Do you think Aliens somewhere in the Universe are playing their own video games right now?
Yeah, and I bet they are better than ours
i wonder how cool skeletons in their fiction look like(if they evolved with a bone structure at all)
Do you think aliens have Tetris?
>>738960005>UFOs are real>ayys are real>you are still required to die and pay taxes to a bunch of flesh eating peds on this side of the spiral arm
No.
>>738960881This guy had a monkey come in and out of his ass in Bruce Almighty
>>738961004
>>738960963What is this from?
>>738960005their Ulysse Odyssey must be insane
>>738960005No, we are alone in the universe.
>>738961004Yeah Hector has seen some shit desu.
>>738960005I wonder what it's like near the center.
>>738961193That's not very likely.
>>738961460Probably the same as it is here. Even at the center there is still light years between each star.
>>738961460There's a wormhole with a terraforming item
>>738961460Nice because there are no smallhats and glowies.
Nah they're probably too busy killing each other and fighting their own version of jews and indians.
>>738960005No
>>738960005Yes, we are their videogayme
>>738961460Irradiated hell. Despite the massive distances space objects are still extremely deadly. Hell I remember reading about hyper active galaxies that could fry any life in their local neighbourhood
>>738960751>Bug Ayys>Shedded Exoskeleton is iconic>I've got a flake to pick with you is a meme>Mr.Exotals wild migration pattern>Shedinja is OP
>>738961551Star systems still gravitationally interact even when they're lightyears apart. Over billions of years, those small interactions cause stable orbits to change. Even our own neighbor Mercury has a (less than 1%) chance of getting flung out of the solar system in 3 billion years if its orbit lines up a little too perfectly with Jupiter's.
>some alien is probably gonna hear such classic snippets as AMBATAKUM and the average Biden speech 4000+ years from now and panic about it
If you could send a distant alien civilization 1 videogame to play what would it be?
>>738962350Bloodborne
>>738962350Mountain Blade Warband
>>738962350Garry's Mod
>>738962280>there is an alien posting in this thread right now
Hmm
>>738961460The night sky must look insane, at least.
>>738963449Must be nice to look at knowing that you still have the ability to traverse it somewhat.
>>738962350Vampire Survivors
>>738961460Just boot up Space Engine and see for yourself. It's a sick view.
>>738960881>falling for prject blue beamSend all ufo "theorists" to uranium mines
>>738963138ABDUCT MEI AM READY AND WILLINGI HAVE NO FRIENDS OR FAMILY NOR PETSNO ONE WOULD NOTICE OR CARE IF I WENT MISSINGTHIS IS MY FULL EMPHATIC INFORMED LUCID SOUND-OF-MIND CONSENT FOR ABDUCTIONBEAM ME UP, SCOTTAYYY
Great movie, watch it
>>738961105I have no clue, I think it's an overlay from an anime with Starmie's mega evolution from Z-A that was briefly memed for its appearance and ingame description.FASTER
>>738964539this but entirely unironically
>>738960881if you think taxes are bad, wait until you learn about surplus labor
>>738961460pretty sure the center is where shit like black holes typically are, plus a bunch of other hazards
>>738964003>uraniumMeme resource. Thorium is better.
>>738964539>human mating ritual
>>738960005This shit is why the Fermi """paradox""" is one of the dumbest takes of all time.
>>738960881>UFOs are realCorrect>ayys are realWrong. The U in UFO should stand for Unacknowledged.
>>738964539This is genuinely a small fear of mine like only 3 people know I exist. I am a very easy person to abduct.
>>738960005Imagine if the chance of life is unfathomably small and the entire universe is just rocks and shit except us in a random place for no apparent reason
>>738966609How do you know you haven't already...?
>>738966595Ayys are real as well.
>>738966669Even if only 0,0001% of planets had life, that would still be like billions of planets with life.
>>738966669I think the brutal fact is that FTL technology is simply impossible and no culture would want to waste collosal resources on an ark ship/generation ship
>>738960881maybe the aliens are also paying taxes to peds
>>738966669The universe is too big for that to be true
>>738966781>>738966851the chance of life per planet could be 1/(number of planets in the universe)In that case, we would only expect 1 planet with life in the universe
>>738966805Grim
>>738960005God damn it now I'm mad thinking about the aliens billions of light years away playing cool video games I'll never get to experience for myself.Fuck those assholes.
>>738967045>your state mandated Tali gf is locked somewhere behind the veil>you will never get to see her in your lifetime
>>738961549It is actually.
If we had better space propulsion, we could launch the solar gravity lens project and image individual continents on other exoplanets. That would be so cool...
>tfw you're going to be an old man on death's door right as humanity discovers warp travel and adventure to millions of alien worlds full of hot alien babesbros....................
>>738967264There are an estimated 10 septillion (10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) planets orbiting stars in the observable universe.We know or see next to nothing.
>>738967296Life and intelligent life are different things.
>>738966669>Imagine if the chance of life is unfathomably smallThere's nothing to suggest that.
>>738967045There are aliens someone having this exact same thread right now.There are aliens lusting after us and jealously thinking about our video games.There are aliens that don't know their video game industry sucks just as many balls as ours.
aliens are watching Ally McBeal
>>738967340SINGLE FEMALE LAWYER
Imagine if we make contact with aliens and everyone's epecting them to be crazy looking creatures we can't even imagine and once they finally reveal themselves they're just evolved apes that look slightly different from usThen we keep exploring the universe and find more alien species, and all of them are apes without exception, every planet has one ape species that evolves intelligence
>>738967285>tfw you're the last human to die before the immortality serum is discovered
>>738967402Single Female LawyerFighting for her clientWearing sexy mini skirtsAnd being self reliant
>>738967495Imagine if they look exactly like us but just in different colors. Like instead of white and black and yellow skin they only have skin colors that humans on earth don't have. I wonder how that would effect global racism.
>>738967495>Charlton Heston is no longer alive to see thisMaybe it was for the best desu. He'd go full TMD on those damn dirty apes otherwise.
>>738961193>>738967264Brainlet take A: there are no aliens, we are alone in the universe, nigdegrass tyson said so.Brainlet take B: there are aliens and they are among us, area 51 duuuude, I got probed on DMT and I saw a ufo fly up epstein's ass.Intelligent take: it is both improbable that there are no aliens and that we ever interact with them as a species.
when i look into space all i think of is how many other planets estonians could be on instead of mine
>>738967495ape sex
>>738961460This is a 20-year time lapse of stars at the galactic centerThe local influence of our galaxy's supermassive black hole, Sagittarius A*, can be clearly seenThe central star, over 10 times more massive than the Sun, makes a complete orbit over the 20-year-period, and is accelerated to over 2% the speed of light (>10,000,000mph) at its closest approach, passing about 4 times further from the black hole than Neptune's distance from the Sun
>>738967495aka Star Trek
>>738960005Im sure they have recreational activities and hobbies.I mean someone else out there has to at least have air hockey and skee ball if not straight up vidya games.Come to think of it i wanna see an alien arcade. I actually bet alien skeeball is fun as fuck
>>738967630this except me and every sexy babe on earth having a planet all to ourselves and also they all love me and are desperate for sex (with me)
>>738967495Nah, I'm expecting us to be a lucky coincidence and most sentient species are more robust forms of life. Like long lived deep sea sponges that accidentally grew neurons.
>>738960005They must be real if the government told me so! I don't care about the demon worshipping pedophiles in power!
>>738967630>there is a planet somewhere out in the void that is filled with nothing but AlbaniansAye siwmae how horrifying
>>738960005Imagine we find aliens and their planet looks like india.
>>738960005Better question, how far can radio broadcasts go before they're so weak they're indistinguishable from cosmic background radiation?
Aliens might have no concept of what "playing" or "game" even mean.
>>738967867At the rate they are breeding, when aliens find our planet thats basically what they will see.
>>738967687There are somewhat intelligent sea creatures on earth but they can't develop tools or build complex structures because the sea impedes them too much, can't really have suitable limbs if your body needs to be adapted to life in the ocean. Like even if an orca had the IQ to build a hammer in theory it wouldn't be able to do it due to basic anatomical constraints
>>738967867Imagine the smell
>>738967598Well skin color doesn't have much to do with racism my friend so i dont think different colored people would change much.I mean you dont hate jews because theyre mostly white, you hate them because they have a god awful fucking culture and fuck up everything they touch.Ive never disliked a black person because they were black but i hate nigs who steal and start fight at fuckin waffle house. I mean is not being dark skinned thats the issue with racism its the behavious and cultures that make you hate them.Racism is way more than skin deep.
>>738967618>Intelligent take: it is both improbable that there are no aliensAliens as in bacteria and fish things but there is nothing to suggest intelligent life is out there.
