is it too late to get into this game? it looks like a good "retirement home" for wow\ffxiv cunts like me who want to play something for the story and chill by themselves rather than have fucking apes screech on discord that we're not raid ready yet.
The story is garbage, like, even moreso than WoW or FFXIV, so there's that.If you want a retirement MMO it's OSRS and it's not even close
Ehh a lot of weirdo faggots play gw2 you will have to contend with those playersBut it's at least free
I just picked it back up. I've been going through the story zones in order as a completionist and I'm having a blast. Taking the slow scenic route really changed how I approached the game compared to the first time around years ago. It's way more satisfying to not just skip to the popular current content.
>>738961130>Ehh a lot of weirdo faggots play gw2 you will have to contend with those playersYou don't really have to if you just want to dick around in the open world. I'd suggest turning map chat on while you're doing map meta so you can hear what commanders are saying but otherwise it's whatever.
>>738960867The story is dogshit but you need to do a bunch of shit in every expansion to technically nothing is out of date. I never had problems finding people for world quests. Every like two years I get back into it and go h0rd on it for a few months. All the maps are still full of people.
>>738961130>a lot of weirdo faggots play gw2...elaborate?
>>738960867Its been my mmo retirement home for a few years now. I actually ran out of content but sometimes go back to world bosses and events.If you get the base set on sale, never pay full price for an expansion, and can live with never touching the raid or dungeon systems (you will literally never find enough players to do them and its impossible solo if you arent a spastic), youll get some fun out of it as a "two hours on the weekend" kinda deal.And protip, literally never listen to metafaggots, basically none of the meta builds are actually fun, and theres some cool shit you can do when you actually play around with the less popular options.
>>738961697there are so many fucking trannies in it.
>>738962209This is the case for literally every MMO at this point.
>>738962295Yes but only gw2 and wow actually enable or outright encourage it.Theres a difference between finding a troon on some kmmo and watching the wave of mental illness wash over the gameworld during pride month.
>>738962428Having played both FFXIV for the last several years, and WoW back in Dragonflight I can assure you that they are much much worse. But I tend to play on RP servers, so perhaps there is a bias there.
>>738962157>And protip, literally never listen to metafaggots, basically none of the meta builds are actually fun, and theres some cool shit you can do when you actually play around with the less popular options.Seconding this. That said you should at least look up the meta builds to get an idea of what works before you start doing your own thing. If you go into the game without looking anything up you're gonna do no dps at all, I've been there.
>>738961697Nta but lot of the players just feel off in a weird way, they are friendly enough but there’s something not right about them
>>738962927Yeah thats a good point.
>>738960867Play GW1 instead.
>>738960867Not at all. It holds up great, even now.But then again I Solo my mmos.But it has tons of player.I like it better than wow.
>>738960867It has a horrendous community, even for an MMO. The writing is unbearable and so awful that even some fans try to avoid the story content. Very good map design however, and it's fun figuring out all the little secrets and such.
>>738964925Yeah Guild Wars 2's map design is overall very good. A few stinkers, but a lot of genuinely great ones. Very fun game to take slow and casually. Playing it for the story or for raids will be a bad time.
>>738961697What do you think? They're Patient Zero for all the things that went wrong with the game industry.
>>738964925>It has a horrendous community,Ganna love how their "community" kept gaslighting everyone to say they are the most "friendliest" and open armed community around. Then they start turning on each other when one slightest thing goes wrong in a Fractal or an world event. God forbid you want to do some Raid or high end stuff in general but told to fuck off, despite those contents are easy by mmo standards. They invade other reddit and forums and spam their shitty game while downvoting anyone that tries to criticize their game.
>>738960867>cunts like me who want to play something for the storyi hope you like the power of friendship and girl power
>>738967069>power of friendshipMore like credit stealing
>>738966323Pretty sure most of these people no longer work at Anet
>>738966105What about pvp?
>>738962157>Raid or dungeon systems (you will literally never find enough players to do them)You can find players for dungeons and other non-raid group content just fine through the LFG tool, though?
>>738967251Doesn't matter. Their effect lingers to this day.
>>738967260Structured PvP is fine, WvWvW is just zergtrains running across the maps.Class balance is surprisingly good, though there are some outliers.
