for-sony-ps2/Either way you're fucking brown and no one gives a fuck about your lies.
>>738954971>>738959556>>738960096Post your functioning disc collection now. Oh wait they've degraded and become paperweight.
>>738957772oh man just wait until you figure how much wallmart pays for the eggs it then sells you
>>738961238The margin is pretty small for food, even for the big boys.
>>738961326>The margin is pretty small for food, even for the big boys.Kek no it's fucking not, Walmart charges 15-20X what they pay farmers for their produce.
>>738954927>*CHOICE PARALYSIS*T-thanks Gabe
>>738955703>just trust the trillion dollar rich people brokys
>>738961326>The margin is pretty small for food, even for the big boys.This. The Waltons became one of the richest families on the planet by paying farmers fairly and offering great value to customers.It's incredible how you can build a 500 billion dollar empire in half a century through good, honest hard work!
>>738958741Pretty much, It's largely down to the fact that it's a successful, long-standing company that is still privately owned. When a company goes public, employees, customers, and products are completely forgotten about, and it's all about chasing investor dollars and subscription services.
>>738961326>The margin is pretty small for food, even for the big boys.Farmer anon here, thanks for the heartiest laugh i've had in years and I unironically hope you starve in the years to come when corporations have destroyed farming globablly.
>>738961326Margins are small for famers. Retailers and restaurants make huge margins on food.
>>738961636Where do you get 10x cheaper eggs than Walmart?
>>738961238They have to pay for refrigeration and refrigerated transportation. On top of that eating is a necessity, and if they save me the time of carrying chicken, feeding them, making sure they're not sick, cleaning the shells to avoid Salmonella, etc. Walmart is doing me (and local farmers) a big favor.Valve, on the other hand is just hyping up chinese plastic like it's the best thing ever and pocketing 20 times what they paid to make it. Then all that money goes to the owner and his yacht fleet. Living on a yacht is probably a tax evasion thing for US citizens too.Walmart creates millions of jobs. Valve creates 350-400 jobs (their number of employees). Walmart creates wealth for investors. Valve creates wealth for his owner's pockets only, as it's a private company. All the earnings go in the pursuit of its owner's luxurious lifestyle.
>>738961758Why don't you sell your own produce yourself?
>>738954927Would asking for a delisted game work?
>>738961951Your home, where you can raise chickens for cheap. For the price of a single carton of eggs from a grocery store, you could feed a chicken for a year.
>>738962239Are delisted games 'available for purchase', you illiterate retard?
>>738962318I purposefully ignored that part you nigger.
>>738961430No, the margins on food are actually shit. Grocers all work with volume. Under 10% margin is normal, and the serious discounters have profit margins of like 2%.
>>738962270Yeah, if you already invested the money to have a garden where the chicken can roam and feed itself. Guess what, commercial operations have too many chicken for this to be viable. They actually have to fucking feed them.
>>738954971Why dont you try playing your ps3 library on your ps5
>least obvious Steamsnoy shill thread
>>738955157good goy
>>738964445>console wars shitKYS
>>738963404Thats not even including loss leaders, which are essentially marketing budget via pricing.
>>738957262Now hold on a second, retard. How is Steam stealing from me? Every single transaction I do or do not do on Steam is voluntary.
>>738955310The fact Steam can afford to do that proves they are a monopoly
>>738964445My god nintendo has marketing money to burn it seems.Dont tell me you faggots do it for free.
>>738957159>30%> industry standard cutThis is propaganda. 30% is not even standard on steam, AAA pay 20%.
>>738966918THAT GAME SHOULD HAVE GONE TO AN INNOCENT SHAREHOLDER YOU HECKING STEAM CHUDS
>>738954927Cucksoles would never
Companies that stay private, like Valve, are able to do common sense PR moves like this. Did it cost them some money? Yes, but it's a pittance for the business, and more than makes up for it in getting free good publicity for the business. Companies run by psychopathic greedy retard parasites called "the shareholders" would never
>>738969709Valve shill.Are you aware that anyone can be a shareholder? You can buy stocks of whatever publicly-traded company and attend their annual meetings. You essentially own a small percentage of that company.I'd rather make my company public so everyone who invests in it can get rich as the company grows, than keep it private so I can take everything for myself and build the biggest yacht fleet in the world.Who's the psychopathic greedy parasites?
>>738969186Cucksolefags HATE this fact
>>738970430>I'd rather make my company public so everyone who invests in it can get rich as the company growsHAHnow this is such a fucking corpo shill response, good bait
>>738954927>turn fuckup into free advertisingGood marketing, I guess.
>>738970430Even after lurking threads of FOTM AAA games, this is the most ridiculous thing I have heard of.
>>738970430increasing the value of the stock is not necessarily good for the company. yet publicly traded companies are legally obligated to increase the value of their stock as fiduciary duty to their shareholders.
>>738966918You don't understand what a monopoly is. Nobody else is even trying. Amazon failed so hard that Valve was never even aware that they were a competitor until after it was announced that they were pulling out. Tim is so fucking incompetent that it took several years just to get a shopping cart added to EGS.It's pretty fucking simple. Just provide a service on par with or better than what Steam offers. Nobody has come anywhere close to providing that so consumers have no reason to stop using Steam.
>>738960883I'm honestly more inclined to buy games because of how unintrusive their DRM is, of course GOG is completely free but it's an otherwise very barebones platform, steam not giving a fuck about spacewar and creamapi and the literal one click steam drm crackers is a godsend
>>738954971100 year rent.Unless if youre immortal being thats fine by me
>>738954971Its an indefinite lease dude.The lease is effectively as long as Steam still exists. How exactly to do you expect to sell access to online games anyway? It's not like you can just walk into a physical store and buy a physical printed copy of your game on CD/DVD rom. I mean if we really get technical the file sizes of many modern games are well over 100GB, good luck fitting that on a DVD even with optimization. Anyways, I have access to several games that have long been de-listed but I still have access to them. They so far have held up their end with integrity for about 20 years now. Unless Gabe where to sell Steam off or make it a public company I don't see them changing their integrity in upholding support.If it where any other company I would get the hate, but Steam is literally the only major online software distributor that actually respects the consumers, other than GOG I guess.
>>738954971*makes a copy*oopsies
>>738954971Based. Look at all the steam troons seething.
>>738964101>Why dont you try playing your ps3 libraryAnd why don't you try playing Half Life 3 on your PC?
>>738954971FPBPlicense rentfags on suicidewatch
>>738964445based
>>738955141if heaven have all the copies of all existing video game, does that mean god pirates software too?
>>738954927>standard editionno thanks i'll pirate instead
>>738954971OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH OP GAPED!!!
>>738954971You own the files you download. Steam can't take them away from you. What you might lose is the priviledge to download those files again at a later date. Thats like saying you dont own the coca cola in your cup because you will eventually lose access to the refill machine. And even thats not true because the drink will eventually disappear by the nature of being consumed. The files on your PC are theoretically there for eternity.