>>738967927True, but if another planet has funny looking dolphins that are smart enough to write poetry, those are still aliens. We'll just end up enslaving them probably, once we find a way to get there.
>>738968207>dream of going into space and fucking hot alien babes>all of the alien babes are dolphins and shit
>>738968035>there is nothing to suggest intelligent life is out there.It might be a little niche but have you heard of this hip new thing called humanity
>>738967330there's nothing to suggest not that
>>738968269jackpot
>>738968269>all of the alien babes are dolphins and shit
>>738968283https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare_Earth_hypothesis
>>738968035>Aliens exist but they're all only as advanced as us so there's literally no way for us to detect them or even go meet them due to the distances involved. What if there is no super sci-fi advancement and where we're at is where technology ends
>>738968548No one's arguing that it's rare.The moderate take among many researchers is 1 intelligent alien species per galaxy
>>738968548>There is no possible way intelligent life exists throughout the trillions of observable galaxies because we are so super duper special :)
>>738968707>where we're at is where technology endsObviously not true we're still making new shit every few years.
i prefer the excuse that intelligent life eventually self destructs by whatever means, intentionally or unintentional
Somewhere an alien is jerking off right now
>>738968730So rare it might have happened only once.>The moderate take among many researchers is 1 intelligent alien species per galaxyUh no that isn't moderate at all. The fact is the idiot general population likes the idea of aliens and the only argument for it is DUDE NUMBERS but many scientists who actually think about this problem seriously have come to the same grim conclusion. We are alone.
>>738968815>because we are so super duper special :)Lucky is a better word but nice try.
>>738968035Impossibly brainlet take. There are fish things but they didn't evolve because ??How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
>>738968956Your post reminds me of a science event in Stellaris, where you discover the fossilized remains of alien farmers that absorbed all the minerals in their food into their exoskeletons, leeching it from the soil over time causing them to die of starvation after the crops stopped growing.
>>738969098Nah.
>>738969179>There are fish things but they didn't evolve because ??I dunno maybe the 20 mile sheet of ice above the ocean.
>>738968548>look at the moon and mars>nothing here>well I guess we've looked everywhere and tried everything>presenting: the I-Must-Be-Right-We-Need-To-Give-Up hypothesisGet these philosonybros out of here. No shit there's no Earth like planets discovered, we can barely even image planets multiple times the size of Jupiter.
>>738967045>aliens have their own gamergate>alien games were good until they got pozzed by their female species>there are green aliens bitching about woke devs inserting blue aliens on ayyyy-chan right now
>>738969276The aliens should have had billions of years head start. They should have had self replicating probes spreading everywhere. We see nothing. We should be bombarded by billions of broadcasts from long dead civilizations. We hear nothing.
The unobservable universe is calculated to be at least 12 million times bigger than the observable universe, btw.
>>738969517A whole lot of nothing over there too.
>>738960881Days like this make me wish I was an orangutan
I think aliens and planets with life are very possible but they live at a very primitive levelSuper mega ultra rare: other planets with lifeSuper mega ultra OMEGA rare: planets with life that goes beyond microscopic level (so primitive creatures like the dinosaurs or something)Super mega ultra OMEGA impossible rare: planets with civilization like ours (sapient animal species)I feel like humans are literally 1 in a infinitellion chances
My headcannon is that microbial life is present enough in the universe, but I think too many people assume single cell life must eventually become something more complicated. In earth's history, literally every single multicellular being has the same common ancestor to some original eukaryotic cell. It's not like every other single cell organism stopped evolving in that time.
>>738967285Even if that were possible (it's not) humanity is going nowhere with globohomo gauranteeing permanent stagnation and mediocrity.
>>738968730>have no data>make up number >call this researchThis is like some Neanderthals meeting around the campfire ca. 50,000 years ago. None of them have ever seen any sign of other intelligent species so they conclude Neanderthals are the only intelligent species on Earth
>>738969517My alien soulmate is out there thinking about me right now.And I'm thinking about her.
>>738969517i believe itbut ultimately meaningless considering the already ridiculously grand scale of the observable universeand that it's probably just filled with more of what we see in our observable universe up to the hypothetical edge that's ever expanding
>>738969517that's not even counting higher spatial dimensions such as whatever objects are hiding behind black holes to cause them to have such mass
>>738969460>We should be bombarded by billions of broadcasts from long dead civilizationsAfter a certain distance broadcasts and signals become undetectable background noise.Going at the speed of light would take us 2.5 million to reach the closest galaxy. Going half that speed would take us 5 million years. Travel between galaxies isn't realistic. Hypothetical magical self-replicating robots won't change that.
>>738969678And the dinosaurs ruled this planet for hundreds of millions of years with no end in sight but an incredibly lucky event happened (for us) and a asteroid wiped the dino's out and these weird little rat things flourished. It created the mammal lineage and eventually the ape-things came into being. A fucking rock smashing into the planet is the only reason this still isn't a dumb dinosaur planet.
I'm all in for some blue alien pussy even if that means I become their guinea pig for them to pee at me with their fingers
>>738969890>Hypothetical magical self-replicating robots won't change that.There's nothing magical about probes that move from one system to the next, auto mine resources and create more of themselves. This is theoretical science that is possible. And since some of these Aliens are billions of years in the future of us they could build it.
>>738969460We don't have any means to detect anything. It's not like looking with binoculars into your neighbors house.
>>738970091yeah it's way too hard for a civilization to riseFermi's paradox goes into super mega deep advanced civilization but I think you don't even need to go beyond the very basic level
>>738970286They should already be here.
>speed of light is hilariously gimped that you can't possibly travel fast enough to meet another intelligent life in the entire lifetime of a civilization>if it's just 1 percent faster or slower, the laws of physics would bend so much that we will never existThe Demiurge truly has a sick sense of humor
>>738960881Based. I voted for it
>>738970406Huuuhhh warps?Time travel?Is it even theoretically impossible?These are the only two things that would allow us to cheat the speed of light, but...
>>738970275If a species started doing that 20 million years ago "just" 56 galaxies away from us, we won't ever see or meet them. Now imagine if they started doing it 1.4 million galaxies away from us.The universe is just too big.
>>738970091that's assuming intelligent life always needs the same parameters to existwe have a sample size of 1 (one) planet, it's not like we have any way of knowing what it takes for life to evolve in any specific way, we can only talk about what happened hereit's possible to theorize a more streamlined evolution, like on a hypothetical planet maybe there were never any dinosaurs, and small mammals were among the first species to inhabit the land due to the climate
>>738970368Why? the universe is only a few billion years old, that's practically nothing, if we assume intelligent life is rare why not assume it would take time for aliens to even reach the point we're at?
Is human or humanoid-like the only possible outcome for a species to become sentient and develop like we did?
>>738970368Why? It would take them longer to come here than Universe has existed, unless they started really close.
It'd be cool if there were other places with humanity and it's just currently impossible to know
>>738970523>If a species started doing that 20 million years agoTry billions of years.
>>738969460>>738970275>self replicating resource gathering probesCareful what you wish for
>>7389704925D spacetime would be enough to allow it, just find a way to access the 4th dimension and travel within it to reach a distant point in out universe
>>738970492Warping is pretty hard. No only do you need to warp, but you need to accelerate to and maintain the inertial velocity of whatever location you are warping to, since it will certainly be different from where you came from.
>>738970406Always makes me laugh when people claim this universe was designed to support life.Fucking everywhere in the universe is instant death, it's impossible within the laws of physics to get from one star to another, and the chances are you're living on the only habitable rock in your system because so many things have to go right. The life that exists survives by the skin of its teeth and only by devouring other life.Then one day a big rock plows into your rock, and everyone dies.God was clearly trying to make a universe devoid of life, but life found a way. Maybe that's why he tried to drown us all. When that didn't work he gave up and started a new server.
>>738970763>It would take them longer to come here than Universe has existedHow do you know that?
>>738960005Most definitely, just based on the size of the universe.
>>738970807If a species started doing that 2 billion years ago "just" 1 million galaxies away from us, let's say at half the speed of light, they would not have crossed even 1% of the distance between us.
>>738970492The one thing working in your favor is that time slows down as you approach the speed of light. So if you went fast enough maybe time would slow down enough that you could reach another planet in your lifetime. The downside is that time doesn't slow down anywhere else, so from the perspective of Earth it still takes you millions of years to reach your destination.
>>738971060so I do reach the other side of the galaxy while remaining young but the Solar System is now gone?
>>738963512>Must be nice to look at knowing that you still have the ability to traverse it somewhat.You can get anywhere in the universe within your own lifetime if you can just accelerate consistently.