>>738960867>for the storylol no>chill by themselvessure, you can do lots of things solo with the right build/gear and then just run with randos for world events and even some LFG content that isn't raiding
>>738960867This is the normie dad mmo game since the primary content is open world bosses and events where you beat content by sheer number of players. There is other content too when you want a break from the massive zerg stuff as well. There is a chance of guild wars 3 being announced officially in the next couple years so bear that in mind, although not saying the game will stop being supported its more likely it will receive small content and maintenance type updates.
>>738967530Normie Dad mmo is old school runescape. This is what your gay faggot uncle would play.
>>738960867I started playing it recently but desu I like the gameplay of gw1 more so I've been playing that way more. Engineer is fun though and there's nothing like that in 1 so I'm eventually going to go back to 2 and have fun with that. ALSO FUCK THE FLYING SHIP JUMP PUZZLE OH MY GOD
>love femsura>absolutely hate they're stuck in this shit ass gamepain
>>738967530>This is the normie dad mmo gameNo normie plays GW2 these days. It's all weirdos, fags, trannies, etc. who enjoy that it's a horizontal MMO where progression doesn't even matter and you can just use the game as a 3D chat for ERP and for dressing up.
>>738961697GW2 is filled with some of the most passive aggressive people I've ever seen. Everyone acts like they're on reddit and afraid of getting downvoted or something. Overtly people act friendly and welcoming but theres always this strange air of pettiness and catty behavior. Like they're always looking down at people but they're too much of a bitch to actually say anything in case they upset someone. Reddit gets thrown around as a derogatory term here a lot and is overused, but gw2 really feels like reddit: the game. The good thing is that you don't have to interact with the players and its pretty easy to avoid or ignore people if you're into the dogshit story or enjoy exploring the world.
>>738967885>as a 3D chat for ERP and for dressing up.FF14 and PSO2 does this shit better.
>cool setting>atrocious storyfuuuuuuuck
>>738967898iirc they got rid of their official forums to just rely on their reddit
>>738967639If you mean young dad then sure its full of millennial dads. Go tell all those gay faggot uncles you know that runescape has all the gay faggot femboys they are looking for because thats the new demographic.
I stopped playing in 2014 only to comeback recently to play it again. I guess it was nice knowing the gear I got 12 years ago was still the same end-game gear used now. Honestly, the could've had a good game if they focused more on dungeon content. There is also a ton of easy ways to get end-game gear now and craft legendaries which basically is the end-game for this game. The world feels alive, because of the people wandering around, but it also feels dead as no one talks. Honestly, it's an okay time-sink if you want an MMO fix without having to pay a sub fee.
>>738960867Its ugly wokeslop, I stopped after the Icebrood Saga and never looked back.
>>738960867somehow the graphics aged worse than wow despite going for a really lovely (at the time) painterly style, and the story is actual vomit.the appeal of this game is mostly being an absolute hugbox maze of unfailable mass zerg content then you liquidate all loot to gold, turn all gold to gems, spend all gems on cosmetics, so you can sit in town and talk to gay redditors, between bouts of doing the aforementioned zerg content.there was some pvp weirdos but i assume they are entirely extinct at this point
>>738969246i like the graphics desu but yeah the story is legit dogwater that i pretend is tolerable.
>>738960867if you want something that's completely free try lotro instead.
>>738960867GW1 Pre-searing is the retirement home for MMOs. Just chill in Ascalon and death level with buddies.
>>738969665>Just chill in Ascalon and death level with buddies.They added tons of shit to the game now. Presearing has a new settlement and you cuck Rurik of his GF.
>>738960867it's pretty good to be honest, the woke shit isnt as bad as you'd think, heart of thorns has the best region/maps in any MMO. The story has an assload of content, and it's grindy enough that you can basically play forever if you want to. The pvp is pretty good too, quite different from WoW, but pretty solid. The graphics havent aged too gracefully but it's a decent game overall, definitely better gameplay wise than FFXIV, and different than WoW combat, it's more action-ish with the dodge rolling and movement skills and whatnot. Most fun warrior class i've ever played in an mmo by far, there are so many cool build to try on every class...and not enough time to try them all..
>>738969957it always makes me laugh that althea was like yeah i didn't feel any pain when the charr sacrificed me because iwas thinking about how much i love rurik, bitch please you fucking screamed and they probably dismembered you and tossed you in a bonfire
>better gameplay than ff14
>>738968052Yeah it's a huge bummer. The worldbuilding and lore is cool but the actual storytelling, dialogue, etc is complete ass. And especially the pacing lately, just astonishingly bad with the expansion/update release cadence they have now.
>>738970060Double irony is that you bring her to Undead Rurik at Hell's Precipice.
>>738969957Not sure what fucking rock I've been under, but I didn't even realize they remade it.
>>738970168ffxiv gameplay is trash.
>>738970339They basically hired contractors that use to work on Guild Wars 1 full time to work on GW1 again. They already made it work on the controllor and the Steam Deck. They are planning to release the game on Mobile this summer, with Prophecies as F2P and already testing it in the SEA region. Those that own GW1 can play all the content for free on the mobile.
I was thinking about how familiar the white mantle artwork is and then I remembered it was used for the thumbnail of this video>15 yrs agofuckhttps://youtu.be/ASj81daun5Q
>>738970339>>738970516There was also two skill balances. Unfortunately, Izzy is back:https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Feedback:Game_updates/20260205https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Feedback:Game_updates/20260428You can also get Devona as a Hero again.
>>738970708Holy shit I remember when 'Epic Music' was a thing time sure does fly.
>>738960867No, but it depends entirely why you want to play it. Story ranges from very safe fantasy early on to some very ass writing in later expansions/Living Story episodes. I have no idea what the latest developments are.
>even to this day, the Charr are the only beastman race in all MMOs where it's been confirmed by devs that their females have multiple nipples GW2 is eternally based just for that alone.
>>738970516>>738970717>mfw new GW1 content out of fucking nowhereIs Reforged any good?
>>738968407I mean, they replaced them with fractals at the end, but I don't think any other MMORPG really just dropped dungeons the way Guild Wars 2 did. So bizarre. They even had Story mode if you just wanted to run them once and be done.
>>738972749Reforge Mode is just made to make it easier for new players to play Prophecies. Its require if you want to get into Presearing Piken Square and grab both Devona and Althea as hero, but its probably not a good idea to turn it on on your main character, yet. There is also:Dhuum's Covenanthttps://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Dhuum%27s_CovenantSurvivor title on steroid. You carry this badge until you died. Then you lose it and Dhuum reap your soul.>Melandru's Accordhttps://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Melandru%27s_AccordIts Ironman mode like you seen in OSRS. Oh and Wells can be use on Demand but at a cost of 66% of your HP.
>>738960867>Guild Wars 2
>>738972953Do you still need another player to get the Resurrection signet? For some reason that was major cause of anxiety for new players.
>>738960867It's probably the best off MMORPG. Something you play between other games that's not gated or grind-dependant unless you want it to be.
>>738972997you can buy it later on i'm pretty sure but yeah i remember being scared to ask, and then later on i ended up sticking around in presearing and it's fun when ppl need help with it
>>738972997Only in Reforge mode>This quest can be completed without a partner by adding the hero Devona to your party.https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Adventure_with_an_AllyReforge Mode info by the way. https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Reforged_Mode>>738973046>It's probably the best off MMORPGFuck off you dick sucking shill.
i'm playing gw1 right now.
>>738960867The only part of this game that is unmatched by any other MMO is the roller beetle mount. The game excels as a racing game MMO hybrid where you join the dedicated roller beetle racing guild and race around the world. It sucks in all other aspects.
>>738972874Fractals are nice but I don't like agony feels like an extra step for no reason. I don't remember correctly but I don't know if you could grind fractal to increase your agony or not. Also trying to find people to run fractal with especially if you're starting off was a hassle.
>>738972725And they refused to show them in underwear UNLESS they could show it off properly.
>>738973083so reforged is basically easy mode?
>>738960867>for the storyIts woke as fuck, written by feminists
>>738977640More of less, yes, or as the dev intended, make Prophecies not ass for new players. So they get one of the most powerful heroes early on, get an EXP boost, have Devona, etc.
>>738960867I haven't played in a decade so I don't know for sure. The world events were good fun. Population probably too small and burnt out on them to do them much any more.
You can at least play through End of Dragons if you purchase the bundle that goes on sale for $50 that has the first 3 expansions and all the living worlds. Tons of content for $50... the 3 mini-expansions are okay but not that great. If you don't buy that bundle they fuck you on the living world prices with gems
Honestly, you'd be better off playing GW1. It even got "Remastered"GW2 was shit and nuanet is shit and you'd be surrounded by trannies with the most obnoxious MTX cosmetic effects they can buy
>>738978141I'm glad game is getting more expansions since that's what they should've done from day 1, but I hate the way they're selling Living World episodes separately. At least include them with relevant expansions.