>>738960005They probably have shit taste in games anyway
Reminder that they made a 1-1 galaxy in elite dangerous, where every player has an ftl ship, and they've only explored 0.06 percent of the galaxy in a stupid game, not even real life
>>738970884Because the Universe is very big, and the likelihood of them starting right next to us is very small. There are an estimated amount of 2 trillion galaxies in the observable universe.
>>738960881But capitalism is the only real option that works
>>738971249We know it's big but you seem to know the speed they travel.
>>738961460There's a black hole in the center
>>738971297Can't go faster than light, and I doubt your magical self-replicating robots would go anywhere near that speed. But even at lightspeed starting merely 10,000 galaxies away from us, they would be nowhere near us even if they started billions of years ago. Now consider that there are 2 trillion galaxies out there.We are not alone, but we will also most likely never meet anyone, robot or flesh.The Universe is just too big blud.
Dark Forest + Great Filter believer here >Humanity evolves at an extreme rate>We needed millions of years from walking to discovering fire, to a couple dozen from the industrial revolution to building atom bombs and AI>this geometric rate of evolution ensures humanity will be out and into the stars in no time compared to the age of the universe >this makes humanity a threat, as we will have expanded all throughout the galaxy within a few million years or even less the rate we are advancing>the energy resources of the universe are finite and the energy requirements will keep increasing exponentially to maintain a civilization that big>therefore other alien civilizations see us becoming a threat and fighting for the same resources eventually, so their most logical course of action is to kill that baby in the crib by destroying our sun or collapsing our dimensionality/reality>some alien Janny just roams the skies looking for potential threats by looking at our radio waves pinpointing exactly where we are, and hitting the big red buttonIt's a cold universe out there, our best course of action is to just hide our footprints
>>738960081I bet they put our woke people to shame
>>738970615Who knows but I wouldn't be surprised if elephant-like intelligent beings exist, all you really need is a free appendage that can manipulate tools.
Genuinely irritates me I'm born in the era just before interstellar travel starts being taken seriously. I will never see the peak of humanity and it pisses me off
>>738967503>immortality serumWhether you like it or not, humanity's future is in becoming cyborgs or purely digital/silicon creatures. I think Earth will house 3 distinct breeds of human in the coming centuries:>Baseline: Mostly unmodified humans aside from gene modification to cure diseases, uses wearable tech to interact with the world>Upgraded: Humans with varying degrees of tech integration, ranging from basic brain-computer-interfaces to replacing some or all of the brain with silicon replacements>Transcended: Digital beings not originating in biology. Could include digital "clones" of humans or AI beings. Hard to confirm if they're actually conscious or not.
what if aliens are like scramblers? what if conciousness is an exclusive earth phenomena?, an evolutionary dead end?
wouldnt any object going light speed just fucking smash into atoms and fuse with them causing explosionsis there even any solid material that could even withstand that?how would such an object avoid larger space material like asteroids, planets and such?
>>738967045They're thinkin the same shit probably
>>738971607Why do you think it would be exclusively an earth phenomena?
Another issue with the universe is that it's expanding (maybe) and keeps expanding and if you believe in the heat death of the universe then it expands faster than the speed of light
>>738967285The reality is advancements like that would require unified global cooperation and most of humanity is too short sighted and retarded for that. Humanity literally hinders its own progress cause most humans are too fucking stupid to see past their shoes
>>738970406You can get anywhere in the universe just by accelerating close to the speed of light, within your lifetime. The problem is that depending on the distance, the rest of the universe will experience thousands to millions more years than you do during your trip.
>>738971495>Can't go faster than lightOh please, you don't know that, nobody knows that. Our tech right now can barely get to the moon in a tin can. There are so many question marks in physics it's absurd to make a definitive statement like that.
>>738966042FASTER!!
>>738967495I used to think it was insane how all those anime games about space travel *always* have humanoids on different planets/galaxies, but then I guess it kinda makes sense, if this form is the only way for intelligent life to develop
>>738962350civilization 2
>>738969167And you earnestly believe this dice roll occurred no where else at all ever
>>738971248>Reminder that they made a 1-1 galaxy in elite dangerousimagine believing that.
>>738962350those mfs would go crazy for tetris
>>738971504>space janny sees our broadcasts>accelerates a big rock to 99.99999% the speed of light towards Earth >we physically cannot even see it until it's like 20 days away because the light from its launch arrives at basically the same time as the rock itself
>>738969460Just cause you can't hear it doesn't mean it's not there, it's entirely possible we're receiving signals but lack the technology to grasp it
>>738971918What if it was so improbable it happened only once?
>>738971796The fundamental forces themselves propagate at c. Electromagnetic waves move at c. Gravity waves move at c. Massless particles (like photons) move at c. The speed of light is not a suggestion.
>>738972006so farthere's infinite time for every nonzero possibility to occur
>>738972006Possible, but I don't see any reason to put too much faith in that, I think us being here makes it much more likely that there are others among the 2 trillion galaxies out there.
>>738972027>The speed of light is not a suggestionCorrect. But you said nothing can go faster.
>>738971650because having the necessary faculties to develop space travel successfully doesn't seem to depend on conciousness, it's at most training wheels for it. after a certain point, space travel is just too dangerous for the concept of self to not be a detriment.
>>738972104Well one is comforting and the other isn't so of course the majority will go with that. I'm more interested in the truth. And it sure is quiet out there.
>>738970368Space is mostly empty. Galaxies are roughly 1 million to 10 million light-years apart. If you include the massive void of intergalactic space, the trip across just 1000 galaxies would take billions of years, even at the speed of light.
>our best estimate is that the universe is 13-14 billion years old>theory says the last star will die in 100 trillion years>compared to a human lifespan we are a few seconds old baby>dude were are all the other intelligent races lmaowe might be the first and only intelligent race the universe is so fucking big and old that the next intelligent race might appear 50 million years from now in a galaxy 500 million lightyears awayeverything is free for the taking and we're not moving
>space is too big for light travelwhy not just quantum tunnel our way through>inb4 quantum travel testing accidentally triggers vacuum decay
Even if we could travel at the speed of light, it's still too fucking slow for anything meaningful. It's such a slap in the face it almost feels like some higher being intentionally kneecapped this universe so we can never ascend to their level. We're probably ant farm tier to some higher entity
>>738972193The reality is that alien life is all but guaranteed, while at the same time them being physically close enough to ever interact with us electromagnetically, let alone physically, is extremely unlikely. And even if we did physically meet aliens it would probably just be a probe or a grey goo swarm. Space is just too big and too empty.
>>738972220Speed of light limit is only a limit we believe is true with only a hundred years or so of real physics research. That doesn't impress me much when we are talking about theoretical aliens who have been around much longer.
>>738972295We get to be the precursors? What kind of retarded in-jokes should we hide in our monuments to confuse our inheritors? Loss? Gold plated Sonichu comics?
>>738971141The light from the stars we see every night took millions of years to travel across space and reach Earth.Some of the events and lights we’re witnessing today actually happened during the age of the dinosaurs. Many of those stars are already gone, and what we’re seeing now is their final light before they disappeared forever.so, yeah, maybe not the system but the Sun could have already destroyed earth by the time you finished traveling back through space.
>>738972334vacuum decay could have already started somewhere in the universe, with that bubble of unreality propagating outwards at the speed of light
>>738969678It's probably true that all eukaryotes evolved from one common ancestor, but the incorporation of a proto-mitochondria into a cell wasn't necessarily a one-time miraculous event. It's likely that the LUCA was only the most fit and out-competed others of its community, and similar organisms may have formed earlier but failed to proliferate.The fundamental principle of an organism becoming an integrated part of another cell has happened multiple times in Earth's history; plants evolved when the same process occurred to form the chloroplast.Symbiogenesis also seems to be more complex than multicellularism itself, which has independently evolved many times among eukaryotes (and even among prokaryotes). Animals share only one common ancestor, but several different sorts of plants and fungi evolved separately.
>>738972370The GameYou just lost it.
>>738972334Quantum tunneling is incredibly short range.We use it to make semiconductors work.
I wonder if aliens would partake in hot and intense raw human sex, haha, yeah, because I would be willing to fuck an alien, and like, you can also do weird probe butt stuff but only if you are cute and promise me that it is not gay.Beam me up baby I'm ready to get studied if you catch my drift, haha.
>>738969221Nice, that means for us, we'll die out because we're gonna become 50% plastic in 1,000 years.
>>738972193We don't have any actual means to detect life. Signals become undetectable background noise after a certain distance. It will be quiet to us forever, even if there is lots of life in the Universe, unless we get unbelievably lucky somehow.At most we can look at exoplanets in our own galaxy (not in other galaxies) and see that some of them might have ingredients for life. James Webb Space Telescope cannot directly see or resolve individual exoplanets in other galaxies. Those worlds are too small, and the distances are far too great.