I started a month or two ago. I put in 150 hours before getting bored, which I guess isn't all that much for MMOs. The "real" game apparently starts when you hit level 80, but I prefer leveling. The idea of elite specs is cool until you realize you can't activate them until you hit max level and then you have to farm the hero points. The game doesn't have respec for some fucking insane reason so if you pick a shitty espec and max it, you get the fun task of farming an additional 250 points, which I assume takes longer because you've done the easy shit already. I didn't unlock one, but it looks like getting a flying mount is either a part time job or you'll need to spend a fair amount of real life money. I did end up buying the POF/HOT combo expansion pack which gives you the raptor mount immediately, which was a godsend. For fag and tranny content, I think I saw a single person with an LGTV guild or whatever, but I also didn't hang out in cities much and only stayed in old worlds. XIV, on the other hand, I was inundated with that shit.
Despite the grind for some of them, I think GW2 has the best Mount system in any MMO when they got added in Path of Fire.
>>738977993I only recently started playing and there are always large groups doing the zone events. I assume that's largely due to level scaling, but I appreciated that i could hop in and help fighting the tripe worms or whatever at level 50ish when everyone else was 80 in real gear.
>>738978273what tanked the game was that five year gape between pof and eotd expacs. there were two "seasons" of living world released in that period, but imagine if your mmorpg only got glorified content patches for five years. that was when the game effectively went to sleep and it's amazing it even made a comeback.
I really wish they could introduce a new mode to GW1, that severely limits hero usage. I miss having to team up with guildies or randoms, but I also doubt whether there would be enough players willing to run the content the old way again.
Total Charr death. They all belong in the fucking pit.
>>738978672>new expansions>five $5 cheaper>half-assed releases, have to wait a year until they release it allat least they're releasing back-to-back on yearly basis
gw2 is a baby game
>>738978650That's the best thing about the game, there's nearly always people doing the big events all over the world map. One of the reasons I'm a big fan of the economy in this game, you can make decent gold doing alot of the older content and world bosses. If anything most of the newer content is way too focused around gold/resource sinks
>>738960867No, leveling and exploring is actually very fun in the early zones. The later content though is pretty awful
>>738960867It's mostly too expensive to get into now. I have the base game, no expansions. If I wanted to get back into it and get all the content I missed, I'd need to buy a whole bunch of fucking expansions. And the worst thing: You can't even buy a "Everything you need" package. you can buy the first 3 for $50, instead of $30 for 1&2 bundle and §30 again for 3, so you save 10 bucks, But either way you still need to buy 4, 5 and 6 for $25 each, so buying all expansions will run you at least $125.
>>738979719the sales have been decreasing too lol
>>738979719Just wait for regular discounts. I like the fact it's $25 a year for a new expansion.
>>738979549I just finished prophecies and it was pretty chill for the most part. I really only had trouble with the fucking imps in the last level jesus christ.
>>738979823No kidding. I wanted to get into GW 2 last year and discovered the expansion costs. Anons at the time told me there's occasional sales, but since I'm not actively playing I completely missed any that were happening. But fuck, with 6 expansions it is CRAZY that they're not doing a "full game" bundle somewhere instead of this pick & mix bullshit. There's a reason WoW eventually said: "Fuck it, we have too many expansions, if you buy the latest one, you get all the previous ones free of charge". The least they could do is bundle everything together and say: "okay, 50 bucks for all of it, no questions asked". >>738980001It's a great deal if you are actively playing, no question. But any returning or new player being greeted by a $125 paywall right at the start is a total kick in the dick.
>>738979549That image is so goddamn old.
>>738979719>I have the base game, no expansions.What you have is the F2P version. That's the hook. That you'll like the game enough to overpay for the rest.
>>738979549i fucking hate how every mmo has decided levelling and story contemnt has to be braindead easy, its actually impossible to fail the story missions in gw2 - even if you die (which almost never happens anyway) to a boss you respawn and the boss still has the same HP.
>>738980540You're right. It suppose to spike much higher because Spark of the Titans are fucking faggots to deal with, even with a Winter Ranger and 3 Mesmer Heroes.