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>>738972452Would be very disappointing if the first intelligent species we make first contact with don't reproduce sexually like we do, and would instead do so by budding or some shit.
>>738972370I mean at some point we'll be able to run simulations of universes so you'll be able to fuck with the inhabitants however you want. You think we won't make the Sims but with entire universes of sentiments if given the tech to do so?
>>738972601*sentients
>>738969873You of all people should know. It's just your mom.
>invent engine capable of constant acceleration >go in the same direction for 30 days>reach the end of the universe>ha and they didn't believe me it would work>get back again a month later>earth is gone, the sun got old and became a white dwarf
It's manifold astronomically unlikely that there are (i) "aliens" which are both sentient and (ii) evolved in a manner that led to video gaming being a thing, as well as (iii) have existed in the same, relatively infinitesimal timeframe that video gaming has been a thing on Earth.
>>738972580Maybe they just do mitosis.
>>738972718>the very second you hit accelerate everyone you know is now dead
>>738972430Imagine a civilization millions of years from now seeing such a message and spending many thousands of years trying to decipher its meaning since it's the only message they managed to recover from us, never to know since we're all dead.
>>738972486Maybe YOU’ll die out but I’m on my way to become a forever humanWhile all yall niggas are crying pissing and shitting yourselves over microplastics, I’m already at MACROplasticsI will replace my blood with BPA, my bones with UHMW, my skin with silicone, my organs with PTFE and muscles with nylon and will become eternalI’ll be there on the day humanity dies and I’ll be there laughing
>>738972805>From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me
>>738972743I often forget how ridiculously massive the sun is compared to earth and how ridiculously minuscule our sun is compared to other stars.
>>738972580I mean even if they reproduce sexually, there's no indication we'd be compatible. Maybe they just kinda hug each other with sperm coming from the pores and then the woman shits out a million pinball sized eggs from her hole that's too small for any human cock (even yours). Or maybe they grow on her back like those frogs. Or she has teeth down there and rips out your cock and balls to fertilize herself. I dunno.
>watch star wars>there is a galaxy wide empire>everyone is zipping and zooming around with flt drives>no time dilution to speak ofimmersion ruined how would such an empire even work, with people and ships disappearing and reappearing with thousands of years in between?
>>738972743it's fun how mercury and mars has the same gravity because mercury has more metal inside itMINE IT ALL NOW
>>738972859I simply rub my penis on her until I coom.Humanity perseveres once again.
>>738972580Sex is a huge boost for evolution, combining two sets of genes into one for much more variance and the whole reward/competition factor of sex are more levers evolution can play with. I think sex reproduction is common where ever life is stable.The big question is if the advantages of sex are required to eventually make intelligence or if that can come about with more simple types of reproduction.
>>738973047>mine all mercury>it becomes lighter>fucks off from the solar system/crashes into the sun>this fucks up all the other orbits in the solar system>everyone dies
>>738972960Hyperspace is a fictional dimension outside real space where relativity doesn't apply. There is no immersion to be had except for how much of the Star Wars universe you're willing to take seriously.
>>738973048You might as well rub it on anything at that point.
>>738973140mercury has no effect on the rest of the systemit is made for being turned into a mining factory
>>738972718How the fuck would government/politics/economics even work assuming we get ships capable of this? It honestly seems like 40k is the most realistic depiction with it basically being space feudalism.
>>738973404at first a big wild west gold rush, every nation sending out colony ships to individual star systemsa golden age that last a couple of hundred yearsand then back to forever war, now on a planetary scale
>>738973140The only planet that even matters for solar system dynamics is Jupiter, and even it is only 0.1% of the total mass of the solar system. The sun is fucking huge.
Something that's kind of fucked to think about is that on the timescale of the Earth, humans evolved fairly late. Earth has been around 4.5 billion years, and they say that because the sun is gradually becoming more luminous in about 700 million years things will get so messed up that plants can no longer perform photosynthesis and it'll just be super hot.And we know early life originated at least 3.7 billion years ago.So life managed to get something intelligent started on Earth after taking 80% of the time before the sun will start making it near impossible.
>>738973608>The sun is fucking hugeNot so sure about that chief, shit looks pretty fucking small out of my window
>>738973739What makes you think we're the first intelligent life to emerge in all that time?
>>738974021the dinosaurs were around for 100m years and didn't invent shit
>>738973739That makes it sound like we don't have much time but really we have an incredible amount. The oldest known city is 9 thousand years old. That's it. Less than 10k years we went from traveling nomads killing large game to landing on the moon and the internet. Ten thousand years.So if we have 700 million more years of habitable earth that's pretty much infinite at our tech advancement rate to figure out a way to colonize a new planet with a younger sun or maybe even extend earths life by moving its orbit further away.I think Humanity's biggest threat is humanity itself, It's far more likely we destroy ourselves or this planet before the sun is ever a problem.
>>738974248There was a lot of time before dinosaurs. If humans all died today all evidence of our existence would be gone within a few hundred million years.
>>738973976this you?
Something to consider is how recent our reign over this planet actually is. We are millions of years after the era of the dinosaurs. Imagine if instead of dying out, dinosaurs had evolved higher intelligent and developed tool use to become the first civilization. If you believe that all empires are doomed to fail eventually, then their civilization could have risen and fallen millions of times over before we ever entered the scene. Now, imagine this is the case for an alien world out there and happening at the same time. A scenario where there was no reroll for the dominant species, and the first ones to evolve went on to be intelligent life forms. We would be so far displaced from that species that they could be long gone and not even their ruins remain on their home world. It's possible that there is some civilization out there that has existed for millions of years, but the odds seem low. The may have experienced a societal collapse or some other mass extension event ages before we ever discover their existence. Also take into account how long dinosaurs existed with no technological advancement. It's not a guarantee that life will choose intelligence as the solution to the evolutionary arms race. The life we come across may be majority animalistic in nature. Also if an alien species had visited Earth at some point, it is likely that they saw a planet on fire, frozen or inhabited by primitive lifeforms, which has been the state of the world for the vast majority of its existence, and left after determining there was nothing of interest to be found here.
>>738974302Not saying humanity is short on time, now that we intellegence our progress is exponential. But it took the randomness of nature that long to get here, if it even took a little bit longer things would be different. And likely could go down that way on other planets.Steps like multicellular life could be such a hard leap to make even if life on other planets does exist that it stalls everything out before the equivalent of their Cambrian explosion could happen
>>738962350Xcom
>>738974339>If humans all died today all evidence of our existence would be gone within a few hundred million years.Enough of our stuff would stand the test of time because of how they don't break down, there is nuclear waste as evidence of us being there, and we probably basically made out own "fossil" record in landfills and mining activities.Also whatever we left on the moon and satellites in high orbit are basically staying there untouched forever until the sun consumes it.
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>>738974857yeah. if there was a precursor civilization on earth they never made it past the mud hut stage.
>>738974857The moon is a valid point, as are some satellites like the Voyager units. But on Earth if we're looking at hundreds of millions of years nothing will remain.
>>738974606Ah I see what your saying I agree. It is troubling how long it took evolution to reach here. It really reinforces just how blind and uncaring it is about anything but reproducing.
>>738971523No one will take it seriously. Even if it did iy would still be the same.>slums on Earth>I dream of Mars>slums on Mars>I dream of EarthWhat about megastructures you never get to see the outside of? Like never having seen running water or actual trees
>>738971624>wouldnt any object going light speed just fucking smash into atoms and fuse with them causing explosionsYes. Going at any significant fraction of the speed of light would expose you to hard gamma rays from everything in your path. All incoming light/radiation becomes higher-frequency (more dangerous) due to the Doppler effect, and any actual matter would get instantly, violently annihilated>is there even any solid material that could even withstand that?Any physical matter that collides at relativistic speed stops being whatever it was before and becomes high-energy gamma ray plasma>how would such an object avoid larger space material like asteroids, planets and such?Space is extremely empty. If you just picked any random direction to go in, you would very likely leave the galaxy without ever intercepting another object.But even in space there are still a few atoms per meter on average, and colliding with them would constantly irradiate (and erode) your craft. If you were extremely unlucky enough to collide with a small asteroid, say the size of a brick, it would release more energy than our most powerful nuclear weapons.
>>738961551
I was shocked to learn Earth will probably be uninhabitable in 500 million years. Not from the sun going apeshit and swallowing up the Earth that comes later, just from some basic "Sun gets a bit brighter we all die". 500 million years ago was when ealy life started to come onto land, so in theory life will get to live for 1 billion years but given the total earth life span is 4 million years before and 5-7.5 billion years life only getting to exist for 10% or so of the time is surprising. Saw that some manlet version of a sun might actually be longer living so if life gets to appear there it'll have more time.>>738966782I just see the anthropomorphic and pessimistic view of alien life stupid. Hawkings thinking Aliens will be the same as unwashed Spanish conquistadors motivated by shiny yellow metal and converts to help against the Turks. Or the idea that because life on earth expands exponentially if given the room to grow that aliens will behave like an unthinking virus and do the same. Meanwhile our birth rates are declining by willing consent and we have lots of the world we could mindlessly expand into but aren't.You see it here - >>738969460
>>738972743Was waiting for Gurren Lagann in that clip
>>738975549>Saw that some manlet version of a sun might actually be longer living so if life gets to appear there it'll have more time.K-types, which are one step below the Sun on the heat scale in terms of spectral classes. Hotter and less prone to atmosphere killing flares than red dwarves, but slower burning than G types (ours)
>>738972580I'd still try to stick my dick in
>>738975302Man physics is rad.Basically the only feasible way for light speed travel without disaster is magically transform mass into massless matter, shoot at light speed and then magically reform into massed matter at destination. Basically impossible given our current models.Even then thats just light speed, which is relatively slow. Sure the observer feels it instant but then so much time would have passed.
>>738967285>born just in time for VR force-feedback procedurally generated AI waifus
>>738961460I've been there, it sucks
>>738960005No, I don't believe in modern fairytales.
>>738960005so how did the camera get there?
>>738972746There really should be more mitosis porn.
>the galaxy is abundant with lifeLikely>intelligent life is everywhereUnlikely. The most probable scenario is that the most advanced lifeform in most star systems with life is as advanced as pic related.
>>738971642Are they thinking we're dickheads too? Man they really are a bunch of dickheads.
>>738976186>he thinks they're going to let him have anything of the sort Your only entertainment will be watching the goybox in your pod after your 18 hour factory shifts and you WILL be happy, or else
>>738976595There will always be a dominant species, something that will outsmart and surpass every other competitor, an apex.Is likely that the strongest apex will be just as intelligent as us if not more because superior intelligence is the most broken of all evolutionary traits and there is no way that evolution won't eventually give an animal high intelligence.
>>738960005How do we even get this picture tho
>>738977320I went into space and took it and then came back.
>>738977219The dinosaurs were around for a hundred million years and the smartest ones were comparable to a dog. Get into a room with a T-rex and we'll see what the apex is.
earth is flat, no footage of a full ascent, ufo/paranormal phenomena are ULTRATERRESTIALS, intelligence without ego, messengers of deception.
>>738977320They are all fake, merely recreations based on data not actual pictures.
>>738977543If humans and dinosaurs existed in the same time period we would still be the apex.
>>738977567meds not taken today
>>738977567Earth is not flat because flat is justice and earth is simply unfair.
Growing up and knowing the cold hard truth that we're going to be stuck in this solar system fucking sucks. Take me back to when I was a kid and thought space travel and (friendly) hot aliens were a thing.
there are three paths for the future of humansthe stupid one is that we destroy ourselvesthe easy one is to escape into VR and never leaving earthand the hard one, actually beginning to explore and colonize the galaxy
>>738961460Lots of old stars iircBut they tend to live way longer than our sun
>>738978501>the easy one is to escape into VR and never leaving earthIt's probably easier to find a way to travel outside our solar system than fully understanding our brain
>>738978456When I was a kid I thought having a blue star as the sun would be cool. Then I learned that those stars die way before life has a chance to develop and will take any planet with it in a supernova.Even before that the planet would be covered in intense radiation from the star
Hey, Kodos this NPC is well written. It's almost like he knows.
>>738978456Friendly hot aliens could still be a thing
>>738961552i understood that reference
>>738960881https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5lAY6oO8YE
Unfortunately I think that any alien with the capacity of space travel would be hostile.
>>738978501none of these will happen>they can't rule over radioactive ashes and dead men>why give slaves amusements?>never happening unless they are goneWe are never leaving this rock suspended in the void. Given how we ended up at this point, it's probably for the best.
>>738970406It's a lot of coincidences isn't it? Without the limit God knows what would have happened in the early universe
>>738972336>almost feels like some higher being intentionally kneecapped this universeY'all will think of anything but God
>>738979306never said that
>>738977652Humans wouldn't have a chance to appear if dinosaurs were still around because any mammal bigger than a rat would be eaten. It took a literal act of god to nerf the dinoGODS and give mammalcucks a chance.
>>738977219>There will always be a dominant species, something that will outsmart and surpass every other competitor, an apex.That's not really true. There are animals that dominate their niche in their own ecosystem and lack (typical) predators of their own, but still face competition. Lions still have to compete with hyenas for food and territory, as do bears and wolves. Orcas are extremely intelligent and successful marine predators that have spanned the global ocean for millions of years, yet many similar species fulfilling similar roles still exist, completing and thriving alongside them.There's no prehistoric analogue for the total uncontested dominance of the global ecosystem exercised by humans. The spread of humanity out of Africa directly caused the global extinction of almost every other species capable of threatening us in mere tens of thousands of years. Even before the development of agriculture and civilization, let alone the industrial revolution, humans had profoundly impacted the world as no other animal has done before.
>>738961460That's where anime is real.
>>738979721humanfags when algae just decide to stop oxygenating the atmosphere
>>738979605There were medium-large mammals during the mesozoic period, humans would definitely still manage to exist given enough time.
>>738979595I was generalizing
>>738979721Humans are the only apex predator that can hunt other apex predators for fun.
>galaxies start to grow mature>too many stars in the center>they get too close and start heating each other up>the first star explodes>triggers more star explosions>the galaxy center becomes a nuclear bomb>the chain reaction stops further out when the distance between stars is bigger>but the damage is done>a huge shockwave of radiation is now spreading out through the galaxy>any life in the outer systems has 50-100k years to leave before getting sterilized
>>738980089orcascatsdogs
>>738967753>baaaaw exploring god's creation is jewish propagandaFuck you brownoid.
>>738976186>computer, generate the most painless method of suicide. disengage safety protocols. call mom.
>>738980189I would like to clarify that we hunt EVERY other apex predator for fun, you will never see an Orca get out of the water to go and chomp on a lion's ass, but you will see humans go and kill virtually any animal just for a taste test.
>>738974409Maybe
>>738979159>We are never leaving this rock suspended in the void.Not as we are. China is pouring money into creating superior humans while the west is busy trying to make their degenerated permanent talmuddic slave underclass. One of these concepts is clearly better than the other and in a few generations after their modifications begin breaching the median, they will probably go on to purge most of the planet before fucking off into space.
>>738979942Not even trying to "humans are EPIC" redditpost but this is just realityOrcas might be as intelligent as us, but they're simply not capable of doing what we can doDinosaurs collectively dominated the Earth for two hundred million years before mammals took over. No species of dinosaur ever caused a mass extinction by hunting and killing 95% of all other dinosaurs larger than it from the moment it stepped onto a new continent.That's what humans have done in the "age of mammals." And that was just the beginning, when we killed every giant elephant and had to start settling down and eating grass. Or going in the water.
>>738979979Mesozoic mammals were little shits that lived in fear of dinosaurs and burrowed in the ground and ran up trees.
>>738968970To underage aliens
>>738960005>why haven't they called us back yet???
>>738969460>We should be bombarded by billions of broadcasts from long dead civilizations. We hear nothing.Anon, even 100 millions light year is nothing and yet 100 millions years for a civilisation is so fucking long
>>738969460>The aliens should have had billions of years head startBullshit. It took billions of years after the big boom for stars and planets to form, before even the base building blocks for life could form. It didn't somehow happen faster elsewhere.
>>738981145There are galaxies and stars much older than ours and in turn planets. Yes life could have had a billion(s) year head start.
>>738972743I thought it would end with a "your mom"
>>738980758>Orcas might be as intelligent as uswhy you say dumb shit
>>738971761>Have a alien gf who's living in another galaxy>From your perspective, the trip will take 5 minutes>For here it will be 15000 gazillions year>Time to get there she's already walled
Just wanna point out that our galaxy is at most 100,000 light years across. Your image is retarded.
>>738980805Some mammals ate small dinosaurs, they weren't large but not all of them were small like mice.
>>738981442>source: Ive been there and saw it with my very own eyes
>>738981484Right some were like a racoon. Still pathetic scavengers.
>>738967285>See them making some big advancements right now in Cancer research thanks to AI>Dad just died of CancerShitty feeling. I was hoping he would be able to hold out till they discovered new treatments, because it feels like we're going to be having a run-away slew of medical advancements very soon because of AI that will probably culminate into beating aging. Though he probably doesn't give a damn because he's up there enjoying himself a lot more than he did down here.
>>738981486What's it like being too mentally retarded to use a search engine to verify this in two seconds?