>>738960867i put thousands of hours into wvw pvp and barely touched the pvei dunno if i'd recommend the game based on that cause you'll be buying expansions literally just to get access to a weapon or spec
>>738960867Combat is boring and so is story. Now it has a lot of things it does well too but combat being boring is a deal breaker for me.
>>738980686Once you get mesmer heroes for that mission it's easy as fuck
>>738980668GW2 was more challenging. In that people were dying in starter zones. Then ANet nerfed the game, and nerfed it AGAIN for the Chinese release. Problem with GW2 is a lot of the basic shit you don't even have to use until you get into Dungeons/Fractals. Combo fields, for example, might not even matter in regular world play.
>>738980786Even with flagging heroes apart, if your mesmers doesn't immediately mind rape the Sparks, the Sparks will Mind Burn them in seconds, nevermind some of the delay of your other heroes as they all ignore your command and attack the other titans.
>>738960867pretty shitty to choose this one if you want a multiplayer experience (id imagine yes if youre looking at MMOs) since its the most antisocial online game ever. there is very very little reason to communicate with other players in any way. you can play for hours and never interact with a single other player, theyre just there next to you.
Post Asuras, faggots.
>>738980924I already did, faggot
>>738980913You're confusing "typing" with interacting, anon. I've never interacted MORE with other players than in GW2. It just happens organically as people join in events, revive others, etc.
>>738980924I don't have one sorry.
>>738980971the issue is whether or not that person was in that event doesnt affect my experience in the least. now that you can also just queue up for fractals and raids, you can go in and out beating that content without even telling other players what build youre running; the game is so simplified by this point that the other players may as well just be npcs. pushing F to rub someone back to life just isnt enough for me.
>>738981053*rubs your back*
>>738981053>pushing F to rub someone back to life just isnt enough for me.
>>738980861I was there at launch, and some shit was downright unreasonable. I remember the char area where you would just get buttfucked by certain elites if you were solo. At least in that regards nerfs were for sure needed. Specially once you couldn't rely on having 20 people show up doing the same thing any more. As for: >>738980668It is what it is. It's hard to make leveling challenging, because leveling is incredibly fucking hard to balance. Your power level fluctuates constantly. You can have huge differences in power based on your selected skills alone. Not to mention your gear status. So if you try to make leveling challenging you can VERY easily make leveling impossible for a huge number of casual players. It's just easier to say: "okay fuck it, we'll make leveling content whatever, and then we focus the actual challenge into the endgame".
>>738960867Yeah it's good. I'm a wow and FFXIV vet (old man MMO in general vet). It's fun for what you're describing, being able to play solo but still be in a social environment where you can join in stuff. For things like instanced dungeons not so much, you still need a group. WvW pvp was fun back in the day, no idea about now. I loved roaming WvW lands solo or with friends running into 1v1 fights as a Mesmer. I think FFXIV's story is better, gw2 second. Crafting is easy, just follow a guide online to get through it in a couple of hours if you have the gold to buy mats. The Jumping puzzles are some of the best. The Halloween event one is iconic. That's another thing, the calendar events are way better than FFXIV's, maybe better than wow as well. There's a bunch of build variety (ignore metas and just have fun with it). Yes give the game a shot.
I come back to it every once in a while just to play a couple of rounds of WvW and make some progress on equips
>>738981148At the very least, they could have included a hard mode toggle for missions like GW1, maybe with an extra cosmetic reward or something.
I should try ranger in gw2...
>>738980861fire blast, water blast, smoke blast, smoke leap. only things that matter in the whole game.
>>738981342Greatest thing about GW2 is how strangely liberating it is to play it compared to basically every other contemporary. Also, only requirement to explore post-vanilla content is to get to lvl 80. Nothing else. You can ignore all the story if you hate it., but still easily level because of flat curve and the fact everything nets you some experience.
Damn now I wanna roll a new character. Not Mesmer, not necro. Is elem really so hard to Master? I was thinking tempest. Or a thief, never played one
>>738981398To be honest most hard mode optionals were not that hard in GW1 either. Speaking of GW1 tho: I WISH more games did the hero system of GW1, allowing you to gear and skill-build your own NPC companions so you can solo a dead game. That's so fucking goated and based beyond belief.
>>738981536Isn't xiv trying this with the trust system? I swear yoshi takes so many pages out of gw2's book. I'm convinced the evolved combat for evercold is directly inspired by gw2 rotations.