>>738981720>dood we’re just gonna look at nearby stars and guesstimate some number outta our asses to impress the normalfagsLolLmao even
>>738973739Anon, in only 10 millenia we went from creating writing to now
>>738981442Yes? And what's supposed to be wrong with the image?
>>738981442The image is completely accurate, what the fuck are you seething about?
>>738960005we know those 200 light years are fucking empty right so why do we bother broadcasting
>>738981864You're not making any sense, retardbro. Or are you one of those guys who doesn't believe in anything?
>>738960005Probably. Also tv, movies, maybe other forms of entertainment we haven't thought of because we lack the same sensory organs/awareness.I'm more interested in what kind of shitposts they're making over on ET/v/.
>>738982938Anon, those are just the regular ass radio waves from AM/FM radio stations and radio telescopes and shit.
If an alien came to Earth and asked for examples of human entertainment, which 3 video games would (You) show him?
>>738983463Halo, Halo 2, Halo 3.
>>738983463Scars of Summer, Scars of Summer After, Summertime Saga
>>738983463EDF, Katamari.Probably just throw Huniepop at the poor fucker for a third and watch it cringe, or whatever it does when it's not sure what the hell's going on but it's pretty sure it's gross.
>>738983463Skyrim Legendary Edition, Skyrim Special Edition, Skyrim Anniversary Edition
>>738962350Super Gay Baby Brothers: Baby Brawl
>>738966459>ThorimemeShit fuel cycle.Shit reactor design.
>>738975549If we really cared, we could build a sunshade ie a fleet of like one trillion little satellites to take the edge of the sun being a bit hotter. So yeah the earth will cook if we do nothing, but with a bit of effort it'll be fine
>>738982938>he doesn't knowcheck your fridge, ayyys have already eaten all of your snacks
>>738982938>we know those 200 light years are fucking empty rightWe don't know shit about shit
>>738962350Tetris would be the universal game. Or something like pong. No language barrier
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>>738967045They also have Tomboy gfs that give insane alien blowjobs, their pillows are always cool and they are so smug about their cool cowboy hats. I hate them
>>738984991kek
>>738967687Smart aquatic life can develop, even sapient but to forge a civilization you can't do it on water. How the fuck do you cast metal, electricity, write books, etc. Too hard.
>>738962350Factorio
I like to imagine the universe being lonely so it made me to experience its loneliness.
>>738985189Material science undoubtedly advances according to its enviroment. Initial building materials are probably sand, coral, and flora. Where they advance that to with experimentation, who the fuck knows.I have zero doubt they'd eventually develop writing through carving, though what comes next I dunno. A race that derives a lot of its materials from flora would have no trouble eventually figuring out paper, though the method to create it underwater is a different story. Worst comes to worse, they can fall back on coral again.Electricity yeah, they're not getting that as we know it. Fluidics and geothermal are obvious go-tos though.
>>738960005I just wanna fuck some aliens, don't care what they look like, don't care what they have in the way of genitals, if any.
Do you think they could put a bunch of sperm and eggs into a ship with robots, fire it off somewhere and have them programmed to mix up the baby batter when they arrive? I guess the main issue with that would be getting sophisticated enough machines which can both maintain all the equipment on the ship, the ship itself and eachother (and childrear kids so they don't all end up psychos)
>humanity hasn't been on the moon for 60 years>still can't unite the planet's population in order to create domestic stability as a base for outward exploration>haven't been out of our solar system yet>our scientists don't even have a concept of how FTL travel could remotely be possible>...>despite all that>we put a literal gold disc with a map of our solar system and where to find us on a probe that is now god knows how far into spaceI still don't think that broadcasting our exact location into the unknown was a wise move for a non-spacefaring species.
>>738985482>tfw there's undoubtedly a species where the females keep their eggs in their mouth, and push the males right to ejaculation orally>and then instead of taking the shot, they bite off the organ for fertilization and subsistenceChance are you're gonna get some derivitive of an octopod that takes its shot in the arm and leaves, but you're really taking a chance leaving it up to RNG.
>>738985664don't care, need to nut inside an alien.
>>738960005No. God only made life on Earth.
>>738960005>Do you think Aliens somewhere in the Universe are playing their own video games right now?Yeah. Thats kinda what the greys are. What we understand as a grey alien is basically a biological drone avatar that gets "logged in to" by something else, somewhere else. Once a species becomes sufficiently advanced and has solved all its problems, scarcity and mortality being the main two, exploring this reality and cataloging novelty as you find it; becomes a primary source of meaning.Its at this point that you develop biological avatars so that you can explore this reality and beyond from the comfort of your own living room, without the obvious risks to your "real" physical self. Its analogous to how we use remote controlled deep sea drones to explore the ocean. Why risk final destruction when you don't have too? Aliens are playing the ultimate video game.
>>738977043>he thinks they're going to let him have anything of the sortItll be like how 15 years ago weed was the worst thing to happen to society and now its normalised. Once 'they' realise how easy it will be to monetize and sedate/distract everyone with VR AI waifus itll be everywhere.
>>738985635We know we can't do it so we're humbly asking for some Aliens to come and show us how. If there's anything truly dangerous out there, suppose we did get to the stars, they'd just come and kick our ass anyway.
>>738961460Real estate is very overpriced, and everything else is similarly expensive. Personally I just work from home so I got a cheap planet free floating in the Bootes Void.
>>738985702It’s "Jod" btw.
Yes
>>738985635>>still can't unite the planet's population in order to create domestic stability as a base for outward explorationNot a requirement>I still don't think that broadcasting our exact location into the unknown was a wise move for a non-spacefaring species.Earth has essentially been broadcasting all the signs that she has life for as long as life has been here, anyone with the ability to see us could tell. The dark forest hypothesis sounds spooky but it's a giant meme.
>>738985635>>738985769Last year they did publish a paper on warp-drive being possible, without the absolutely impossible energy requirements previous models had theorized would be needed.Still not something we can do tommorow though, but they're always working on the concepts.
>>738960005theres probably life out there but we will likely never meet them.closest fucking system to us is 4 light years away. unless we invent some sort of warp drive we are not meeting anyone.
>>738969641>Super mega ultra OMEGA rare: planets with life that goes beyond microscopic level (so primitive creatures like the dinosaurs or something)Dinosaurs aren't (weren't) a primitive species by any means, especially compared to amoebeous lifeforms. The amount of complexity an ecosystem has to offer in order to allow for something like larger reptiles is infinitely higher than a warm ocean with a bunch of bacteria in it.
>>738985849Good job at parroting "science". This is why you are still using 200 years old fuel technology because you have been brainwashed to think there is nothing else.
>>738985849you do not need FTL to get to alpha centauri
>>738960005it's truly insane how much of this shit is out there and how big the scale isi feel like there's no way a human mind could actually comprehend it well enough to understand it, but maybe i'm just dumbalso the chance that we're not alone in the universe is effectively 100%. it's practically endless
>>738986008Assuming we're not actually inside a black hole, at which point there are finite boundries to our universe.... somewhere, past which we can neither go nor see.
>>738985914You don't need FTL to reach the edge of the observable universe but it would take trillions of years to reach it.Even reaching Alpha Centauri traveling at the speed of light would take 4 years, from our perspective anyway.
>>738960005And then humies be like>we wuz kangs of da universe
If you guys want a film about the scale of space watch Aniara, or read the 1956 poem it's based on. >Earth is fucked from wars and pollution>People get on a regularly scheduled transport ship to take them to Mars to start a new life>The ship has to veer off course to avoid space debris, but a piece hits them anyway and they have to dump their nuclear fuel to avoid a meltdown>They are now without steering or propulsion or comms and on an escape trajectory out of the solar systemThe film stuck with me for days.
>>738986132>Assuming we're not actually inside a black hole
>>738972580>>738972859For diplomatic purposes and as a gesture of goodwill alien femoids will give anons some sort of appendagejob, maybe with a silicon glove if the appendage is harmful.Humans can probably reprociate pleasure with their hands somehow. I mean, it works with virtually every form of terrestrial life.
>>738985769Would be nice if they come vassalize us and slaughter the entire world's flesh eating elite to install some sensible rulers.
>>738972718>>reach the end of the universe>Mfw time is a byproduct of thermodynamics (work) and gravity>Get trapped in a timeless, massless void of absolute cold for eternity>Can't even rot
>>738986206Yeah, older sci-fi is absolutely packed to the ass with scenarios like that. The short story Painwise always stuck with me personally.>motherfucker starts dismembering himself in front of aliens in a form of protest against the AI he's leashed to>eventually comes across a planet of oompa-loombas who just suck, fuck, goon, and sip mountain dew all dayIt's as close as you can get to a modern /v/ meets /sci/ collab.