>>738981536Ffxi did something similar, its probably the best way to address a declining playerbase, as it still allows actual humans to fill in occasionally.
>>738981536>Speaking of GW1 tho: I WISH more games did the hero system of GW1, allowing you to gear and skill-build your own NPC companions so you can solo a dead game. That's so fucking goated and based beyond belief.Its one of the main perk in Star Trek Online. Granted, Ground Mission SUCKS, but you can give them your gear and skill set to make it work.
are best armors still in the store?
>>738981727https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Breezy_Swim_PackThis one in particular. Usable with other armor transmutation.
>>738981476ele has a lot of skills to remember because you are expected to use all your attunements. but maybe in pve it doesnt matter as much.
>>738981476I both love and hate Mesmers in GW2. They changed a really unique class from GW1 into something different, but still unique in its own way.
>>738981850have some slander
>>738981767YIFF
This is actually such a fucked up thing to do in retrospect. Granted they murdered the shit out of the humans but still lmao
>>738981927This helps narrow it down. My new character will be a thief or ranger.
>>738981927Where's revenant
>>738960867It's buy-to-play so in terms of expenses, yeah it's something you can go back to anytime.It's casual as fuck though. In ESO everything scales to your character level. in GW2 you get scaled down depending on your zone.
>>738982292It tells you how old that image is. Also, elite specs basically throw all that out the window.
>>738982174they were enslaving, torturing, killing and eating humansif you're going to act like an animal then don't be surprised you'd get treated like onewould've been extremely funny if one of the HoM rewards was a charr hide armour skin setI would've worn the fuck out of it
>>738982383base game is also f2p if you don't want to pay anything
>>738960867My only question is: WHY THE FUCK DID THEY REMOVE OLD LION'S GATE?? One of the coolest fucking things about Guild Wars 2, was that it was set 250 years after GW1, and while yeah, it was flooded now, it was still super cool to explore it and imagine what happened here over the years, see the place your character spend so much time. Why the fuck would you take that out? Ever?
>>738982428>fucking indiana jones in the middle of those fantasy classes
GW2 is the only casual themepark MMO worth playing. It has a lot of stuff to do and nothing is really mandatory, that confuses most MMO junkies who need to be handheld all the time by a quest chain. You just spawn into the world after a short tutorial and you can run around wherever and do whatever, or jump into WvW or PvP (and get clobbered instantly). The world is full of random little details to enjoy, genuinely one of the best designed worlds in vidya. Meta events (especially HoT) are fantastic. Best mounts in the genre, great combat classes, you can play the trading post and crafting market if you want, there's music instruments, housing, minigames people forget about, fashion collecting, etc. The story starts off very generic and whatever, then dips into complete woke cringe territory, but then they fire those idiots and start actually doing interesting things to a degree. It also has raids and harder tiers of fractals if you're looking for a challenge, but 99.99% of players don't give a shit and play the PvE meta events to collect skins and materials for legendaries (most leggies are just a big grind that makes all content valuable). If you want to experience the full breadth of combat, you play PvP with the 5 other masochists amidst legions of bots.I haven't touched the latest expansion yet, but the ranking imo is:HoT > LW4 > LW3 > EoD > PoF > JW > SotO > base game > LW5 > LW2 > LW1>>738982519Old Lion's Arch from the base game launch is a reward now from some achievements. You can teleport into the "memory" and run around. Also the ruins of GW1 LA are still underwater anyway.
>>738960867after you get to level 80, which takes a couple of days or less, you get an exotic set for a few silvers, ascended weapon from the wizards vault (daily and weekly objectives) and you are pretty much good to go for any content, fractals raids, dungeonsdo recommend you do the expansions right after personal story because hero points in those expansions give 10 points instead of 1 so you can level your professions asap, otherwise its a slow bog.everything otherwise seems casual.end game is just cosmetics, farming and forge them, and gambling (see it on chat often)story stuff, i dont care so skip.FF11 is also a good alternative.
>>738982873It helps no matter what you do isn't a waste of time that will be undone by the next update.
>>738960867>"retirement home" for wow\ffxiv cunts like me who want to play something for the story and chill by themselves Was in the same state and recently went back to play WoW retail but F2P at level 20. Kinda nice to have access to all your mounts and toys, etc.
>>738960867Is Rytlock Brimstone still alive?