>>738986206NTA but there is also a book by Poul Anderson called Tau Zero which is about a ship that travels at near light speed, the ship hits a dust cloud and the ships deceleration system breaks and they continue to accelerate beyond the speed of light without being able to slow down.
>>738986008We comprehend things like that through abstraction. Our visual grasp is naturally limited however. Were you ever taught counting using little cubes? You know, the ones where you also had a long solid piece made of 10 cubes, and then a square (10x10) of 100 cubes, and then a larger cube (10x10x10) of 1000? Just try individually picturing the small ones and see just how limited we are. 10 is easy. You can feel them in your mind. 100 is a little difficult to put into focus all at once. Yeah, you can abstract them as the 10 by 10 square but actually "holding" each and every single small cube at once in your mind is a bit tough no? By 1000 it gets extremely difficult, though Im sure possible with training. Now imagine 10x10x10 of the large cubes (1000). That's a scant million, but now even thinking about each individual big cube is difficult and each small cube impossible. We haven't even reached the point where scientific notation is necessary and in terms of raw spatial comprehension we're stumped. However we can somewhat comprehend this and more through abstraction. You can relate the million as being 10 100000s or 1000 1000s or whatever, which allows you play around with the idea of even larger quantities/distances at least in the abstract. Math is truly a wonderful shorthand that allows us to bypass the limitations of our spatial comprehension.
>>738986391I think I might have read painwise, I've certainly heard of it before.I love the metaphor that gets used in Aniara.>In any glass>that stands untouched for a sufficient time,>gradually a bubble in the glass will move>infinitely slowly to a different point>in the glazen form, and in a thousand years>the bubble makes a voyage in its glass.>Similarly, in a boundless space>a gulf the depth of light years throws its arch>round bubble Aniara on her march. the point in the poem where like, 20 YEARS into the (3 week) voyage or so it's revealed to the remaining survivors that the Aniara has travelled 16 light HOURS away from the Sun fucked me up. The movie does a good job of it too >>738986526I've heard of that, got to add it to my list
>>738986161>Even reaching Alpha Centauri traveling at the speed of light would take 4 years,yeah and that's completely feasible, not sure why you're talking like it's noteven 90% of the speed of light makes that trip just over 4 years.
>>738982938Maybe others have faster and better systems for receiving messages, that can detect signals before they reach to them. Like how you would send a plane to a specific location with a message and others can already detect this plane using radar system, before it can reach its destination.
Another interesting book series about the vastness of space and space travel is the Nanotech Succession series by Linda Nagata. The series starts off about the succession of Nanotech and extending human life but by the third book (Vast) the series starts to explore traveling through the universe and the vastness of it.
>>738986806>not sure why you're talking like it's notBecause we can't travel at the speed of light or anywhere near it.But for traveling beyond our own galaxy at the speed of light is still slow. Traveling at the speed of light to Andromeda would still take 2.5 million years.
>>738986806I don't think we have the ability to get to .9c anonEven with something like Orion you'd struggle to go neatly a fraction of that, plus you would have problems with literally any particles in the way obliterating your shipSo let's say 0.1c, that's still very generous. To get to AC it's now a 40 year voyage, which basically guarantees that nobody will return. You need to have or make kids on board, kids who will likely never see Earth again or go anywhere besides the inside of the space ship. Plus this assumes that literally nothing goes wrong with any part of the ship.I don't think you could find people capable of dealing with that.
>>738979306grow up *tips fedora*
>>738987020>But for traveling beyond our own galaxy at the speed of light is still slow. Traveling at the speed of light to Andromeda would still take 2.5 million years.We have an entire galaxy to deal with before worrying about getting to andromeda
>>738987139A civilization that is willing to attempt the colonization of other stars is most likely a civilization that has already figured out how to build permanent space habitats and/or colonies on other bodies in the solar system. Concerns about never seeing Earth again will apply to all space endeavours. The same thing applied to colonists never seeing England or Spain again in their life.
some alien tony hawk game i'm sure of it
Can someone tell me the short story about the heat death of the universe? I think an anon posted it once on here. I remember reading it, and it scared me so badly I couldn't sleep that night. I remember it starts out pretty normal like there is a woman and I think her daughter? And you don't really know what the fuck is going on until the last like 2-3 paragraphs where they walk outside and wait for death and talk about what they're seeing and feeling
>>738980230>little gI'm sure the aliens won't self immolate the moment I pray the pray the Lords prayer in front of them.
>>738988234They won't, they will be Christian as well.
>>738988261>they will be Christian as well.Worst timeline
>>738988639You couldn't define what good or bad even are....
>born just in time for when telescopes are getting better and smart telescopes are now a thing>also same time when Elon is ruining the night sky along with LED lights literally doubling the light pollution on earthFuck this gay earth
>>738988657Plenty of civilizations pre Yahweh did. You don't need a god to point out that if you kill Grug, his brother Brog will smash your head in with a rock, and then your brother Durg will smash his head in and so on until your tribe is a big pile of corpses. Treg, who has a triple digit IQ and the ability to conceptualize a morning in which he did not have breakfast, realized that he should introduce laws in order to prevent this lunacy. Which worked until the tribe got beyond 1000 people, around half of who statistically couldn't infer what it would be like to skip breakfast and didn't care about the law, so Treg's descendant Murg decided to tell everyone that if they don't follow the law, the big shiny orb in the sky will smite them, and that pacified the dumber half. Religion isn't necessary for morality, it's just a tard wrangling tool.
>>738988995So morality is you being afraid of being killed with a rock? Bravo, Harris. Now go ahead and separate IS from OUGHT for me, bud
>>738988995Yeah you kinda need to live next to people if you want to build civilisation and you can't really live next to people without having high trust and instead being afraid your neighbour will just come in the night to rob and rape you for shits and giggles. Christfag LARPers genuinely believe civilisations did not exist before some kikes decided to publish some Marvel-tier fantasy slop for them.
>>738989049>>738989049>So morality is you being afraid of being killed with a rock?No. Morality is being the one with the rock. Umagine dictating what morality is when you don't have a rock.
>>738989207>no bro, it's all subjective to whoever has the biggest rockYou don't live like that and you don't even believe that.
>>738962350Destroy all humans 2
>>738989286Ever tried being a woman and calming down a drunk man?
>>738989367Sounds like something you're very familiar with, anon, but your day to day life is not rock threatened and you make moral decisions that do not consider the rock constantly. You decide what is a valuable way to spend your time, or how to talk to people absent the rock constantly.You can use the rock as an excuse for not committing high crime, but you cannot use it to justify or explain most of the decisions that compose your life. Unless you want to tell me that youve never stolen anything ever out of fear of a man with a big rock
>>738970863>Fucking everywhere in the universe is instant death>just not here bro
is evolution a thing for aliens?
>>738989286>you don't even believe that0 comprehension of the state of geopolitics coming from you
>>738989656Its mostly true. Humans/life in general is so delicate that the sweet spot required for it to exist and continue to exist without dying to some random 200°F day is highly rare.
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>>738989728>geopoliticsSo you're one of those "every decision I make is political" guys then? When you help a stranger, do you do so out of fear of Chinese thermonuclear missiles? When you choose to tip your waiter or not, is that contingent on the status of the RussoUkraine war? I know you think you're making some astute points here, but you're not
>>738989049You missed the point anon. At its lowest, yes, it's the rock. Violence is the root of all law, that's why the government wields state sanctioned violence to enforce it. However, higher morality is born from the fact that the rock is impractical and stupid as being the sole pillar for civilization. Morality is born from pragmatism, enforced by violence, and made understandable to the retarded by religion.
>>738989806>I tip the waiter because (((God))) told me toYeah, seems about right for a kike religion
>>738989931Again you're making assertions but can't demonstrate how any of that affects any of your high priority morality. Youre telling a great story but not making any actual arguments
Thoughts on Joe Rogan and his guests like Bob Lasagna?
>>738990070>JoeCompromised>Bob lasagnaNever heard of him
>>738990114Bob Lazer
>>738990151I never know what to make of alien guys. On one end of the spectrum is just dumb kooks, on the other end it's government employees who can never be trusted.
>>738990063Well what kind of proof are you looking for? I'm not going to dig up peer reviewed sources because >(((experts)))aren't going to satisfy either of us anyway. If I had to explain it a different way, more than trumpeting my assertion I'm trying to show you that your assertion (god, particularly the Christian God, is necessary for morality) requires proof, as other assertions are available .At the very least I will back up my claim that strictly the Christian God isn't not necessary because civilizations that did not worship him and even preceded his existence (e.g. Sumeria) had morality and a code of law. Now if you're saying that morality requires any sort of god, that's a different story.
>>738969460Human civilisation has existed for all of 5,000 years. Aliens 5,000 years away would only just now be observing the emergence of Mesopotamia, Sumeria, etc. Even longer ago and there were just dumb apes. Would humans broadcast radio signals at ants waiting for them to evolve into intelligent beings that can fly planes and listen to radios?
>>738971932It obviously just procedurally generates the structure of most star systems and whatever stars aren't catalogued. And what we can't see (other side of the galaxy) is an approximation of how it most likely is, based on observations of other galaxies.
>>738990321>but God isnt real....And? You still can't define good and bad
>>738960005>Aliens have /v/>Aliens are jerking off to humans>Aliens aren't playing video gamesI believe it.
>>738977320We didn't. Spqce is fake and gay and this thread are all larpers.
>>738990560Oh ok, I should probably address that statement specifically. My answer is yes I can, because of pragmatism. Before any complexity needs to be added for a larger scale, what contributes to the survival of me and mine is good. Simple as. It's baked into nature itself.
>>738961460It's just a Blockbusters that only stocks movies and video games from 1996 but nobody rewinds the tapes and all the game discs are scratched up.
>>738990678Good grief, although pomp just to say "good is thing I like, bad is thing I don't" imagine.....
You guys just wanna meet xenos so you can engage in depraved, interspecies mating rituals with them.
>>738962350MEET N FUCK KINGDOM STEVE
I do think FTL exists but humans don't have complete Unified Field Theory to explore new sciences and have deeper understandings of the universe. There may be kind of alternative space that allows FTL that humans can't detect due its bizarre physics. That's what I believe anyways...
>>738990758I want to commit warcrimes on them!!
>>738990758her space is big
>>738966669It doesn't matter how 'unfathomably small' it is, because it still is, it's still a chance, and you're talking about a universe that's so big we can't even quantify how big it is, ergo, it's happening somewhere else, the question is if there's millions or billions or trillions of life forms out there
>>738966805Saddest thing I've read all week desu
>>738960005aliens are fairy tales for atheists, just like fairies and angels are for religiouseven if they exist humanity will never interact with them
>>738967654it's fucking retarded how I don't feel particularly scared of anything in the world, snakes, spiders, other insects, the sea, I don't give a fuck, but space and especially the very idea of blackholes completely fill me with dread, just reading this part>The central star, over 10 times more massive than the Sun, makes a complete orbit over the 20-year-period, and is accelerated to over 2% the speed of light (>10,000,000mph) at its closest approach, passing about 4 times further from the black hole than Neptune's distance from the Sunand trying to picture its implications gave me actual goosebumpsfucking space
>>738990969Not the frogshitter but I believe theres billions of planets with life on them. They could be something as simple as some kind of early chordate or invertebraes. Its intelligent life that could be rarer to find due to the proper conditions allowing it to occur.
>>738990729Perhaps you should explain why can God define good and evil and I can't.
>somewhere in the universe Glip is calling Glerp a nigger over Call of Blutty
>>738991130But that's only considering our own galaxy, we don't really know how many galaxies even exist due to the visible universe principle, they might just be so far they haven't had time to reach us yet, which is very probable I mean, why would there be a limit anyways
>>738988156D-Do you think I could find a copy of it here on earth? Maybe pirate it or torrent it..?
>>738991068It's the difference between the horrors you know and the horrors of the unknown.
>>738991181The creator of all life, matter, and energy would by definition have the ultimate say so without bumping into the authorities of equal or greater beings. All things would be grounded within the mind of God and therefore in their creation require the purpose being of whatever God imbued as that things purpose. In the same way logic isn't just whatever pragmatically works for you, morality couldn't be just whatever pragmatically works for you.
>>738967045They're thinking the same about youThey never got to play Turok
>>738991385Unlimited authority doesn't mean unlimited power to make definitions.Even God can't make 2 plus 2 equal 5
The totality of other life in the universe is a coin flip between humans but grey or cataclysmic sized space creatures with many many ocular organs that when viewing humans, rapidly and permanently reshapes them into literal nightmares. Frankly I don't think I want to test those odds.
>>738991489>even God could make 2+2=5It would go against His nature as evidenced in the laws of logic.
>>738991435We need to send out more pioneer probes, but instead of some gay plaques we should attach copies of good vidya for the ayys to play.
>>738991489What if God personally decreed that the word five meant the value of four?
>>738991489That's a nonsequiter and a category error. If God made all things, He has the authority to define its purpose.
>>738991501that's mostly fantasy, if you use logic, you quickly realize that they're most likely going to be humanoid by default because that's the structure a brain needs (walking on two legs allow for the spine to grow strong enough for the brain to develop), and then opposable thumbs (tho I guess they could potentially have more than two arms but from an evolutionary perspective this is probably overkill, two is enough)they could potentially have a tail, I guess? height would be dependent on their planet's gravity, though considering we'd get in contact with them most likely implies they would find us and they would travel to us, so they'd be far more advanced than we are, meaning they'd probably have access to genetic modifications or bioengineering too, so who knows how that would affect their base form anyways, space whales are retarded
>>738991385So it's a matter of power then? Might makes right? The biggest rock?
>>738971504We are going to half our population because we don't fuck enough dawg.We rode the S curve now we plateau from here
>>738991705>The Elcor could never exist by this anon's frameworkSad.. I really liked those guys.
>>738991717No, although He also would be the most powerful, it's because He created it all with all the of the contingent laws and properties for it to exist, that's why I don't use the watchmaker analogy, because a watchmaker makes just a watch, he doesnt make the quartz and the time itself that the watch is measuring.
>>738991672He didn't. I checked.
>>738991893I just asked God if anyone came around to his house in the last few hours and he didn't know you.
>>738991930>lowercase h
>>738991961He knows me, we're cool like that.
Is there anything that would prevent a creature like this existing on another planet?
>>738991930>he didn't know youIsn't that literally impossible?
>>738992020Depends on how we're using "knew"
>>738992014Gravity mostly. Biology typically reserves evolution for mainline advantages too so multiple ocular organs like that would prove to be a detriment if it isn't an apex apex predator. I guess it's plausible but I doubt it would be to that scale since Physics would rip it apart if it tried to move very fast.
>>738990758If the theory of the universe being so vast alien life is pretty much guaranteed to 3xist on the basis of near infinite possibilities, then surely going by the same principle, a cute xeno gf who loves me for who I am is also bound to exist somewhere out there.
>>738992020>t. ignorant sinner
>>738961460All you'd see is a bunch of stuff orbiting me.
>>738992162She died getting clobbered by a space rock :/
>>738992162She's getting gleebled by Chad Glorpus right now, anon. You literally can't somble at the same level as him.
>>738992217Nothing a bit of ozempic can't solve.
>>738962350Body Harvest
>>738992217Fat ass.
>>738962350I concur with the Factorio guy. We have to give them at least some facet of a warning before we land on their shit hole rock and start mining up iron.
Can we bring God to the table? What was God's big idea to create such infinite universe if we can't get past our moon? And according to His word, the 'end is near'. Like wtf, is He a prick?
>>738992465He's just a server admin and saying anything bad about Him gets you blacklisted.
>>738967654a star 10 times the size of the sun comes at you with 2% the speed of lightwhat would you do?I would say>OoooOOOooooooooOoooh
>>738992465Read the book. Hes making a new earth and infinite time to explore the universe, in unlimited peace
>>738988228Heat death of the universe is all of the stars dying out and there being no light or heat in the universe.
>>738992567"You're under arrest, that's totally over the spee limit"
>>738992465dude’s akshully a p. chill guy, he said there was some huge misunderstanding on humans part the last time he went to Earth so he doesnt visit anymore to not confuse dumb ‘umies any further
>>738992134Wait, can the physics of Earth can be applied to other planets too? I thought there were multiple planets in this universe that wouldn't make sense.
>>738989710Evolution is a thing for all forms of life
>>738992669Less gravity means less density means less form, there's a very fine sweet spot
>>738992669If the Laws of physics only applies to one specific locale, surely that means it's actually just a guideline only?
>>738992758That sucks. Makes me wonder if abducted humans by UFOs were used in some weird scenarios like in All Tomorrows.
>>738962350Monster Girl Quest
>>738992931Bro that's what they do to humans in Juarez
>>738962350The Maiden Rape Assault - Violent Semen InfernoThey need some earthly culture.
>>738971752>>738967285If Spore taught me anything, it's that the world has to be conquered by one nation before it can reach the Space stage (in earnest).
>>738992669As far as we know the laws of physics are universal and apply across the entire universe as proven by general relativity. There could be unknown particles and elements or even forces in other parts of the universe that we don't know of that could alter the laws of physics as we know them but as far as we know the laws of physics apply to the entire universe.There is also dark energy and dark matter that we still don't know much about or even observe which could have some impact on the laws of physics on the grander scale of the universe as a whole.
>>738962350Concord
